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April 5, 2012
The NYT – A U.S. Government Propaganda Outlet

U.S. Sees Iran in Bids to Stir Unrest in Afghanistan

… according to American officials. … American officials have closely studied the episodes … according to interviews with more than a dozen government officials … One United States government official described … American officials say … Afghan and American officials said … but American officials see a pattern … American officials say … one United States official said. Intelligence analysts emphasize … prompted American and other intelligence agencies to renew … American officials say … according to American officials … One American intelligence analyst noted …

There is not a word in the piece on why the U.S. government may have an interest in badmouthing Iran or on how these allegations fit the facts. Obviously the piece was simply dictated by officials and written down by some lobotomized robots.

How those writers are still able to look into a mirror and to call themselves "journalists" is beyond me.

Comments

Maybe because the only mirrors they’re looking into are the ones covered with Bolivian Marching powder?

Posted by: DaveS | Apr 5 2012 16:23 utc | 1

Thom Shanker and Eric Schmitt reported from Washington, and Alissa J. Rubin from Kabul, Afghanistan.
They might be reporting, but they are definitely not journalists. You are absolutely right, NYT is an outlet for Pentagon psy-ops.

Posted by: Alexander | Apr 5 2012 16:32 utc | 2

Good job, b! I love reading about what a joke the State-run NYT is:)

Posted by: relament | Apr 5 2012 17:04 utc | 3

“BOYCOTT AL-JAZEERA”
This is the new Journalism of post 9/11. Actually journalism died in 9/11 and was replaced by “reporters”, those who have no journalism background, but look good and sound good on TV, the new standard for american media.
Al-Jazeera which started out as the hope of the Arab world caught the disease too.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/blogs/sandbox/surprise-video-changes-syria-timeline
I have taken all my links to Al Jazeera and now follow http://english.al-akhbar.com/, hopefully these guys stay on the right track.

Posted by: ana souri | Apr 5 2012 17:47 utc | 4

Glenn Greenwald today has also been properly scathing on this New York Times “reporting”: State-dominated media and Iran.

Posted by: lysias | Apr 5 2012 17:59 utc | 5

I have taken all my links to Al Jazeera and now follow http://english.al-akhbar.com/, hopefully these guys stay on the right track.

That is the home of the anti Zionist, Zionist the Angry Arab!

Posted by: hans | Apr 5 2012 20:14 utc | 6

That is the home of the anti Zionist, Zionist the Angry Arab!

Difficult to interpret. True that al-Akhbar and the Angry Arab are anti-Zionist. So what? It’s quite normal.

Posted by: alexno | Apr 5 2012 20:37 utc | 7

In the NYT it is normal to find the views of the state, filtered through the vision of New York Jews.
Why should we expect anything else? Anything else would go badly with the readers.

Posted by: alexno | Apr 5 2012 20:52 utc | 8

what a bunch of crap

In offering an overall view of the threat from Tehran, Gen. John R. Allen, the senior allied commander in Afghanistan, told Congress in recent public testimony that Iran continued to “fuel the flames of violence” by supporting the Afghan insurgency. “Our sense is that Iran could do more if they chose to,” General Allen said. “But they have not, and we watch the activity and the relationships very closely.”

here’s the report of Gen. John R. Allen reporting to congress, nothing about this iran allegation. nothing. notice the clipped quote. what exactly did he say i wonder.

Posted by: annie | Apr 5 2012 21:16 utc | 9

ok, i have found the remarks of allen before congress, and he says no such thing, in fact when pressed he indicates the opposite.

Posted by: annie | Apr 5 2012 22:05 utc | 10

“This is the new Journalism of post 9/11. Actually journalism died in 9/11 and was replaced by “reporters”, those who have no journalism background, but look good and sound good on TV, the new standard for american media…”
The truth is that this sort of journalism has been standard for a very long time, not only in the USA but in Britain too. The Cold War was “reported” this way, so that it became common knowledge that the Soviet Union was constantly planning to push a thousand tank divisions into western Europe; the “domino theory” depended on the belief that China was ready to pounce on its neighbours, despite the evidence suggesting that nothing was further from the CCP’s mind than foreign adventures.
What has changed is that the socialist press has disappeared completely and social democrats have become more imperialist than the imperialists. On the other hand there is, for the moment, the internet which gives us unprecedented access to news and a variety of opinion.
What has changed is that in 1964, for example, while the media was just as bad (IF Stone being almost the only honest reporter in the USA) in Congress and Parliaments across Europe there were plenty of communists and real socialists, nationalists and, in America’s case, old fashioned democrats like Wayne Morse and Fulbright who had more dignity than to eat the bullshit governments served up to them. Another thing that has changed is that the political parties have become entirely undemocratic, and totally centralised so that local left wing bases are no longer tolerated.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2012 22:13 utc | 11

