there is, of course, the octoberfest bomb blast and operation gladio as precedent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

let's wait and see, they are talking of two people now, and two terrorists begin to be a crowd ...

Posted by: somebody | Jul 23 2011 13:22 utc | 1

This is from Craig Murray's website. It appears to confirm that the suspect was a zionist zealot.

"Anders Behring Breivik posted links to the Atlas Shrugs website of the Tea Party’s Pamela Geller. Here you can see him under the name of Anders Behring (his middle name) posting links to Geller’s “Atlas Shrugs” site. That cache page is being translated from Norwegian.

Here is a video of Pamela Geller addressing the Tennessee Tea Party convention. This is a list of links I just copied off her Atlas shrugs website to a stream of virulent anti-Norwegian Muslim articles Geller has been publishing:

January 2009: NORWAY: Jewish children are not allowed to play outdoors –

April 2011: Norway: Muslim Taxidrivers Refuse to Drive Jews to Synagogue

May 2009: More Jewish Graves Desecrated in Norway

2009: OSLO: ANTI-ISRAEL RALLY TURNS VIOLENT

2011: Norway: ALL Rapes In Past 5 Years Committed By Muslims

2008: Jewish Genocide watch: Jew Hatred in Norway Part II

2009: JIHAD ON THE JEWS: Something rotten in the state of Norway

2008: ISLAM ATTACKS – Death for Writer! Norway Hides

2007: Massive Islamic Terror Plots: Germany, Norway, Denmark

2007: Email from Norway

2006: Norway calls for Israel Boycott

The links themselves appear to have been disabled. You could still see the links on Atlas Shrugs here as I type this. Someone more technically proficient than me might want to grab a screenshot before the list vanishes.

Geller has been actively promoting links between the Tea Party and the English Defence League. Geller states on her website that she had been in Oslo to attend a pro-Israel rally. It would be interesting to know whether Anders Behring-Breivik was also on that rally."

Posted by: bevin | Jul 23 2011 14:28 utc | 2

I was reading this ridiculous speech titled "You will not destroy us" delivered by PM of Norway. While Norway is rich and prosperous their politicians still are human, and Norway is capitalistic country. After all, politicians of the Norway gave Nobel Prize for Peace to Obama. Commedia dell'arte

Same old narrative: us vs. them. But who is "You" in this speech!? Perhaps, Islamo-fascists!?

He is, obviously mimicking nobody else by George Bush speech after 9-11. I saw this speech yesterday. Not sure, but I think it was before of announcement who the murderer is.

By skimming over the headlines of the Western press I do not see this is refereed as: terrorism. Maybe Norwegians and their PR industry aren't imaginative enough to call this "domestic terrorism", but one can only imagine how the Western media would look like and if the gunmen was a Muslim. Or, they are too ashamed by this and thus paralyzed by the question "How could this have happened to US".

You see Mr. PM "you", actually is, "us".

Posted by: neretva'43 | Jul 23 2011 15:14 utc | 3

I don't know if this Wired report on a recent (and ongoing) DARPA project has already been noted here at MOA.
It's hard to decide whether to view it as frightening or pathetic (or probably both).
I picked this up at Sibel Edmonds' Boiling Frogs site, which seems to have recently received a something resembling a new "aggregator" format.

Posted by: Hannah K. O'Luthon | Jul 23 2011 16:10 utc | 4

Preliminary indications are that this is the work of a man obsessed with Muslim Somali immigrants supposedly living off benefits etc. If correct, it would show that the threat to our life and security comes more from white bigots and extremists rather than Muslims.

Yet doubtless the blame for this outrage will be laid by some strange convoluted logic at the door of the socialists, the Muslims, the multiculturalists, the Euro, the gays, Obama, the treehuggers, global warming freaks, all the "usual suspects" in the Grand Megaconspiracy against Freedom and Truth and Western Civilisation and Democracy as we know it. It was not a racist Christianofascist Fundamentalist blond white nutter - Europe's Timothy McVeigh - that set off the bomb and pulled the trigger: it was the Left.

Posted by: hilerie | Jul 23 2011 19:02 utc | 5

here's a good post by ali @ electronic intifada

Posted by: annie | Jul 23 2011 23:38 utc | 6

the video links of breivik's maifesto @ youtube and google video are both down. here's another. alegedly he downloaded this on youtube the night before the massacre.

Posted by: annie | Jul 24 2011 2:25 utc | 7

neretva'43 I guess Jens Stoltenberg's speech was quite different from Bush as he insisted that terrorism would not change Norway's open democracy. Bush destroyed it. He also insisted that Norway's democratic legislation was sufficient to deal with it.

