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September 22, 2011
U.S. Starts Pakistan Attack

U.S. Starts Pakistan Attack

WASHINGTON–President Obama dramatically announced last night that American ground troops have attacked — at his order — a Taliban base extending 20 miles inside Pakistan.

Obama told a nationwide radio and television audience that he would stand by his order, certain to provoke controversy, even at the risk of becoming a one-term President.

"This is not an invasion of Pakistan," he asserted. 'The areas in which these attacks will be launched are completely occupied and controlled by Taliban forces. Our purpose is not to occupy the areas. Once enemy forces are driven out of these sanctuaries and their military supplies destroyed, we will withdraw."

The attack, commanded by American officers and augmented by units of the Afghan army, began about 7 p.m. EDT, about two hours before Obama address the nation and about one hour before he met with Democratic and Republican leaders of Congress to discuss his decision.

The above is not yet real, but a slightly modified version of a 41 year old piece (pdf) by the Cleveland Plain Dealer about Nixon's announcement of his invasion of Cambodia. The speech may become real though at around the end of this year.

Preparations to attack Pakistan started back in July:

U.S. turns to other routes to supply Afghan war as relations with Pakistan fray

The U.S. military is rapidly expanding its aerial and Central Asian supply routes to the war in Afghanistan, fearing that Pakistan could cut off the main means of providing American and NATO forces with fuel, food and equipment.

Today, almost 40 percent of surface cargo arrives in Afghanistan from the north, along a patchwork of Central Asian rail and road routes that the Pentagon calls the Northern Distribution Network. Military planners said they are pushing to raise the northern network’s share to as much as 75 percent by the end of this year.

It seems that those logistic preparations are going well as the U.S. is now starting the next phase, making a public case against Pakistan:

In what amounts to an ultimatum, administration officials have indicated that the United States will act unilaterally if Pakistan does not comply.

When the logistics are fixed and the public case has been made the invasion can proceed.

Just like today in Pakistan's tribal regions the U.S. was already bombing in Cambodia for quite some time before it invaded. Just like today in Pakistan U.S. special reconnaissance forces were operating in Cambodia months before the ground campaign. Just like today the U.S. was already pulling out soldiers from the primary war area when it invaded the neighboring country.

The invasion of Cambodia destabilized that country and eventually led it fall into the hands of the Khmer Rouge. Somethings comparable, but with nukes involved, could happen in Pakistan.

Comments

yeap.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/09/losing-afghanistan-losing-central-asia/
from Wikipedia:
As great a prize as the defeat of these forces was the possibility of the occupation and destruction of large communist base areas and sanctuaries, which had been protected by Cambodian neutrality since their establishment in 1966. As far as the U.S. was concerned, such a course of action would provide a shield behind which the policy of Vietnamization and the withdrawal of U.S. forces from South Vietnam could proceed unmolested.

Posted by: somebody | Sep 22 2011 20:55 utc | 1

Ha, as I was listening to NPR coverage of Mullen’s statements this evening, I figured the much hinted at war with Pakistan is going to be on fairly soon.
As Bush needed to “get his war on” with Iraq, so Obama seems hell bent on not just Pakistan but who knows how many secret wars and black ops in who can tell how many countries.
Somehow, I don’t think it will work as well for an ostensible Democratic president as it did for the Republican Bush, but I could be wrong. Since the administration is now saying straight out that the Pakistan ISI was directly involved in the attacks on Kabul, they may get some traction. However, I think an attack more directly on the US will be needed to gin up war spirit in the US….

Posted by: jawbone | Sep 22 2011 23:45 utc | 2

At this time I think these are just empty threats to cover their asses for a failed campaign in Afghanistan. The US generals and diplos have been intimidating Pakistan for sometime in both private and public but haven’t had much success. Can anyone think up a reason why? Pakistan army is US ally for the last 60 years and has always done whatever the US wanted in the past. Why this intransigence now?

Posted by: Hoss | Sep 23 2011 0:37 utc | 3

oh,good.
This has far reaching potential than people think. In the middle east, the police and army are mostly ex-paks officers and chaps are there in Saudi, Oman and other places. The F-16 spare parts blockade? the pilots were/are training in UAE. And why do you think Saudis bail out the Paks, the only one with nukes? Because they’re their ace to stop any other nutter from bombing them.
A lot of these things are going to come together when the slow war starts.
And in the small arms industry, Pakistan is good, very good. You don’t spend time creating camps to train people for over 30 years(PoK/Kashmir) without the claymores, grenades, RPGs and small arms. And the important righteous/religious anger in getting betrayed by the Americans. Another sucker in the long history of American abandonment of so called allies.
Good times and interesting times.
Watch the chinese get jittery when they see SF forces near their border. The one other thing, the Paks are good at, they sure know how to get everyone involved in the orgy of violence.

