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December 16, 2011
Christopher Hitchens Is Dead
Good riddance.
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Come on b, you could have posted something that matters instead of denigrating the dead… Massacre feared in Kazakhstan Posted by: Uncle | Dec 16 2011 13:30 utc | 1 My sentiments exactly, b. Posted by: china_hand | Dec 16 2011 13:42 utc | 2 his “Trial of Henry Kissinger” is certainly a commendable contribution. Though his embrace of the Iraq War seemed to issue from another sentiment. I suppose Trotsky supporters and radicals are all ultimately violent. Posted by: scottindallas | Dec 16 2011 14:00 utc | 3 ‘Tis said he died of cancer but it was terminal self-absorption that got him in the end. Hitchens believed himself to be the writer who would, one day, make Gore Vidal redundant. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 16 2011 14:11 utc | 4 Truthfully, I don’t think Hitchens was ever anything other than an opportunistic writer who found a niche and exploited it. I don’t think he was a “lefty” or a “rightie,” even though he pretended to be both. I think he could swing whichever way the wind blew if it gave him career security. One thing is for certain…he had an ego, and obviously someone, or many on the left, bruised it, so he found a niche in smacking them around from an ex-leftie turned rightie perspective….but that was just schtick to support his revenue stream. In the end, he was just a whore like all the rest…..turning tricks for crumbs and foolishly feeling special about it. I won’t lose any sleep over his passing anymore than I would lose sleep over some unknown old geezer passing away in a nursing home somewhere, or some murderous president (redundant, I know) being assassinated. Posted by: Morocco Bama | Dec 16 2011 14:15 utc | 5 “b” strikes again. It now appears definite that the Iranians got that drone by spoofing its GPS guidance system, as Richard Silverstein explains at http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/12/16/new-evidence-iran-cracked-communications-system-of-u-s-stealth-drone-and-downed-it/ . This is essentially what “b” speculated a week and a half ago, on Dec. 5. Posted by: lysias | Dec 16 2011 16:05 utc | 6 lysias, CSM‘s article of the interview w/iranian scientist was the most tweeted article yesterday when i visited google news. Posted by: annie | Dec 16 2011 17:46 utc | 7 More whisky for the rest of us… Posted by: Morocco Bama | Dec 16 2011 18:10 utc | 9 As to Hitchens he was part of a generation of ex-imperial youth (dad an RN officer, educated at Public School) who did more damage to socialism than the CIA ever dreamed of doing. What he excelled in was the dirty fighting of sectarian debating, the sub intellectual business of ruining honest debate, shouting down and ridiculing opponents. He was a brawler, at his best when drunk. Posted by: bevin | Dec 16 2011 18:49 utc | 10 This long tweet is my account of my only meeting with Christopher Hitchens. Warning: Not pretty.
bevin, you have made your point well except that there is an archeology to the hitchens of this world. there was the ‘god that failed school’ whose identification with ‘socialism’ was purely cursory, it was about them, not about the people or the larger movement Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 16 2011 19:25 utc | 12 i will never forgive his personal betrayal of the especially vulnerable edward said Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 16 2011 19:34 utc | 13 Hitchens doesn’t even deserve a short 6 word posting.
Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/facebook-riot-inciter-jailed-6276839.html Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Dec 16 2011 20:41 utc | 14 “The evil men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.” copeland Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 16 2011 23:35 utc | 17 I am perhaps at a loss to understand what happened to Hitchens; he seems to have suffered some kind of break with reality. It seemed like a mental breakdown to me. I feel no sympathy for his betrayal; but some sense of loss for him as a person. When a writer goes to pieces, it’s a terrible omen about human frailty. When I was a boy, I came come one day to find my mother weeping; she had just seen Truman Capote on TV on a talk show in such a state of dissipation, that she said we had just lost an artist, one of our great writers. Not to compare Hitchens with Capote; but it sends a shiver down my back to think of collapses of that kind, moral or artistic, where the rational just implodes into irrational. in the early nineties here, the first person who wanted to translate my work had translated tennessee williams but she told such a terrible story about how one night sweet tennessee was in a state, very drunk & he just wanted company, somebody to speak with, to teach but she did not want to see that side of him. i thought this was an act of such infamy that i sd it was not possible for me to work with her. tennessee williams had more loving humanity in his broken body than all the works of a hitchens, trading in on a trot past – there was more complicated love of humanity on williams than could ever exist in hitchen’s generation, taken as they were by a very brutal kind of bitterness that you will more often find in the scribblers that write for murdoch Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 17 2011 0:54 utc | 19 A single checkmark in one box. There are many boxes remaining. