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January 24, 2011
Opinion Change: War On Iran Is Indeed The Plan

Until today I was convinced that the U.S. under Obama would not attack Iran. The move would be irrational as the consequences would be too severe. But today the Leverett's at their blog Race For Iran point to a conference in Washington D.C., organized by the mercenary company Executive Action LLC in support of the anti-Iranian marxist terror cult MEK.

Several speakers there argue for attacking Iran. One of them is Gen. James Jones, until recently National Security Adviser in the Obama administration. The way he explains the Obama administration policy towards Iran makes it clear that the intend and logic conclusion from this policy is indeed an all out military attack on Iran.

You can see Jones' seventeen minute long talk in this video starting at 1:15h.

In it Jones says all the same scary stuff that was said about Saddam Hussein before the war on Iraq. That war was, as again confirmed in the Palestine papers today, for the benefit of Israel:

Secretary Rice inserted, "At this time there is no threat from the east [to Israel] because our forces are in Iraq and will stay there for a long time." Chief Palestinian Authority negotiator Saeb Erekat added, "For a very, very long time."

Jones' in his talk is arguing that Iran could give a nuclear bomb to some terrorist organization. Exactly the same nonsense was said about Saddam's Iraq.

But just like Iraq, Iran does not have any nuclear weapons nor does it want any. Predictions that Iran will have a nuclear weapon "in three years" have been made about every year since at least 1984. All have been false and untrue just like today's predictions about Iran's "nuclear weapons program" are.

What Jones confirms is that the Obama administration's policy on Iran, like most other Obama policies, is simply a continuation of the Bush policy. There is no change at all and with regards to Iran the policy was and is directed to a military solution.

What might hold back the Obama administration is a recent series of events in the Middle East which all point to a harsh decline in U.S. standing there.

The people in Tunesia threw out their U.S. supported and Israel friendly dictator setting an important example. In Lebanon the opposition is interrupting the U.S. plans for the Special Tribunal to viably accuse Iran and Syria. The Palestine Papers expose the hollowness of the "peace process" and the Abbas regime. Muqtada Al-Sadr's support for the new Maliki government in Iraq means the U.S. military will have to leave. The unwillingness to support Karzai's peace talk attempts with the resistance in Afghanistan will pull the U.S. deeper into the maelstrom there.

Thinking rational it seems unlikely that with all these troubles, add in additional Wikileaks and the unsolved economic problems, Obama would think of starting another war. But tossing over the Middle East chess board plus inducing another patriotic wave for war may also be seen as the easiest short term way out of these problems.

After all, Obama does not stand for anything. He will do whatever gets him reelected. If he thinks what he needs is a war on Iran, and from Jones' talk it is obvious that war is indeed the plan, he will launch it.

Comments

map, china boxed out
i wish somebody would knock a few holes in this theory

Posted by: flickervertigo | Jan 24 2011 19:45 utc | 1

This can’t be true, it would be utter madness.

Posted by: EGrise | Jan 24 2011 19:56 utc | 2

This can’t be true, it would be utter madness.
We pasted madness years ago, we’re on to gotterdammerung. Gil Scott was wrong, the revolution has been televised. Only Ameican Idolatry was on so, no one caught it.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 24 2011 20:53 utc | 3

There a lot of fights inside Washington. Which faction is Jones talking for?

Posted by: alexno | Jan 24 2011 21:45 utc | 4

Another christian trying to sensationalize our pain to boost empty blog ratings. The US can’t beat Arabs, they certainly can’t beat Iran and they know it. They won’t attack. This is just bragging to feel better after China gave the US and the jews a lesson in how to make money.

Posted by: UreKismet | Jan 25 2011 7:22 utc | 5

“They won’t attack.”

depends on how desperate israel is, doesnt it?
if israel is desperate enough to do another 9/11, this one blamed on iran, then the situation becomes kinda unpredictable.
you gotta hope that israeli leadership realizes that israel was a bad idea in the first place… and you gotta hope that israeli leadership is only going through the motions while getting a cut of the loot as america is looted, and they’ll knuckle under to geologic, political and moral reality sooner or later, without irradiating the middle east.
that’s what you gotta hope, slim as that hope may be.

