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April 15, 2013
Syria: Two Moral Boosts For the Government Forces

The current offense of the Syrian army produced another success:

Syrian government troops have broken through a six-month opposition blockade in northern Syria and are now fighting to recapture a vital highway, opposition and state media said on Monday.


[Rami Abdelrahman, head of the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights,] counted more than 50 fighters dead or missing from the battle on Sunday. The army advance was not yet a decisive victory but could reopen battlefields in the north where opposition fighters had the advantage, he said.

“We will see now what happens but if the opposition can push back the regime, they can avoid a major setback. If the regime is able to hold this opening it could take back the whole road and that will have major strategic consequences,” he said.

This comes on top of other successes in the southern suburbs of Damascus and near the Jordan border.

The foreign supported insurgents have stretched their forces. They have tried to occupy too many areas and places. They also had heavy losses. That leaves them vulnerable to concentrated actions by Syrian government troops.

Meanwhile the U.S. tries to put the Jihadis genie back into the bottle. It will find that only the Syrian government is able to do that:

Turkey, which has been focused on seeing Assad’s downfall, allegedly is of the opinion that al-Nusra is an effective fighter against Assad and that Ankara can control this radical Islamic group.

“Any means necessary for Assad to go, even if it means through al-Nusra, appears to be valid for Turkey. But this is a very short-sighted view,” the Western intelligence sources believe.

In his third visit to Turkey in two months due to take place on April 20, US Secretary of State Kerry will try to convince both Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu that allowing al-Nusra to gain a lead position in Syria is unwise.

It will need real heavy pressure from Kerry to achieve a change in the Turkish support for the Jihadis. Erdogan, and especially Davutoglu, have bet too much on an Assad fall. I doubt that the U.S. is yet willing to press enough to achieve a change in the Turkish position. But that time will come. It is harder and harder to explain to the public why the “west” is supporting the Jihadists in Syria when it is fighting them in other countries.

Jabhat al-Nusra’s recent open pledge of allegiance to Al Qaida was a win for the Syrian government. It will hinder some material support for the opposition. It is also a moral boost for its own troops. They know they are justified in their fight. Together with building military success such a moral boost can be decisive.

Comments

What is even better is that Syria is taking this to the UN security council!
No way the security council is going to vote against this (unless the US would tarnish their reputation even more by vetoing this). This is definitely well played!
Syria was also wise in refusing the chemical weapons inspectors from the UN since this would allow USUKQATAR intell and an opening for smears and invasion. Although they still (in vain) try this again and again

Posted by: Gehenna | Apr 15 2013 17:49 utc | 1

Has anyone seen the Frontline Syria doc? It deserves a thorough analysis. I’m on the fence as to whether it’s intentionally or unintentionally subversive to the official story, but it certainly paints the rebels in the correct light, more or less. The one thing that is concealed is the foreign infiltration(they follow one small group of fighters/teenagers and their grimacing father-figure ‘commander’), but the tactics and certainly the ‘banality of evil’ just shine from them. There are several instances where they make themselves targets in civilain areas, resulting in mass carnage. There is one scene where the cameraman follows a farmer into his fields which have been neglected for a year, and they are fired on by rebels and have to jump in a ditch to survive. I was reminded of Palestine. They were ‘warning’ shots, carelessly and gleefully given.

Posted by: L Bean | Apr 15 2013 18:03 utc | 2

Here is a Youtube channel that posts interesting stuff on the Syrian conflict for English speakers. It is by a guy who describes himself as:
“A secular Syrian opposed to having my country turned into a Taliban-like state”
http://www.youtube.com/user/EretzZen2

Posted by: J. Bradley | Apr 15 2013 19:10 utc | 3

US and Turkey disagreement is just a PR show of good cop bad cop.
Al Nusra/Qaeda are extensively supported by PGGC arabs and Turkey, and the very idea of US not being able to influence its puppets decisions is flat out show for public consumption. US could easily force Turkey/arabs to cut-off Al Nusra, that is, if US wanted to. Not just that, I’m sure US actually clandestinely helps Al Nusra same as it did for another Al Qaeda branch in Libya.
US considers jihadists as “useful idiots”, and the very idea of US “having consciousness and fighting terrorists” (as US trying to portray themselves in the media), is ridiculous concept for naive and gullible. As long as those jihadists are fighting on US side, they will get US and its alies support one way or another.

Posted by: Harry | Apr 15 2013 19:16 utc | 4

Bombs have gone off in Boston

Posted by: Fernando | Apr 15 2013 21:19 utc | 5

Ever notice that the people involved in this kind of thing have hard-to-pronounce and hard-to-spell names, many of which look quite similiar to English speakers? Do they do that on purpose? I mean, for the best of reasons, I’m sure, but it makes it hard to keep track of them.

