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April 2, 2012
How Does Sat Com Help To “Evade Attacks”?

One more thought on yesterday's news of material U.S. support for the mercenaries in Syria.

[Mrs. Clinton] also confirmed for the first time that the United States was providing satellite communications equipment to help those inside Syria “organize, evade attacks by the regime,” and stay in contact with the outside world. And according to the Syrian National Council, the American assistance will include night-vision goggles.

“We are discussing with our international partners how best to expand this support,” Mrs. Clinton said.

How does satellite communication equipment help to "evade attacks"? It can only do so when someone on the other end of the phone call tells that an attack is coming. How would that person on the other side know that? May that be by looking at a screen with a live picture transmitted from a drone or a satellite?

This "to evade attacks" remark is an indication that U.S. special forces will now direct the rebels. They will be able to listen to all the rebel communication, they will know where exactly those rebels are and they will be able to direct them around government roadblocks and towards their targets.

The Syrian military will probably need to ask for some additional equipment from Moscow to counter the satellite phone connections. Information from Iran on how to best counter those drones will also be welcome.

Comments

Ms.Clinton,the power mad harpy from hell,might be the most banal miseducated twit in our government,and she has a lot of competition.
Does anyone believe that the fruits of hate death and war will bring peace,as these absolute zeroes do?Are they all eating poison apples or something?I can’t fathom any logic,reason or end result from all this intervention other than more hate and distrust by the world’s people against our naked Zionist partisanship exhibited by the poison ivy league cretins from Hades.

Posted by: dahoit | Apr 2 2012 14:00 utc | 1

The NATO nations involved care nothing for peace with Syria, its all about regional dominance. We’ll see what counter moves come to light.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/gulf_states_will_pay_syrian_rebels_defectors_20120401/

Posted by: ben | Apr 2 2012 14:26 utc | 2

It is pretty obvious that special forces from some countries have been involved in helping the rebels for some time. Probably Qatari (seasoned from their Libyan experience), possibly Turkish. In any such situation, US (and other Western) special forces wouldn’t be far behind.
The whole rebel operation would have folded quite early but for the special forces assistance.

Posted by: FB Ali | Apr 2 2012 14:51 utc | 3

I don’t think the West is only just now “directing” the rebels. I think we can assume the West has been directing the rebels from the very beginning.
Plus, we know the rebels already have satellite communications systems, per Thierry Meyssan and others. T
This whole drama is meant to legitimize what has already happened, it’s not a leak about the future. They are purposely ratcheting up the excuses, as they did in Libya, etc. Of course they needed to come in with shock and awe tactics and they immediately armed and directed the rebels. They wanted to succeed at their coup right away but they couldn’t justify this diplomatically so they simply lied and pretended their actions were back where the rhetoric was–only vocal support for the rebels.
I have no doubt real weapons are also streaming into the rebels and has been for some time. Again, we have video confirmation of this and many reports. Plus, how can an organic rebellion kill thousands of police and army without outside support? These people dropped protest signs and picked up advanced Western weaponry that just happened to be sitting in Syria? Bullshit.
Plus, there have been reports of French troops having been captured in Syria, etc.
Lastly, notice the hypocrisy. The U.S. is moving to criminalize any contact with groups it alleges are terrorists, etc., like Hizbullah. If an American simply sent money to Hizbullah to give to their orphanages one would find himself locked up for a long time for supporting terrorism. But the U.S. gives straight up dual use items, like satellite phones, and it’s supposed to be okay. Just try sending Hizbullah these same items and see how the U.S. classifies them.

Posted by: Walter Wit Man | Apr 2 2012 16:01 utc | 4

Satellite phones can be easily intercepted. Echelon’s system specifically intercepts satiellite communications globally. Then there is this:

German academics said they had cracked two encryption systems used to protect satellite phone signals and that anyone with cheap computer equipment and radio could eavesdrop on calls over an entire continent. Hundreds of thousands of satellite phone users are thought to be affected.
The encryption algorithms are known as GMR-1 and GMR-2, and are standards used across satellite phone operators. Their technology is widely used in the Middle East and Africa, including in some military applications.

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/9058529/Satellite-phone-encryption-cracked.html
Also on the topic of Special Forces assistance its worth to note again about the rumoured French military personel captured. Indeed Sarkozy has seemed alot quieter on the Syrian front recently. Finally of course all this doesn’t mean NATO still think the rebels can win… it just means they want to weaken Syria as much as possible. A weak Syria is almost as valuable as a regime changed Syria.

Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Apr 2 2012 16:18 utc | 5

Walter Wit Man @4
What makes you think these satellite phones and night-vision goggles won’t end up with Hezbollah? The Syrian security forces have most likely heavily penetrated the FSA and SNC so examples of these if they are current technology are probably on their way to China already as China could do with a refresh about now

Posted by: blowback | Apr 2 2012 16:45 utc | 6

Walter Wit Man @ 4

This whole drama is meant to legitimize what has already happened, it’s not a leak about the future.

Lastly, notice the hypocrisy. The U.S. is moving to criminalize any contact with groups it alleges are terrorists, etc., like Hizbullah. If an American simply sent money to Hizbullah to give to their orphanages one would find himself locked up for a long time for supporting terrorism.

I think you are spot on, they have to push forward to cover up their tracks from early illegitimate influence in the Syrian “uprising”.

Posted by: Alexander | Apr 2 2012 17:15 utc | 7

Yes indeed blowback. The weapons/material could end up in Syrian gov. hands. The Syrian gov. already captured a number of Western weapons from the rebels.
But I’m guessing the rebels are Western backed and directed and therefore I doubt there is substantial infiltration of the FSA. This is one of the benefits the U.S. provides to its stooges–protection and superior communications and propaganda, etc. Maybe the Syrian government will have learned lessons from Libya, etc., and may have more manpower, indeed it looks like it does, so maybe they do have infiltratators.
But I see the noose getting tighter. Syria is proving that it will not go quietly though, so Turkey and NATO will have to come in with the big guns.

Posted by: Walter Wit Man | Apr 2 2012 17:17 utc | 8

@4 “find himself locked up for a long time for supporting terrorism.”
Along this line, but more ludicrous than tragic, is this Danish guy who suffered considerable financial loss importing cigars from Cuba to Denmark. It was legal and above board and all that, the shipment was not to go through the US or use US transport – HOWEVER, the dude used american $ to pay for the shipment and the monies (137,000 DKr) were somehow confistigated by US authorities

Posted by: Chuck Cliff | Apr 2 2012 20:12 utc | 9

Chuck Cliff @9
It just got a lot easier for the Americans to do that kind of thing.

The US will have full details of all British visitors to Cuba, including business travellers, which could potentially be used to identify people suspected of breaking America’s draconian sanctions against the Castro regime.

I don’t know if this applies to other European countries yet so maybe it is just the UK because Cameron has his nose so far up Washington’s arse.

Posted by: blowback | Apr 2 2012 21:59 utc | 10

Glenn Greenwald wrote last Wednesday about the United States’ dual system of justice, in this as it’s applied to those giving support to “terrorist organizations.” When approved Powers That Be do so, to the MEK in this instance, there is not even a whispher about investigations, indictments, much less actual prosecutions.
However, what I think the US has a triple layered system of, ahem, justice: One for the elites and Big Money, Big Bankster, Big Corporations, Big Enough Pols; a second for the rest of us, the 99 Percenters; and third, yet another for Muslims caught up in stings, enticement, and simple charity or transfers of funds to needy friends, family.
Disgusting. And all being cemented in place by the Peace Prize President, the former adjunct Constitutional law professor.
The rule of law does not apply to the rulers.

Posted by: jawbone | Apr 2 2012 23:09 utc | 11

Happened again: I hit Preview, see something to change, hit Edit, screen flashes and comment is posted — and cannot be edited.
I meant to change the first line: Greenwald posted a guest op-ed about US elites getting away with openly supporting MEK.
Is anyone else finding preview/edit a problem? Is there a work around, a fix? Thnx for any response.

Posted by: jawbone | Apr 2 2012 23:12 utc | 12

I agree with WWM @4
If they are preparing for a war of attrition they may be at the loosing end because they will unify and strenghten the axis of resistance. Syria will get a lot of support and the military on the ground will learn and adapt.
Israel may loose from this scheme as the resistance network will get practical updates on US miliatry equipment in warfare. This is exactly what heppened in Afghanistan. Only people to be happy will be the weapon industry.
It is not exaggerated to think that the West is preparing for an Afghanistan scenario in the middle east with help fron Gulf.

