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August 31, 2011
Libya: Rebel Unity Already In Question

In the NYT Kirkpatrick and Nordland write from Tripoli:

Fighters from the western mountain city of Zintan control the airport. The fighters from Misurata guard the central bank, the port and the prime minister’s office, where their graffiti has relabeled the historic plaza “Misurata Square.” Berbers from the mountain town Yafran took charge of the city’s central square, where they spray-painted “Yafran Revolutionaries.”

Where are the fighters from Tripoli? Are there any? How long will the people of Tripoli allow these red neck marauders in their streets?

The U.S. and the Brits tried to arrange for something like an occupation force. The plans UN Special Adviser Ian Martin leaked to Inner City Press of provided for 200 unarmed UN Military Observers. Unarmed? Not really, those "unarmed observers" would be protected by several thousand of heavily armed troops from some foreign country. The National Transitional Council (NTC) nixed the plan. If it would allow foreign troops now it would immediately lose some of the tribal gangs that currently support it.

The next aim for the rebels is to take Sirte. NATO is already bombing the city where Gaddhafi was born and its 100,000 inhabitants. As hundreds if not thousands of the rebel fighters are needed to keep Tripoli occupied one wonders how many forces they have left to push against that city. This could again turn out to be a long and bloody business.

It is likely that Gaddhafi slipped away to prepare for a new phase of the war. It will be interesting to see how that unfolds. There is absolutely no unity within the various rebel groups and no unity within the National Transitional Committee. They will likely fight each other in the coming weeks and month. This gives Gaddhafi a chance to set everything up and to negotiate with various tribes to allow for his comeback.

Comments

oh it is not just the Libyan rebels getting unnerved about who reigns
This here smells bad, oh so bad, of a silly propaganda stunt. Somebody became much too clever I suppose
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/08/2011831151258728747.html
Let me guess, Quatar being pissed their team gets connected to Al Queida?

Posted by: somebody | Aug 31 2011 17:52 utc | 1

more on the contractors’ feud:
http://www.arabist.net/blog/2009/5/27/david-welch-bechtel-and-egypts-nuclear-program.html

Posted by: somebody | Aug 31 2011 18:50 utc | 2

Civilians that don’t need protection by NATO

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 – 17:24 GMT+3 – Libya
About 500 Tuaregs hunted by Libyan rebels have entered Algeria in the last 24 hours, a government source said on Wednesday.
“About 500 Tuaregs were being pursued by the rebels. They fled Libyan territory and, for humanitarian reasons, we couldn’t refuse them entry,” an official, who did not want to be named, said.
Among them were women, children and casualties, the source added.

Posted by: ThePaper | Aug 31 2011 19:58 utc | 3

Abdel Fattah Younes death aftermath

[…]Abdel Fattah Younes, the interior minister under Muammar Gaddafi who defected near the outset of Libya’s six-month uprising, was killed on July 28 after rebel leaders summoned him for questioning, infuriating members of his family and tribe.
“After Eid, that is the final deadline,” Tarek, one of Younes’ sons said in an interview at the family’s Benghazi compound. He did not say exactly what the tribe intended to do if the results were not released.
The rebel leadership council’s chief, Mustafa Abdel Jalil, told reporters on Wednesday authorities would arrest the suspected killers “when the higher interests of this revolution will not be damaged”, stoking anger among Younes supporters.
[…]
Younes’ Obeidat tribe and its allies had promised to join the “front lines” against those accused of the crime if the council does not release the names of the suspects, he added.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 31 2011 20:35 utc | 4

Sounds like the whole thing is getting messy. Assorted Jihadists, Racists, CIA assets, Monarchists, Tribes, and now some shady figure from Betchel Corp. It’s the kind of conflict where you don’t even know which faction you would like to see in power. All sound equally bad for Libyans.
Don’t have any useful links, but saw this before/after photo of Misrata that looked pretty dramatic.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264006_137311913016487_100002130376882_282364_1460330_n.jpg

Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Sep 1 2011 0:14 utc | 5

In the wake of the apparently successful storming of Tripoli by NATO, behind the ‘rebel’ fig leaf, the Sirte stand-off and ultimatum looks highly suspicious. It’s worth noting that the ‘rebels’ are using the reported lull in hostilities to search for evidence of mass graves. One suspects that NATO is planning a Fallujah redux, justified by unexamined claims of mass-murder by forces loyal to Gaddafi.
The recent claim that 50,000 malcontents/potential ‘rebels’ have ‘disappeared’ is an obvious attempt to justify NATO intervention on the ‘rebel’ side – due to depleted numbers. There’s no doubt that NATO is sufficiently mendacious, cowardly and hypocritical to flatten Sirte from the arms-length safety of aircraft and declare the result as a victory for the ‘rebels’.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 1 2011 3:26 utc | 6

Doesn’t the UN resolution under which NATO is acting specify that the actions would be taken to protect civilians from harm? But only some civilians?
I’d say the UN’s reputation is also going to take a big hit from this whole Libyan “kinetic action” and heavy duty bombing.