Posted by: flickervertigo | Jan 25 2011 7:55 utc | 6

First this disclosure: I approach anything by the Leverett’s with some prejudice.
Here is a snippet of Flynt Leverett’s bibliography from his website:

“Dr. Leverett is a leading authority on the Middle East and Persian Gulf, U.S.
foreign policy, and global energy affairs. From 1992 to 2003, he had a distinguished career
in the U.S. government, serving as Senior Director for Middle East Affairs at the National
Security Council, on the Secretary of State’s Policy Planning Staff, and as a CIA Senior
Analyst. He left the George W. Bush Administration and government service in 2003 because
of disagreements about Middle East policy and the conduct of the war on terror.

Maybe it’s just me, but anyone who has supported for 11 years, at such high levels of power,
the many U.S. foreign atrocities as the people of the world have witnessed, should not
expect a warm reception from any rational human being, much less, financial support as his
web site requests. Leverett left the Bush administration not because of the war itself, but
because he disagreed of the “conduct”? This is change to believe in?
The “change” is worrisome on so many levels. As Senior analyst for the CIA, Leverett’s boss
would have been George Tenet. (You remember, Mr. ‘Slam Dunk’!)
“Tenet had a high-minded sense of what the DCI’s job is, to provide the best intelligence
to the president without a political agenda,”
says Leverett.
Geesh, no wonder Tenet gave a strong endorsement to Leverett’s latest book, “Inheriting Syria: Bashar’s Trial by Fire.”
This from amazon.com:

No matter what your point of view, this is a well-written and solidly argued
book that could not be more timely. – George J. Tenet

Leverett obtaining an endorsement from George Tenet on the Middle East, is like
‘The Bernank’ giving an endorsement to Ron Paul!
More recently, Leverett sure played his hands ‘close to the table’ when testifying in the
Canadian Court proceedings regarding the rendition and torture of Maher Arar.
There are alarming tidbits in this story:
Ashcroft May Have Personally Ordered Arar Deportation.

Mr. Leverett, who is also a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency,
conceded under cross-examination that his old employer must have been involved at
some level if Mr. Arar was flown from the United States to the Middle East on a CIA aircraft.

[Emphasis added in above quote.]
And in that same story:

Mr. Leverett said yesterday that he was a source for some of the information
appearing in news reports about the Syrian connection with the CIA.
But he said could not account for other parts of the news accounts that said Syrian
intelligence had helped thwart an attack on the U.S. embassy in Ottawa.
A National Post story in July of 2003 quoted Mr. Leverett as a source in this regard.
Mr. Leverett said he had no direct knowledge of the alleged bomb plot and that all he was
really confirming to the Post reporter was that he had heard the same information that had
appeared in U.S. media.
He said he was interviewed by the Post shortly after leaving government and “I was still
learning how to talk to the press in a nuanced and clear way.”

Well, he must have been “learning how to talk” also when
he spoke with Seymore Hersh for the ‘The New Yorker’ on the same topic:

Syria also provided the United States with intelligence about future Al Qaeda plans. In one
instance, the Syrians learned that Al Qaeda had penetrated the security services of Bahrain
and had arranged for a glider loaded with explosives to be flown into a building at the U.S.
Navy’s 5th Fleet headquarters there. Flynt Leverett, a former C.I.A. analyst who served
until early this year on the National Security Council and is now a fellow at the Saban
Center at the Brookings Institution, told me that Syria’s help “let us thwart an operation
that, if carried out, would have killed a lot of Americans.” The Syrians also helped the
United States avert a suspected plot against an American target in Ottawa.

Quite simply, it appears Leverett has more allegiance to the elites than to the whole truth.
Or to put it another way, using lyrics from an old song “Whose your Daddy, is he rich
like…?”

There are other examples to mention, but some words on the actual topic of this thread are
in order. After listening to Frank Gaffney
(yeah, this Frank Gaffney)
this evening verbally attack Putin on CNBC’s ‘The Kudlow Report”, the stage frame is now set in my mind.
The Headline from Leverett’s website reads:
WITH “ENGAGEMENT” FAILING, WASHINGTON VOICES URGE OBAMA TO EMBRACE THE MEK AND REMOVE ITS TERRORIST DESIGNATION.
Exactly what would a ‘SUCCESSFUL ENGAGEMENT’ consist of? Successful to whom? After all,
these talks meant nothing to the Israeli/U.S. Neocon elites. There has been no secret that
the original desires of the Israeli/U.S. Neocons at the onset of the Iraq War was to proceed
with similar goals/destruction to the current government/people/culture of Iran. These
desires have not lessened, but why ring the alarm bell now? The headline and article sure
appear alarming, so much so, that it seems an attempt at furthering intimidation of Iran in
any future talks. But the Leverett’s would know better than that. Iran is more secure than
ever, Iran has grown as a trading partner with other nations, and Iran has grown in economic
terms despite sanctions. Today, for example, PressTV has a headline that “Iran signs $4
Billion worth of gas contracts” during the last 10 months. Another headline today: “Iran
constructing 5,000km railway”. All this in the background of closer ties with Syria, China
and Russia, while the U.S. relations with these nations are strained. ‘Embracing the MEK’
appears nothing more than words of desperation instead of a reality of choosing other
options, whether they be peaceful talks or military aggression.
I agree regarding ‘War on Iran’, that is “This can’t be true, it would be utter madness.”

