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May 9, 2012
There Is Nothing “Double” With This Agent

I am sorry for bothering the readers here with nitpicking on the media, but I really don't get this one.

CNN headlines: U.S. official upset over leak about double agent in bomb plot

The Merriam-Webster definition for: double agent – noun:

a spy pretending to serve one government while actually serving another

Why are CNN (and AP and the New York Times) presenting the Saudi spy that infiltrated AQAP as a "double agent"? According to CNN's own report:

The double agent, who volunteered as a suicide bomber for the terrorist group, was actually working as an intelligence agent for Saudi Arabia, a source in the region familiar with the operation told CNN.

The agent works for Saudi intelligence, which has cooperated with the CIA for years, the source said.

"Indeed, we always were the ones managing him," the source told CNN.

If the guy in question was always managed by the Saudis and was used to infiltrate AQAP in a kind of sting operation to go after some bomb maker. Without this man this airline bomb plot would probably never have happened. The man in question was a Saudi agent – fullstop. There was obviously never anything "double" with him.

Is there any explanation then why the media are pushing this "double agent" meme? Who is telling them to do so and why?

Comments

yes B, he was apparently a terrorist, and yet, he was working for the Saudis. That makes him a double agent. If he were working as a CIA informant, though was actually with the KGB, that would be a double agent. It’s a question of parallax that has you confused.

Posted by: scottindallas | May 9 2012 12:06 utc | 1

oh, now I get it! he was a CIA agent pretending to be a Saudi agent
that makes him a double agent
@scottindallas: he wasn’t a terrorist

Posted by: claudio | May 9 2012 13:07 utc | 2

elaborating a little further:
could it be that relations between Us, Saudi Arabia and Yemen are duplicitous and mistrustful enough to
– it appears he indeed was a double agent, in the sense of my previous post: he worked for the Saudis, but gave information directly to the CIA and, it appears, the bomb directly to the FBI;
– Yemen complained “that Washington had shared no information with them”; might well be Yemen AND Saudi Arabia; maybe the whole sting plot was conceived and handled exclusively by the CIA; (admittedly, it could be that Yemenis want to distance themselves from the operation because they don’t want to be associated with the subsequent drone strike);
– AP probably knows this, and maybe unconsciously, maybe maliciously, used the term “double agent”
in any case, there’s a question: who, in the Us, would want to blow the wistle on this operation? (this very fact throws a different light on the whole operation)

Posted by: claudio | May 9 2012 14:44 utc | 3

the gov and journalists are treating ‘al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula'(AQAP) as a virtual government. therefore the agent of the cia (assuming the source here is cia:”Indeed, we always were the ones managing him,” the source told CNN) was allegedly double agent(spy) of both AQAP and the cia.
this story sounds like total bs hype to retroactively justify drone operations in yemen.

Posted by: annie | May 9 2012 14:54 utc | 4

Watching NBC News last night all the huff and puff was how great the US security agencies are to fold this new threat and there was a little mention of cooperation with “friendly” agencies. So the pattern was to take credit for this while still mentioning, but not mentioning other agencies.
No matter the local political reasons were to take credit for this i still hold that AL Qaeda is a Saudi organization and although some split took place after Bin Laden went his way, the organization is still Saudi managed to their purposes. There has been a lot of Al Qaeda presence in Libya and Syria that i believe strongly were sent by Saudis to spread terror. Double Agent my a**, these guys are owned and controlled by Saudis and do the dirty work for those who want to stay in the background.

Posted by: ana souri | May 9 2012 15:11 utc | 5

Good Reuters peice on the situation in Yemen: U.S. drone attacks in Yemen cause political strain

“For the first time al Qaeda controls territory,” said one diplomat. “As the United States sees it, unless they are kept on the run, it will only be a matter of time before al Qaeda launches another attack on the West.”
Yet global jihad is not the main public concern of Ansar al-Sharia, which has set up de facto administrations in captured towns, providing security and basic services to a region that has long bristled at official neglect and discrimination.
Recent videos published by the group on YouTube show its members in Jaar, renamed “the emirate of Waqar”, handing out sacks of grain, rigging up electricity lines and dealing out justice in a makeshift sharia Islamic court.
“When did you last have electricity?” one fighter asks an old man sat on a rock as his compatriots assemble a pylon behind him. “We’ve never had electricity,” replies the man in disdain.
Ansar al-Sharia has let the Red Cross implement water projects and provide health care to the internally displaced.

