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February 17, 2013

Open Thread 2013-4

News & views ...

Posted by b on February 17, 2013 at 18:44 UTC | Permalink


Here's an uplifting documentary of un vrai Rambo, not some yanqui cartoon.

Posted by: ruralito | Feb 17 2013 22:03 utc | 1

Opinion: Wrestling is to be axed from the Olympics because Iranians are good at it.

Proof: None

That is all..

Posted by: Pat Bateman | Feb 17 2013 23:24 utc | 2

Example of news filled with contradictions. Take your pick.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 17 2013 23:41 utc | 3

Male and female whores in public office

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 17 2013 23:46 utc | 4

Just a couple of items: The propaganda war against Venezuela, and the re-election of Correa. Oh, and translated from Spanish:

The Zapatista Army of National Liberation (EZLN) has a new deputy, Moses, indigenous Tojolabal. During the 1994 armed eruption, he was Major, but recently attained the rank of Lieutenant Colonel in the rebel military structure.

Posted by: Maracatu | Feb 17 2013 23:50 utc | 5

Russian Bomber fly's near Guam. The Tu-95 Bear-H bombers are WWII era and relics, It did not breach airspace. US media mentions Nuclear Bombs, threat, a Unnamed defense officials (Obviously) told a newspaper that the bombers were 'probably' equipped with six Kh-55 or Kh-55SM cruise missiles that can hit targets up to 1,800 miles away with either a high-explosive warhead or a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead.

The U.S. military maintains jurisdiction over seven bases, which cover approximately 39,000 acres (16,000 ha), or 29% of the island's total land area.

In that, the plane has long been obsolete in its intended role, it is however used for training for maritime naval interdiction and high altitude surveillance.

Was this a threat? No, is it a bit of posturing, hell yes! It did get to see the reaction of US and Japan, test its scramble abilities toward a huge slow elephant in the room, and being a surveillance plane, presumably recorded everything. Gen Androsov, American fighters took off from an aircraft carrier and tracked the bombers until they left Guam's airspace. "We exchanged smiles and returned home," he said.

Posted by: Kev | Feb 18 2013 0:23 utc | 6

@ Kev [#6},

This might come in handy when trying to identify what's what.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 18 2013 0:49 utc | 8

Disabled Marine rifles at inauguration signal shift in administration policy.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 18 2013 3:25 utc | 9

How the Likud lobby is gang-raping congress:

Iranian dissident group is viable opposition: U.S. congressmen

By Nicholas Vinocur
PARIS | Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:11pm EST

(Reuters) - Four U.S. congressmen met an Iranian dissident leader on Sunday and urged President Barack Obama to treat her group as an alternative to Tehran's government, four months after its removal from a list of terrorist organizations

Posted by: clint | Feb 18 2013 4:36 utc | 10

@10 "(Reuters) - Four U.S. congressmen met an Iranian dissident leader on Sunday and urged President Barack Obama to treat her group as an alternative to Tehran's government, four months after its removal from a list of terrorist organizations"

In before West declares MEK as the only representative of Iranian people ;-)

Posted by: Harry | Feb 18 2013 4:54 utc | 11

Is David Albright ?

(a) Stupid
(b) Malicious
(c) In the pocket of funders like NEOCON Foundation for the Freedom of Democracies

(d) all of the above

Please discuss.

Posted by: clint | Feb 18 2013 6:36 utc | 12

The removal of wrestling will effect over 200 countries, most of the Eastern bloc has 2 sports, weightlifting and wrestling. Wrestling is at its highest since 2008, with the growth of MMA it has increased as one of the core disciplines. Go to Bellator MMA, or and stop the removal of wrestling from the Olympics.
End of the day wrestling has been around for thousands of years, the Olympic has added some daft sports, like rhythmic gymnastics, badminton, Dressage (elitist and anal), steeple chase, race walking, even soccer is not suited, as it is a World/global professional game that has standing, status and money! Sad to see such a rated part of history replaced with a shuttle-COCK.

Posted by: Kev | Feb 18 2013 8:33 utc | 13

argh, those insufferable they have no shame ?

Posted by: denk | Feb 18 2013 10:06 utc | 14

@Kev (17) - The Tu-95 is not obsolete. Current Bears were built in the 80s/early 90s and upgraded in 2005. They are now receiving further upgrades and will get the new Kh-101/102 missiles.

They are still able to fulfill their mission of strategic dissuasion and will be around for the next 20 years or more.

Posted by: z | Feb 18 2013 11:45 utc | 15

@z (15), Its a 4xprop elephant, and agree as 'Dan the man' pointed out my jump at WWII was a decade (or so) out, my error, better is the 'Cold War Era' but the Bear is not as worrisome as the Blackjack (supersonic Туполев Ту-160 ) not stealth but epic. My point was this is a regular 'Buzz' and blown up by targeted/chosen media. @Dan - Link (beta) gave no data, but a great site is BTW-thanks for the push and read up.

