Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
December 15, 2011

A Lesson About The National Character?

Policymakers and historians will continue to analyze the strategic lessons of Iraq -- that’s important to do. Our commanders will incorporate the hard-won lessons into future military campaigns -- that’s important to do. But the most important lesson that we can take from you is not about military strategy –- it’s a lesson about our national character.
Remarks by the President and First Lady on the End of the War in Iraq, Dec 14, 2011

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A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.
State Senator's Barack Obama Speech Against the Iraq War Oct 2002

Adding:

Two stories which ran today about the military Obama seems so very proud of:

Marines promoted inflated story for Medal of Honor recipient

Crucial parts that the Marine Corps publicized and Obama described are untrue, unsubstantiated or exaggerated, according to dozens of military documents McClatchy examined.

Junkyard Gives Up Secret Accounts of Massacre in Iraq

In their own words, the report documents the dehumanizing nature of this war, where Marines came to view 20 dead civilians as not “remarkable,” but as routine.

Iraqi civilians were being killed all the time. Maj. Gen. Steve Johnson, the commander of American forces in Anbar, in his own testimony, described it as “a cost of doing business.”

Lessons about the national character? I hope not.

Posted by b on December 15, 2011 at 08:16 AM | Permalink

Comments

What "character"????

We don't even vaguely resemble what we claim to be.

And Obama???? Its as if he is just a figurehead for partisan politics, a trojan construct, fabricated with slick marketing and media deception. These criminals nurture the illusion of right versus left as a tactic through which to divide the people, negating our ability to to arrive at a popular concensus amongst ourselves.

But the jig is almost up, and they know it. No longer is that anger and disillusionment of the masses purely focused along partisan lines. We are waking up to the deception, the sham, of partisan finger pointing and blame shifting. And, as we awaken, these brazen traitors, criminals, and whores in Washington DC position themselves to remain in power through dictatorial processes, fascist use of enforcement agencies, and legislation that makes a mockery of the visions held by the Funding Fathers.

"Character" is a term that has no place in a discussion of politics, and the current vermin that masquerade as the leaders of a free and Democratic nation...

http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/14/us-refusal-veto-detainee-bill-historic-tragedy-rights

US: Refusal to Veto Detainee Bill A Historic Tragedy for Rights
President Decides to Sign Ill-Conceived National Defense Authorization Act


"Washington, DC) – US President Barack Obama’s apparent decision to not veto a defense spending bill that codifies indefinite detention without trial into US law and expands the military’s role in holding terrorism suspects does enormous damage to the rule of law both in the US and abroad, Human Rights Watch said today. The Obama administration had threatened to veto the bill, the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), over detainee provisions, but on December 14, 2011, issued a statement indicating the president would likely sign the legislation."

“By signing this defense spending bill, President Obama will go down in history as the president who enshrined indefinite detention without trial in US law,” said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch. “In the past, Obama has lauded the importance of being on the right side of history, but today he is definitely on the wrong side.”

"he far-reaching detainee provisions would codify indefinite detention without trial into US law for the first time since the McCarthy era when Congress in 1950 overrode the veto of then-President Harry Truman and passed the Internal Security Act. The bill would also bar the transfer of detainees currently held at Guantanamo into the US for any reason, including for trial. In addition, it would extend restrictions, imposed last year, on the transfer of detainees from Guantanamo to home or third countries – even those cleared for release by the administration."

continues....

God damn Barack Obama.

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 15, 2011 9:14:07 AM | 1

Freudian slip, I guess....

"Funding fathers".

Thats today. I mean, hey, "Founding Fathers" is so, well, yesteryear.

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 15, 2011 9:16:50 AM | 2

And here is yet one more indicator of our nation's "character". The pathetic crone Clinton postures for political gain by decrying the Russian balloting process, while ignoring what is happening to our own ability to hold fair and honest elections.