Posted by: jawbone | Sep 1 2011 14:44 utc | 7

Some dubious (ISI?) “sources” put this to The Nation in Pakistan: CIA recruits 1,500 from Mazar-e-Sharif to fight in Libya

ISLAMABAD – The Central Intelligence Agency of the United States recruited over 1,500 men from Mazar-e-Sharif for fighting against the Qaddafi forces in Libya.
Sources told TheNation: “Most of the men have been recruited from Afghanistan. They are Uzbeks, Persians and Hazaras. According to the footage, these men attired in Uzbek-style of shalwar and Hazara-Uzbek Kurta were found fighting in Libyan cities.”
When Al-Jazeera reporter pointed it he was disallowed by the ‘rebels ‘to capture images.
Sources in Quetta said: “Some Uzbeks and Hazaras from Afghanistan were arrested in Balochistan for illegally traveling into Pakistan en route to Libya through Iran.

Doesn’t sound credible to me …

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2011 16:40 utc | 8

Now, I am under attack by the biggest force in military history, my little African son, Obama wants to kill me, to take away the freedom of our country, to take away our free housing, our free medicine, our free education, our free food, and replace it with American style thievery, called “capitalism,” but all of us in the Third World know what that means, it means corporations run the countries, run the world, and the people suffer, so, there is no alternative for me, I must make my stand, and if Allah wishes, I shall die by following his path, the path that has made our country rich with farmland, with food and health, and even allowed us to help our African and Arab brothers and sisters to work here with us … I do not wish to die, but if it comes to that, to save this land, my people, all the thousands who are all my children, then so be it. … In the West, some have called me “mad”, “crazy”. They know the truth but continue to lie, they know that our land is independent and free, not in the colonial grip.

“Recollections of My Life”, written by Col. Muammar Gaddafi, April 8, 2011, excerpts:

Posted by: hans | Sep 1 2011 19:35 utc | 9

no b 8, they would have noticed in Libya. it is a huge country with few people, they know each other.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/09/201191141151339449.html
“Abdel Majid Mlegta, co-ordinator of the Tripoli military operations room, told Reuters news agency “someone we trust” had said Gaddafi had fled to Bani Walid, 150km southeast of the capital.
He said Ali al-Ahwal, Gaddafi’s coordinator for tribes, was also in Bani Walid, a stronghold of the powerful Warfalla tribe, Libya’s biggest tribe among a population of six million, but many say their loyalty is divided.
“We are capable of ending the crisis but military action is out of the question right now,” Mlegta said.
“We cannot attack this tribe because many of our brigades in Benghazi and Zintan are from Bani Walid. The sons of Bani Walid hold the key.”
I guess sometimes a tribal society is a good thing.

Posted by: somebody | Sep 1 2011 20:27 utc | 10

tweet of the day
inglesi Piers Scholfield
#Misrata fighters here say they lost too many men already so they will only advance into #Sirte after #Benghazi fighters take the city.
31 Aug.

Posted by: somebody | Sep 1 2011 20:43 utc | 11

The BBC reported today that there are significant numbers of British special forces in Libya, that they are Arabic speakers, bearded and dressed in mufti.
Sounds like the Brit version of the American accented guy I mentioned days ago who spoke about providing forward air support targeting.
Can we now assume that the UN resolution prohibiting Western “boots on the ground” in Libya is well and truly moot?
The Beeb news readers sounded quite pleased with this and the role the British special agents are playing in intel gathering, tactical direction, and the search for Gadaffi. Not as much overt chest pounding as Sarkozy, but rather, even, somewhat smug sounding about it. Cameron has been sounding insufferaby Bush-like.
Those of us here in the US who appreciated and took heart from Europeans’ stands and marches against Bush’s invasion of Iraq now stand in awe of the power of propaganda yet again: With the right presentation, it seems, any public can be manipulated to support violent overthrow of another nation’s government.

Posted by: jawbone | Sep 2 2011 13:52 utc | 12

A Reuters writeup on The secret plan to take Tripoli
Lots of “western” forces on the ground …

Posted by: b | Sep 7 2011 8:58 utc | 13