Posted by: Mooser | Apr 15 2013 21:20 utc | 6

There are different factions in the US, as elsewhere.
Interestingly it is the ‘humanitarian/liberal interventionist’ wing that is so strongly supportive of what are essentially radical Wahhabi terrorists (as was the case in Libya), & the conventional military along with what is left of the professional foreign service (State, intelligence) that is against it.
Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, Suzanne Nossel, & the Brookings Institute alumni seem to be the ones leading the charge from their bizarre bubble universe, and they made major strides under Obama in getting their people into top positions in international & US bodies and setting the agenda.
The ongoing carnage in both Libya & Syria is leaving them increasingly exposed, and if the Syrian’s can inflict a decisive defeat that starts pushing the psycho’s back across the borders into Turkey & Jordan that may well be enough for the US to pull the plug on the major supply lines & to try and control the fallout.
Obama seems to prefer promoting the liberal thinktanks as they provide a lot of backing, but ultimately he seems to be an opportunist who will simply look to position himself at the centre of great political lobbying/NGO/thinktank circle where he has the deciding position.
If the backlash starts risking his position in any way he’ll dump those exposed very quickly.

Posted by: KenM | Apr 15 2013 21:22 utc | 7

I’m also of the opinion that Turkey/KSA/Qatar are doing EXACTLY what the US wants. Think about it this way. Do you remember the elaborate network that brought Arab jihadis to Afghanistan in the 80s? Do you notice how similar it is to the one now bringing them to Syria?
Now…do you recall the huge network of jihadis that were brought to fight the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in the 80s???? Perhaps it was super secret because I don’t think anyone else noticed it either.
What concerns the US now is not the terrorists, but the fact that the Syrian conflict has gone on so long that even the sheeple are starting to put two and two together. Hence a public disinformation campaign to make it seem like the US really wants the exact opposite of what it’s clearly doing. Internationally I don’t think such a campaign will have a lot of traction. Domestically, it’s quite effective-but even here in the US there is a growing proportion of disbelievers, though perhaps still too few to matter. If the US does in fact change course (not predicting it) it will only be because they really fear they will loose control of the information war.
Also notice how in all the nonstop coverage of the Benghazi incident, the obvious question was never asked by the US MSM: how is it that the US consulate was attacked by the very people the US brought to power? So even when there is blowback, they can spin it or just plan ignore the most obvious and glaring aspect of it.
Hence, the US is not really afraid of the jihadi monster its helping to create. If and when they complete their task in Syria, the money and weapons stop flowing in an instant, along with the Salfi preaching around the world Muslim urging young men to travel to Syria. Those remaining, might indeed manage to launch a few attacks against Israel, but they will simply use the occasion to play the victim card. There will not likely be a Salafi Hezbollah.
Worse still, they may simply redirect them against Lebanon and Iraq.
The one plus side I see is that if the Syrian loyalists prevail, this will be seen as the high water mark of both western influence and Al-Qaida’s warped version of Islam. Which is why both will pour all the resources they can to win in Syria, and why it is so essential they loose.

Posted by: Lysander | Apr 15 2013 21:25 utc | 8

brilliant post . Lysander.Thanks.

Posted by: Nabil | Apr 15 2013 22:02 utc | 9

re boston bombings: BostonGlobe sympathetic to bombers in #syria: http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/04/06/should-america-let-syria-fight/UUtDpctZYyeymgSjgRSBWK/story.html … #hypocrisy
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2013/03/22/syrian-president-vows-revenge-after-mosque-bombing/L05fBj0bt7mzoqQOCWM76O/story.html
people should tweet US media about their support for bombings in Libya and Syria eg @BostonGlobe

Posted by: brian | Apr 15 2013 22:11 utc | 10

US hypocrisy: Obama condemns boston bombings while himself being a master bomber: http://www.policymic.com/articles/16949/predator-drone-strikes-50-civilians-are-killed-for-every-1-terrorist-and-the-cia-only-wants-to-up-drone-warfare

Posted by: brian | Apr 15 2013 22:38 utc | 11

“Allah, Suria, Bashar u Bus” = “God, Syria & Bashar, that’s all”
Beautiful words in Arabic and English. God Willing the righteous will prevail.