Yemeni officials and Western diplomats agree that restructuring the armed forces, one objective of the transition deal, is paramount to winning the fight against extremism.
But reforming the military cuts to the heart of a tense standoff between relatives of Saleh still in senior military and security positions and opponents determined to oust them.
The United States has not openly endorsed the wholesale removal of Saleh relatives, some of whom command elite units funded by Washington for years, prompting some Yemeni suspicions that it still sees them as allies in its fight with al Qaeda.
“Anti-American sentiment is on the rise. Not just in the villages which are being bombarded, but across the entire country, in the cities, in the universities too,” said Abdullah al-Faqih, politics professor at Sanaa University.
“People feel as though their country’s sovereignty is being violated, that their new president’s government is nothing but a board of directors governed by the Americans.”

That’s not gonna end in a pretty way …

Posted by: b | May 9 2012 15:29 utc | 6

At least the BBC wakes up to this nonsense double agent talk

[H]e appears to have been run by the Saudi intelligence in conjunction with the CIA. Other countries may also have been involved although British officials declined to comment.
The individual has been described by some as a “double agent”. In fact, it seems more likely that he is a straightforward undercover agent who infiltrated the group and not a double agent whose loyalties shifted or who told both sides he was working against the other.
The agent managed to convince the Yemen-based al-Qaeda group that he wanted to carry out an attack but then took the device he was given – an underwear bomb impossible to detect by most airport security – and somehow ensured it was delivered it to those it was meant to target.

Again my question: Why is the U.S. media using this nonsense “double agent”? Who told them to do so and why?

Posted by: b | May 9 2012 15:34 utc | 8

He could of course also be a triple agent, or even a quadruple agent!!!!!!
Would 2 Double agents equal one Quadruple agent??
Enquiring minds wish to know . . . . .

Posted by: Marmite | May 9 2012 15:41 utc | 9

It all an exercise in Saudi and CIA image improvement.
More Ziomonster propaganda to stroke the WOT.

Posted by: dahoit | May 9 2012 16:21 utc | 10

Uppping or creating ‘islamist’ terrorism has been a tough, extremely challenging, row to hoe.
Shoe bombers, panty bombers, you’d think it was a fashion mag, it is pathetic.
Even desperately poor Muslims in dire straits don’t fall into traps. Finding one who will is like looking for a needle in a haystack. And even then, they don’t perform, mess it up, confess before the act, have to be coerced, threatened, manipulated, etc.
All – all – studies of ‘terrorism’ in the past ten years show that, in the West, 99% of damage / attacks are made by home grown groups, radicals from the left, the right, by separatists, and by wedge issue ppl (e.g. animal rights.)
Attacks by these are not covered much in the media, even if some ppl died, or were disfigured, etc. They pass by unnoticed. In CH, for ex. we have had attacks against banks with letter bombs that kill and maim – who ever heard about that? Nobody! – It was all hushed up.
Terror is Islam…

Posted by: Noirette | May 9 2012 16:22 utc | 11

For the same reason Diane Sawyer on ABC Evening News last night spoke of Putin as “strongman Putin”? And told to use that language by roughly the same crew of US government officials? Propaganda.
The 10 seconds of hate against Putin and Russia is being ginned up, and hate is usually reserved for those whom the US government needs to, sooner or later, attack.
The brief video runs from about 13:10 to 13:39 — and, frustratingly, I can’t seem to control reverse or fast forward on ABC’s video. Grrrr.
And it’s a little boy, not a little girl. Small correction to my comment in the Open Thread.

