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April 21, 2011
In Which Cordesman Goes Nuts

Anthony Cordesman factual analysis tends to be better than those of other experts. On Libya he rightly writes:

French, British, and US leaders do not seem to have fully coordinated, but it is clear that they sought and got international cover from the UN by claiming a no fly zone could protect civilians when their real objective was to use force as a catalyst to drive Qaddafi out of power. They seem to have assumed that a largely unknown, divided, and fractured group of rebels could win through sheer political momentum and could then be turned into a successful government. They clearly planned a limited air campaign that called for a politically safe set of strikes again against Qaddafi’s air defense and air force, and only limited follow-up in terms of ground strikes against his forces. And then, they waited for success…
[…]
Yesterday’s announcement that British and French military advisors are going to help is not going to alter that situation quickly. It will take months more – at a minimum – to properly train and equip them and it will take a radical shift in rebel leadership to give them meaningful unity and discipline.

In the interim an enduring war of attrition will turn a minor humanitarian crisis into a major one [..]

With those facts on the table, one might expect a call to end the war. Negotiate some some ceasefire, Gaddafi already accepted the African Union’s proposal, and press the rebels who first rejected it to agree to it. End the war, start the politics.

But Cordesman instead goes nuts and calls for massive escalation, killing of more people and years of nation building:

France, Britain, the US and other participating members of the Coalition need to shift to the kind of bombing campaign that targets and hunts down Qaddafi’s military and security forces in their bases and as they move – as long before they engage rebel forces as possible. Qaddafi, his extended family, and his key supporters need to be targeted for their attacks on Libyan civilians, even if they are collocated in civilian areas. They need to be confronted with the choice between exile or death, and bombing needs to be intense enough so it is clear to them that they must make a choice as soon as possible.

This kind of operation cannot be “surgical’ – if “surgical” now means minimizing bloodshed regardless of whether the patient dies. Hard, and sometimes brutal, choices need to be made between limited civilian casualties and collateral damage during the decisive use of force and an open-ended war of attrition that will produce far higher cumulative civilian casualties and collateral damage. The Coalition will also need to avoid the trap of blundering into some kind of ceasefire, where Qaddafi’s forces and unity will give him the advantage. This will be a “peace” that simply becomes a war of attrition and terror campaign by other means.

At the same time, France, Britain, and the US now have a special obligation to both finish what they started in military terms, and deal with the aftermath. A post-conflict Libya will need extensive help in building a workable political system, in rebuilding the capability to govern, in both rebuilding the existing economy and correcting for decades of Qaddafi’s reckless and constantly shifting eccentricities. It will need coordinated humanitarian relief. Force alone will simply be another form of farce.

Does he really believe Gaddafi can be removed by more bombing? How many wars have been won from the air? Not one. He does not say so but Cordesman surly knows that. A massive escalation of the bombing campaign now would clearly lead to a massive ground war.

It would of course also be far beyond the UN resolution and illegal. The principles of the Law of Armed Conflict are that use of force must be reasonable, necessary, proportionate and discriminate. Bombing Tripoli to prevent killing in Misurata is neither.

To the Sarkozy/Cameron/Obama lunacy of supporting one hardly definable party in a civil war Cordesman adds the lunacy of calling for another total and illegal war in Libya.

Comments

Cordesman’s purpose is to urge the EU to drench North Africa in blood. As an imperialist he speaks for those in Washington who feel that what Rumsfeld called Old Europe has been insufficiently supportive of US wars. Europe in this view has been too “picky” and moralistic. Its general support for the US (which has always included complete effective co-operation on matters such as rendition) has not been gung-ho and aggressive enough for the tastes of the neo-cons.
This has meant that war critics in the US have had something to rally around in, for example, France and Germany’s refusal to get involved in Iraq, Spain’s withdrawal and the general scent of disdain for warmongering that emanates from the continent.
Cordesman and his bosses want Europe to take responsibility for an Iraq of their own, for the governments of the EU to rub their citizens noses in the filth of war, the racism, islamophobia and ruthlessness of a campaign in which tens of thousands will die, ostensibly to save Benghazi, but, actually and obviously, to make it clear to Africa, Asia and the world that the Empire does as it wishes, kills and wrecks at will, and without any need to justify itself.
The great message is that the Empire includes Europe in its entirety, butts up against the border of Russia, and is indivisible. Far from fading, imperial power is growing, as Europe sinks its sovereignties into complete subservience to the power based in Washington.
And Europe, (which according to post-Cold War mythology, owes its continued existence to the US, which, in its hour of need, defended it against the barbarian communist hordes), must be ready to re-pay its debt by smashing up Libya, to show the world that the US is not uniquely evil. When it has done so, it is unlikely to have any reservations about completing the programme by joining in the invasion of Iran for example.
The consolation is that these people are insane and that they are doomed not because they face enemies abroad but because they have neglected their own societies and made, of the masses at home, unemployed, neglected, impoverished, a great social force which increasingly realizes that to live and to thrive it must tear down the Empire which is devouring it.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 21 2011 15:22 utc | 1