Posted by: Sophia | Apr 2 2012 23:26 utc | 13

Clinton ‘said nothing new’ according to one SNC member sitting in on the ministerial meeting.
http://friday-lunch-club.blogspot.ca/2012/04/snc-clinton-is-only-person-who-said.html

Posted by: Sophia | Apr 2 2012 23:46 utc | 14

so examples of these if they are current technology are probably on their way to China already as China could do with a refresh about now
Posted by: blowback | Apr 2, 2012 12:45:22 PM | 6
Most of the high tech China has already bought at high prices from US ‘ally’ Israel- who stole it or spied it off of America. The Chinese are being refreshed regularly in such manner, not to worry.

Posted by: kylee | Apr 3 2012 11:31 utc | 15

Still Al Jazeera are trying to characterize Assad as detatched from reality in not accepting that he is a evil dictator killing innocent civilians that has done nothing more than protest a little. No mention of rebel IEDs, weapons and foreign interference. At least BBC are only biased towards the rebels, not completely falsifying reality, they at least mention that Assad has accepted Annans peace plan, and the rebel groups have not.
Point here is the rebels don’t want the violence to stop, they’d rather Assad leave – and to hell with the civilians if they have to die in the process.

Posted by: Alexander | Apr 3 2012 13:29 utc | 16

But what of the results?
Lybia as the ‘closest’ example to Syria, is in utter chaos.
All deals, concerning energy, water, telecoms, transport (road and rail) and more, proceeded *somewhat* smoothly under Khadafi. Certainly he always paid on the nail.
Since his regime was x-ed, all (rather, many ? not sure, of course) ongoing projects have been halted and many in the W have not been paid, after considerable effort, investment, planning. CH had the most conflictual relations with Lybia of any country in the world, went to total embargoes, travel bans, interpol notices, money seizing, and almost to the cutting off of all diplomatic relations and declaration of war, cold war, natch – a huge, significant step – … and here we have bankrupt and unemployed because there is no authority to apply to, nobody to treat with in Lybia, nothing to be done.
Perhaps many wanted more (c’est le cas de le dire, as the F say) but, then what, how to obtain it?
Is all this to be explained simply by the blood thirst of war-mongers, arm dealers, media types who feed off carnage? NATO pretending it is crucial? Long term plans, where cutting countries up into pieces afford more clout for outsiders? (Lybia will split up into its ‘original’ parts eventually, and these entities will be antagonistic to each other.) Creating badlands where energy consumption sinks? An oppo for pols to appear strong, reactive? A death wish, which includes sadism towards others and self-harm? Simple glee at bombing, murdering, accepted by everyone?
Sarkozy welcomed K in Paris, tent and all, touted his wife, who made friends with K…and she had many positive effects. Then, poof! NATO can go on a rampage…
note, this is only about W self-interest, not about the Lybian ppl and what is best for them.

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 3 2012 16:35 utc | 17

The supply of satellite phones to the opposition was already known some time ago. They were provided by the Haim Saban center and its Syrian associates. If the opposition didn’t have that, they wouldn’t have been able to give us the wonderful fake and half-fake videos we have been watching. Do you think that messages and videos could simply pass through the Syrian mobile tel system, or through the Syrian internet, without being blocked?
What we have here is an admission by Clinton that the US govt was involved.
Night-vision goggles too, I seem to remember.
I don’t think it is particularly evidence of special forces involvement.

Posted by: alexno | Apr 3 2012 18:46 utc | 18

alexno @18…

“…haim saban center…”

the “i’m a one-issue guy, and that issue is israel” guy.
well, israel already gets a third of its water fron land it stole from syia in the golan heights…
that’s not enough water, the israelis need more, and there’s that euphrates river water in that big reservoir 400 miles northeast of israel…
if they think they can secure water pipelines after syrian regimine change, maybe they can also secure oil pipelines coming from the persian gulf.
too damn bad they can even secure yossi mainam’s gas pipeline coming from egypt.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 3 2012 19:01 utc | 19

Hannah K. O’Luthon, at post 78 here, draws some interesting conclusions from central asia newswire, atticles she qkuotes….

