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March 23, 2012
Open Thread 2012-08
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I made this comment on the TomDispatch article by Hartung in today’s Asia Times on Throwing money at the Pentagon. I think it merits a thought. Posted by: JohnE | Mar 23 2012 19:09 utc | 1 The Martin case raises one truly disturbing question: Is walking while black sufficient to trigger a deadly confrontation? Posted by: Matthew | Mar 23 2012 19:16 utc | 2 “The Martin case raises one truly disturbing question: Is walking while black sufficient to trigger a deadly confrontation?” Posted by: ben | Mar 23 2012 19:34 utc | 3 France is becoming stranger and stranger … Posted by: somebody | Mar 23 2012 21:28 utc | 4 The coup in Mali probably came as a shock to AFRICOM and the US, but it evolves directly out of AFRICOM activities on the continent, the destruction of Libya with NATO, and the train and equip programs that have concentrated on Mali since the beginning of this century. It will be interesting to see if the US cuts off aid or not. The latest I’ve seen is that is being considered.
The rest of the article says pretty much what other accounts are saying. My Iran-Israel rant, now that the Syria-entrance seem to fail, the old war is back on the table of Israel and USA. Posted by: Alexander | Mar 23 2012 22:04 utc | 6 more France … Posted by: somebody | Mar 23 2012 22:04 utc | 7 re: alexander @6 and iran’s “need” for nuke weapons Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 23 2012 22:21 utc | 8 An interview with Morris Berman re: why America’s need for ‘the other’ has caused it to collapse: Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Mar 23 2012 22:34 utc | 9 Should be ‘Opposition Culture’ above…sorry! Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Mar 23 2012 22:36 utc | 10 retreatingbladestall @ 8
Posted by: Alexander | Mar 23 2012 23:44 utc | 11 to Alexander @11… Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 23 2012 23:56 utc | 12 A panel of computer security experts from across the US government told a US Senate committee yesterday that computer networks operated by the US Department of Defense are so thoroughly compromised by spies from other nations that there’s almost no point in trying to keep them out.
The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 23 2012 23:58 utc | 13 @xcroc #5 Posted by: claudio | Mar 24 2012 0:49 utc | 14 is obama punch drunk?…watch and learn Posted by: brian | Mar 24 2012 4:38 utc | 15 more france Posted by: somebody | Mar 24 2012 7:23 utc | 16 Excellent overview of the strategic/political/psychological dynamics of the current Israel/Iran/USA situation by David Habakkuh. Posted by: anna missed | Mar 24 2012 7:46 utc | 17 France is waking up now asking some logical questions Posted by: somebody | Mar 24 2012 8:07 utc | 18 Adieu Sarkozy, adieu lone killer, not connected to known groups … Posted by: somebody | Mar 24 2012 10:24 utc | 19 this from 2007 Posted by: somebody | Mar 24 2012 10:34 utc | 20 somebody @4, 7, 16, 18, 19, 20…
the most logical question is this: if sarkozy is a mossad agent, and everybody and his dog knew the history of this Merah guy, then how come sarkozy didnt bust him before he massacred all those jewish kids? Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 24 2012 13:02 utc | 21 you never know which way this works Posted by: somebody | Mar 24 2012 13:49 utc | 22 somebody says…
yup, and here’s what it would be “at worst”… Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 24 2012 14:03 utc | 23 The Free Syrian Army “expresses annoyance at lack of International arms”.
Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syrian-rebels-running-out-of-ammunition-as-government-presses-offensive/2012/03/22/gIQA05CNUS_story.html Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Mar 24 2012 14:03 utc | 24 Get em, Hank!