This here is a Canadian take on the speech:
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1029625--norway-defiesthe-haters

the gunman was arrested immediately after the deed, so Stoltenberg would have known his identity when making the speech. Utoeya also made it very clear that the very heart of Norway's Social Democratic Party was attacked and not the state (which the gunman also made clear by not shooting at the police arresting him)

al jazeera has a good article on the politics of calling right wing terrorists madmen

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/2011723135619293955.html

not to take a hard look on the gunners connections would be criminal, as the European right wing has a policy to join armed forces and the secret service - and vice versa.

when German Social Democrat Gerhard Schröder attempted to have the right wing NPD made illegal by the German constitutional court, he failed when it turned out that a large part of the membership consisted of secret service personnel infiltrating.

Posted by: somebody | Jul 24 2011 4:46 utc | 8

Killing civilians for ideological reasons is the classical definition of terrorism. It is thus perfectly valid to list the ways in which the Media avoids attaching the label of "terrorist" to an individual whose race or religion exempts him from scrutiny by the racial profilers. It might also be valid, and helpful, to compile a list of activities and personal attributes which the profilers happily ignore when displayed by a white, right-wing Christian freemason crank, from the "approved" demographic.

In the new terrorist lexicon there are Muslim (I told you so) terrorists and non-muslim (out of nowhwere) non-terrorists, as in this story from AP.

Gunman's background puzzles police in Norway
http://news.yahoo.com/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-norway-044701742.html

STOCKHOLM (AP) — The 32-year-old suspected of gunning down scores of young people at a summer camp and setting off a bomb in downtown Oslo that killed at least seven is a mystery to investigators: a right-winger with anti-Muslim views but no known links to hardcore extremists.
"He just came out of nowhere," a police official told The Associated Press.
....
But the police definition of "nowhere" is bizarrely myopic - to put it mildly.
....
Public broadcaster NRK and several other Norwegian media identified the suspected attacker as Anders Behring Breivik, a blond and blue-eyed Norwegian who expressed right-wing and anti-Muslim views on the Internet. Police have the suspect in custody but have not confirmed his identity.
....
But he didn't belong to any known factions in Norway's small and splintered extreme right movement, and had no criminal record except for some minor offenses, the police official told AP.
"He hasn't been on our radar, which he would have been if was active in the neo-Nazi groups in Norway," he said. "But he still could be inspired by their ideology."
....
One can conclude from the article, which is littered with similarly skewed perceptions, that being Muslim and/or having the wrong-colored skin or religion is regarded by the racial profilers as carrying infinitely more weight than a criminal record or a record of inciting racist bigotry.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 24 2011 7:12 utc | 9

One can conclude from the article, which is littered with similarly skewed perceptions, that being Muslim and/or having the wrong-colored skin or religion is regarded by the racial profilers as carrying infinitely more weight than a criminal record or a record of inciting racist bigotry.

Does this profiling also include genuine Semite Jews!

Posted by: hans | Jul 24 2011 8:52 utc | 10

this should be spread - from Europol
TE-SAT 2011 EU Terrorism Situation and Trend Report 2011 ... - Europol

Failed, foiled and completed attacks in 2010,
per member state and per affiliation
Member State
Austria, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Greece, Italy, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom

Islamist Separatist Left wing Right wing Single issue Not specified Total
3 160 45 0 1 40 249

So nationalist separatism is most dangerous followed by left wing attacks.

Why don't we fight against nationalism?

[link corrected b.]

Posted by: somebody | Jul 24 2011 9:17 utc | 11

98% of terrorist attacks (off the cuff) since 20 years (I exclude 9/11 here) - and I have posted about this several times, with references, are the work of political, in country, extremes, separatist, first of all, extreme left and right second. Meaning, not islamic, or religious, etc.

> Historically, today the picture is more muddled, because now anti-corp ‘terrorism’ is appearing:

The most recent court case in Switz, in the federal court, 4 days ago, of ‘terrorists’ was against anarchists cum eco-nuts. They are white, young, smart, European, and Italian, and planted bombs and their main plot was against IBM and nano-technologies. They got 3 years ...and no mainstream coverage. (didn’t follow the details.) The previous attack, again not treated in the MSM was against banks .. letter bombs and the like, though a lot of damage was done (one child was disfigured, a darling white girl! iirc) it was hushed up.

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 24 2011 20:48 utc | 12

I'm not a regular reader of Greenwald, but he seems to have nailed this one.

The omnipotence of Al Qaeda and meaninglessness of "Terrorism"

Posted by: Monolycus | Jul 26 2011 12:36 utc | 13