Posted by: jawbone | May 9 2012 16:55 utc | 12

Why is the U.S. media using this nonsense “double agent”?
from the reuters link:

Yet global jihad is not the main public concern of Ansar al-Sharia, which has set up de facto administrations in captured towns

there’s that framing again, they are trying to position the Ansar al-Sharia as a government in the minds of americans. from wiki:

Ali Abdullah Saleh and Islamist militant forces, possibly including elements of al-Qaeda, for control of the town of Zinjibar and its surroundings as part of the wider insurgency in the self-declared Islamic Emirate of Abyan. Many of the Islamist forces operating in Abyan province refer to themselves as Ansar al-Sharia

the ‘double agent’ lingo is framing their agent as an agent of the “self-declared Islamic Emirate of Abyan”.

Posted by: annie | May 9 2012 18:23 utc | 13

simple, because are trying to fudge the fact, that their agent initiated the plot.

Posted by: somebody | May 9 2012 19:23 utc | 14

somebody, most likely.

Posted by: annie | May 9 2012 20:22 utc | 15

well, not sure if the agent initiated it. could have been the cia. no different than they way the feds have been setting up stings in the US.

Posted by: annie | May 9 2012 20:23 utc | 16

Victory has a thousand fathers; defeat is an orphan.

John F. Kennedy, “A Thousand Days,” by Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr [1965]., p289. Comment made by JFK in the aftermath of the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, 1961.

Maybe it’s just whoever can claim credit is doing so. But, my, it’s a whole lot of info coming out about what appears to be an undercover agent….

Posted by: jawbone | May 9 2012 20:32 utc | 17

well, there seem to be terrorist plots now without terrorists.
Its recommendable, actually, you get the political effect without doing any harm…

Posted by: somebody | May 9 2012 21:19 utc | 18

The point seems to have been to reveal the bomb-maker al-Qussou, who was then subsequently killed by drone attack, though he was also supposedly killed once before.
As Saudi intelligence is said to have done everything, one wonders what is the US role.
I have no idea what happens in Yemen, on the ground. Someone is feeding them responses to the drone attacks. Are they accurate? I have very great doubts. They must be sources close to the president. They must have interests to give positive responses to the US.
So what’s the worth of anything we hear from Yemen?

Posted by: alexno | May 9 2012 22:03 utc | 19

Fact is, folks, since “9/11” ALL the “terror” plots our government has “thwarted” had gotten help from that very government or they wouldn’t have amounted to a hill of beans. Whether it’s FBI or CIA, the story is the same, “Be afraid, be very afraid, because TERROR still lurks”.
Truth told, the “war on terror” is as bogus as the “war on drugs”. Too many contractors making too much money and thus no one has the balls to shut it all down.

Posted by: Cynthia | May 10 2012 0:48 utc | 20

Cynthia @ 20: Yup!

Posted by: ben | May 10 2012 1:58 utc | 21

@8 I am rather depressed by this part of that BBC report: “Crucially, it may help establish whether there is some way of picking up this device through airport security”
Ahem. What if there isn’t any way for scanners to pick this up?
Are they going to ban underpants from airports, and insist that everyone undertake a rectal probe before boarding their flight?

Posted by: Johnboy | May 10 2012 2:58 utc | 22

Don’t apologise, b. The law of averages says you’ll be wrong one day. But today wasn’t it.
Ex-CIA agent, Robert Baer, poured a deluge of cold water on the entire story in this interview. Baer all but accused the CIA & FBI as trying to look stupid.
Underwear bomber reported to be secret service agent
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2012/s3499283.htm

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 10 2012 5:38 utc | 23

Long time reader, first time commenting & here’s just a few thoughts that I blogged on this false flag scenario:
The CIA COINTELPRO programme continues unabated, over the weekend we had a media blitz telling us it’s the Al-CIAda in Yemen franchise that wants a piece of the action, by launching a new and improved underwear bomber:
http://hotterthanapileofcurry.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/creating-the-terror-threat-cia-al-qaedas-underwear-bomber-v-2-0/
Presumably the Y fronts are out and boxer shorts are in?
By Monday night, we found out that the Al-Qaeda underwear bomber works for the CIA:
http://hotterthanapileofcurry.wordpress.com/2012/05/09/the-al-qaeda-underwear-bomber-works-for-the-cia/
What if he goes commando next time?