Posted by: Kev | Feb 18 2013 14:04 utc | 16

god damn, fukusans overwhelmingly support state terrorism !!!

Posted by: denk | Feb 18 2013 15:51 utc | 17

Who else in the class thinks that ISIS getting funding from IAEA is a conflict of interest, given that they release a report on Iran every 3 seconds:

Posted by: Clint | Feb 18 2013 16:32 utc | 18

Kev @ 13: Thanks for the Wrestling link. Can't fathom why they'd drop Wrestling, it's a core sport. What's next, dropping Track & Field for basket weaving?

Posted by: ben | Feb 18 2013 16:38 utc | 19

Does this revelation really surprise anyone?

Posted by: ben | Feb 18 2013 16:49 utc | 20

There´s a new post about Hasan Arbakesh, the 1965 Tajik film classic at my blog.


Posted by: Martin Trueman | Feb 18 2013 20:49 utc | 21

Bulgarian Revelations Explode Hezbollah Bombing “Hypothesis”

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 19 2013 3:58 utc | 22

Bennett: No Palestine in ‘God-given’ Land of Israel.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 19 2013 4:01 utc | 23

@Dan #{{24}}, That is a cracking term "A self hating Jew" a term growing in use, the only flaw I find is the term, most 'Jew Hating Jews' who are not from Israel and tend to love themselves, inexplicably hard to hard to define! In context, but not about a Jew or an "Ethnic Jew" or "non-observant Jew" or "non-religious Jew" or "non-practicing Jew", lastly a "secular Jew". I met many 'good eggs' in various countries but when home they become scrambled. Once I asked friend that displayed this very same character trait, and who held the post of Chief of the Cabinet why he felt obliged to become his Evil twin when back 'home' - The answer was simple, he could! Back in context, it seems all 'self hating Jews' are more or less excommunicated because of not being Jewish enough or one that serves no other purpose than to marginalise and demonise political opponents, or anyone with a alternate view. I find the term term "Uncle Tom" used in the African-American community much the same, and now I am suffering from White guilt...

Posted by: Kev | Feb 19 2013 6:12 utc | 25

Mmmmmmmm Didn't take the U.S. long to smell out more African resources.

Posted by: ben | Feb 19 2013 15:47 utc | 26

I have been reading up, somewhat quickly and superficially, but it ain’t that complicated - about the new banking law in France, which was supposed to separate activities as Glass-Steagall did. It was adopted on Tuesday, 315 contra 161.

It is a crock of sh*t.

The main points are perhaps best summed up in a letter signed by 75 economists (of many stripes and theoretical bents ...)

Libération, 16 feb. in F:

For ex. If a F bank is to be bailed out, dismantled, or allowed to fail (and presumably whatever else) will be decided by exactly two ppl - the Head of the Central Bank, and the Sec. of the Treasury.

Bank holdings (how anyone figured that out is moot) are 340% of GDP and the ‘separation’ of activities will concern between less than 1% and under 2% of bank ‘products..’ How’s them apples?

This is extremely alarming. First, lack of democratic control - Parliament? nope - and ‘empty, fake’ legislation falsely presented (socialist Gvmt. and media), second, the content itself.

Some may recall that Sarkozy tried to set up and create sub-prime mortgages when the scandal had already erupted!

EU chatter, or grave oh so serious hand-wringing about fiscal harmony and the like is completely irrelevant when compared to such decisions.

Meanwhile, in CH we are voting on the Minder initiative. (3 March is official date.) It will be accepted. It is not on the same topic as it concerns salaries, bonuses, and the like in public traded Swiss Cos. Which includes banks.

See next post for some press in Eng. Not great - distortions, shoddy facts, etc. - but gives some idea.

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 19 2013 17:42 utc | 27

I heard an interesting admisson made on CBC's As It Happens by Karen Abuzayd, UN human rights investigator on Syria. Abuzayd's UN group has just released a report stating that there is evidence enough to bring leaders in Syria to the International Criminal Court for war crimes, etc.

But the only really interesting thing she said was this:

"...Milosovic had a lot of his population strongly behind him, throughout, until the end, until now I would say, and the same goes for President Assad - there's quite a number of the population, maybe as many as half, if not more, who stand behind him."

So half, if not more, of the population of Syria support President Assad? This is what I suspected but judging from the English language reports I see one would get the impression that Assad has almost no support. The rebels are made to be one and the same with "Syrian people" in the Western reports I see and read.

Posted by: J. Bradley | Feb 19 2013 20:19 utc | 29

@J. Bradley #29
Of course he still has a lot of support. How else have the terrorists not made any significant gains in the past 2 years? The western media is just polarizing the mediacoverage making Assad the bad guy.

Everywhere these terrorists go they spread their wahabbi message fueling the western backed ethnic terror campaign.