Posted by: shanks | Sep 23 2011 3:15 utc | 4

This was planted in today’s Guardian and it confirms my suspicion that what we see here is an organized campaign.
US bomb warning to Pakistan ignored

The American commander of Nato in Afghanistan personally asked Pakistan’s army chief to halt an insurgent truck bomb that was heading for his troops, during a meeting in Islamabad two days before a huge explosion that wounded 77 US soldiers at a base near Kabul.
In reply General Ashfaq Kayani offered to “make a phone call” to stop the assault on the US base in Wardak province. But his failure to use the American intelligence to prevent the attack has fuelled a blazing row between the US and Pakistan.

The angry accusations lift the veil on sensitive conversations that have heretofore largely taken place behind closed doors. On 8 September, General John Allen, the Nato commander in Afghanistan, raised intelligence reports of the impending truck bomb at a meeting with Kayani during a visit to Islamabad.
Kayani promised Allen he would “make a phone call” to try to stop the attack, according to a western official with close knowledge of the meeting. “The offer raised eyebrows,” the official said.
But two days later, just after Allen’s return to Kabul, a truck rigged with explosives ploughed into the gates of the US base in Wardak, 50 miles south-west of Kabul, injuring 77 US soldiers and killing two Afghan civilians.
Afterwards the US ambassador to Kabul, Ryan Crocker, blamed the Haqqanis. “They enjoy safe havens in North Waziristan,” he said, referring to the Haqqani main base in the tribal belt.

If the U.S. knew that a truck bomb was coming what did it do to stop it?

Posted by: b | Sep 23 2011 3:49 utc | 5

If the U.S. knew that a truck bomb was coming what did it do to stop it?
Good question.
Maybe NORAD is in charge of the drones now. If so, they were probably too busy polishing the hub caps to do their job – as on 9/11.
Seriously, though, the Pakis hands are full dealing with a new and major flood event, and haven’t finished dealing with the aftermath of the disastrous floods earlier this year.
It speaks volumes for myopic Yankee navel-gazing that, rather than helping Pakistan to deal with the flood crisis, they’ve decided to blame the Pakis for the abject failure of their ‘seemed-like-a-good-idea-at-the-time’ Ring Of Steel in Kabul.
I don’t buy any of this right-wing redneck bluster. Attacking AfPak was always a dopey idea. Any and every overland supply route is chock a block with choke points which the Pakis are obviously monitoring 24/7 with plans in place to choke them off if the Yankees step too far out of line.
The Afghan fake war was lost several years ago. The only reason they’re still pretending it’s winnable is that US Taxpayers still don’t seem to mind being reamed by mock-war profiteers; and US casualties are still ‘acceptably’ low.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 23 2011 4:46 utc | 6

Hoarsewhispherer, thanks for mentioning the new huge flooding in Pakistan. I do not recall even seeing it mentioned in passing on any of the big broadcast news channels.
I heard about it on the BBC (have to listen between 1AM and 6AM to hear it here, with on hour at 9AM — and this is the NYC metro media market).
NPR recently covered the growing dependence and use of the much expensive northern land route.

Of all nonlethal supplies coming over land into Afghanistan now, almost half arrive via the northern routes. According to Pentagon officials, the goal is to be able to bring 75 percent of that equipment into Afghanistan from the north.
SNIP
The surge of troops and equipment into Afghanistan has mostly ended, but before long, there will be a flow out of the country. The NDN (Northern Distribution Network) was established as a one-way route, from Europe into Afghanistan, but U.S. officials are now negotiating for permission to use the route in reverse.
“As we start to move forces out over time, we also need multiple places to pull forces out,” says Mitchell, who recently became the Obama administration’s special envoy to Myanmar, also known as Burma. “That means the NDN will become more and more important to our operation.”
There is one downside to the northern routes, however. Bringing supplies overland on trucks and railroads all the way from Europe and across Central Asia costs two or three times as much as shipping them by sea and moving them up through Pakistan.
“Cost is a huge issue, obviously, for anything we’re doing in the [Defense] Department and the government right now,” says Mitchell. “But obviously the protection of our forces and the ability to achieve our mission is also extraordinarily important, so we need to balance the cost with the urgent requirements on the ground.” (My emphasis)

Article has a map of the various routes making up the MDM.

Posted by: jawbone | Sep 23 2011 15:08 utc | 7

!As far as the U.S. was concerned, such a course of action would provide a shield behind which the policy of Vietnamization and the withdrawal of U.S. forces from South Vietnam could proceed unmolested.! Wikipedia
That attack was around the time the US had decided to withdraw and was meant to cover the withdrawal.
Why is Pakistan intransigeant? Because they get their money from somewhere else. And because it is a large part of their population. And everybody prefers to be on the winning side. And, I guess, the US broke the understanding in many ways. The understanding they had with Bush. Including Osama bin Laden. Same as Libya I suppose.
It will be not easy to get out without peace. Peace just got killed somehow
http://www.sananews.net/english/2011/09/gilani-terms-assassination-of-rabbani-as-colossal-loss-for-pak/

Posted by: somebody | Sep 23 2011 15:25 utc | 8

in other news of Libya
http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Fear-and-loathing-in-Libyas-Misrata-20110923
if the result of western intervention is this, they can pack up and go. they will not win hearts and minds this way.