I, for one, would like to know what folks think of brian’s contention that Mr. Q was willing to spread the oil wealth around with his people. If that has any basis in fact, it would totally explain the West’s intervention in Libya, and why boots on the ground will expand. By the looks of events, Mr. Q has more popular support than most are willing to admit.

Posted by: ben | Apr 21 2011 15:33 utc | 2

bevin, perhaps this article will be a game-changer! Or one of them… :
The Real Housewives of Wall Street
By Matt Taibbi
Source: Rollingstone
Wednesday, April 20, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tjnuG-l6g&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: lambent1 | Apr 21 2011 16:31 utc | 3

I, for one, would like to know what folks think of brian’s contention that Mr. Q was willing to spread the oil wealth around with his people.
The Human Development Index list Libya as the number 53 country, above all other African countries. Free education, free health care, decent housing. That does not come from not sharing oil revenue. There was also lot of money invested in other African country and attempts to create an African Monetary Fund with Libyan money.
The Great Manmade River Project is a major Gaddafi project and, if ever finished, will deliver water from under the desert to the coast where it would be used for agriculture with the aim of food independence.
Maybe the Gaddafi family skimmed of some money for itself. But it did not in a way that left its people poor.
The Libyan government (Gaddafi actually has no government position) decided last December or so not to issue new oil license this year and to decrease the share outside developers could take from 50% to 20%. That was likely the real issue for the current war.

Posted by: b | Apr 21 2011 17:50 utc | 4

This kind of operation cannot be “surgical’ – if “surgical” now means minimizing bloodshed regardless of whether the patient dies. Hard, and sometimes brutal, choices need to be made between limited civilian casualties and collateral damage during the decisive use of force and an open-ended war of attrition that will produce far higher cumulative civilian casualties and collateral damage.
If Gaddafi gets hold of Cordesman’s article, he can use it as a defense to the charge that he is killing civilians.

Posted by: Watson | Apr 21 2011 18:50 utc | 5

Thanks b, makes everything going on much more clear.

Posted by: ben | Apr 21 2011 19:09 utc | 6

i have long sd here that this is a butcher shop & cordesman provides more evidence of the bloodthirst of the elites & as bevin points out if anyone is foolish enough to think this only extends to the other then they are completely mistaken. the elites expose their savagery ate every opportunity, in whatever op eds they write in journals all over this fucked up world; new york times, le monde, el pais etc etc – that not only are we a land without heroes but indeed a culture without thinkers
my friend debs lent me a film, ‘the ghost writer’, the last polanski & while i am not a fan – i have to give credit where it is due – polanski captured the emptiness, the vacuity that exists in the belly of the beast – to call them cretins is to be kind, they are monstrous in a way that only a study of nazi germany – of the appareil, of how the state functions on a daily level – i have often spoken of jurisprudence here it is no accident that the mass killings began with t4 a legal institution enhanced by jurisprudence – ‘of life unworthy of life’
today it is the marriage of the ‘laws’ & ‘rights’ to the media principally its few oligarchs that feeds the horror show we are living makes the day to day life as unliveable as it has ever been, at every level, nearly all of them practical, concrete, material but surely it poisons the metaphysics, the cosmologies within
& because th elites are imbeciles, & because they are without polity that sees any further than next week, then it is obliged to carry out a class war now at every level, thus the concentrating of wealth, thus the imperial exercises that are rushed & mad, that they have no capacity to deal with their own catastrophe & god help the world when monsanto runs it because what we truly understand, at the profoundest level, they know nothing
jewish speculative philosophy of the 14th century, gnostic philosophers of the century after, the sufi esoteric thinkers understood in the delirium of their madness more than these cunts will ever know
the elites are the masters of, ‘i don’t know’, ‘i can’t remember’ & of the ‘magical’ thinking of succesive presidents of the united states who speak about possibilities that even the dumbest of us know are not possible, not now, not ever
& american here – have only to look at the bloodbath that is mexico today to understand the future