“Meanwhile, the following three links (all from the same somewhat suspect source, Central Asia Newswire) would seem to indicate that geopolitical seismic shifts in Central Asia are shaking out the last residues of the Neocon Grand Design for the region.”

i guess time will tell how “suspect” that new source is, but we should remember that yossi maiman supposedly had turkemistan gas and oil sewed up in the runup to the 9/11 operation… but his efforts, including his lobbying of the US congress for support of a pipeline across the caspian, sort of fizzled out, as did enron’s efforts to build a gas pipeline from turkmenistan through afghanistan to ernon’s gas-fired plant at dabhol, india
best laid plans of mice, men and neocons…

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 3 2012 19:17 utc | 20

syria is short of water, too… but that’s no problem for israelis, judging from israel’s treatment of palestinian access to water.
the real prize, though, will be the oil coming from the gulf…
but you really got to wonder how the israelis are gonna secure another thousand miles of pipeline when they cant even secure yossi’s pipeline from egypt.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 3 2012 19:47 utc | 21

Maybe I didn’t express myself clearly. For years the only internet server in Syria was located in the president’s palace. Syriatel is owned by a relative, I think one of the Makhloufs. Even if things have broadened out recently, there’ll still be control. Yet internet access from Syria has not been shut down. That means the official circuit is controlled, and they don’t feel the need to shut down.
All those tweets and videos from Syria must be bypassing the Syrian circuits, and that means satellite phones.

Posted by: alexno | Apr 3 2012 19:57 utc | 22

alexno, if you’re talking to me at your post 22…
yeah, the satphone lashup and haim saban’s involvementin it makes sense to me…. your logic about rebels using satphones to bypass the srian commenercial internet makes sense.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 3 2012 20:08 utc | 23

Support for the idea that the Syrian rebellion is finished:
http://angryarab.blogspot.fr/2012/03/is-syrian-uprising-finished.html

Posted by: alexno | Apr 3 2012 20:32 utc | 24

Yea, on western TV, any Syrian government crackdown is sensationalized, a clear indication the end of the rope for rebels is near.

Posted by: Alexander | Apr 3 2012 20:54 utc | 25

alexno says @24…

“Support for the idea that the Syrian rebellion is finished”

that’s why i keep harping on “motive”… the motives are not gonna go away…
israel still needs water, israel still needs energy, and the push is not gonna go away just because of a little setback.
the project will not be finished until jews living in palestine accept the idea that they live in a desert.
they’re not gonna be able to turn the desert into berlin, or seattle or stockholm, because there simply isnt enough water and energy to do it.
given the lunacy prevelant in zionist thinking, doesnt look like the project will end until the israeli american empire capitulates.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 3 2012 20:57 utc | 26

when i was a kid, the lights would go off for a week at a time because of heavy snow breaking treees and powerlines.
it was an adventure, we all did what we had to do, we cooperated with each other.
maybe that psychology cant be scaled up, but, judging from the way massive numbers of people rally and cooperate to support wars, maybe it can…
but it’s too late for israeli america… we lost our chance when the neocons decided the best approach was to do 9/11, and deny deny deny the real problems that face us.
now they cant tell the truth, because they’d incriminate themselves, and they’re not about to do that.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 3 2012 21:17 utc | 27

Noirette #17 – your questions are crucial; my idea, in general, is that all that’s happening (and that seems, and is, so “politically irrational”) is the unprogrammed (but not entirely undesirable) outcome of the sum of near-sighted forces at play

Posted by: claudio | Apr 4 2012 0:55 utc | 28

claudio @28

“…short-sighted…”

desperation leads to a “do something even if it’s wrong” philosophy, and the israel project, from the start, seems to smack of desperation.
you’ve got an advantage if you know something’s gonna happen because you’re gonna make it happen, you’re ready for the consequences, and you can steer those consequences while other people are still shocked into immobility.
i guess that tactic only works for so long, and in that sense, it is “short-sighted”, because once people expect the worst from you, they’re not so surprised any more.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 1:33 utc | 29

on september 10, 2001, these were the expectations of the US Army School of Advanced Military Studies…

Of the MOSSAD, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS officers say: “Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.”

1-10 of 43,700 bing results for: SAMS mossad wildcard ruthless

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 1:48 utc | 30

lemnitzer, in 1962, was apparenly ready to do false flag attacks on america to provide a pretext to invade cuba.
oh, yeah, cuba had us on the ropes, all right… it was a desperate situation, for sure.
sooner or later, you got to discard desperation and go for mental illness.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 3:06 utc | 31

without reading the thread (so excuse me if someone has made this pt) this reminds of the US spy picked up in cuba. he was setting up cell phone communication that operated thru a satellite that bypassed the gov. there was a conference How to Ignite, or Quash, a Revolution in 140 Characters or Less – Future Tense Event
that included video: New Technologies in Spreading Democracy where i heard about nyt article US underwrites internet detour around censors . it reminded me of the spy in cuba.
anyway, without watching the video again, and i think it was this video, he talks about how the communication (which i assume can also include video recording on a cell phone) to go immediately directly to the host via the satellite. which means these clips can be immediately accessed and manipulated and created in other countries.
so the satellites are probably used for this stuff.

