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April 22, 2011
Haqqani Gets Drones

The results of an inconsistent foreign policy are quite embarrassing.

April 21 2011, BBC: Mullen: Pakistan’s ISI spy agency has ‘militant links’

The US military’s top officer, Adm Mike Mullen, has accused Pakistan’s spy agency of having links with militants targeting troops in Afghanistan.

He said Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had a “long-standing relationship” with a militant group run by Afghan insurgent Jalaluddin Haqqani.

April 21 2011, Reuters: US to supply Pakistan with 85 mini-drones

The United States will provide Pakistan with 85 small “Raven” drone aircraft, a U.S. military official told Reuters, a key step to addressing Islamabad’s calls for access to U.S. drone technology.

Update and further thoughts:

April 22, CNN: U.S. departs Pakistan base, source says

U.S. military personnel have left a southern base in Pakistan said to be a key hub for American drone operations in the country’s northwestern tribal areas, a senior Pakistani intelligence official told CNN on Friday.

It seems that the “small drones” carrot did not work as planed.

The current relation mess started when the U.S. spy Raymond Davis killed two Pakistani men in Lahore without any good reason and was imprisoned in Pakistan. The U.S. then stopped all drone attacks on Pakistani grounds and after a while payed a big bribe to get Davis released.

While that was an embarrassment for both sides, the real mess was created when some idiots within the CIA decided to take revenge for Davis’ capture and imprisonment. He was released on March 16 and the very next day the CIA launched a drone attack which killed more then 40 people who were at a normal tribal jirga, were neither ‘Taliban’ nor ‘militants’ and were on friendly footing with the Pakistani government.

That straw broke the back of the proverbial camel.

All the years Pakistan wanted real eye-to-eye relations with the U.S. but never could achieve such. The U.S. only wanted a client state which would do whatever it was told to do. Despite the fact that the success of the Afghanistan campaign depends on good relations with Pakistan, business deals with India proved to be more important to the U.S. than Pakistan’s existential fears. (India occupies Kashmir, the source of the Indus river which is Pakistan’s sole lifeline. India has several projects to divert that water for its own benefit.)

Pakistan has learned the lecture. Maybe. Ordering the CIA base which directs the drone strikes closed is a serious step. It is not decisive. Drone strikes will continue from the bases in Afghanistan. A really decisive step would be a cut off of the logistic line through Pakistan for U.S. forces in Afghanistan.

Pressure to do so comes from the street. Pakistan is not immune to public movements and the Egyptians did set an example. The Pakistani military knows this but I am not sure it will act decisively enough towards the U.S. to prevent a serious internal revolt.

After that? Who knows?

Comments

blocking supply convoys to Afghanistan seems to be in someone’s agenda:
this article at AsiaTimes by Syed Saleem Shahzad gives a lot of background information / speculation I can’t judge, but it seems this guy Imran Khan is a rising star in pakistani politics, and is leading a two-day sit-in asking for such a block

Posted by: claudio | Apr 22 2011 19:43 utc | 1

“It seems that the “small drones” carrot did not work as planed.”
That’s odd. If some body gave me some really cool model airplanes, I’d let him bomb my house and kill my family. No questions asked.

Posted by: Lysander | Apr 22 2011 21:21 utc | 2

well, once we break the bond that ties us is the isi going to spill the beans about what that isi general was doing having a meeting w/bush that week in september 01?

Posted by: annie | Apr 22 2011 21:39 utc | 3

“A really decisive step would be a cut off of the logistic line through Pakistan for U.S. forces in Afghanistan.”
A simple US response to that would be cutting off military and economic aid to Pakistan.The Pak Army would not care very much about the economic aid but no military aid would leave it vulnerable to Indian pressures. Pakistan and US relations are multi-layered and when you take Saudi-Pakistani and the US relations in the whole mix, the web gets really thicker.
The best way to analyse the US Pakistan relations is through the prism of Pentagon VS. the White House-CIA-State department relations. All the branches of the US government have turf wars going on and the Pakistan army usually follow the line suggested to it by the Pentagon.
Obama thinks it would be good for him to at least partially get out of Afghanistan before the elections. Pentagon sees any withdrawal from Afghanistan a prelude to losing influence and Budget.The CIA has only one role and that is to use only offensive technology (drones) it has to stay relevant. The State department and little miss Clinton believe that they actually run the US foreign policy. So the Afpak represents the chaos in the Obama admin in DC.
The Pak army generals wanna milk the cow for as long as they can. So the games go on. In the end, Pentagon will prevail and if it means the end of the Obama presidency then be it.