He’s a real go getter, that Hank! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 24 2012 16:01 utc | 25 Thanks much Uncle$. Facts laid bare indeed. A lot of good info but this blared into my mind:
puts the culpability a lot closer to home. Posted by: juannie | Mar 24 2012 19:17 utc | 26 Going back to Alexander’s (6) points on Iran. The front page headline on a Peruvian newspaper (La Razón) this morning stated: Posted by: JohnE | Mar 24 2012 19:31 utc | 27 @all – sorry for not posting – caught a bronchitis (I guess from the kids last week) and the (hurtful) coughing plus the wuzzy side effects of the medication make straight thinking/writing impossible. nothing, no act no matter how disgusting, is “wrong” if you can get away with it. Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 24 2012 20:05 utc | 29 Florida’s “stand your ground law” was passed because of some high-profile carjackings in the state where drivers and passengers where killed–a German couple being one such case, if you remember. Before the law passed it was questionable whether it was legal to use deadly force to defend yourself outside your home. The question in the Zimmerman case is did he exceed the authority the law gave him to self-defense. Posted by: Optimax | Mar 24 2012 21:31 utc | 30 The way the law is worded, combined with the sloppy-to-negligent police handling of the case, mean that it will be way too easy for him to present a plausible defense for his actions under the law. Posted by: ralphieboy | Mar 24 2012 21:49 utc | 31 Uncle $cam…..#45….. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Mar 24 2012 22:07 utc | 32 I see that a seventh steam tube at San Onofre has failed in testing. Not a fuckin’ thing about it in the Los Angeles Times today. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Mar 24 2012 22:55 utc | 33 There are some bad things appearing when you do a little search on the San Onofre
Its pretty bad taking a bath in the reactor pool, but having improperly wired batteries, and generators not working, is a potential catastrophe. Posted by: Alexander | Mar 24 2012 23:27 utc | 34 Not to take attention from the failing tubes, Problems with the tubes seem to be a general one, with tube thickness not being dimensioned for corrosion, and definitely not corrosion and a earthquake. Not only at this perticular plant, but as a consequence of the regulations, meaning probably generally everything in the US. Posted by: Alexander | Mar 24 2012 23:43 utc | 35 Come to think of it, there is something very alarming about the level of corrotion uncovered. In the pressurized steam turbine system, there shouldn’t be any corrotion, or at least very little. This could possible be an indication that they are using low quality heavy water, or even low quality fuel rods. Posted by: Alexander | Mar 25 2012 0:18 utc | 36 …when pipes go in less than two years.. not one year, I meant Posted by: Alexander | Mar 25 2012 0:23 utc | 37 Global Post article about survivors of Staff Sgt. Bales’ –and whomever else was involved…– massacre. Wounded survivors are being treated in a US military hospital, and reporters were told they could meet with them. But once they got there, there reporters were allowed to take photos only and not speak to the people.
Posted by: jawbone | Mar 25 2012 1:17 utc | 38 Talking of lies: the lies about Lockerbie, which must have played an important part in softening up “western public opinion” for the NATO takedown of Ghadaffi are finally being cleared up. Posted by: bevin | Mar 25 2012 1:22 utc | 39 As to the Toulouse killings: the fact that the affair could lead to the return of Sarkozy in the election is entirely the fault of the campaign being run by his pretend opponent the pseudo-socialist Hollande who agrees with Sarkozy on almost every important question, including the “necessity” of cutting the living standards and the civil and social rights of the French people. Posted by: bevin | Mar 25 2012 1:31 utc | 40 Cheney should be in prison for his many crimes, and yet some dumbass doctors gave him a heart transplant. Posted by: Susan | Mar 25 2012 2:27 utc | 41 Susan says @41…
no doubt about it… but he’s still a puzzle, mostly because he was mouthing off about peak oil in london in 1999, yet he had signed PNAC’s Statement of Principles in 1997. Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 25 2012 3:56 utc | 42 it’s always seemed to me that cheney might have been set up to take the fall for 9/11, in case things really went haywire early on… crusader bunnypants was way too loopy to have served that purpose, and cheney was touted as the “adult supervision” that would keep bunnypants in line… Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 25 2012 4:24 utc | 43 yeah the French act is beginning to reek Posted by: somebody | Mar 25 2012 9:12 utc | 44 and Forsane Alizza is a media group plus militia realited to this UK/US media creation … Posted by: somebody | Mar 25 2012 11:28 utc | 45 About Bush, and the ICC, it’s not gonna happen, his mind is gone.
Those plans seem to be hampered by some even more bizarre conduct
Really, I’m not making this up. Posted by: Alexander | Mar 25 2012 13:08 utc | 46 And I suspect the truth is not much better. heh.. Thaugh, it would be good to see Bush at the ICC. Posted by: Alexander | Mar 25 2012 13:30 utc | 49 @ 47 b real good to see your around, hope your doing well. When are you coming back to your blog (AC)? Your detective work would do wonders to clear all the smoke surrounding Somalia and other hotspots right about now … 🙂 Posted by: thirsty | Mar 25 2012 14:27 utc | 50 Gotta link to this piece, out of my interest for all things Hezbollah, “Paintballing with Hezbollah” with Andrew Exum (who runs the COIN blog Abu Muqawama) and Beirut based journalist Nicholas Blanford. Read it yourselves and see what you think. Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Mar 25 2012 15:06 utc | 51 from the url posted by Colm O’ Toole @51…
