Israeli Bombs Against Gaddhafi And The GCC-Israel Coalition

October 12, 2012

A report about the war on Libya by the Danish Air Force reveals that Denmark used Israeli bombs during that campaign:

The ammunition deficiency problem eventually forced the Danish Air Force to seek precision-bomb munitions parts from Israel, a highly controversial move given that the NATO mission in Libya was backed by the Arab League, consisting of many member states have less than amicable political relations with Israel.

There will be no repercussions over this for Denmark.

There is by now serious doubt about the Arab League’s “less than amicable political relations with Israel”. Indeed there seems to be a silent coalition of the Gulf Counterrevolution Club with Israel with the common enemy being Hizbullah, Syria, Iraq and Iran as the axis of resistance against Israel or, in the GCC terminology, the Shia crescent. That coalition is actively fostered by the U.S. and its western clients.

The coalition is sure to fall apart when the wave of change eventually reaches those monarchies and brings in governments that will have answer to their people. That point is likely less far away than today’s conventional wisdom anticipates.

Posted by b on October 12, 2012 at 14:44 UTC | Permalink

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Qatari take over of France
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3392/qatar-france

Posted by: nikon | Oct 12 2012 17:11 utc | 1

The Qataris and The Saudis, who apparently planned and financed ALL of this (in Libya and Syria), must have ginormous influence over both NATO-member-states and Israel to arm-twist both into bombing Libya.

Posted by: SufferingFools | Oct 12 2012 17:20 utc | 2

Maybe I’m suffering from a Bizarre Inversion of Reality myself, and in fact NATO and Israel are merely only the puppet Mercenaries of the Saudi and Qatari Royalty

Posted by: SufferingFools | Oct 12 2012 17:23 utc | 3

I think Qatar and SA planned and financed a lot of what happened and happens in Libya and Syria. No need to arm-twist anyone. Sarkozy, Cameron and Clinton where happy, for different reasons, to encourage, play along, and ride the wave. What Israel really thinks no one really knows, because its thinking is getting weirder by the day, and also because they have this obsession, that they must always show they are in the loop. Certainly they weren’t happy with Mubarak’s ouster; Gaddafi, who considered himself an African, rather than an Arab leader, probably didn’t concern them much; Assad, still am not sure where Israel stands.
The outcome in Libya and Syria, plus the economic crisis, must have cooled a lot of fervor in the West. Someone may be playing for precisely such chaotic outcomes, but I don’t think it’s the majority.
The “export of democracy” with the greatest direct meddling by the Us, and which faded away from the radars, is Yemen, where the US embassy security chief was killed two days ago.

Posted by: claudio | Oct 12 2012 18:54 utc | 4

@1, interesting. Perhaps the endgame is a fanatical Mormon state, vs a fanatical Muslim one. Go Romney!

Posted by: ruralito | Oct 12 2012 19:05 utc | 5

@3, makes no sense. Why doesn’t US and NATO just go take over the Saudis, Qataris etc. They get the oil, destroy Wahabism. Win-win. Good grief, Syria at least is trying to be a peaceful, secular state. Which everybody (says) they want.

Posted by: ruralito | Oct 12 2012 19:12 utc | 6

– From the sound of the article, a guess would be that they used SPICE designed by Rafael. Spice is a kit that turns an unguided bomb into a precision-bomb linked to GPS. Its basically a kit that allows you to attach a new hi-tech head onto any 1000 or 2000 pound bomb. Demo Video
I think this because the article doesn’t say they bought bombs, they bought “precision-bomb munitions parts from Israel” don’t see it being anything else but SPICE. Another question would be why they used the much more expensive SPICE kit from Israel instead of using American JDAMS, which work the same but are much cheaper.
– On a side note Hezbollah drones.

Only hours after Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, said he would retaliate against future incursions Hizbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said: “This is not the first time and will not be the last. We can reach any place we want.”

Israel Army radio and the top-selling Yediot Aharonot daily said the air force had only managed to shoot down the drone on the second attempt.
Both reports said that the first missile fired by the F-16 jet missed the drone which was eventually brought by a Panther missile, the military’s most advanced air-to-air projectile.

Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Oct 12 2012 19:59 utc | 7

SF – you are hasty as usual, always in a hurry to place tags on people’s thoughts; I don’t believe in blowback; the very unfortunate fact is that there’s no blowback at all; the Us simply walks in somewhere and destroys things around; if the outcome is to its taste then ok, otherwise it walks away and goes after another country
two oceans protect the Us from blowback; that helps a lot to explain its irresponsible policies
I’d really like to express my views without your insulting, sarcastic stupid footnotes; if you have evidence for what you say then share it with us, otherwise you are doing just what everybody else here does, basically making educated guesses; maybe smoking something good might help your character, if not your ideas

Posted by: claudio | Oct 12 2012 20:02 utc | 8

re 6
If the jihadis, or other similar, wanted to invade Saudi Arabia, the northern frontier is entirely open. They’ve dug a trench, but that won’t stop infiltration.
Saudi Arabia is very weak. The Eastern Province, Shi’a over the oil wells, is in revolt, but that has been mastered so far.
So far Bashshar has been gentle with the Saudis, because he wants their approval.
If he were seriously at risk, the logical response would be to send people into Saudi to stir up rebellion. Easy to create confusion.

Posted by: alexno | Oct 12 2012 20:05 utc | 9

more on topic: Israel and Qatar are de facto Nato members; evidence of synergies and collaboration will mount, people are already getting used to it
democratic governments in the Gulf would sure change the whole equation in the Middle East, I hope b’s forecast is correct

Posted by: claudio | Oct 12 2012 20:06 utc | 10

re 11
Israel and Qatar are de facto Nato members; evidence of synergies and collaboration will mount, people are already getting used to it
You know, invasion of the Arabian peninsula would be easy, if one had the right people. So far, Bashshar has not wanted to do it, but if he were desperate, he might do it – send propagandists to stir the Shi’a.

Posted by: alexno | Oct 12 2012 20:39 utc | 11

@ruralito – I don’t understand why on earth should Nato invade and get rid of important allies
@alexno – that Assad would want to invade at least makes sense; but what makes you think it would be easy or even feasible? to “stir the Shia” (just in case they needed help in this sense) requires capabilities that go beyond the Syrian state; probably Iran is one of the very few countries in the world equipped at this kind of game
as for jihadis invading SA, there isn’t much need of it, they already hold power there

Posted by: claudio | Oct 12 2012 21:27 utc | 12

@SF, I spend no time at all “hunting for things to be offneded by”, I read MoA’s wonderful blog and encounter these childish comments of yours, ridiculing people that don’t agree with your ridiculous idea of infallible and all-powerful and clairvoyant Us/Israeli strategists

Posted by: claudio | Oct 12 2012 21:31 utc | 13

well, yes, since also the Us administration is full of “psychopathic nihilist fundamentalists”, so all considered it is more probable than your fairy tale

Posted by: claudio | Oct 12 2012 21:50 utc | 14

Smart bombs for smart people who don’t need fallacies or personal attacks to understand the delicate intricacies of Geo-political, multipronged strategies and its accompanying load of horse manure. Go hasbarra central. Go! http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/fallacies.html

Posted by: Daniel Rich | Oct 12 2012 22:19 utc | 15

Decline of the Roman Empire
“Lucien Musset and the clash of civilizations
In the spirit of “Pirenne thesis”, a school of thought pictured a clash of civilizations between the Roman and the Germanic world, a process taking place roughly between 3rd and 8th century.
The French historian Lucien Musset, studying the Barbarian invasions, argues the civilization of Medieval Europe emerged from a synthesis between the Graeco-Roman world and the Germanic civilizations penetrating the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire did not fall, did not decline, it just transformed but so did the Germanic populations which invaded it. To support this conclusion, beside the narrative of the events, he offers linguistic surveys of toponymy and anthroponymy, analyzes archaeological records, studies the urban and rural society, the institutions, the religion, the art, the technology.”
Ok? Thex still teach Latin in our schools :-))
It is physics: When a force acts on a body due to another body then an equal and opposite force acts simultaneously on that body.