Posted by: The Akh | May 10 2012 9:47 utc | 24

in all seriousness, who is the intended audience of this tripe? nobody gives a rat’s ass, except for a handful of insiders and their watchers (you guys). outside of that, the planet continues to revolve around the sun as it has done for billions of years and will continue to do until we determine we were maybe wrong about that perspective, as well.

Posted by: wenis | May 10 2012 11:49 utc | 25

@ 25: Yes wenis, the world is truly a wonderful place, full of unicorns and rainbows, so, let’s all just sit back, discuss nothing, and enjoy.

Posted by: ben | May 10 2012 14:24 utc | 26

that doesn’t answer the question or address the point, ben. it may get your rocks off and validate your superior misery, but outside of that, did anyone see the tree fall? i say the answer to that is no, no one outside of the small group of actors and watchers will ever know the difference without a proper context, and that context for them may never be possible if they don’t have the capacity to perceive it. considering that, isn’t it just a ritualistic circle jerk for a small band of brothers?

Posted by: wenis | May 10 2012 14:54 utc | 27

wenis @27: Whatever..

Posted by: ben | May 10 2012 15:18 utc | 28

@ 27 & 28.
You’re probably both right.
Obama has already delivered several State of The Unicorn Addresses.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 10 2012 15:57 utc | 29

wenis comes from the future where MoA is “irrelevant” to put us back on the true path, nihilism.

Posted by: ruralito | May 10 2012 16:30 utc | 30

ruralito comes for the daily fix. might as well keep the rubber band on considering the frequency of the dosing.

Posted by: wenis | May 10 2012 16:46 utc | 31

fixing daily? That’s not so frequent if it only takes a few minutes to shoot up. Get your story straight, when is.

Posted by: ruralito | May 10 2012 17:25 utc | 32

So everything is futile? Oh, better just go to sleep then, and don’t bother getting up.

Posted by: Alexander | May 10 2012 17:52 utc | 33

Repetitive, sorry.
So the Saudis not only provoke but create ‘terror.’ Yes.
All these fake terror plots, shoe and underwear bombers, etc. are totally pathetic.
In CH, as everywhere in the W world, the terror attacks in the last two years have been the work of:
unknown ppl against bankers. Letter bombs, several, did damage. Not one word in the MSM.
Known anarchists /animal rights / anti corp ppl (all identified, in prison or out on bail today, several Italians) against IBM and labs and the like. Just a few parags. on the back page.
99% of terror attacks are by such ppl, to sum up, the extreme left, extreme right, anarchists, separatists, and that is it. (Nobody cares, this is just ordinary life, the damage done is small)
Then there is the fuzzy line between the lone nut, ordinary criminal, and the ‘terrorist’ who supposedly acts not on individual crazed motives (e.g. schizoid, a hate for blonds in tennis clothes, serial killers who murder prostitutes, etc.) but with some kind of ethnic, cultural, nationalist, political agenda. If any vague link can be made with Islam, there you go!
Again my question: Why is the U.S. media using this nonsense “double agent”? Who told them to do so and why?
The nonsense is just to obfuscate and cover up that the ‘terror’ attacks are ‘fake.’ So double agent sounds nice, it is hard to follow, confusing, and does not detract from the imposed template presented to the public that terror attacks are done by Muslims. Probably nobody told the media to do or publish anything, they all understand the scene and do it spontaneously, they function smoothly in that way. They know who the bad guys are supposed to be, and how to spin the stories.