Posted by: Rehmat | Apr 23 2011 3:35 utc | 4

@claudio I can’t seem to get that link working but as a spruiker for Imran I may as well give my bob’s worth.
Imran Kan is a Pashtun tribal leader, who came to fame in his role as captain of the Pakistan cricket team and long term player for Pakistan (debuted in 1972, retired from international cricket in 1992 after captaining Pakistan to victory in the world cup). He also led Pakistani in its first test series victory against India.
I recognise that none of this means anything to people who don’t have cricket in their blood, but Imran occupies a hallowed spot in international cricket.
That is probably why I have hoped he would eventually lead Pakistan. He has a few monkeys on his back politically. Probably his biggest is te fact that he married Jemima Goldmith (daughter of an Anglo-French billionaire financier fat cat and total prick James Goldsmith) The marriage was doomed because as ‘liberated’ as Imran prolly is he cannot succeed as a Pashtu leader with a wife who was a target of english gutter press scandals every week. There was nothing to suggest that she was anything other than staunch partner but the english tabloids were appalled that someone so beautiful and rich would marry a “Paki”. The only way to avoid being Murdoch fodder was for her to spend more time in Pakistan than she could handle.
In addition Goldsmith senior was a jew and in Pakistan Imran was subjected to the israeli spy garbage that could be more accurately applied to Asif Ali Zardari.
Imran will eventually get past that, in fact he probably already has, and he has been getting quite a lot of traction as the only Pakistami pol of note to actively resist the blandishments of the foreign imperialists and the Lahore feudalists without being all fundie about it.
His biggest problem is that ever since he entered politics his rivals have cast him as a lightweight – a buffoon who doesn’t know what he is on about.
He doesn’t appear to have gangs of thugs ready to ‘turn out the vote’ so that means to some that he isn’t a player. Imran has been accurate in his predictions of exactly what the relationship with USuk would do to Pakistan and increasingly the populace (many of whom are too young to remember his cricketing) don’t see it that way but it is difficult for any politician no matter how capable if the rest of the political establishment (including the media) decide for their own selfish motives not to take a player seriously.
I hope he does become the leader of a new pakistan that is free from the old corrupt ways and free from the IMF technocrats, but I’m not holding my breath. Most of us know how this works, he will only be ‘allowed’ to win if he bends over for at least one of the anti-Pakistan forces such as the amerikan state dept shit, the USuk military shit, the corporate IMF garbage or the traditional feudalist shit.
If Imran or anyone else worth more than a pile of dogshit gets to lead Pakistan without selling out, it will be a one in a million shot. Plus the person would need excellent 24/7 protection.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Apr 23 2011 10:39 utc | 5

A bit more convoy-burning than usual? http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2011/04/2011422142819623718.html

Posted by: maff | Apr 23 2011 10:41 utc | 6

@debs
the corrected link to Atimes (it seems their web server can’t handle the final backslash; anyways, you can go to the home page and find the “Imran Khan in Taliban peace spotlight” article)
Syed Saleem Shahzad says that one big player is behind Imran Kan: the Pakistan army; less worse than the others you cited? (can’t be worse, can it?)

Posted by: claudio | Apr 23 2011 12:32 utc | 7

annie @3, even if they did, there’s nobody to hear it, or who would listen and act on such information. It’s the same as if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
Was listening to National Propaganda Radio for a short drive yesterday to the grocery, and they were discussing Pakistan. They referred to the internal opposition to the corrupt Pakistani Government as “Militants” whereas the internal opposition to the corrupt Libyan Government are “Rebels.”
Linguistics appears to me be a wasted effort on the supposed audience of this broadcast, but it wasn’t lost on me. I changed the station after that because you just know that was a precursor to a myriad of misdirection.

Posted by: Morocco Bama | Apr 23 2011 12:33 utc | 8

We need more of this…..much, much more of this. Lower your incomes to where you are paying no taxes. That’s another way. I’ve done it, and it’s been a sacrifice, but it’s the right thing to do. You must starve this Beast. Yelling at it won’t get the job done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUn–Euiiyo&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: Morocco Bama | Apr 23 2011 13:44 utc | 9