The FAILURE, of the leadership of BOTH parties, to investigate the computer theft of our votes, can ONLY mean one thing; BIPARTISAN COMPLICITY IN ESTABLISHING A BALLOTING SYSTEM THAT GUARANTEES A PREDETERMINED RESULT IRRESPECTIVE OF THE PEOPLE'S WILL.

http://www.truth-out.org/forensic-analysis-finds-venango-county/1323877922

Forensic Analysis Finds Venango County, PA, E-Voting System "Remotely Accessed" on "Multiple Occasions" by Unknown Computer

Monday 12 December 2011

by: Brad Friedman, The Brad Blog | News Analysis

A voter arrives at Samaritan Village to vote with new electronic privacy voting machines, in New York, in this September 14, 2010 file photo. (Photo: Uli Seit / The New York Times)
According to the Initial Report from a landmark independent forensic audit of the Venango County, PA, touch-screen voting system --- the same system used in dozens of counties across the state and country --- someone used a computer that was not a part of county's election network to remotely access the central election tabulator computer, illegally, "on multiple occasions." Despite the disturbing report, as obtained by The BRAD BLOG and posted in full below, we may never get to learn who did it or why, if Venango's County Commissioners, a local judge, and the nation's largest e-voting company have their way. And that's not all we won't get to find out about.

continues....

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 15, 2011 9:48:52 AM | 3

BTW. The above article is a MUST READ.

M-U-S-T R-E-A-D!!!!!!

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 15, 2011 9:54:10 AM | 4

"And Obama???? Its as if he is just a figurehead for partisan politics, a trojan construct, fabricated with slick marketing and media deception. These criminals nurture the illusion of right versus left as a tactic through which to divide the people, negating our ability to to arrive at a popular concensus amongst ourselves."

Bingo! Obama is just the latest rep for the malignant 1%ers. Dedicated to helping implement the coming "Global Plantation."

Posted by: ben | Dec 15, 2011 10:06:40 AM | 5

POA 3: Another one of the tools used to undermine democracy, taking the heartbeat of democracy(the vote), and privatizing it. E-voting should be outlawed.

Posted by: ben | Dec 15, 2011 10:12:46 AM | 6

As far as Iraq goes, one cannot responsibly recognize the extent of the deception if what happened at "Tuwaitha". and the eleven other UN storage sites, is not a component of your body of knowledge. The very building blocks of WMD technology were allowed to be looted from UN secured storage sites. If we invaded to protect us from terrorists employing such technology, why did we hand it to them on a silver platter?

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 15, 2011 10:24:17 AM | 7

One has to marvel at the claims in the US this week that the war in Iraq is over. Bush Cheney couldn't have come up wit a bigger lie... while the AUMF is simultaneously extended, iran sanctions are implemented and the fact the battlefield is global, even inside the US borders, was made perfectly clear...

The Iraq war is global now more than ever... yet it's all championed as being "over". And most Democrats cheer!

Posted by: Eureka Springs | Dec 15, 2011 10:41:01 AM | 8

The game remains the same. Divert taxpayer money into WarCorps and the banksters as fast as possible, turn the citizens into indebted conned-sumers, and pretend pretend pretend there was no other way. It does seem that the mask is slipping off the face of plutocracy, but I'm sure that in 2012 we will have some kniggit in shining armor to vote for. Of course, there will be yet another demon puppet in that armor, but 'same as it ever was.'

Mr. PissedOffAmerican, you may want to look at some 2004 thru 2005 issues of the Toledo 'Blade' and the Cleveland 'Examiner.' Voting has been a sham for a long, long time, but the 2004 election revealed the iron fist.

"It is certainly more fun to watch two Capitalist parties go at each other than just having the one Communist party to vote for. The things they fight over in public are generally symbolic little tokens of social policy, chosen for ease of public posturing. The Communist party offered just one bitter pill. The two Capitalist parties offer a choice of two placebos. The latest innovation is the photo finish election, where each party buys 50% of the vote, and the result is pulled out of statistical noise, like a rabbit out of a hat." Dmitry Orlov

Posted by: no6ody | Dec 15, 2011 10:44:59 AM | 9

US politics has descended to a mélange between vaudeville, public clowning (e.g. Rick Perry’s gayness and Jacket) and Orwellian Novlang and double-speak.

Interesting how those two registers complement each other, I think it has to do with immediacy, with always living in the present, and never examining or calling up the past, as it is considered irrelevant.

It is nothing like the deep black, cynical, humor that pervades societies under blatant authoritarian rule. (e.g. USSR.)

I will shut up about B.O - he can now imprison me at will. To be fair, the ‘detainee bill’ is the culmination of policies that were first hesitantly put forward by G. Bush.

Just saying, I warned everybody about Barry, ha ha, so what.