Posted by: HIlmi Hakim | Apr 15 2013 22:45 utc | 12

Who and where would those Jihadis be fighting if not Assad and Syria? More likely than not they’d be rampaging someplace else, possibly attacking USraeli interests or allied client states. So by supplying them arms and the logistics needed to fight in Syria, a country about whose citizens USrael gives a flying fu.k and conveniently a staunch ally of prime target Iran, the empire is hitting two birds with one stone. Laughing.
They grin, no matter which side scores a minor victory in this ongoing slaughter fest, either Jihadists or Syrian soldiers have died, ideally both. I imagine a typical conversation between Obomber and Brennan would sound like this:
“Mr President, we just got news that Syrian government forces have recaptured some stretch of highway, killing 50 of our opposition fighters.” – “Oh no, that’s terrible. But hey, look on the bright side, 50 less Jihadis.” And both men have a good chuckle. “Yes Mr President, operation Meat Grinder is unfolding as planned.”

Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 16 2013 0:58 utc | 13

The foreign supported insurgents have stretched their forces. They have tried to occupy too many areas and places.

All true. And one huge problem the rebels have is that they lack unity of command. They are a bunch of disparate unorganized renegade bands with different agendas. Sometimes they fight with each other, and sometimes against each other. Unity of command — very important. Pentagon definition, from the DOD Dictionary:

unity of command: The operation of all forces under a single responsible commander who has the requisite authority to direct and employ those forces in pursuit of a common purpose.

The rebels have a similar problem on the political side, which makes it worse.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 16 2013 1:27 utc | 14

“Who and where would those Jihadis be fighting if not Assad and Syria? More likely than not they’d be rampaging someplace else, possibly attacking USraeli interests or allied client states.”
No, as Lysander points out, these “jihadists” are in fact a mercenary force organised, financed, trained, armed, officered and directed by the US and its satraps. These faux wahhabi terrorists are no more likely to turn against their employers than any other mercenary force. Which is why neither Jordan nor Israel is in the least worried by them.
And, as has been said, Lebanon is a shining example of the commitment these thugs have to any broader cause than themselves. There they work hand in glove with the Israelis and, financed by oil money, campaign electorally to put quislings into office.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 16 2013 2:06 utc | 15

“It is harder and harder to explain to the public why the “west” is supporting the Jihadists in Syria when it is fighting them in other countries.”
I would argue that the US has always supported AlQaeda. our rulers love the Saudis, would never go after their kin over 9/11, and found it justified the goal of dragging the US into fascism with no real enemies on the planet. all the US has done is spark the growth of AQ since the 80’s when the US trained binLaden until now as it has trouble deciding where it disagrees with Islamic mercenaries. Syria was the US’ best ally for intelligence after 9/11. now the US is killing Syria. with AQ’s help.

Posted by: anon | Apr 16 2013 2:25 utc | 16

p.s. agree with Lysander (post 8) and Brian (post 10, 11)

Posted by: anon | Apr 16 2013 2:36 utc | 17

From Penny:
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ben | Apr 16 2013 2:36 utc | 18

Bevin, with neither Turkey, SA, Israel or Jordan seemingly showing any concerns about the steadfast supply of arms and training given to large parts of the insurgency, what you say makes perfect sense, and there certainly is a rent-a-gang element to the Syrian insurgency, but can that be said of all the foreign fighters streaming into the country? Are they all “under control”? I have my doubts, and if so, for how long?
And even those who are on US payroll are not the kind authorities in Washington would shed a tear for should they get killed. Cheap cannon fodder in a proxy war, no love lost.
Also, keep in mind, turning against their employers is not that uncommon a move in their circles, often there is very little allegiance beyond their next salary. If he could I believe the former ambassador to Libya would be able to sing a song or two about this fact of life.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 16 2013 3:30 utc | 19

Turkey and it’s autocratic pro-Islamist government, while turning the only secular Muslim country into a back warded police-state, where wiretapping has nearly silenced any opposition, plays the moderate card by Obama, neocons, and mainstream media.
Erdogan has bet his billions he stashed in Swiss and other accounts in the world via his cronies that the US is well aware of, on Assad regime’s fall. but make no mistake about this he was calling Assad ‘very dear brother’ only two – three years ago, and all of a sudden, him and his ilk turned overnight the biggest Assad haters, they even called Assad’s name differently in Turkish so that it does sound bad! Wierd but through as Erdogan government have gotten to learn Goebbels type pr tactics during their 10+yrs ruling.