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 21 2011 20:29 utc | 7

there are real people dying so it is tragedy in this comedy
but comedy it certainly is
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=16177551&PageNum=0
in German: Lukashenko, Belarus and Libya
http://www.ostblog.de/2006/03/weissrussland_jeans_und_cola_m.php

Posted by: somebody | Apr 21 2011 22:08 utc | 8

The Union that Lincoln preserved is fast disappearing in Wisconsin and Michigan.
I don’t think presidents Truman, Eisenhower, or even Carter, would have stood by demurely, like the current resident of the White House, while nullification of municipalities takes place in the Midwest. The voters are disenfranchised in front of a dumbstruck populace. Mayors and city councilmen are to be pushed aside as land and assets are served up on a plate to the corporate power. The corporate power is assuming feudal prerogatives right before our eyes.
This is the US domestic side of a jurisprudence that is dead from an overdose of corruption and bribery. And bribery is listed in the Constitution as an impeachable offense. The Michigan and Wisconsin governors are flirting with a kind of treason.
On the foreign side of the ledger is the war for resources and political control in Libya. But the masters behind these crimes are the same sick souls.

Posted by: Copeland | Apr 21 2011 23:16 utc | 9

Obama has cried Havoc! And let slip the drones of war….

Havoc derives from Old French, and probably derives from a now lost Germanic word. It means to plunder and entered English through Anglo-Norman, crier havoc, meaning to cry (shout) plunder. To cry havoc is to release one’s troops to plunder the enemy camp or town.

Or to release the oil corporations to plunder the enemy’s natural resources, eh?
From the Chrisitan Science Monitor article:

…. The decision to send Predators into the Libyan theater represents an acknowledgment by the Obama administration that particular elements of the US arsenal could be critical to any chance of success against Qaddafi.
“The president has said that where we have some unique capabilities, he is willing to use those,” Mr. Gates said at a news conference Thursday.
Also speaking at the briefing, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. James Cartwright said Predators are better suited to discerning between Libyan forces and civilians than AC-130s or A-10s, given their array of surveillance equipment.
Qaddafi’s forces “nestle up in crowded areas,” making it “very difficult to identify friend from foe,” he said.

Gonna be some very busy boys with joy sticks in Colorado.

Posted by: jawbone | Apr 21 2011 23:41 utc | 10

is there any legal precedence or internationally accepted rulings in for declaring those on the joystick end exempt from being legit targets, seeing as how they are engaged in the act of war and, therefore, combatants? from the little i understand of the rules of warfare, they should be legitimate targets for retaliatory exchange…

Posted by: b real | Apr 22 2011 0:37 utc | 11

r’giap, when I consider what’s going on, I feel we are inside a film

Posted by: claudio | Apr 22 2011 1:30 utc | 12

claudio, a very bad one

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 22 2011 2:11 utc | 13

I know nothing of ‘fracking’ it sounds too much like a practice that can only be safe if restricted to consenting adults, and then it would be no fun, getting dressed to have sex as my HIV + friends used to do, but I seem to remember back in the days of amerika-China table tennis, and Kissinger & Nixon flying off to meet Mao, that amerika – still full of McCarthyist style anti- humanists, was sold on ‘ping pong diplomacy’ precisely because China had ‘limitless’ reserves of hydrocarbons locked in shale, which would be used to reduce ‘ME dependence’. Then the ‘energy crisis’ ended (ha that’s rich) and it was ‘forgotten’, IE the cost of extraction was no longer ‘competitive’. That reserve has been known since pre Mao China and if either the Chinese or the west are trying to sell this as a new discovery it is just more PTB bulldust.
On the other hand, Libya contains some of the few high probability spots in the world that hava never been properly ‘audited’ by the sleek psychopaths, because they have been held in a semi-embargo by major oil companies, then governments since the passage of the Libyan Petroleum Law of 1955, when the colonel was 15 and still at school. The law gave preference towards small independent prospectors rather than the large oil conglomerates which have trampled on the sovereignty of so many ME and African nations. In addition resource consents are controlled centrally to prevent takeovers of a province by big oil such as the current attempted take-over of Cyrenaica by fukUS.
FWIW it seems likely that the responsibility for the initial aids infection and epidemic at Benghazi hospital and the subsequent arrest and conviction of Bulgarian & Palestinian health workers was down to local Cyrenaica politicians. Cyrenaica pols are currently fukUS pets of the month.
Perhaps that is why the capital sentences initially given the health workers by Benghazi courts and finally overturned by the central government aren’t much used by western media as an example of the colonel’s tyranny, although the man who was justice minister during this period, the quisling Mustafa Abdel-Jalil, has been running off at the mouth trying to blame the whole thing on the colonel, since he scuttled back to Benghazi.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Apr 22 2011 3:40 utc | 14

@ r’giap That ghost writer flick was a better movie than I expected it to be I hope you enjoyed it.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Apr 22 2011 3:43 utc | 15

Obama sends drones to kill Gaddafi.
The CIA is against this and miffed. Its spokeperson, Ignatius of WaPo: sayz:

Not a good idea, Mr. President. And a rare error of judgment by Secretary Gates. I hope it’s not too late for this mistake to be reversed.