Posted by: somebody | Oct 12 2012 22:55 utc | 16

@9, two oceans, lol, and nobodies for neighbo(u)rs! The whole shootin match got for a song. Compare that with the rest of the world: invasions, genocides, famines, carpet bombings ad nauseam. No wonder Americans see themselves as particularly blessed.
@14, don’t understand? I gave two reasons. Rather cogent ones, I think.

Posted by: ruralito | Oct 12 2012 23:01 utc | 17

“as for jihadis invading SA…they already hold power there”
No they don’t.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 13 2012 0:23 utc | 18

from Wikipedia
“Pact with Muhammad bin Saud
Upon his expulsion from ‘Uyayna, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab was invited to settle in neighboring Diriyah by its ruler Muhammad bin Saud. Upon arriving in Diriyah, Muhammad bin Saud and Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab concluded an agreement that, together, they would bring the Arabs of the peninsula back to the “true” principles of Islam as they saw it. According to one source, when they first met, bin Saud declared:
“This oasis is yours, do not fear your enemies. By the name of God, if all Nejd was summoned to throw you out, we will never agree to expel you.” Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab replied, “You are the settlement’s chief and wise man. I want you to grant me an oath that you will perform jihad (holy war) against the unbelievers. In return you will be imam, leader of the Muslim community and I will be leader in religious matters”.
—Madawi al-Rasheed, A History of Saudi Arabia: 16
The agreement was confirmed with an oath in 1744.[30] This agreement became a “mutual support pact”[citation needed] and power-sharing arrangement between the Al Saud and the Al ash-Sheikh, which has remained in place for nearly 300 years,[31] providing the ideological impetus to Saudi expansion.”
Clear?

Posted by: somebody | Oct 13 2012 4:46 utc | 19

Clear? .. As mud.
Oh, we’ll maybe so. So why all the angst about jihadis if they are America’s and Israel’s bestest friends?

Posted by: DM | Oct 13 2012 7:49 utc | 20

To get back to the subject of this threat – the US (and Turkey) is stuck in the Middle East with aggressive medieval kingdoms as financer and ally who fuel forces US soldiers officially fight, who use an official political and religious discourse adverse to Western values and whose enmity to Russia make a “reset” of relations impossible.
US state departments warnings to other countries that they are on the wrong side of history sound very hollow indeed.
Israel as a viable military outpost and political asset is finished,I guess, that Hezbollah drone was meant as a reminder I suppose.

Posted by: somebody | Oct 13 2012 7:59 utc | 21

@DM – jihadis aren’t Israel’s and the Us’ “best friends”, they are assets used against the real enemy of colonialism, that is nationalism; and against the real enemy of the GCC, the Iranian republican and democratic “model”
there are big problems of controlling religious radicals trained and financed for jihad, but it’s not blowback, it’s “collateral damage”;
“blowback” is used improperly; the real blowback of Us colonialism e permanent war structures is the loss of democracy at home

Posted by: claudio | Oct 13 2012 10:02 utc | 22

One could imagine different sorts of jihadi belonging to other Islamic sects, even Shi’a – they wouldn’t necessarily have to be Wahhabi or Salafi. That’s what I mean by saying that Asad could send jihadis into Saudi. All the Gulf countries (including saudi) are wide open to jihadi invasion.
Yes, of course, the Saudi kingdom was established by “jihadis”, particularly in the 1920s. The Saudis had a difficult time calming them down when the kingdom stabilised in the 1930s.

Posted by: alexno | Oct 13 2012 11:36 utc | 23

Yes, of course, the Saudi kingdom was established by “jihadis”, particularly in the 1920s. The Saudis had a difficult time calming them down when the kingdom stabilised in the 1930s.

They only calmed down by making Wahhabism the state religion.

US state departments warnings to other countries that they are on the wrong side of history sound very hollow indeed.

Shamoon! Doesn’t really strike fear in the heart. But, this virus was critical enough that Defence Secretary Leon Panetta in a speech last night in New York mentioned it. He said that it was the “worst cyberattack to hit the private business sector” to date and it was done by iran as a payback for sanctions. Didn’t he think the multiply virus attacks that hit Iran’s nuclear, oil facilities, and port facilities might have been the real reason? But then many US officials like the British are blessed with AMNESIA.

Posted by: hans | Oct 13 2012 11:44 utc | 24

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