Syria kidnappings

Of course the Syrian case will not be sent to the ICC. Syria did not acknowledge it (neither has the US by the way) and they'd need the UN security council's approval to push this forward which is just not going to happen with Russia and China firmly against meddling in the affairs of a sovereign nation. And of course they spin it that the terrorists would be tried as well... The real culprits are the West, Turkey and the Gulf states fueling this Sunni terror campaign. No way they're going to be tried.

You are right about the Serbian comparison (try the Libyan comparison as well). West/NATO imposing their will on a sovereign state which doesn't comply with western policy.

Posted by: Gehenna | Feb 19 2013 22:59 utc | 30

Talking about "self-hating Jews", I happen to be on this list:

I am not a Jew. Never wrote a LTE about Israel. I guess they got it that I do not approve of the Israeli government's policies and tactics from blog posts like this one.

Posted by: Susan | Feb 20 2013 1:40 utc | 31

@ Susan [#31],

Why not follow an editing course?

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 20 2013 1:47 utc | 32

From the economic trenches comes this interesting post from Karl over at Market Watch: This">">This could NEVER happen here?

He's talking about the Japanese internment during WWII and why Americans should be more worried than most are. The comments are always the most interesting.


Posted by: DaveS | Feb 20 2013 13:44 utc | 33

I ment this: This could NEVER happen here?

Posted by: DaveS | Feb 20 2013 13:46 utc | 34

@34: Hey DaveS, thanks for the reminder. True, how true!

Posted by: ben | Feb 20 2013 16:27 utc | 35

On 26 February 2007, the United Nations International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was no evidence linking Milošević and other Serbian leaders to genocide and war crimes committed in the Bosnian War. However, the court did find that Milošević and others in Serbia did not do enough to prevent acts of genocide from occurring.

And that, my friends, is from Wikipedia, in summary on the first page/entry.

(Not that wiki is an authority but it tends to present the accepted W version of events. Some things can't be left out.)

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 21 2013 16:26 utc | 36

der diplomat is cute
it censor my posts but let me complain about it !

Posted by: denk | Feb 22 2013 8:34 utc | 37

@ denk [#37],

I think it has more to do with bugs [see my double posting today]. After reloading the page several times it still didn't show up [this has happened before], so I wrote the same thing again [more or less] and now there are 2 almost identical entries. MoA is amongst the least censored sites I've ever encountered.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 22 2013 9:23 utc | 38

@ DaveS [#35],

My friend's dad was in one of those camps. Later he was allowed to fight in Italy, where he met his future wife and went back to LA after the war. Of course, whatever I've heard is hearsay, but what happened back then [amongst many other horrible injustices] is a stain on 'our' collective consciousness.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 22 2013 9:29 utc | 39

Say it ain't so!
New Iranian fighter jet is a plastic fake? Or is it just the picture that is fake?
I had really wanted it to be real.

Posted by: Jake | Mar 4 2013 15:21 utc | 41

Amazing the attack on Hugo Chavez by the "progressive" internet media.....with the exception of Justin Raimondo, the attacks seem centered on Chavez's "anti-semiticsm"....

Posted by: georgeg | Mar 6 2013 0:38 utc | 42

if u dont buy the washington consensus
uncle sham will bring *democracy* to u

plus bit of destabilisation ?

An alliance willing to defy the UN and to use first-strike nukes as
it sees fit will not hesitate to fudge a little chaos in order to
secure long-term power projection bases in Asia. The United
States has fudged chaos in the Philippines before.
The first President Bush saluted America s first covert Filipino-
Muslim freedom fighters, and his son s inner circle has its own
reasons to resurrect the secret Muslim army trick. As soon as
Arroyo signs the Pentagon s proposed mutual support
agreement, any unrest in Sabah, Zamboanga City or Mindanao
means the US must intervene.
The Rand study advised the Pentagon to keep the zone warm
militarily. That is the purpose of the current rolling series of anti-
terror exercises against the CIA s Abu Sayyaf Group. That was
also the likely purpose of the terror-bomber rescued by the Bush
White House.

Future events will reveal America s game plan for Southeast
Asia and who the confederates are.
Last month, after a series of disturbances in Sabah work camps,
Malaysia expelled an estimated 30,000 undocumented Filipino
laborers from the troubled state in North Borneo that so many
CIA plots seem to target...a state where the Bangsamoro army
claimed in February to have 50,000 insurgents armed and
funded by the USA and other super-powers.
To protest the expulsion, Arroyo immediately moved to renew
the Philippine claim to Sabah. The President has ordered her
chief Army officer to prepare for all emergencies and to develop
the new rules of engagement we need . To guarantee the safety
of returning workers, she has proposed the permanent stationing
of a Philippine navy ship off the Sabah coast.

On October 6, she called for even closer security ties with the
United States.

Posted by: denk | Mar 6 2013 3:29 utc | 43

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