Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 29, 2012
Declare Sandy A Foreign Terrorist Threat

There is a bit of wind and some flooding coming up to the U.S. eastern shore. While the storm covers a huge area its wind speeds seem to be rather normal.

I have often visited and for some time lived in some of the east cost states. When I did several infrastructure issues let me shake my trained engineer head. The unburied local electricity lines were obvious prone to fall down and fail. Because of leaky supply lines tap water in some areas was chlorinated and unusable for consumption. Those plywood houses that were being build everywhere would hardly sustain natures regular wrath. In Manhattan I saw no flood protection at all. I wondered: "There is an ocean right out there. Don't they ever get storms?"

I was born in northern Germany and now live in Hamburg. We regularly have quite gusty storms and some flooding. Flood protection is always a high priority local political issue all along the North Sea coast. As the height of flooding is predicted to increase due to the changing climate dikes are constantly heightened to withstand the predicted higher waves. With few exceptions the local electricity lines are all buried. The tap water is drinkable and the houses are build with stones.

This seems to be a cultural issue. U.S. citizens are probably willing to live with more risk than old Europeans. But why then is there always this craze about terrorism? A negligible threat with hundreds of billions wasted on to prevent its occurrence.

Now here is an idea. Why doesn't someone smart declare Sandy and her relatives a foreign terrorist organization? Isn't she from somewhere in Central America? Hasn't she already breached several red lines and her international obligations?

Declaring bad weather a terrorist entity and the now running media craze of the imminent threat would allow politicians to move hundreds of billions of dollars towards fighting it and to work on mitigating its consequences.

Comments

perso….the last tsunami experienced in the region i live in (lake geneva) took place in 563 AD. it will happen again though nobody knows when. the waves were 18 meters tall and destroyed everything on the shores where almost everyone lived. 🙂 history counts – a bit.

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 29 2012 19:38 utc | 1

Honestly, the US is horrible when it comes to managing any type of natural disaster. Trust me, I know, I live here. That and the media just hypes it up so much, yet all in all it’s not as serious as the hype makes it out to be. It is bad of course, just not AS serious.

Posted by: Robert | Oct 29 2012 19:42 utc | 2

It is the will of God, the free market, LIFE. Get over it. Your family dies but you can be saved and go on to own fancy real estate in Florida!
I agree though Robert that it is not as bad as some of the media make out.

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 29 2012 19:50 utc | 3

Bush lumped FEMA with Homeland Security and ruined what was a great organization under Clinton.
FEMA needs to be about recovery and maintenance, NOT security and control.
FEMA should be a pro-active organization, NOT a constricting reactionary force.
FEMA should guide stimulus monies in a pro-active fortification of our infrastructure and services.

Posted by: Richard W. Crews | Oct 29 2012 20:12 utc | 4

That and the media just hypes it up so much, yet all in all it’s not as serious as the hype makes it out to be. It is bad of course, just not AS serious.

You are wrong, it is a large storm, but it is the tide, snow and rain rather then the wind which will cause the devastation. This is just a foretaste of more disasters which will hit the evil Empire before winter solstice.

Posted by: hans | Oct 29 2012 20:50 utc | 5

When George Soros recently said that Germany should come to the rescue of Europe [EU], I couldn’t help but wonder if we should have let them win the war… [links are @ http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=George+Soros+germany+help+eu&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35%5D

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Oct 29 2012 22:24 utc | 6

Q: But why then is there always this craze about terrorism?
R: Nature’s rage is very visible [and not a real rage at all], sometimes predictable, but never controllable. Terrorism is vague and faceless. The ideal instrument to milk a nation and its gullible audience that’s more interested in the Cartrashians and LiLo’s antics, out of billions of its hard earned money.
bin Laden already dead? Here’s Captain Crunch!!
[links @ http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7jMLA49QykkAK4xXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35&p=bhutto+says+bin+laden+is+dead&SpellState=&fr2=sp-qrw-corr-top%5D

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Oct 29 2012 22:31 utc | 7

Call me tunnel-visioned, but sans the dual loyalist domination of media, foreign policy etc., the
“terror” hype-drumbeat would be reduced to,oh,a sparse and faint percussion accompanying an otherwise melodic-acoustic folk tune.

Posted by: amspirnational | Oct 29 2012 23:13 utc | 8

Good point. However, this is not about risk, it is about creating business opportunities. wood houses, as well as exposed power lines, and yes, terrorism, all create business opportunities. There is no paradox here. It is a society centered on profit and money, it is not about Human beings and their security.