Posted by: Dany | Apr 16 2013 14:59 utc | 20

Just to provide a little balance to the dump-on-Turkey festivities, let’s give Erdogan a high-five for standing up to Israel, a rare occurrence these days. Very rare.
DefenseNews, Apr 15, 2013
Turkey Blocks NATO Meeting With Israel

ANKARA — Despite a recent, partial thaw in its problematic diplomatic ties with one-time ally Israel, Turkey has declined to agree to a meeting of NATO’s Mediterranean Dialogue group, which includes Israel and six Arab countries, Turkish diplomats here said.
They said Egypt also declined to convene the group for the first time in five years. A NATO official in Brussels declined to comment.
The Mediterranean Dialogue, founded in 2004, is intended to contribute to regional security. Along with Israel and Egypt, the other participating countries are Morocco, Tunisia, Mauritania, Algeria and Jordan.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 16 2013 15:23 utc | 21

@bevin#15 and @JM#19
The jihadists are likely a mixture of mercs and idealists, with the more experienced in leadership roles, using young international ideological recruits (your John Walker Linds) as cannon fodder. Israeli leaders may not be afraid of blowback, they live for the next military challenge to justify their Spartan State; but Jordan’s leadership if worried — only Saudi cash and American pressure are keeping them on board.

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Apr 16 2013 16:22 utc | 22

ErDOGan is destroying turkey, he is ruining that country with his populism. He had me fooled for a while but he is a true opportunist and is truly a bozo. Just look at Fazil Say

Posted by: Fernando | Apr 16 2013 20:59 utc | 23

Does anyone know anything about the “working group for Palestinians in Syria?” It appears to have been organized in October of 2012. It is based in London and like the SOHR, appears to be a Syrian-opposition-friendly-source about deaths of Palestinians in Syria and the conditions of Palestinian refugee camps. It is cited in MB-friendly sites like palestine-info.uk and drah.ps.

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Apr 17 2013 0:15 utc | 24

Not sure how much of this is true:
U.S. Fears Syria Rebel Victory, for Now

WASHINGTON—Senior Obama administration officials have caught some lawmakers and allies by surprise in recent weeks with an amended approach to Syria: They don’t want an outright rebel military victory right now because they believe, in the words of one senior official, that the “good guys” may not come out on top.
Administration officials fear that with Islamists tied to al Qaeda increasingly dominating the opposition to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad , too swift a rebel victory would undercut hopes for finding a diplomatic solution, according to current and former officials.

Posted by: b | Apr 17 2013 9:32 utc | 25

Brahimi eyes new U.N. envoy role in Syria, dropping Arab League: envoys

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – U.N.-Arab League Syria envoy Lakhdar Brahimi hopes to revamp his role as an international peace mediator in the Syrian conflict as a United Nations envoy without any official link to the Arab bloc, U.N. diplomats said on Tuesday.
Brahimi has become increasingly frustrated with the league’s moves to recognize the Syrian opposition, which he feels has undermined his role as a neutral mediator, diplomats told Reuters on condition of anonymity.
“The joint special representative feels that the Arab League approach makes it difficult for him to carry out his mandate,” a diplomat said.
“He feels that it would be best to be associated only with the United Nations at this point to ensure his neutrality.”

Posted by: b | Apr 17 2013 9:35 utc | 26

25) saving face …?
The politics surrounding Syria are strange to say the least

“Nusra Front’s declaration of attachment to al-Qaeda strengthens the hands of the Assad regime, presents the justification foreign powers need to intervene in Syria, and gives the excuse to the Syrian government to react against those ‘terrorists’ fighting in Syria. We call on our brethren at the Nusra Front to end obeying al-Qaeda and consult with those warriors on the field and scholars,” the statement underlined.
“There is no bigger terror than that applied by the Syrian regime”
“Our people will consider it a conspiracy against itself if an intervention takes place targeting the groups fighting in Syria or if the Syrian people were placed under a blockade with an excuse of ‘struggling against terrorists’. There is no bigger terror than that applied by the Syrian regime. We reject the intervention of all forms of organizations to determine the future of the Syrian state as well as any imposition from the international community to us to sit down with the Syrian regime at the table. The future of Syria will be determined by those who love Syria,” the statement also said

Posted by: somebody | Apr 17 2013 12:50 utc | 27

EU to plunder Syrian oil reserves to fund rebels
Unbelievable. I wonder how much oil Turkey will syphon off for itself, in addition to the oil it’s taking from Iraq.
For freedom!

Posted by: Pat Bateman | Apr 17 2013 14:23 utc | 28

Rusty – Here is a simple way to judge which side of the Syrian conflict Palestinians have taken:
If they support Hamas, they are Muslim brotherhood/Qatar controlled which makes them pro crazy Jihadist and against the Syrian government.
On the other hand, most secular, open minded Palestinians that tend to be either 1948 Palestinians living in Israel or Hezbollah supporters or even many Fatah supporters stand behind the Syrian government. This group understands that among the Arab states, only Syria has remained a steadfast supporter of the Palestinian cause.

Posted by: HIlmi Hakim | Apr 17 2013 14:47 utc | 29