Posted by: b | Apr 22 2011 4:52 utc | 16

A BBC article (seems to) attribute the capture of a “border post” to the use of US drones against “government forces.”
This all sounds like a poor first-draft of Star Wars…

Posted by: Jeremiah | Apr 22 2011 6:57 utc | 17

proof positive
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24351

Posted by: denk | Apr 22 2011 8:09 utc | 18

One reason the USuk-parts of the EU hate and are deathly afraid of these ‘successful’ NA/ME ‘rebellions’ is that it is galling to actually see the script for peaceful / non violent / modernising / youth / new communications / free market / development hype / pro free speech / pro democracy / demands spurred by the younger, more educated — turned against them.
The model used to actually effect change was not predicted to be of use in NA by the US-uk-F. They trusted their tremendous propaganda/infiltration efforts world-wide would only serve their agenda, not that of others.
Note, too, that the ‘rebellions’ in Tunisia and Egypt also had the golden quality of being …apolitical in the sense of not being instigated by, supported by, run by, any kind of constituted group(s) with any kind of worked out or long-standing political or cultural agenda, which one reason why the Islamists stayed on the sidelines. This is also a part of the US ‘revolutionary model.’
On the one hand, it can be seen as positive – voice of the people, all that, and may lead to larger adherence and be a factor of success. (Very relative as we are soon to find out.) On the other hand, it is a kind of ‘dumbing down’ strategy, and empties ambient discourse of any political will and potential paradigm change to focus on mainstream demands, such as a rise in salaries, the freeing of political prisoners, rock bottom bread prices, job creation, free speech on the internet – consensual matters.
Such points are presented, literally, as demands (see for ex. Syria, Bahrein, lists) to a Higher Authority, exactly in the way one petitions the King, with less politeness to be sure, and without, on the whole, any credible counter-threat that would force acceptance of the demands. The PTB, as we have seen, react with incremental concessions or sops (e.g Syria has just lifted its ‘emergency law’), because all this costs them nothing and only goes to show that they hold the upper hand. In fact it reinforces their hold and power, as they are the ones facing ‘demands’ and they take the decisions!
Getting rid of the leader – Despot, Tyrant, Life President, King, or other – is part of the US Color Revolution scenario. While one can feel much sympathy for e.g. Tunisians who hate Ben Ali, his wife and his family, wish never to see or hear them ever again, this is once more a rather superficial aim or demand that involves scapegoating, is built on a kind of ‘tribal’ vision of society, and is not a guarantee of change that is beyond cosmetic or trivial. Of course, that is the reason it is part of the US color thing, as the US only seeks to install leaders that suit them, so targeting the clapped out for a newbie replacement(s) is peachy. Real change is to be avoided at all costs. And political discourse is…poison. it might turn ppl to really thinking about what exactly is ruling their lives.
To conclude, I think the West was perfectly happy with Khadafi, particularly because he was the poster boy for the West’s method of applying pressure being successful. He gave up ‘nukes’, paid reparations for Lockerbie (in which Lybia was not even involved) … etc.
That the West now want to get rid of him is part of the laid down script that can’t be deviated from – the ugly Tyrant must GO.

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 22 2011 10:59 utc | 19

Oh, that was about:
..their real objective was to use force as a catalyst to drive Qaddafi out of power.