Posted by: Sophia | Oct 29 2012 23:14 utc | 9

b,

Why doesn’t someone smart declare Sandy and her relatives a foreign terrorist organization?

Noirette,

It is the will of God, the free market, LIFE. Get over it. Your family dies but you can be saved and go on to own fancy real estate in Florida!

Nah, you both got it all screwed up and wrong but Noirette is close:
Hurricane Sandy is further proof that “God is systematically destroying America” as political judgment for the “homosexual agenda.”
However on the positive side of things at least it a reprieve from the incessant media campaign bullshit.

Posted by: juannie | Oct 29 2012 23:40 utc | 10

Why doesn’t someone smart declare Sandy and her relatives a foreign terrorist organization?

Easy one.
Whenever the usa start another criminal “war against terror” they f*ck it up and have to somehow try to make it look less humiliating by spreading even more ridiculous lies than usually.
But against nature? Even americans vaguely grasp that they stand zero chance fighting nature.
But then, building shoddy houses, leaking nuclear reactors, and 3rd world level electricity systems seems to be quite satisfying to them, too. That is, of course, if and while their cops don’t shoot kids, their veterans or handicapped people.
I really like Sandy. After all, drowned americans can’t terrorize and kill anymore.
Go, Sandy, go!

Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Oct 30 2012 1:26 utc | 11

Completely agree w/your assessment: eg. poorly planned electrical lines, quick/dirty (especially) residential construction/materials, and much more.
AFAIC, politically but now for some time, culturally (preponderance of people here)… America has lost ability to both assess their environment, and… contemplate and intelligently plan for the future. We measure our “prosperity” w/decade(s) old models, long since deceased, and… incredibly, act as though all that former stuff, is operative here and now.
Somewhere past dumb, more like… asleep.

Posted by: jdmckay | Oct 30 2012 1:38 utc | 12

Picking up where Juannie left off…
It’s pleasing to see the Yankees on the receiving end of some ultra-violence for a change – referring specifically to using their military might to bomb pissy little military nonentities back to the Stone Age in the name of God.
Being mildly superstitious, m’self, I’m inclined to believe She’s not at all amused; and as we all know Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
And how ironic! The World’s Worst Blowhards reaping the whirlwind!
Suck it up, Yankees!

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 30 2012 1:40 utc | 13

Somewhere past dumb, more like… asleep.
…reminds me of one of TomDispatch’s dispatches about resonant slogans from #Occupy placards at Zuccotti Park.
THE AMERICAN DREAM
YOU HAVE TO BE ASLEEP
TO BELIEVE IT

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 30 2012 2:00 utc | 14

Maybe it’s been used elsewhere, but haven’t seen it.. In Naked Capitalism this is being called: Weather Porn.
Different things, war and porn.

Posted by: citizen x | Oct 30 2012 2:01 utc | 15

Na.. same thing…

Posted by: citizen x | Oct 30 2012 2:02 utc | 16

I’ve always been a fan of George W. Bush, who redefined the War on Terror in 2004.

They can’t stand the thought of a free society in the midst of a part of the world that’s just desperate for freedom. These people don’t like freedom. You know why? Because it clashes with their ideology. We actually misnamed the war on terror, it ought to be the struggle against ideological extremists who do not believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake the conscience of the free world. (Laughter.)
No, that’s what they do. They use terror to — and they use it effectively, because we’ve got good hearts. We’re people of conscience, they aren’t. They will cut off a person’s head like that, and not even care about it. That’s why I tell you, you can’t talk sense to them. Maybe some think you can, I don’t. I don’t think you can negotiate with them.

So now we’re talking about the struggle against meteorological extremism which doesn’t believe in shabbily built societies who happen to use hurricanes to try to shake the conscience of the free world. Bush would approve.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 30 2012 2:29 utc | 17

Just watch both scumbag candidates politicize this storm to gain advantage with the ignorant drooling masses. I’d rather strap myself to an elm tree and experience Sandy’s wrath than to listen to one fuckin’ minute of of these two shameless assholes trying to gain votes by capitalizing on the people’s misery.
Egads and yikes.

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 30 2012 2:50 utc | 18

You can tell us now, POA, which one of these stalwarts are you voting for?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 30 2012 3:41 utc | 19

Wood is cheap. Buried power lines are expensive.

