Benghazi Spin
The NYT is trying to sell some administration spin:Last summer, as the fighting in Syria raged and questions about the United States’ inaction grew, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton conferred privately with David H. Petraeus, the director of the C.I.A. The two officials were joining forces on a plan to arm the Syrian resistance.The facts do not concur with this.The idea was to vet the rebel groups and train fighters, who would be supplied with weapons.
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Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Petraeus presented the proposal to the White House, according to administration officials. But with the White House worried about the risks, and with President Obama in the midst of a re-election bid, they were rebuffed.
Early September 2012 a ship with weapons from Benghazi arrived in Turkey. The weapons were for fighting the Syrian government. There was some controversy to which groups those weapons should go.
On September 11 2012 the U.S. ambassador to Libya met with the Turkish consul general in Benghazi. It was the last meeting before the ambassador was killed.
When on the same the CIA station in Benghazi was attacked and later evacuated there were 25 CIA or CIA related persons there. This wasn't a small station for observation of this or that but a huge operation.
It is quite obvious that the CIA and the State Department were involved in organizing weapons for the Syrian insurgency. The White House may (likely) or may not (unlikely) have known about that. If the White House shut down that operation it did so after September 11, not "during the summer".
It is certainly no pure coincidence that the above NYT spin is published on the same day as an exclusive interview the authors had with Hillary Clinton.
Together they mark the start of the Hillary 2016 campaign.
Posted by b on February 3, 2013 at 14:27 UTC | Permalink
Apparently Obama doesn't want it known he is running a network of terrorist mercs. I'm not so sure Clinton is going to run, or would even have a chance, but in American politics, with it's extensive vote rigging and corruption, who knows...
Posted by: вот так | Feb 3 2013 15:47 utc | 2
STEPHEN PETER ROSEN, he is director (at time Samuel Huntington) of http://www.wcfia.harvard.edu/olin/index.htm, Olin is ammunition manufacturer, sponsor of many extremists think-tanks. He is a professor, too, at Harvard. This is notorious, imperial institution which provides ideological frameworks for an imperial wars, subsequently for uncountable suffering of people around the globe. The New York Times is merely a transmitter, or relay, that popularize and disseminate narrative of the like above "academic" institution, in the kill chain. This is what “professor” says:
“The maximum amount of force can and should be used as quickly as possible for psychological impact—to demonstrate that the empire cannot be challenged with impunity. We are in the business of bringing down hostile governments and creating governments favorable to us. Imperial wars end, but imperial garrisons must be left in place for decades to ensure order and stability.”
When I was a kind in school, teachers and professors were individuals that I respected and hold high esteem for them. I still consider that as noble profession, just as a doctor is. But, not so in the Western world where the academia is the source of extremists policies that are creating pretexts for imperial wars, thus mass human suffering. Usual justification for apologists, to reliever their conscience, are neo-liberals and their policy! Or, neo-coservatives and their policy. I would say it is fascism/capitalism and their product: colonialism, regardless of the party’s color and mascot. The barbarians on both sides of Atlantic have the same agenda, and it is derived from the Consent of the governed, that is “Little Eichmanns”.
Posted by: neretva'43 | Feb 3 2013 16:41 utc | 3
An Opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal on Nov 3, 2012 concluded:
"America has since closed the Libya diplomatic outpost and pulled a critical intelligence unit out of a hotbed of Islamism, conceding a defeat. U.S. standing in the region and ability to fight terrorist groups were undermined, with worrying repercussions for a turbulent Middle East and
America's security. This is why it's so important to learn what happened in Benghazi."
The following article pulled together many pieces of the puzzle:
"THE BENGHAZI AFFAIR: UNCOVERING THE MYSTERY OF THE BENGHAZI CIA ANNEX"
http://blogs.taz.de/netizenblog/2013/01/24/benghazi-affair-cia-annex/
neretva'43 - 3
I agree about western higher education, at least regarding how it works in the USA. Those requirements to promote the establishment were relaxed somewhat around the 1960's, but since have been renewed with vigor, with neo-con type neanderthals flooding the system with U.S. higher education heading back to the sort of narrow frame it was in the 19th century. The lower education system is in even worse shape, and can best be described as psychotic.
Posted by: вот так | Feb 3 2013 22:49 utc | 5
The Tell Avi/Aviv Times/Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr. does/do what it/he always has done. It/he is very consistent in that. Truth doesn't matter, because profit and greed are fueled by greenbacks, hysteria and emotive ramblings, where passionate ideology has surpassed sober rationality and the urge to expose the core of what I'm really looking for, and that's the plain and very naked truth. This, again, proves it doesn't matter who's at the helm of PA 1600. War's good and war's profitable. Heck, Bill Hicks had that figured out, two decades ago.
Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 3 2013 23:33 utc | 6
Who needs education?
http://www.onlinecolleges.net/2013/01/08/americas-phds-on-food-stamps/
What's needed is Modern Warfare:
http://dailybail.com/storage/war-pentagon-bomb-military.jpg
Whether the Killary is going to run for White House or not is irrelevant, the future is not bright with them. Whoever is going to take the posts of the highest priest. Spin and forever implementation of NSC-68 will be the norm of days, moths and years to come. “Little Eichmanns” will enjoy new Benghazis on front pages of the NYT and WP, in slightly different from and from different place(s) but....
"The Spin Must Go On."
Empty spaces - what are we living for?
Abandoned places - I guess we know the score..
On and on!
Does anybody know what we are looking for?
Another hero - another mindless crime.
Behind the curtain, in the pantomime.
Hold the line!
Does anybody want to take it anymore?
The Show must go on!
The Show must go on!Yeah!
Inside my heart is breaking,
My make-up may be flaking,
Posted by: neretva'43 | Feb 4 2013 2:33 utc | 7
sorry, i am a tad confused.
Early September 2012 a ship with weapons from Benghazi arrived in Turkey. The weapons were for fighting the Syrian government. There was some controversy to which groups those weapons should go.On September 11 2011 the U.S. ambassador to Libya met with the Turkish consul general in Benghazi. It was the last meeting before the ambassador was killed.
When on the same[?] the CIA station in Benghazi was attacked and later evacuated there were 25 CIA or CIA related persons there. This wasn't a small station for observation of this or that but a huge operation.
the same day? 9/11/11
Posted by: annie | Feb 4 2013 3:52 utc | 8
never mind! i put 2&2 together. for a minute there my mind was going back another year.
Posted by: annie | Feb 4 2013 3:55 utc | 9
If the White House shut down that operation it did so after September 11, not "during the summer".
well, technically summer ends here on sept 22.
Posted by: annie | Feb 4 2013 4:20 utc | 10
@ annie [#9]
Off topic.
Q: well, technically summer ends here on sept 22.
R; How doe timezones fit into that equation [as this rock as whole is in the same 'timezone' [or moment of energetic state] according to universal principles]?
Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 4 2013 5:04 utc | 11
The Clintons didn't move to NY to get an office in the hood. Rotham needed votes to get elected [and she got elected].
Posted by: Daniel Rich | Feb 4 2013 5:15 utc | 12
i hope and the orphans and widows of the iraqis this man killed sleep a little better tonight. i can't think of a more apropo end for him. he died the way he lived.
Posted by: annie | Feb 4 2013 5:32 utc | 13
Important to know that Eric Schmidt [among MANY others] reported on the CIA arms smuggling effort in June 1912.
C.I.A. Said to Aid in Steering Arms to Syrian Opposition
By ERIC SCHMITT NYT June 21, 2012
And that Eric Schmitt is being muzzled by the NYTImes and the Obama administration:
"From among these buildings, the C.I.A. personnel carried out their secret missions. The New York Times agreed to withhold locations and details of these operations at the request of Obama administration officials, who said that disclosing such information could jeopardize future sensitive government activities and put at risk American personnel working in dangerous settings."
1912? Schmidt? mea culpa? by June 2012, many were tracking arms smuggling into Syria, from Libya as well as the CIA involvement in the "Benghazi" uprising in 2011
Also of interest, for larger perspective, may be this:
Gaddafi's Libya Was Africa 's Most Prosperous Democracy,By Garikai Chengu
Antiwar.com article on the various reports that Benghazi was port for shipping weapons (and fighters?) to Turkey to enter Syria.
Sen. Rand (Libertarian with moments of clarity) Paul asked whether the "consulate" and the CIA building had something to do with arms shipments.
I may need to spend some time trying to find video of that exchange....
Posted by: jawbone | Feb 4 2013 20:14 utc | 17
jawbone - 17
This?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=UKkkTXSfygo
Posted by: вот так | Feb 4 2013 20:27 utc | 19
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Sorry that the first comment here is on a totally different subject. Not intending to hijack the thread, I couldn't resist posting this:
Yet here we are seeing something like the Monroe Doctrine turned on its head, excluding the US while seeking to deepen ties with many of the old colonial powers, led by CELAC, a new regional bloc of nations, designated as the “the EU’s counterpart for the bi-regional partnership process” and led for its coming year by Cuba and its President, Raúl Castro, who assumes the presidency from the hands of the conservative Chilean President Piñera! And the new organization is born as the OAS is faltering, and it also adopts and reiterates a unanimous repudiation of the US embargo against Cuba, as well as supporting Argentina on its claims on the Malvinas. No wonder Argentine President Fernández is reported to have said, “For Chilean President Sebastián Piñera to transfer the presidency pro-tempore to Castro shows the times we are living.”
Posted by: Maracatu | Feb 3 2013 15:18 utc | 1