Posted by: somebody | Sep 23 2011 15:36 utc | 9

in other news of Libya
http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Fear-and-loathing-in-Libyas-Misrata-20110923
if the result of western intervention is this, they can pack up and go. they will not win hearts and minds this way.

Posted by: somebody | Sep 23 2011 15:36 utc | 10

The REAL news on Libya is yet to come. Until it’s proved one way or another how this all benefits the masses of the Libyan people, I’ll continue to believe this “rebellion” is contrived by forces outside Libya.

Posted by: ben | Sep 23 2011 17:38 utc | 11

Iran steals surface-to-air missiles from Libya
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8782103/Iran-steals-surface-to-air-missiles-from-Libya.html

Posted by: nikon | Sep 23 2011 19:06 utc | 12

Iran steals surface-to-air missiles from Libya

No wonder they kept calling the rebels revolutionaries! reverse engineering here i come.

Posted by: hans | Sep 23 2011 20:07 utc | 13

@ #12.
Commonsense and facts on the ground in Libya (no NATO planes shot down) should be sufficient to tell even the most gullible consumer of MSM “news” that this story is rancid hogwash.
Apart from the above (and to give them due credit), the Tele put the claim in quotes – indicating that it’s unverified.
Then there’s this:
“significant quantities” of advanced weaponry, according to military intelligence officers in Libya.
The only “military intelligence officers” in Libya are French, British, Italian and Yankee – and we all know how truthful and trustworthy they are, don’t we?
Iran can buy ANY defensive weapons it needs from Russia. Russia has made no secret of that fact that it regards defensive weaponry to be beyond the scope of the arms embargo. Why would Iran risk elite forces to steal old, past their use-by date weapons when they can buy up-to-date ones direct from Russia?
And last, but not least, does anyone truly believe that NATO’s pansies and squibs would have attacked Libya if it had functioning A-A missiles?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 24 2011 2:27 utc | 14

@comment12
The author of that piece is Judy Millers partner in crime so to say – one of the main channels of disinfo in the UK press.
It is just yet another opinion shaping piece: ‘Iran=bad’ (and implied there: associated with Al-Qaida = ‘rebels’ in Sudan according to Western mythology).
And what Hoarsewhisperer said. That article has so many holes that it is not worth debunking.

Posted by: philippe | Sep 24 2011 3:02 utc | 15

@12 & 15 “The author of that piece is Judy Millers partner in crime so to say”
Con Coughlin has often been linked to Security Services (SS) in Britain. http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2007/03/dominic-lawson-con-coughlin-and-mi6.html – both he and Dominic Lawson were fingered (ahem) by ex-SS agent Richard Tomlinson
A quick scan of the stories Coughlin writes will easily confirm that he essentially just peddles Western-SS dis-info
He’s about as reliable as those ‘Israeli Intel’ people quoted in that other silly ‘news’ story Nikon was pimping a day or two ago.
Such pimping of SS-propaganda is becoming rather a bit of a habit for our dear friend Nikon, I have noticed

Posted by: Hu Bris | Sep 24 2011 8:10 utc | 16

more on the murder of Rabbani
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2011/09/23/who-killed-burhanuddin-rabbani/

Posted by: somebody | Sep 24 2011 9:22 utc | 17

Nato’s Orwellian statement on the situation in Sirte
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/d98nbj
Protecting civilians, are they?

Posted by: somebody | Sep 24 2011 14:00 utc | 18

those Grad rockets fired into Sirte are really targeted I guess – where is the ICC?
#Libya, Center of#Sirte a battleground, hundreds of anti #Gaddfafi fighters taking part in offensive
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#Libya, #Nato continuing to strike targets in #Sirte … They were active all night, #Libya, #Gaddafi

Posted by: somebody | Sep 24 2011 14:04 utc | 19

Qaddafi enlists new 12,000-strong army of Tuareg tribal fighters
http://www.debka.com/article/21335/

Posted by: nikon | Sep 24 2011 16:41 utc | 20

the pimp returns . . . . . . . with more of his deliciously Über-reliable Israeli SS-propaganda

Posted by: Hu Bris | Sep 24 2011 18:08 utc | 21

SO the pimp Nikon is now peddling the Israeli-SS-propaganda notion that Ghaddaffi is some sort of new Bin Laden figure, roaming hard-to-access areas beyond the current range of brave little NATO-bombers, surrounded by his trusty Taliban-like Tribe of Touregs.
Like the Pashtun of Afghanistan and Pakistan, the Touregs roam through several countries, making all ripe for Western ‘intervention’ of some sort, due to the need to hunt down those deadly ‘Tribal terrorists’ wherever they reside, as articulated in the many pronouncements of those that fight the brave fight in their the relentless pursuit of EeeeeeevHull, whilst propagating The War Against Terror™ (T.W.A.T.™)

Posted by: Hu Bris | Sep 24 2011 18:24 utc | 22