The State Department, for example, is financing the creation of stealth wireless networks that would enable activists to communicate outside the reach of governments in countries like Iran, Syria and Libya, according to participants in the projects.

The new initiatives have found a champion in Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, whose department is spearheading the American effort. “We see more and more people around the globe using the Internet, mobile phones and other technologies to make their voices heard as they protest against injustice and seek to realize their aspirations,” Mrs. Clinton said in an e-mail response to a query on the topic. “There is a historic opportunity to effect positive change, change America supports,” she said. “So we’re focused on helping them do that, on helping them talk to each other, to their communities, to their governments and to the world.”

Posted by: annie | Apr 4 2012 3:15 utc | 32

obviously i should have read the thread first. oh well.

Posted by: annie | Apr 4 2012 3:22 utc | 33

just seems to me that no amount of sophisticated comm gear is gonna disguise the fact that these people are nuts.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 3:39 utc | 34

rb @29

“…short-sighted…”
desperation leads to a “do something even if it’s wrong” philosophy, and the israel project, from the start, seems to smack of desperation.

that’s obviously not what I meant, but it’s ok, you’re not really engaged in dialogue with anyone, you’re just wading in your fixations
maybe more or less we all do this, but you are an extreme case

Posted by: claudio | Apr 4 2012 6:41 utc | 35

too bad my fixations are backed up by so much evidence.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 7:59 utc | 36

i’ll admit that the beginnings of the israel project didnt stink so much of desperation as stupidity and racism.
lately, though, it’s desperation… what else could account for this “samson option” bullshit?
no wonder, israel was such a bad idea in the first place.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 9:13 utc | 37

The end of the Cold War relative stability, the rise of finance, globalization, US hegemony, left many doors open to all kinds of forces, groups, ppl.
favored private entities – anyone with bucks and influence – that would be Corps, financiers-Banks, Lodges (as a blanket word, incl. criminal groups, Oil cos, etc.), even protest groups (Egypt) and all those who have smarts and go for profits, dominance, all those at control points of any kind, so including force (manipulating the control points), that is, military and para-military.
So, short-sighted (as Claudio said), yes, and pointed to short term gain, in a reactive mode, defending at any cost the xyz cabal. The entities acting in this way are also very vulnerable, as they have no long-term vision, ergo, they become aggressive, are always on alert to ‘react’ on the moment, rapidly, as they have solid competitors and enemies: then, these reactions escalate and provoke counter-reactions.
At heart what we see, in various ways, is an attack on organization in terms of Nation-States, which is based on defined territories and borders and the right to Sovereign State status (still somewhat upheld by say the UN), allowed to make its own decisions and determine its future, and control its trade.
In favor or a new World order, which annihilates territory, and focusses on trade and domination in terms of banking, money circuit, its manipulation and coercion, control of international transport routes (e.g. oil, nat gas, agri, etc.), key industries (fill it in) and rests more on personal power relations, ad hoc legislation, threat and military force.

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 4 2012 16:43 utc | 38

“that’s obviously not what I meant, but it’s ok, you’re not really engaged in dialogue with anyone, you’re just wading in your fixations
maybe more or less we all do this, but you are an extreme case”
can we have a ‘LIKE’-Button plz? 😉

Posted by: Hu Bris | Apr 4 2012 17:48 utc | 39

an ‘edit’ function wouldn’t go amiss either 🙂

Posted by: Hu Bris | Apr 4 2012 17:49 utc | 40

“too bad my fixations are backed up by so much evidence.”
some of us think your ‘evidence’, while seemingly fine on the surface, misses a lot when it comes to some of the subtleties or nuances of the situation as it develops
Most of us have already been through the 9-11/Israel/PNAC thingy already, noted the ‘Israeli’ connections and seen that screaming ‘Israel . . . Israel Isreal’ 24/7 just doesn’t really cut it as a useful analysis
It’s way too lacking in detail and nuance to be useful for anything other than as a means to get yourself singled out as ‘Anti-Semite’.
There are way too many other pieces of ‘evidence’ which call into question your simplistic Black&White portrait of events which you have repeatedly ignored when pointed out to you.
Hence the fact that several people here are looking at you and wondering about your agenda . . .