bevin, ditto

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 5 2012 22:15 utc | 12

annie | Apr 5, 2012 6:05:03 PM | 10
Your link is broken unfortunately 🙁
Can you repost it ?
And ditto on what Bevin notes…
The NYT and other US news outlets are only interesting for their cooking recipes pages.

Posted by: Philippe | Apr 5 2012 23:14 utc | 13

The NYT serves as a propaganda arm of the Pentagon. So of course it’ll do its part to help the war hawks there, as well as the ones in the White House, come up with various sorts of excuses, utterly bogus and outright ridiculous though they are, to keep the war going in Afghanistan. It happened with our war in Iraq, it has and will continue to happen with our war in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Cynthia | Apr 5 2012 23:30 utc | 14

I think the NYT is a propaganda arm of a foreign government. The Times has to rearrange the words of the military to fit said government’s political agenda.
James Risen has a peice in the Sunday NYT, front page, undermining the US Intelligence Communities report that Iran is not working on a nuclear weapons program, by correlating it with Cheney’s cherry picking of IC Iraq data. First, Risen blames the CIAfor failing to see Iraq didn’t have weapons of mass destruction, when it was Cheney and his newly formed intelligence office (can’t remember the name) that stovepiped the intelligence reports by sidelining information that didn’t support the Vulcans’ foaming-at-the-mouth desire to invade Iraq and opening the flue for misinformation (like Curveball) to reach the eyes of the barely sentient, dry-drunk President. Second, he insinuates the same process is going on today, but in this case to stop war: the IC is feeding Obama only information he WANTS to see.

Posted by: Optimax | Apr 6 2012 1:45 utc | 15

ALLEN: We’re seeking to understand exactly what Iran is doing in Afghanistan. But we also understand that Iran and Afghanistan have their own bilateral relationship. And that’s a — an ancient and a, in many respects, productive relationship for Afghanistan.
So I — I will not take issue with the fact that the Afghan government has a relationship with Iran. My issue is primarily in the area of security and what we understand to be Iranian assistance to certain elements of the Taliban.
It has not been dramatic. It has not been pervasive. But we seek to understand it, and we have interdicted that assistance on a number of occasions. And so we’ll continue to watch it very closely. We’ll see if it is modulated, if it is increased or if it becomes more pervasive, then we’ll have to take actions as necessary within Afghanistan to continue to check that process.

FRANKS: Dr. Miller, did you want to weigh in on that?
JAMES MILLER: If I could just add very briefly, as you know, sir, the Iranian government has also provided not only rhetorical but material support to the Afghan government.
And so what we see is a — is, in many instances, a positive influence, but then, just as General Allen has talked about, at the same time, in another part of the country, we’ve seen Iranian support for the insurgency.
So what we’d obviously like to do is to encourage continued support for the government in Kabul and to, through various means, including the interdiction that General Allen talked about, reduce to a minimum, attempt to eliminate any incentives for support to the insurgency.
FRANKS: I guess it just occurs to me, given, you know, Iran’s history of making IEDs to blow up our troops in Iraq shouldn’t engender a great deal of trust on our part to the — you know, the potential of using the longstanding relationship between Afghanistan and Iran to our benefit.
I’m not sure that there’s a real basis for that. But, I mean, I defer in this case to the people on the ground. I’m just suggesting that there seems to be a general pattern here, and I’m just wondering what the drawdown and the date certain has done to the overall — at least the psychological array of our enemies’ attitude toward continuing to resist the efforts of freedom there in Afghanistan.
And I’ll — General, if you have any thoughts — any other thoughts?
ALLEN: I was just going to say that we have not seen the Iranian signature weapons in Afghanistan that we saw frequently in southern Iraq. And that would be a very quick indicator to us that things have changed dramatically.
FRANKS: Right. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, thank you. We’ve got two committees going on at the same time, so I have to sprint to the other one, so thank you very much.

MARCH 20, 2012

Posted by: annie | Apr 6 2012 1:53 utc | 17

i should clarify, i didn’t read the “fuel the flames of violence” comment. perhaps i missed it. the most interesting part was the dialogue about china. maybe the nyt should think about cluing the american public about that.