that’s interesting when applied to america… will the returning mercenaries be assigned to their home territories, and, if so, whose side will they fight on, the government’s or their people’s side? Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 25 2012 15:52 utc | 52 Arms in France Posted by: Noirette | Mar 25 2012 16:11 utc | 53 List of Arab towns and villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestinian exodus Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 25 2012 16:15 utc | 54 1. A report from 1999 fixes death by firearms in France (accident / suicide / murder / unclear), hasn’t changed much since. Posted by: Noirette | Mar 25 2012 16:18 utc | 56 Noirette @ 53 Posted by: Alexander | Mar 25 2012 16:30 utc | 57 @50 – thx – all’s well – planning on resuming those pursuits soon – still trying to figure out how to allocate enough time for online activities but will find a way to catch up and start making regular posts there again Posted by: b real | Mar 25 2012 17:29 utc | 58 Indeed, good to hear from you, b real… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 25 2012 17:42 utc | 59 Noirette, thanks for explaining France. Sarkozy’s idea is useless, however not quite off the mark, as these terrorist acts are more like a media campaign, than anything else. Al Jazeera terrorism. If Merah has managed to pass on his videos, they will appear on the web, and keep him posthumously in the news for weeks to come. Posted by: somebody | Mar 25 2012 18:06 utc | 61 Re: My #25 (above) as with others I recently posted
From top to bottom.. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 25 2012 18:23 utc | 62 Iraqi woman severely beaten in Calif. home dies – CBS News Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Mar 25 2012 19:01 utc | 63 the hateful rhetoric of these maggots? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 25 2012 19:18 utc | 64 @claudio #14
And there is another issue raised by Alexandra at Libya 360:
Interesting background info on the Toulouse case: Posted by: absinthe | Mar 25 2012 19:43 utc | 66 yeah, sure absinthe, but the logic of the French first round is that Marine le Pen takes the votes from Sarkozy, and Jean-Luc Mélenchon takes the votes from Hollande. And strange enough after all this Jean-Luc Mélenchon is third. Posted by: somebody | Mar 25 2012 20:16 utc | 67 re Noirette Posted by: alexno | Mar 25 2012 20:34 utc | 68 alexno Posted by: somebody | Mar 25 2012 21:25 utc | 69 oh, I forgot, Posted by: somebody | Mar 25 2012 21:34 utc | 70 re 69 Posted by: alexno | Mar 25 2012 21:34 utc | 71 re 70 Posted by: alexno | Mar 25 2012 22:06 utc | 72 By the way, re 72, the principle of concealment also operates in Islam, called “taqiyya”, but mainly between different sects of Islam. Otherwise the name is part of being Muslim. Posted by: alexno | Mar 25 2012 22:23 utc | 73 Pat Lang has finally found a war that he can fight in his own back yard. Will this be his “Iraq”? Skittles = WMD Posted by: Maracatu | Mar 25 2012 23:44 utc | 74 oh, look alexno, the last time I checked international discourse on multiculturalism, the agreement was that everybody should be free to choose their identity, it should not be something imposed on you. Posted by: somebody | Mar 26 2012 6:20 utc | 75 According to the Quran, muslims are not supposed to change their name. Posted by: Alexander | Mar 26 2012 8:22 utc | 76 France finally found out there is no police in the suburbs … Posted by: somebody | Mar 26 2012 8:30 utc | 77 re 75 Posted by: alexno | Mar 26 2012 8:41 utc | 78 Barack Hussein Obama! Barack Hussein Obama! Barack Hussein Obama! Posted by: ralphieboy | Mar 26 2012 11:12 utc | 79 Uncle $cam @ 62: Posted by: jdmckay | Mar 26 2012 13:26 utc | 82 Latest from penny on Syria: Posted by: ben | Mar 26 2012 15:36 utc | 83 b real, yes, do, please post again. Posted by: Noirette | Mar 26 2012 15:55 utc | 84 Alexno @ 68 is right about the F police: Posted by: Noirette | Mar 26 2012 16:36 utc | 85 Well, the French left will have to think about a security strategy fast or it will be 5 more years of Sarkozy Posted by: somebody | Mar 26 2012 18:44 utc | 86
Posted by: Alexander | Mar 26 2012 19:43 utc | 88 I don’t get this. They are saying the killing of Palestinian children cannot be compared to killing of Jewish children. And that’s supposed to make sense? What kind of reasoning are they applying? What makes Jews more worth than Palestinians? Posted by: Alexander | Mar 26 2012 20:12 utc | 89 OT – Cheney got his heart transplant. Although some are saying he is to old to save, I’m hoping he lives long enough to be indicted for war crimes. Posted by: spinoza | Mar 26 2012 21:06 utc | 90 re 86 Posted by: alexno | Mar 26 2012 21:18 utc | 91 spinoza: Absolutely, he really should.
Posted by: Alexander | Mar 26 2012 21:26 utc | 92 @ alexno 91 Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 26 2012 21:27 utc | 93 re 90 Posted by: alexno | Mar 26 2012 21:31 utc | 94 @ Alexander 92… Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 26 2012 21:33 utc | 95
Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 26 2012 21:43 utc | 96 and how could i forget paul wolfowitz, who’s been agitating for this project since 1992?
Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 26 2012 21:54 utc | 97 re 93 Posted by: alexno | Mar 26 2012 21:56 utc | 98 what caused france to knuckle under to the neocons? Posted by: retreatingbladestall | Mar 26 2012 21:59 utc | 99 re 99, see 98. Posted by: alexno | Mar 26 2012 22:41 utc | 100 |
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