Posted by: Rick Happ | Jan 25 2011 8:00 utc | 7

“…is now a fellow at the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution…”

saban? …my goodness, you dont mean haim saban, do you? …not the “i’m a one issue guy, and that issue is israel” guy?
thanks, rick

Posted by: flickervertigo | Jan 25 2011 8:11 utc | 8

@Rick – nice collection about the Leveretts. Nothing new to me in there. But what please does that have to do with my piece above? I found the link to the Jones talk at their site. That’s all.

Posted by: b | Jan 25 2011 9:02 utc | 9

The Long War Journal, a Pentagon operation in my view, is pushing an Iran=Al Qaeda meme Tony Blair links Iran and al Qaeda
We have seen all of this before …

Posted by: b | Jan 25 2011 14:09 utc | 10

i’ve noticed the LWJ functioning as a disinformation outlet re stories of AQ in somalia (ex.) and i’m fairly convinced that it is deliberate. once i even posted a comment there w/ references to discredit claims made in one of roggio’s tales but they never published it.

Posted by: b real | Jan 25 2011 14:48 utc | 11

Now that Saudi Arabia, which is by far the most oil-rich nation in the Middle East, is making plans to develop nuclear power in order to meet its energy needs (see link below), Israel and the US can no longer claim that Iran is lying about wanting to develop nuclear power in order to meet its energy needs, too. Despite Saudi Arabia totally eclipsing Iran in terms oppressing its people, Israel and the US won’t do to the Saudis what they have done to the Iranians, which is threaten them with military strikes for enriching uranium. This says to me that both Israel and the US are aiming to become oppressive regimes like the very oppressive regime of Saudi Arabia. There’s really no other way to explain why Israel and the US was continuing to cozy up to the Saudis.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/saudi-alternative-energ

Posted by: Cynthia | Jan 25 2011 19:22 utc | 12

New MI chief: Iran could have nukes within two years

Iran will be able to achieve a nuclear bomb within one or two years, the incoming head of Israel’s Military Intelligence said Tuesday, but added that such a move would depend on the will of the Tehran leadership.
“The question is not when Iran will have the bomb. The question is how long it will take for an Iranian leader to decide to have the centrifuges start enriching at 90 percent,” Brigadier-General Aviv Kochavi told a meeting of the Knesset’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee.
Kochavi said he does not expect an Iranian leader to make such a decision in the next year out of a fear of harming the government, which is already paying an economic price over fear of their nuclear program.

The economic price of less stupid subsidies and independence from gasoline imports …

Posted by: b | Jan 25 2011 19:35 utc | 13

“if israel is desperate enough to do another 9/11”
sorry I didn’t realise this blog was populated with american fools. I had thought there was intelligent dialogue. Run off and find your martians.

Posted by: UreKismet | Jan 25 2011 19:57 utc | 14

“motive, means and opportunity”
who are the most likely suspects… seeing as how the evidence was destroyed, the investigation was rigged, and the conclusions of the investigation confirmed the official conspiracy theory, a theory that was fabricated by the mainstream media and its AEI minders within hours of the event…
no due process here, boys… nope …trial by media hysteria, that’s the way you do it.
meanwhile, a year before 9/11, the neocons had admitted they needed a new pearl harbor… and netanyahu, the once and future king of israel, thought that 9/11 was a pretty good deal.
*shrug*

Posted by: flickervertigo | Jan 25 2011 20:19 utc | 15

and if you want to go back to sharon’s visit to the al aqsa mosque, which occurred at about the same time the american neocons and fellow travelers were admitting they needed their new pearl harbor…
remember, that visit to the mosque that seemed to be a deliberate provocation, the visit that touched off the intifada that was broadcast 24/7 into american homes, that convinced every american tv viewer that arabs and muslims were filthy brutes capable of any atrocity for a year before the crowning atrocity happened?
does that smack a little of doc aumann’s fine hand? …maybe a scenario that had been gamed out thousands of times on aumann’s crays at the “center for rationality”?