Posted by: Hu Bris | Apr 4 2012 18:00 utc | 41

Still . . . .
you’ll prolly like this one:
A World Map Without Lebanon
“The statement from the [Lebanese] presidential palace mentioned that during a news conference in Switzerland, Netanyahu said it is not a secret that Israel will attack Lebanon, adding that it will do so with the support of the United States, the West and Arab states from the Gulf. He was also reported to have said that ‘in the new world map there is no state called Lebanon’.”
http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/world-map-without-lebanon-160358527.html

Posted by: hu Bris | Apr 4 2012 18:39 utc | 42

maybe it’s fitting that two nations founded in genocide and ethnic cleanssing find themselves locked together against the world as they destroy themselves.
seems like rough justice to me, but what do i know? …it seems, though, that after 4000 years, jews would know better.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 18:47 utc | 43

so, inspired by the israeli example, america descends into martial law, the better to deal with peak oil and global warming as it continues to defend israel.
nevermind we’re wasting trillions of dollars that would be much better spent dealing with real problems instead of defending whiners, mama’s boys, drama queens and spoiled brats.
nevermind the goodwill we’re wrecking…
nevermind all that: israeli america has defaulted to the basic zionist moral philosophy, might makes right, and we’ve got our nuclear primacy with which we can blast radioactivie monuments to our stupidity.
we got to hope the empire lasts long enought hat the perps die off before they’re hunted down like nazis.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 19:00 utc | 44

“america has defaulted to the basic zionist moral philosophy, might makes right, “
The ‘Israelis’ first thought up the idea of ‘might is right’? . . . . .Really?

Posted by: hu Bris | Apr 4 2012 19:20 utc | 45

might makes right came into being millions of years ago, with aminals that live by the law of the jungle.
are you sugesting that israeili american leaders are animals?

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 19:23 utc | 46

hu bris seems to be advancing the idea that in this day and age, when war can destroy the planet, the zionist “might makes right” philosophy is not obsolete.
besides all that, zionists didnt invent “might makes right”, so they cant be blamed for anything.
this is the kind of thinking that’s got us into this pickle in the first place.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 19:28 utc | 47

i warned you before about confirming hitler’s description of jewish debate tactics.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 19:30 utc | 48

“hu bris seems to be advancing the idea that in this day and age, when war can destroy the planet, the zionist “might makes right” philosophy is not obsolete.
besides all that, zionists didnt invent “might makes right”, so they cant be blamed for anything.”

I did all that?
lil’ ol’ me?

Posted by: hu Bris | Apr 4 2012 21:00 utc | 49

from dune…

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear.

once you get over your fear, maybe you can do something constructive to eliminate its cause.

Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Apr 4 2012 21:11 utc | 50

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/6246.htm
Saudi media is attacking Sergei Lavrov calling him mullah Lavrov.

Posted by: nikon | Apr 5 2012 4:34 utc | 51

You believe, nikon re 51, anything that MEMRI reports!!!?
A link to MEMRI automatically disqualifies the report.

Posted by: alexno | Apr 5 2012 20:23 utc | 52

@ nikon
Saudi media is attacking Sergei Lavrov calling him mullah Lavrov.
LOL. Sour grapes?
That’s pretty good evidence that the Saudis have realised they backed the losers.
Then again, at least they’re saying SOMETHING. Shrillary, Sarko, and the rest of the Coalition of Liars have been pretending that Russia and Russians don’t exist since they (enthusiastically) accepted Kofi’s faux peace plan.
The CoL are like a bunch of shrews … never happy; even when they get what they said they wanted…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 7 2012 16:49 utc | 53

FWIW, Voltairenet is re-publishing daily updates from pro-govt sources inside Syria.
Here’s the report for April 6. There are links on the page to reports on other dates. They contain info we’re unlikely to hear about from Sarko, Shrillary, Cameron, Obama or the right royal dictatorship of Saudi Arabia.
April 2012-04-06, Syrian Crisis Update
(Syrian Center for Documentation)
http://www.voltairenet.org/April-2012-04-06-Syrian-Crisis

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 7 2012 16:55 utc | 54