Posted by: elucidation | Oct 30 2012 4:23 utc | 20

Ahhhh…what’s more American than the sound of transformers popping in a storm?

Posted by: вот так | Oct 30 2012 5:47 utc | 21

@ PissedOffAmerican #18
It’s not about the wind, my friend, but what’s been blown around by it. http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4579977807986724&pid=15.1 Obambi will get another 4 years to prove why he never should’ve received a Nobel peace prize, ever.

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Oct 30 2012 8:19 utc | 22

This is a first major test for Fort Knox, will NY Fed soon declare most gold bars lost to the flooding? Something along the 911 and the missing trillions
Just asking!

Posted by: hans | Oct 30 2012 9:27 utc | 23

Well, for starters, if Obama breaks off campaigning to visit the disaster area, he will be attacked for “politicizing a disaster to his own advantage”, and if he doesn’t do so he will be attacked for “neglecting his Presidential duties in order to keep campaigning”…

Posted by: ralphieboy | Oct 30 2012 10:44 utc | 24

Bush lumped FEMA with Homeland Security and ruined what was a great organization under Clinton. – Richard.
Yes, the reason was to lump all fears together. Get the jackboots stomping, to Protect and Control.
“Natural” Disaster management should be (besides properly funded, etc.):
– independent of politics, social and cultural matters.
– a savant mixture of local action (locally assumed, and paid for) and a ‘federal’ or ‘national’ force. This takes thought, experience, studies, goodwill, common sense, etc. Never top of the agenda when money making, allowed and institutionalized corruption, jockeying for power and covert sadism hold sway. Coordination with the insurance industry has to be done, as well, that is another ball of wax.
Romney has said that he would disband or annul FEMA. Good plan. However he (I suppose) only means disaster prediction, management, and relief would no longer be a concern of the Federation, and ppl should deal with their shit on their own, despite the fact that they pay Federal taxes.
juannie, heh, 😉 the wrath of God!

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 30 2012 16:37 utc | 25

Looks like exposed overhead power lines + wooden houses = Breezy Point fire.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/9643249/Superstorm-Sandy-major-fire-destroys-homes-in-Breezy-Point-Queens-New-York.html?frame=2383143

Posted by: blowback | Oct 30 2012 17:21 utc | 26

Hurricane Sandy was considered a category 1 hurricane. I live in Philadelphia. By the time it got to my hometown, it was nothing but a rainstorm that knock down a few trees that should have been cut down years ago. What was the hype about? Did the Obama Administration wanted to take attention away from the Benghazi incident? To call a state of emergency for a massive rainstorm and not a hurricane, shut down a whole city and cripple further its economy was ludicrous. Perhaps our fearless leaders are trying to condition the psyche of the American people to prepare for “emergencies” that may be coming down the pike. For instance, an eventual major war that major powers will be involved in?

Posted by: A.E.Williams | Oct 30 2012 18:03 utc | 27

Posted by: A.E.Williams | Oct 30, 2012 2:03:01 PM | 27
if faced with the choice of a government overdoing or underdoing precaution I would chose overdo, though – on the other hand – if they underdo presumably I might not be alive to complain …

Posted by: somebody | Oct 30 2012 18:34 utc | 28

2 possible effects of sandy:
gives obama just enough tailwind to ekk out a win (especially in ohio) through competent FEMA administration/climate change fearmongering.
insurance industry meltdown (and bailout#2 ?) post storm.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 30 2012 19:16 utc | 29

And hear I thought the war was on Terra all the time…

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 30 2012 22:27 utc | 30

Yeah, the New Yorkers get to experience what it feels like to live like a Libyan and Iraqi after their infrastructure was bombed into the stone age. Having said that, I truly feel sorry for everyone who was affected by Sandy.
Liberty’s showing distress
Sandy is lifting her dress
She knows to beware
When storms make her bare
Just like with that whole Lehman mess
The Limerick King
http://www.flickr.com/photos/expd/8135649469/

Posted by: Cynthia | Oct 30 2012 23:46 utc | 31

I suspect the problem is, because the US went so long without any issues like this that the authorities figured that what they had was good enough, put the money into other more important things like buying off special interests and getting re elected. Now the proverbial has hit the fan and the whole political class is exposed as the usual corrupt cretinous crooks but they’ll be let off by a public who isn’t ready to storm city hall.