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 22 2011 11:00 utc | 20

b posted at 4:
The Libyan government (Gaddafi actually has no government position) decided last December or so not to issue new oil license this year and to decrease the share outside developers could take from 50% to 20%. That was likely the real issue for the current war.
As b points out Khadafi did share oil revenues and spread them about. No question.
However, imho, it was very much, throw bread to the ppl, or more nicely stated, share the wealth.
Employment, social advancement, positive cultural change, participating in society, economic development (ha, here opinions will vary by 360 degrees) were kind of AWOL.
Lybia spent a very small amount of its budget on education – experts can be bought world wide for cheaper. See all the foreign nurses – Bulgarian, from Taiwan, etc. Nursing is a respectable profession in Muslim countries for women – desired, enjoyed, somewhat prestigious, if properly paid. Where are the Lybian nurses? Why the huge amount of foreign labor? (See also Saudi Arabia, ppl living off rents with nothing to do..very dangerous..)
Afaik there are no Unions in Lybia and collective bargaining is not permitted. Which says a lot. There are no professional (or other work-related) groups who have any power at all.
Anyway. Oil.
I don’t believe that Oil is in any way a driving factor in the Lybia intervention. The main goal was to exhibit muscle and halt the NA/ME ‘rebellions.’ Oil reserves were a driver re. Iraq, where sweeping regime change, aka, take-over or occupation, was hoped for, in view of its stupendous reserves.
Lybia’s slice of the pie is too small to attract massive take-over, as, moreover, more than 80% of all fossil fuels are already traded in the ‘free’, world wide, market. 1 Second, with the interplay between national oil cos. and contractors plus subcontractors, the 50% or 20% means nothing more than a re-arrangement of who takes what percentage of the profits under which agreement. It is an empty statement, for internal consumption, changes nothing on the ground.
1 / this is a complicated issue, that was just off the cuff.

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 22 2011 11:51 utc | 21

Libyan Prince: I’m Ready to Be King

Mohammed El Senussi, the exiled crown prince of Libya, made an appearance at the European Parliament in Brussels on Wednesday morning, on invitation of some British conservatives. On a hot April day during the Easter break, the packed briefing room felt like a crowded theater compared to the conspicuously empty halls of Parliament.
El Senussi, 48, looked young, fit and trim, like the prosperous Londoner he’s been since his family went from house arrest into exile in 1988. Since then, he has helped lead opposition events and is now eager, he said, to play a role in rebuilding his country, no matter what form it takes.

Posted by: b | Apr 22 2011 12:00 utc | 22

@Noirette – concerning the large amounts of foreign workers in Libya: we must consider the absolute values involved: a population of 5,5/6 million, part of which nomads: I read somewhere that there’s no way such a small population can produce all the technicians/expertise/specialized workers/etc necessary for an advanced infrastructure (centered around oil production, but not only)

Posted by: claudio | Apr 22 2011 13:19 utc | 23

As for me, I believe Mr. Q’s fate was sealed the moment he went from friendly despot, to partially sharing the wealth( see b’s post @ 4). Just like others in history who decided to share anything with workers and common folk. MLK would be alive today had he concerned himself only with civil rights, instead of standing up for workers and the poor. Same with certain leaders in central and south america. The list is endless, and the message is clear. Serve the interests of the mega-wealthy, and be safe. Serve the interests of the working class, and beware. With the wealth and power in ever fewer hands, this rule of thumb is even more apparent. Ain’t Globalism grand?

Posted by: ben | Apr 22 2011 16:21 utc | 24

more comedy in the tragedy
http://www.economist.com/node/18586995
the photoshop image tells a completely different story from the
opinion expressed below: for the visually illiterate the photoshop declares that Obama,Sarkozy and Cameron are colonialists Lawrence of Arabia style – the opinion peace below thinks it is progressive humanitarian intervention.
so while they are talking about a modern Middle East all they can think are camels :-))

Posted by: somebody | Apr 22 2011 17:30 utc | 25

Claudio @ 23, that is quite right. Specially as concerns water-projects and also the high speed train Khadafi wanted to (was? did in part? – don’t know the details) build between Tripoli and Benghazi, which was, I read, to eventually link to Cairo. Then there is Oil.
However, unemployment has always been sky high in Lybia and rose in the middle-late 2000’s because the Gvmt. made an about turn, cutting Gvmt. employment. (Make – work for graduates, in effect.)
The idea was to have a more ‘open, free’ economy, and/or to cut Gvmt. spending. It failed, except for the cutting of Gvmt. ‘stipends’, which did take place, but to what degree and with what effect one cannot judge without examining the complete budget, knowing the country, etc.
The chart linked below is not wonderful, as it is built on standard numbers, World Bank and such, and self reporting, b) the measures used, such as GDP, are not very meaningful, c) they tell nothing about how ppl in a certain environment feel about deprivation, lack of advancement, or uselessness, how they are repressed.
Nevertheless, Lybia is, by far, the country with the highest unemployment, according to this type of analysis. The chart gives it at around 20% – a more realistic figure would be 40 or 50%, imho. Of course, unemployment stats. are generally somewhat ludicrous.
http://www.slate.com/id/2287598/
> by Roubini in March 2011.

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 23 2011 17:00 utc | 26