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October 6, 2012
Open Thread 2012-25
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The Americas Blog is planning to live-blog Venezuela’s elections on Oct. 7. Posted by: Maracatu | Oct 6 2012 18:47 utc | 1 Ah Venezuela… another potential “color revolution” around the corner? The US media have been covering the election pretty heavy and pretty slanted. There is alot of oil at stake for whoever wins. Chavez is promising to double crude exports to China while Capriles has said he will privatise the industry, a big win for US oil companies.
Source: The Guardian
Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Oct 6 2012 20:14 utc | 2 But never mention the obvious http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrique_Capriles_Radonski Posted by: Daniel Rich | Oct 6 2012 23:07 utc | 4 Something that deserves a great deal more attention & focus than it has been given, is the GCC countries large-scale plans for the development of a massive nuclear power industry, with full US backing.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/774a8fc8-e6e4-11e1-af33-00144feab49a.html
http://analysis.nuclearenergyinsider.com/new-build/breaking-news-saudi-arabia-commits-over-100-billion-nuclear-new-build
http://analysis.nuclearenergyinsider.com/new-build/saudi-arabia-tap-nuclear-energy-market
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http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/saudi-nuclear-idINDEE83O0CY20120425 Posted by: KenM | Oct 6 2012 23:41 utc | 5 Also deserving of attention & greater publicity is Saudi Arabia’s ballistic missile forces & extensive, hardened basing infrastructure.
See Saudi Arabia’s Ballistic Missile Force Posted by: KenM | Oct 7 2012 0:38 utc | 6 “…..until the United States and Saudi Arabia conclude a bilateral nuclear cooperation agreement under Section 123 of the U.S. Atomic Energy Act…..” Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 7 2012 3:00 utc | 7 Ron Paul: “What I Fear The Most Is a False Flag – Something Happening Where One of Our Ships Goes Down, Or … a Plane Goes Down, And of Course It HAD To Be The Iranians, You Know, For Sure, For Certain” Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 7 2012 3:11 utc | 8 @b The GCC has to go nuclear. Otherwise they’ll consume all the industrialized world’s fossil fuels air conditioning their sun drenched buildings. Got to stop those A-rabs from wasting the West’s fuel! Posted by: JohnH | Oct 7 2012 4:35 utc | 10 Venezuela? Ho-hum. Been there; done that. If there’s unrest, it will be the usual suspects–hired guns of wealthy plutocrats, just like 2002. Posted by: JohnH | Oct 7 2012 4:39 utc | 11 Another interesting little piece of news:
http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2012/9/27/1236/ Posted by: KenM | Oct 7 2012 5:04 utc | 12 I have absolutely no idea what precipitated this, but I also have absolutely no doubt that it will be interpreted precisely the way it is intended. Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 7 2012 13:02 utc | 13 Venezuelan elections today. They have much importance for this hemisphere. If Chavez wins, it’s only a matter of time before the U.S. comes after him again. Posted by: ben | Oct 7 2012 15:45 utc | 14 Chavez must be most often elected pres. in the world. And with the best scores moreover. Posted by: Noirette | Oct 7 2012 15:46 utc | 15 Somewhere around 200,000 Colombian refugees (according to the UN – others have put it higher) have flooded into Venezuela over the last decade, and are bringing the insurgency & massive drug related violence with them. Posted by: KenM | Oct 7 2012 18:51 utc | 16 Interesting piece of news, Monolycus @13, & something that will have some very major knock-on effects : Posted by: KenM | Oct 7 2012 19:57 utc | 17 @17 “…they surely can’t last for much longer.” Posted by: ruralito | Oct 7 2012 21:08 utc | 18 Ruralito this is no longer the case Posted by: somebody | Oct 7 2012 22:07 utc | 19 http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/whatever-will-we-do-to-stop-democracy-in-venezuela/ Posted by: brian | Oct 7 2012 23:44 utc | 20 “somebody” I recall Papa Bush saying, The American Way of Life is not negotiable. ie, Murka will always have protection to sell if funding goes scarce. Posted by: ruralito | Oct 8 2012 1:28 utc | 21 Thanks for the analysis, KenM @17. I’m just trying to work out the timing. Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 8 2012 2:03 utc | 23 according to this article, it was Libya’s abdul hakim Belhaj who gave CIA Osama Bin Laden’s secret hide out Posted by: nikon | Oct 8 2012 3:16 utc | 24 *heh* Let the gnashing of teeth begin in the DC Beltway…! Hugo Chavez re-elected as Venezuelan president… By Gilad Atzmon Posted by: brian | Oct 8 2012 5:56 utc | 26 “The BDS clearly changed its goal statement.” Posted by: brian | Oct 8 2012 6:07 utc | 27 US COFR(Council of Foreign Relations) has plans for Venezuela Posted by: brian | Oct 8 2012 7:22 utc | 28 Well, brian @27… “1. Ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands occupied in June 1967 and dismantling the Wall” @Monolycus 23: Perhaps related to the dispute with Japan over Dokdu islands? That has been in the news here a little bit lately, although how the USG would perceive further inflaming tensions between two allies over this as desirable is beyond me. So maybe it has nothing to do with that. Posted by: Maxcrat | Oct 8 2012 14:03 utc | 30 @Monolycus 23: atleast some of it seems to be driven by this administrations ‘leading from behind’ policy, which involves strengthening ‘allied’ nations within a US-led & managed framework – these nations strengthening their military potential but under US guidance. Posted by: KenM | Oct 8 2012 21:19 utc | 31 “this will likely worsen an already volatile, complex set of disputes” Posted by: ruralito | Oct 8 2012 21:46 utc | 32 Amazing ruralito, Posted by: juannie | Oct 9 2012 0:19 utc | 33 The “complex set of disputes” in Korea is a U.S. construct, with an assist from China. The state of war that still exists between the US/ROK and North Korea (DPRK) benefits the US military-industrial complex, but without these selfish intentions concerning Korea the war would have been ended, Korea would have been unified (as many Koreans want) and there would be no need for the U.S. to station thousands of troops, and their families (indicating no threat) one air-hour from Beijing. b, you might be interested to read this: Posted by: Johnboy | Oct 9 2012 8:07 utc | 35 @Maxcrat(#30): I don’t suspect that it has anything to do with the ongoing Dokdo/Takeshima dispute, as that one has been simmering for ages and ages and ages here, and I doubt the US would take such a strong stand in favor of one strategic ally at the expense of the other. I wasn’t aware that was getting any airplay in the US now, but it’s ancient and ongoing here. Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 9 2012 11:27 utc | 36 The US has maintained a state of war, under armistice, in Korea for sixty years in order to justify keeping large military forces in the western Pacific. North Korea (DPRK) is claimed to be a threat by the US, however the South Korean (ROK) forces are much stronger. for those who missed it: here is UNDERGROUND.the complete movie Posted by: brian | Oct 9 2012 14:19 utc | 38 I find this story about Israel marble very funny in lot of ways. Posted by: somebody | Oct 9 2012 18:03 utc | 39 Iran’s export trade will burgeon as its currency devalues. Perhaps the US will get lucky and Iran will promote sanctions on it, with similar results. The two thousandth US military member has died in Afghanistan, due to a misunderstanding. i received this email from Leonor Massanet on crisis events in Libya Posted by: brian | Oct 9 2012 20:32 utc | 42 ‘The two thousandth US military member has died in Afghanistan, due to a misunderstanding.’ Posted by: brian | Oct 9 2012 20:34 utc | 43 as for this monster: Posted by: brian | Oct 9 2012 20:35 utc | 44 *heh* Just imagine the possibilities… The US State Department is reworking the narrative on the Libyan consulate attack. *sigh* I need a custodian to come clean out the Memory Hole in my office. It’s getting jammed up. Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 10 2012 4:46 utc | 46 On a slightly cheerier note, while we’ve been watching how the psychotic’s look to expand their influence – spread chaos & blow everything to sh*t ; Posted by: KenM | Oct 10 2012 5:15 utc | 47 Yep, the “west” has “lost” and is now throwing a tantrum. Remember, China’s financial rise is due to the US not protecting its workforce, keeping consumer costs down by importing cheap products from China it does not balance by exports. There is no way to fight this by military or by finance. Posted by: somebody | Oct 10 2012 6:35 utc | 48 My wife,totally apolitical,said this morning,what happened to Hugo Chavez,she hadn’t heard his name lately.I replied,before perusing the net,that he must have won in a landslide.Viola! Posted by: dahoit | Oct 10 2012 15:30 utc | 49 Oh yeah,been sick lately,how about that Sashkasvilli? characters defeat?Another poison ivy league monster gone down in flames.Yippee Ki Yah! Posted by: dahoit | Oct 10 2012 15:33 utc | 50 And here’s another professional at work…
Posted by: KenM | Oct 10 2012 18:11 utc | 51 @Don Bacon #41 –
the Taliban (or whoever they were) must still be laughing; maybe they just discovered a new guerrilla tactic Posted by: claudio | Oct 10 2012 23:46 utc | 52 so, what’s gonna happen first – the “Guns of August” thundering in the Middle East, or the flare-up of the Eurozone (less bloody, but just as messy)? the latter case would rule out Nato intervention in the ME, so it would be a good thing; besides, economists say it’s inevitable because the Euro is unsustainable, so the sooner the better Posted by: claudio | Oct 15 2012 23:56 utc | 53 B and/or commenters: Posted by: jdmckay | Oct 16 2012 20:18 utc | 54 @55 Posted by: jdmckay | Oct 16 2012 20:56 utc | 56 Complete known information should be here Posted by: somebody | Oct 16 2012 21:16 utc | 57 I just have to say, Mitt Romney would be the perfect actor for the role of Satan in a movie. He’s got undefinable little extra about his being, that devilish republican satanist look. Posted by: Alexander | Oct 17 2012 17:33 utc | 58 @jdmckay – some of the threat reduction stuff was not canceled under Bush but continued until recently when Russia pulled the plug on it because it now has enough money to do it themselves: Nunn-Lugar No Longer? Those wishing to protest the banning of Iran’s Press TV by Eutelsat can sign a petition. If anyone has links to other petitions (not sponsored by the “plaintiff” in the case) I would be interested. The ban is rather stupid, of course, since one can still access Press TV on-line at the Press TV website (and similarly for another “objectionable TV channel”, Russia Today), but it still seems right to take a stand for freedom of the press. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 18 2012 15:07 utc | 60 b@59: Posted by: jdmckay | Oct 18 2012 20:47 utc | 61 the *democratisation* of myanmar in full swing….. Posted by: denk | Oct 20 2012 3:29 utc | 62 @ jdmackay Posted by: SF | Oct 20 2012 23:14 utc | 63 more r n r at the world’s most scenic spots, all expense paid by the locals Posted by: denk | Oct 22 2012 7:47 utc | 64 another plus for dems Posted by: denk | Oct 22 2012 10:30 utc | 65 r.i.p. russell means, more crazy horse than red cloud Posted by: b real | Oct 22 2012 15:07 utc | 66 |
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