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July 17, 2012

Fire Crews At Their Best

My admiration goes out to the fire crews in Istanbul who, according to these headlines, managed to extinguish this fire two minutes before it broke out.

This partial screenshot is from the current NYT homepage.

It is just another (snarky) reminder to keep a skeptic view towards internet speed news and headlines.

Posted by b on July 17, 2012 at 10:41 UTC | Permalink


Funny example. Often new report about past events as if they had occured today.

Posted by: Antifo | Jul 17 2012 11:13 utc | 1

Lesson here...Don't play with fire..

Posted by: Zico | Jul 17 2012 11:27 utc | 2

some interesting links and videos regarding Syria..these are must see!!!
VIDEO-Saudi Flag is the Banner of the "Free Syrian Army" Terrorists
video-Free Syrian Army Defectors Collaborate with Syrian Army

Posted by: ALI | Jul 17 2012 13:42 utc | 3

Another sort of fire crew:

Posted by: m_s | Jul 17 2012 14:31 utc | 4

These headlines show how reporting even truthful information can be spun to ones advantage (I assume both stories report the fire and attempts to put out the fire but the headlines simply focus on different parts of this story--and it's better to focus on the fire part because "putting out" a fire is more subjective).

For instance, the headlines "FSA terrorists take over town and half were killed or captured" can be just as factually accurate as "Syrian government assaults yet another town and kills dozens of people."

Posted by: Walter Wit Man | Jul 17 2012 17:19 utc | 5

To be fair, the timing only gives when the news were posted, not when the events happen. Though, you all knew that, just thought I'd point it out.

Posted by: Alexander | Jul 17 2012 18:07 utc | 6

And No, I'm am absolutely not going to mention anything about the fire not bringing down a steel skyscraper.

Well write a snarky post and get a snarky comment :D

What I read today:

- China pivots to Latin America: Talking about how China could respond to the US pivot by moving deeper into South America (China hosted Columbia's President a few days ago and Raul Castro last week as well as signing a new trade deal with the regional Mercosur).


- Hillary Clinton got a nice send-off in Egypt as she was leaving with crowds of Egyptian protesters throwing tomatoes, shoes, and chanting "Monica" at her. One of the main banners simply said "Hillary Clinton You are Not Welcome in Egypt". She now moves on to Israel to be welcomed by fascists more to her suiting.


- Ethiopian Regime Crumbles (Enter CIA): Alot has been written about the US losing influence in the Middle East. Losing Mubarack and Ben Ali in Tunisa were hard blows as well as losing Iraq to Iran. The next blow could come from Ethiopia which has the largest army in Africa and does the US bidding. The Pro-US regime is crumbling.

With its foundations irreparably cracked and its edifices of power crumbling the Ethiopian regime headed by Meles Zenawi is turning more and more to the CIA to make the critical decisions in the ministries of power in the capital Addis Ababa. Faced with growing nationalist insurgencies, an ongoing economic crisis and calls for regime change from the heights of the religious community, the isolation surrounding Meles Zenawi grows almost by the day.


On Sunday, half a million Muslims marched in the Ethiopian capital, in what AllAfrica called the biggest protest in Africa since Tahrir Square, dozens were injured and 2 killed. Could very well be the next domino to fall and barely being reported.

Posted by: Colm O' Toole | Jul 17 2012 19:33 utc | 7

Egyptians actually did not only show Hillary Clinton that she is not liked, they also denounced US sectarian Middle East politics
Egypt's Coptic Leaders Snub Clinton
"A number of Coptic political figures issued a joint statement announcing their refusal to meet with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during her visit to Cairo. The statement — which was signed by Naguib Sawiris, Dr. Emad Gad, Georgette Kalliny and Michael Mounir — said that since the eruption of the glorious revolution, Clinton, along with a number of US politicians, had visited Cairo and held meetings, and expressed the US’ support for political Islamist movements while generally ignoring the civil and secular movements in Egypt.
The statement added that at the time, and especially before the legislative and presidential elections, these visits were seen as a form of external pressure aiming to empower the religious movement in Egypt. It also said that the [US administration] went as far as to announce their interest in a specific presidential candidate. The statement noted that Clinton’s current visit and her desire to meet with Coptic politicians after having met with the Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafist leaders is a form of sectarian division, which is rejected by the Egyptian people in general and by Christians in particular. Therefore, they declined the invitation to attend the meeting to protest against the policies of Mrs. Hillary Clinton and in solidarity with the Egyptian street, which also rejects these policies."

Posted by: somebody | Jul 17 2012 19:57 utc | 8

This is only a question of the speed of the internet. Easy to imagine that news of the solution arrives before news of the problem. Not worth your attention, b.

Posted by: alexno | Jul 17 2012 20:26 utc | 9

re 7 O'Toole

On Sunday, half a million Muslims marched in the Ethiopian capital, in what AllAfrica called the biggest protest in Africa since Tahrir Square, dozens were injured and 2 killed.

There is an important point here. We have always thought of Ethiopia as a Christian country, but according to wiki, 34% are Muslim. I would have thought the reality is more than what the Ethiopian government would have you believe.

I don't know that serious trouble will occur in Ethiopia, but I wouldn't be surprised if it does.

Posted by: alexno | Jul 17 2012 20:57 utc | 10

There is an interesting piece by the redoubtable Tom Mountain on the Counterpunch site today.

Bang on cue today's Guardian contains a piece of shlock horror propaganda blaming Eritrea for all the world's ills. It looks like another state is being lined up for the Liberal Humanitarian subversion treatment.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 18 2012 0:30 utc | 11

alexno (#9).

I think it was worth his attention. He showed that the speed of news delivery has outstripped comprehension by far. If you can't even relate uncontroversial news of a fire to an adjacent item saying it has already been extinguished, how can you ever hope to penetrate the propaganda barrage surrounding more important news?

Posted by: Bob Jackson | Jul 18 2012 6:28 utc | 12

@Bob - yes, that was my point. "News" items are becoming to fast to analyze. One has to watch the news stream, several items on an issue, and take some time to make sense of them, to have a bit of comprehension of what is going on.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2012 15:15 utc | 13

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