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B.O. is kind of a Tea-Party President, in the sense that he is the Wall Street Darling (so, huh, ‘capitalist’ or a fraudster..) and he has done, and will do, all he can to cut ‘entitlements’ (medicare, SS, public education, etc.) and to oppress the poor overall, blacks particularly (he hates them like poison), prisoners, illegals (insofar as there is a surplus of cheap labor) non-violent criminals, low level employees, workers, etc. all with smarmy lying democrap sounding speeches.

So, there is no more politics in the US, as B.O. is hated by the Tea Party but he is their president!

I hope that makes some kind of weird sense.

Posted by: Noirette | Dec 15, 2011 11:08:46 AM | 10

"I hope that makes some kind of weird sense"

No "weird" to it Noirette.

Posted by: ben | Dec 15, 2011 11:21:19 AM | 11

apperently, Iran hijacked the US drone by spoofing GPS coordinates

www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1215/Exclusive-Iran-hijacked-US-drone-says-Iranian-engineer

Posted by: nikon | Dec 15, 2011 3:35:16 PM | 12

great, that is the end of the drone war for now.

Posted by: somebody | Dec 15, 2011 4:02:26 PM | 13

The American chimera of democracy in the beginning - the middle - and the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEAXQhJjpRA>government serving the interests of the elite

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 15, 2011 4:03:32 PM | 14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEAXQhJjpRA

try here, from the intrepid series, Deadwood.

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 15, 2011 4:08:06 PM | 15

Watching the debates???? Can that fuckin' witch Bachman be more ignorant and bloodthirsty??? The damned fool can't even get the letters "IAEA" right, and her misrepresentation of the IAEA's latest report is astounding. Mark my words, the ignorant hillbilly will start a nuclear war if she stumbles her way into office.

This line-up, with exception of Paul, is absolutely terrifying with its degree of racist animous towards the Muslims, and the hawkish manner in which this racism is exhibited. These war-mongering ghouls are BATSHIT CRAZY. God help us if anyone of these fuckin' maniacs gets their hands on the nuclear trigger. These people pose a faaaaar greater threat to the global community than Ahmadenijad does.

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 15, 2011 10:30:29 PM | 16

POA @ 16: Not to worry, the real wardens of the kingdom have their man in one B. Obama. The so-called republican "debates" are Kabuki, meant to distract the hoards of sheeple that make up the bulk of the U.S. electorate.

Posted by: ben | Dec 15, 2011 10:42:14 PM | 17

I really believe the serious candidates are Gary Johnson, and Buddy Roemer, but, they're excluded from the debates because of their refusal to accept PAC money from the money men, and their stands on tax,trade and foreign policy, none of which conform with the globalization crowd.

Posted by: ben | Dec 15, 2011 11:01:30 PM | 18

Eureka Springs @ 8 -- What's struck me about the coverage of the WAR ENDS IN IRAQ! is that, actually, there are no large type headlines, there are no crowds in the streets and city squares, and, while there actually seems to be a modest effort by the MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media) to get us to think this is a Big Deal (but not too much because they don't want to look like utter fools) and NPR is covering families greeting their returning loved ones to create some buzz (but not too much), the public seems unmoved by this "end" of a war.

Perhaps because the politicians have made it clear they the War on Terror will never end -- if they can help it.

So, our troops coming back from Iraq seems almost like an after thought; for the public, the war in Iraq has been over ever since the daily violence counts declined or at least mostly affected Iraqis. And many of these troops will soon, alas, be sent to some other theater of the never-ending War on Terra.

Thanks a lot, Obama. NOT.

There will be no iconic photos of a joyous nation feeling relief at the end of the war, such as the Times Square sailor kissing a nurse (iirc).

Plus, in no way does it feel like any kind of "victory." It's merely that finally the government was unable to continue to get the Iraqis to let our military stay in Iraq contra Obama's strong attempts to get Iraq to let us stay.

Thanks goodness that Bush was pushed into the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA)which set this date for the US to leave -- otherwise, Obama would have had our military there a lot longer.

Posted by: jawbone | Dec 16, 2011 8:06:06 AM | 19

no60dy @ 6 (appropriately) -- Love your word coinage!

turn the citizens into indebted conned-sumers

Posted by: jawbone | Dec 16, 2011 8:11:46 AM | 20

George Galloway on what the world has learned about America from this feckless and illegal war on Iraq.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/15/iraq-death-knell-of-us-empire

.... This is the death knell of American empire, the end of the brief unipolar world in the ashes of whose hubris the lone bugler now stands playing the retreat. Like Ozymandias, history – which hasn't ended after all – will invite us to gaze upon its ruined works and tremble. But instead we will rejoice, rejoice. For the Project for the New American Century it will be never glad confident morning again.