I’m Indian, so lets get the bias thing straightened out, as in, you may choose to believe or trash my view point. It may take a few generations for me to even reconsider ‘Kashmir is a part of India’ thing, OK?
The GoI has decided to go ‘genocidal’ on Pakistan after the Mumbai attacks. By that, the waters that feed Pakistan, whichever are in India territory, well, fuggit about it. The aim is to use that as food blackmail like the US did in the 1950s/60s against India. If there is no wheat harvest or proper watering during sowing season, you know what the consequences are?
On one hand, you have to buy food and on the other hand, you have to keep buying expensive weapons to keep pace with India’s weaponisation at about $15B/year. India’s Forex reserves 300B, Pak ~10B. Saudi bailout is all that’s keeping it afloat. Like I said, it’s genocidal and it will work, over years. And they can’t leave to the Gulf now, not now, not after being paid to shoot unarmed civilians in the respective gulf cities(the security guards/officers are mainly Pakistanis)
Now, after 26/11, the Indian Establishment(I think) has fairly settled on garroting Pakistan through long term plans like water diversion, international isolation etc. Pakistan has responded by allowing the Chinese in POK (Pakistan Occupied Kashmir).
My point is, Deb’s last man standing, Imran Khan, will be a victim of circumstances than a man of destiny. And in general, in SE Asia, like a friend’s words to me whose life went to pieces due to a series of unfortunate events…
“being in a driverless car, with all the windows up,watching the scenery go by, heading towards the inevitable”
SE Asia, food and bombs. That is all there is to it.

Posted by: shanks | Apr 23 2011 17:56 utc | 10

“Lower your incomes to where you are paying no taxes.”
I’ve been doing this for more than a decade, can’t remember the last time I paid Federal taxes. Old Tim Leary had it backwards, he shoulda said drop out, tune in and turn on.

Posted by: anna missed | Apr 23 2011 19:45 utc | 11

Two thumbs up to anna missed. Excellent revision of Tim Leary’s charge.

Posted by: Morocco Bama | Apr 23 2011 21:34 utc | 12

MB @ 9; Powerful message, all true. Been there done that. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: ben | Apr 24 2011 3:14 utc | 13

It’s been discussed, but Juan Cole is relentless with his support of the rebels in Libya……..I suppose he has joined the mainstream media……time to delete his link…..

Posted by: georgeg | Apr 24 2011 13:58 utc | 14

Morocco Bama–
I guess I must be going thru male menopause, or maybe I just can’t take it anymore, but pieces like that bring me to tears like a knife ripping thru my heart. Damn that’s one brave man!
georgeg–
Not to tell someone what to do, but isn’t it better to keep checking on Jaun’s website to keep abreast with the lies he might be pedaling? I think Malooga recently posted about the need to spend time in those places where the lies are created. Hang out with the opposition and slowly try to ease a few facts into the conversations between plebs commenting. Soft and subtle is the rule for the propagandist in this age. Be a one person truth army, but do it very, very slyly. Just like they do.
Peace

Posted by: DaveS | Apr 24 2011 14:30 utc | 15

@ben, you’re welcome. Somehow, I knew you would appreciate it.
@DaveS, it had the same effect on me, so I guess we are both male menopausal…..or maybe we are suffering from Low T. If so, don’t worry, there’s a cure……there’s always a cure.
http://www.testopel.com/

Posted by: Morocco Bama | Apr 24 2011 18:09 utc | 16

@MB-9
powerful speech
the great absent in today’s mad world are the peoples of the west; we mostly lay cowering, keeping a low profile; every new war, every new lay-off, there’s an unconscious sight of relief (“they are taking out / firing someone else; maybe my turn won’t come”; maybe I’ll get though this); racism flourishes because it designs new categories of victims distinct from ourselves
and a feeling of powerlessness, of inevitability, of lack of a common ground on which to plant a flag of collective resistance;
the most confusing and depressing effect is due to the practical unanimity of the political-intellectual-journalistic élite
finding a few resounding “NO!” like the speech you linked to is a necessary starting point
we can’t leave the whole weight of the resistance to the arabs, the persians, the pashtun! the iraqi sunnis ejected the neocons from the mainstream, but paid the price of Fallujah and Abu Ghraib

Posted by: claudio | Apr 24 2011 21:34 utc | 17

Pakistanis plan two day protest against unmanned drones
http://www.spiderednews.com/Pakistan_I.htm?url=@http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-europe-13179763

Posted by: Rick | Apr 25 2011 2:54 utc | 18

oops – goofed up link with frame info
try this:
Pakistanis plan two day protest against unmanned drones
http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-europe-13179763

Posted by: Rick | Apr 25 2011 3:00 utc | 19

From Wall Street Journal:
Pakistan Urges Afghanistan to Ally With Islamabad, Beijing.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704729304576287041094035816.html
What to make of this? Don’t have access to whole article but the intro is significant in many aspects and especially so for internal US politics…

Posted by: Rick | Apr 27 2011 5:35 utc | 20