Posted by: annie | Apr 6 2012 1:59 utc | 18

The truth is, since late 90s when printed news were bought by big corporations, cost effectiveness became mantra. Investigative journalism is expensive and therefore was eliminated.
http://www.ajr.org/article.asp?id=4904
A group of academics from Canada studied the percentage of investigative items in the news between the early 90s and late 90s. Percentage dropped from 30% to nearly 3 % over less than 10 yrs. I have to find the reference.
Investigative journalism was replaced by reports reproducing nearly verbatim official sources and objectivity based on facts is replaced by objectivity based on Balance.
A head of a PR and ad company told me once that 40% of the industry contracts are with governments.

Posted by: Sophia | Apr 6 2012 2:18 utc | 19

i read david halberstam’s the powers that be (1979 edition) maybe six or eight or ten times over a period of 20 years…
a couple things became very clear…
first, the new york times was a jewish newspaper, and very conscious of its jewishness, a particular kind of jewishness, though… respectable german jewishness, not bomb-throwing eastern european jewishness.
all this translated into a concern for respectability… “dont make waves, dont do anything that ‘s gonna call attention to our jewishness, dont do anything that reflects badly on jews.”
by the time halberstam (who was jewish, and had worked for the new york times) wrote the book, it had become clear that the new york times was the agenda-setter for the big american media… for instance, those poor folks at the washington post were greatly relieved when the times came aboard for the watergate story… it gave a large amount of respectability to the post’s stories about watergate, and took some of the heat off the post.
the same with televion… the company profiled by halberstam was CBS and bill paley, a russian jew (who was therefore not quite respectable in “our crowd” circles, and, according to halberstam, paley was more concerned with cultivating old money WASP society people (thus achieving a sort of second-hand respectability) than he was at broadcasting real news.
when CBS went out on a limb, about vietnam or watergate or whatever, it usually got its cues from the new york times.
i guess a big change happened at the new york times when it bacame apparent that israel’s and america’s interests were diverging… the times sides with israel, and the “news” they publish becomes part of the neocon PR apparatus.
the book was revised, apparently, and a new edition was published in 2000… i havent read it, and i probably wont be able to.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 6 2012 3:09 utc | 20

i guess i should say that i have no great faith in halberstam’s credibility when it comes to big things… he gets to you. leaves you with an inescapable impression, just fromt he sheer volume of his work… but his work doesnt include everything that should be included.
for instance, he’s gone into excruciating detail about some of kennedy’s actions, but i cant remember him saying anything at all about kennedy’s fuck-hollering contests with ben gurion about israel’s nuke weapons program.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 6 2012 3:32 utc | 21

this girl keeps pestering me… i dont know what she has to do with the new york times or anything else, but she pesters me, so i’ll purge her.
we went together for maybe five months in the winter/spring of 76, and the only time she ever came in the missionary position was new year’s eve… i suspected at the time that she was fantasizing about her ex-husband, who was long gone, who she apparently still loved, but it didnt really matter and i didnt really care, anyhow.
she was jewish, i dont know when i found that out, or why, and she’d been to israel to work on a kibbutz, but it didnt seem that she’d had a good time… but it didnt matter, i didnt care, and if i questioned her about the “why” of any of it, i was just making polite conversation, and that particular conversation ended more-or-less before it got started, because she didnt seem to want to talk about it.
so we get up that morning, january 1st, 1976, the first day of the american bicentennial year, and a bald eagle is floating over the trailer.
how fucking corny can you get?
a few months later, i went back to work, never saw her again, but, after a few weeks, i got a nice letter, saying i was a good man but unsuitable.
by that time i was seriously hung up on my new neighbor girl.
maybe the point of this story is this: i would really like to find some of the jewish people i knew in the old days, people who became close at a time when jewishness was not a factor, at least to me, in anything.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 6 2012 5:52 utc | 22

Actually it is worse than this. If you read the print version of the paper you’d see that this article accusing Iran of aiding terrorists in Afghanistan was placed right next to another article covering a bombing in Afghanistan which had a photo of injured Americans. The implied message of responsibility was clear.

Posted by: Cyrus | Apr 6 2012 12:51 utc | 23

That’s delivering a message without aCtually sayIng it. The PentAgon guys are sneaky bastards.

Posted by: Alexander | Apr 6 2012 13:14 utc | 24