The war that was waged – yes, for oil, and yes, also for Israel – was waged above all to terrify the world (especially China) with American power. It turned into the largest boomerang in history. For what has been demonstrated instead are the limits of near-bankrupt America's power. Far from being cowed, America's adversaries – and its enemies – have been emboldened. With shock and awe the empire soon dominated the skies over Iraq to be sure. But they never controlled a single street in the country from the day they invaded until this day of retreat. One street alone – Haifa Street in Baghdad – became the graveyard of scores, maybe hundreds of Americans. (My emphasis)

Posted by: jawbone | Dec 16, 2011 9:11:25 AM | 21

Thanks. I'd forgotten about Galloway.
He appeared at a US Congressional hearing a couple of years ago and set the Congress Critters straight. I remember thinking at the time that Galloway was the only man in a roomful of self-serving, self-righteous sell-outs and girlie-boys.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 16, 2011 10:57:35 AM | 22

Chris Floyd writes:

>>In March 2003, the United States of America launched an entirely unprovoked act of military aggression against a nation which had not attacked it and posed no threat to it. This act led directly to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. It drove millions more from their homes, and plunged the entire conquered nation into suffering, fear, hatred and deprivation.<<


That's the opening paragraph. He becomes a bit less oblique as he goes on.

His remarks on the national character, in part:

>>But you can, of course, ignore it. This is the path chosen by the overwhelming majority of Americans, and by the entirety of the bipartisan elite. This involves a pathological degree of disassociation from reality. What is plainly there -- the evil, the depravity, the guilt -- cannot be accepted, and so it is converted into its opposite: goodness, triumph, righteousness. The moral structures of the psyche are eaten away by this malignant dynamic, as are the mind's powers of perception and judgment. Thus depravity and evil come to seem more and more normal; it becomes more and more difficult to focus on what is really in front of you, to perceive, judge and care about the actual consequences of what you've done or what is being done in your name.<<


http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/2199-war-without-end-amen-the-reality-of-americas-aggression-against-iraq-.html

Posted by: mistah charley, ph.d. | Dec 17, 2011 7:48:24 AM | 23

Thanks mistah charley for this link to Chris Floyd. The depravity of imperialism that bubbled up out of the American experiment caused Mark Twain to go sour on the country, and despair of the human race. What Floyd is describing has its root in the warped idea of Manifest Destiny, the Indian wars, the Mexican War, and all the early intrigues to lay hands on Cuba, and the "civilizing" that cost the Filipinos such losses and grief. But the growing American depravities are always connected historically to events that tap into states of hysteria. In the past, the anarchist and red scares leading to the Palmer raids and the Espionage Act under President Wilson. Then, as now, crushing socialism, dislocating movements for social justice, and frustrating hopes to even regulate capitalism, are recurring themes in our history.

But the liberated bloodlust, coupled with cognitive dissociation, is leading to the totalitarian moment. The country has again been urged to take up the unending search and destroy mission, that once drove it into the War in Vietnam. It is a state of paranoia, which if prolonged, can lead a whole nation towards a psychotic break. It still goes on as the poet, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, once put it when addressing Nixon in his poem:

The Vietnam albatross still hanging around your neck oh Uncle Ahab and other overweight albatrosses still caught in the rigging of your ship still voyaging continually abroad in search of monsters to slay.

Posted by: Copeland | Dec 17, 2011 1:42:10 PM | 24

And I am reminded also of what Chris Hedges wrote:

Totalitarianism is not so much an age of faith as an age of schizophrenia.

Totalitarian societies are image-based societies, built around image and spectacle.

The willfulness of a people to self-delusion and illusion, refusing to see the corpses, the tears and gnashing of teeth,-- all that the spectacle is fashioned to hide,--this leads the country to ruin. It is a rot that eats away at the country from within.

And there is what Simone Weil said about the adoration of the "Great Beast":

The service of the false god (of the Social Beast under whatever form it may be) purifies evil by eliminating its horror. Nothing seems evil to those who serve it, except failure in its service.

Posted by: Copeland | Dec 17, 2011 2:18:40 PM | 25

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