Posted by: heath | Oct 31 2012 2:16 utc | 32

“You can tell us now, POA, which one of these stalwarts are you voting for?”
Participate in this Dog and Pony show??? You gotta be shittin’ me.

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 31 2012 2:44 utc | 33

“Did the Obama Administration wanted to take attention away from the Benghazi incident?”
HA!!!! Listening to those assholes like Hannity or Limbaugh, arencha??? You’re right on script, Eyore. Bray on, bray on…..

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 31 2012 2:47 utc | 34

“There is an ocean right out there. Don’t they ever get storms?”
Mostly not. Prevailing winds carry the weather out to sea. Hurricanes striking with force this far north used to be rather rare. All that is changing, however, with our new climate.
The US has always been poor on preparation–we routinely build on flood plains, for example, and then are surprised when our houses are flooded out–but we used to be pretty good on response. That has changed, and the (very dramatic) turning point was Katrina in 2005.
However that was just the visible event. The national rot that led to Katrina in particular, has been happening everywhere, less visibly. But you are going to see it show more and more.
–Gaianne

Posted by: Gaianne | Oct 31 2012 5:09 utc | 35

Meteorological extremism…I love it. Conjures up images of Ahab railing against the whale.
How soon can we send in the drones?

Posted by: JohnH | Oct 31 2012 14:36 utc | 36

All of Manhattan has an underground electrical grid. Wind or floodwaters play havoc on any electrical system, take your pick, but the city below 35th Street has no power and won’t for days.

Posted by: sleepy | Oct 31 2012 15:00 utc | 37

Nice video: Hurricane Sandy on Bikes in NYC

Posted by: b | Nov 2 2012 14:37 utc | 38

The video b posted above appears to be behind a firewall at YouTube. Try this link for the Vimeo version. This one works for me.

Posted by: juannie | Nov 2 2012 16:38 utc | 39

I just got back on line today, after no power since Monday, 10/29, 7:ish PM. Ten days without heat, light, phone service, TV, internet. Big trees came down, huge, tall oaks and especially the shallow rooted tall pines. Lots of wires down. Lights came on last night, while I was asleep. I woke, saw yellowish light on my bedroom floor, at first was unable to figure out what it could be. I thought about getting the PC going, but was too tired and just turned off all the lights and went back to sleep under my mound of blankets.
Almost all frozen and refrigerated food ruined except for some donated to a local church.
That Monday evening I didn’t hear transformers any going out, but saw the lightshow effects of transformers blowing — green glows edged with purple and orange. Then darkness. Except for one house where the generator went on almost immediately after the power went out — and electricity was wasted on backyard lights. Whatev’….
Cell phones were almost useless the first week or just under. Patchy transmission due to towers being out, initially around 25% then down to 20% out of service. Could hear every third word or so.
Thank goodness for down comforters and Polar Fleece. Oh, and batteries and the LED flashlights (altho’ I hate the color of most LED flashlight bulbs and incandescent bulbs seem, to me, to make it easier to discern items in low light. But that could be because I grew up with the incandescent light spectrum. For me, that bluish white LED light is yucky.)
Thanks to all the utility workers and their support systems, both local and from out of state, for their hard work getting things back in place. I heard they were going through 1500 telephone poles a day, and that may have been for only one company, PSE&G. Replacement transformers were, apparently, in short supply. Heard this about my subonnia area of northern NJ, and it is hearsay.
I knew nothing about any support centers locally, but saw a local church sign that they had a warming center, hot coffee, wifi in their basement. I took some of my defrosting frozen foods to them when I learned they also were feeding people. That’s where I could get some information about local conditions, schedules for electricity getting back on line.
I had only radio for hearing news, and the NYC public radio station did a pretty good job of covering what was happening and what was being done. No real local news at all.
Concerning all the highrise housing for the poor and homeless in the NY-NJ area, I was stunned they did not have generators for emergency lighting, even emergency elevator use. And I kept wishing someone would come up with the old fashioned idea of the “bucket brigade,” only use the technigue for getting water and food to upper floors in these highrises. People on every step and the landings, handing the boxes of items up to the people who direly needed necessities as time is wearing on.
Calls from very elderly people from their highrise apartments were so sad. Most were so fatalistic and so matter of fact. No water? They held out hope someone would come with some. What would be would be. So many could not manage stairs, or could not safely do so.
I fear people may be found dead from dehydration or hypothermia.

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