Posted by: Noirette | May 10 2012 19:06 utc | 34

I dunno maybe I’m being denser than usual, and despite wenis’ assertions to the contrary this stuff does matter. Big lies are often laid upon a foundation of many little lies. The little lies create the artificial continuum and the big lie planted right in that spreads outside its place in space and time to inhabit mass consciousness. We need to examine every little lie we can. Why?
Setting aside the ‘know your enemy’ stuff, now and again when the liars get caught out on a ‘little lie’ it undermines their false reality – enlightens lots of humans and can trigger a big reaction against the liars.
But I go back to my dense and lumbering consideration of this particular situation.
To me the bloke is a double agent and he was infiltrated into the Yemen opposition with Saudi help.
The Saudis who despite what amerikans are told to believe don’t subscribe to the entire imperial regime that puts amerika at the top and Arabs way down the pecking order.
Maybe the King and his close relatives go for that, but yer average Saudi official (well the few I’ve met) are like most officials outside amerika who are forced to go into a package sold to them as the lesser of two evils – resistance & therefore chaos – or reluctant subservience to keep the peace a little longer. They’re nationalistic and mistrusting of amerikan motives.
The Saudis probably used contacts to put the guy in Yemen in the belief he would report on opposition activity aka intelligence gathering.
In general most Saudis prefer the ME to be quiet with their brothers in the Yemen not getting shot & blown up all the time.
However unbeknownst to the blokes working with the spy, & maybe but only maybe, known to a prince or two in charge of Saudi intelligence, this bloke wasn’t just a Saudi spy, he is an amerikan agent provocateur who instigated the operation to manufacture this ‘bomb’. Prolly he sourced the materials and maybe the recipe as well.
As soon as the thing was made the agent grabbed it so Oblamblam could scare the voters back in amerika, & took off with it alerting the alleged bomb-maker who went into hiding.
The bomb was delivered straight to the seppos back at langley or wherever those scum sucking low life spooks are currently hanging out. In one foul swoop seppos thinking the whole terror thing is getting a bit old are ‘straightened out’ and the crims running the scammer scam have a protection against other seppos whining about intrusions on privacy or their penis’ being touched by minimum wage ‘security guards’.
The reason amerika’s media were so quick to retract the statement about him being a double agent, wasn’t that it would alert the Saudi intelligence officials – too late they already discovered that a while back altho maybe they had been semi-placated about being tricked into yet another amerikan lie about Arab=terrorist.
It is one thing to be tricked by pretend friends n allies then apologised to, if the deceit is kept reasonably confidential.
Quite another to have amerikan abuse of their credulity trumpeted around the world in gloating headlines.
Hence the quick retraction.
To me that seems to be an explanation that reasonably fits the facts.

Posted by: Debs is dead | May 10 2012 23:20 utc | 35

“Why is the U.S. media using this nonsense “double agent”? Who told them to do so and why?”
They have done this in the relatively recent past, but I cannot which individual was the subject.
what I do recall, someone calling himself John Loftus was bleating something about ‘double agents’ a few years back

Posted by: Marmite | May 11 2012 4:55 utc | 36

so when I see the media using the phrase I usually presume that there’ s something else happening which some group, some ‘they’, want to distract people from noticing.

Posted by: Marmite | May 11 2012 4:57 utc | 37

re Loftus: “Haroon Ashid Aswat is an MI6 double agent – YouTube”
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/09/moslems-and-nazis-allied-to-robber.html
“John Loftus has told us about Haroon Rashid Aswat and the London Tube Bombings.
In the first two weeks after the 7 July 2005 London bombings, the UK Police told newspapers that Aswat made some 20 mobile phone calls to two of the suspected bombers, Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer, one just hours before the blasts. (“Top al-Qaeda Briton called Tube bombers before attack”.)
On 20 July 2005, Aswat was arrested in Zambia. Aswat arrived in the UK but the UK police said they were not interested in interviewing Aswat in connection with the London Bombings.
Aswat was sent to the USA. (“UK terror suspects lose extradition battle”.) ”

Posted by: Marmite | May 11 2012 5:09 utc | 38