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 17 2011 3:19 utc | 21 thank you ‘giap and Copeland. both sentiments powerfully expressed. Copeland, I’m going to repost one of your comments at the little blog I contribute to. Posted by: lizard | Dec 17 2011 4:36 utc | 22 b; Posted by: pirouz_2 (RT) | Dec 17 2011 8:47 utc | 24 I wonder. If we had a seance, ya think we could convince Hitchens to invite Bachman, Perry, Santorum, Gingrich, and Romney to join him for dinner? I mean, hey, if these five do a swan song, millions, perhaps billions, might be saved. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 17 2011 17:05 utc | 25 A conventional, pandering, mainstream, provocateur. Get em all riled up at Slate or The Nation. Whatever. Posted by: Noirette | Dec 17 2011 20:34 utc | 26 Hitchens’ sellout is, was, certainly not unique. Clemons has seemingly gone through the same process, learning that complicity and journalistic cowardice is far more materially rewarding than integrity and truth. One’s career certainly soars in the world of journalism with a willingness to whore one’s self to the brokers of power. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 17 2011 21:02 utc | 27 Go hit the wogs… Posted by: DakotabornKansan | Dec 17 2011 21:12 utc | 28 On Being Spit Upon—Literally—by Christopher Hitchens Posted by: Paul | Dec 17 2011 22:03 utc | 29 So, Hitchens was a transparent panderer, etc. Posted by: Noirette | Dec 17 2011 22:21 utc | 30 Wow. What hatred (with the exception of Copeland – who provides a balanced portrayal of a man). Posted by: Roger | Dec 17 2011 23:07 utc | 31 I have huge respect for Klein, born when I first read “Bagdad Year Zero”. I disagree with her on the degree of our “resilience”. But overall, I find her writings pretty right on. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 17 2011 23:08 utc | 32 @ Roger Posted by: DakotabornKansan | Dec 18 2011 0:24 utc | 33 PissedOffAmerican, I was too hard on Klein. The thing is, many public ‘intellectuals’ get my goat, just because they are ‘public’, i.e. given a voice, a place, in the media, which means that they will fudge here and there, or tailor their message to the ‘larger public’, or some section of the ‘public’ that has known xyz opinions. They become quasi-politicians, cultural icons or figures, make their living off it, thus are careful not to cross red-alert lines. They don’t contribute to meaningful change directly (indirectly, perhaps), because without the status quo they would not exist. They do slice and dice, well it is human I suppose. And Klein is one of the best of the lot…the shock doctrine did alert a lot of people and no logo was an entertaining book. Posted by: Noirette | Dec 20 2011 14:32 utc | 34 @DakotabornKansan, Posted by: Roger | Dec 21 2011 6:42 utc | 35 If Hitchens is to be remembered let it be as an eminently forgettable persona non grata. He was a carelessly myopic ratbag motivated entirely by self-interest. It’s beyond the pale to even suggest that an individual who led such a selfish existence be remembered as some kind of selfless contributor to the betterment of humanity. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 21 2011 15:08 utc | 36 “it’s not exactly like the U.S. military lay down cluster bombs to purposely target children and other innocents” Posted by: ran | Dec 21 2011 15:53 utc | 37 @ran, Posted by: Roger | Dec 21 2011 19:38 utc | 38 so they drop bombs that indiscriminately rip to shreds every living thing in a wide blast radius and you agree they don’t give a shit who it murders but you give them a pass because it’s not “purposeful”. nice. bet if your family was on the business end of this war criminal bullshit you wouldn’t be so understanding. Posted by: ran | Dec 21 2011 22:02 utc | 39 @ran, You’re twisting what I said. I simply pointed out that your complaint about not giving a shit is consistent with (though far more specific and limited and inferential then) my claim that there is not purposeful targeted murder of innocents taking place as a matter of policy. Simple logic applied here. I did not claim that there was rampant “not giving a shit” occurring (that was your claim alone) nor rampant murder (which you added later). Posted by: Roger | Dec 22 2011 3:25 utc | 40 Yea, I’m sure all the hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed and widowed and orphaned civilians resulting from our illegal wars of aggression just since 9/11 would be delighted to know how much our bombing techniques have improved over the years. Tool. Posted by: ran | Dec 22 2011 7:19 utc | 41 Discussing how civilian death has been reduced due to improvements in technology as well as changes in policy – such as where we used to actively carpet bomb civilian populations as we did in WWII and Vietnam is somehow being a tool? I don’t follow your “logic”. This conversation between you and I was started by you on the very topic of technology – the use of cluster bombs. The fact that you resort to name calling and changing the subject to “illegal wars of agression” I will take as an admission (likely subconscious) that you can’t win on the cluster bomb argument. Beyond that, I’ve lost interest in debating you. You prove my original point about the hatred in this thread (and probably site). There are more positive and effective progressive/lefty sites to spend my time and money on. Posted by: Roger | Dec 22 2011 19:30 utc | 42 |
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