Posted by: flickervertigo | Jan 25 2011 20:25 utc | 16

remember this article from the jewish world review?

“A little over half a century ago, Isaac Asimov created a new universe, home to a decaying galactic empire and a novel form of social order known as the “Foundation.”
Asimov’s “Foundation” novels — the most famous science-fiction trilogy between “Lord of the Rings” and “Star Wars” — described a new science of social behavior called psychohistory. Mixing psychology with math, psychohistory hijacked the methods of physics to precisely predict the future course of human events.
Today, Asimov’s vision is no longer wholly fiction. His psychohistory exists in a loose confederation of research enterprises seeking equations that capture patterns in human behavior. These enterprises go by different names and treat different aspects of the issue. But they all share a goal of better understanding the present in order to foresee the future, and possibly help shape it.

Asimov’s ‘Foundation’ theories on society move from fiction to academia

Posted by: flickervertigo | Jan 25 2011 20:33 utc | 17

then we have a founder of israel saying, ““there’s nothing in jewish ethics or jewish tradition that disqualifies terrorism as a means of combat”
and we have zippy confessing, “I am against law — international law in particular. Law in general.
then we have the alliance between the neocons of the AEI and exxon, and if anyone had an idea of the timing of peak oil, it would have been exxon.
and now, four years after the event, the IEA admits that global production of crude oil peaked in 2006.
do you think israel will survive once its america protection collapses from oil shortages?
was peak oil the immediate motive for the AEI/PNAC/9-11 operation?
we dont know, do we? …because the investigation was a sham.
but once you apply the “motive, means and opportunity” to compiling a suspect list for 9/11, guess who comes out at the top of the list?

Posted by: flickervertigo | Jan 25 2011 20:46 utc | 18

Some may remember I have *always* said that the US would not, will not, attack Iran. 10 years about.
I’m surprised b changed his mind!
In a way, it is less likely than ever.
The US has been getting steadily weaker, its image is slipping, tumbling fast.
Gvmt. Obama has been a crashing disappointment world-wide. Ppl feel fooled, and have examined US political structure and function more closely and have not liked what they found. The healthcare boondoggle astonished many – it appears Dems are even worse than Reps, – arguments along that line. One major factor: Obama is a lousy diplomat, he does not engage, is slow, bored, boring and haughty. Bush reputedly was obnoxious and sometimes rude, also dense, unsophisticated – these are flaws that can be worked with. Bush delegated a lot, stood by his ppl, Obama fails to even fill posts.
(Opinions from Int’l com. around here. fwiw)
Economy. Stiffing the world with securitized sub-prime toxic sludge did not go over well. Bail outs “appear” to originate in the US. Dollar hegemony is increasingly under attack, or at least questioned. The smooth picture of the US as the number one economic power-house is completely eroded. Its poverty, misleading stats, unequal wealth distribution, staggering debt, opaque Fed, oil consumption, waste, prison system, offshore tax havens, are all coming under scrutiny, where before they were invisible, ignored or explained away as particularities.
Security, anti-terrorism. (Also, immigration and the Patriot Act.) From Western Europe, on this point the US is: a laughing stock or a pre-fascist State, above all a country to be feared – not respected, but disdained. When ppl no longer want to visit a country because they expect they will be mistreated, as individuals, there is trouble ahead.
Israel. Mearsheimer and Walt broke the taboo of speaking out against Israel lobbies or being publicly anti-Zionist. The barrier that holds Israel / a Jewish State / Jews as some sacrosanct exception is crumbling, though ‘leaders’ uphold it still.
Foreign policy. Bush ..>.. Obama. Enough said. Gitmo. More could be added.
Now, weakness, shredding of image and status, economic power, can lead to inconsiderate lashing out, absolutely.
But not in this case I think, hope.
Internally. The weakness mentioned are, I think, keenly felt, if not digested and tackled. They do, however, signal a fork in the road, a choice between re-trenching and blasting aggression.
Where is the appetite in the US for more war? What is the result of Afgh. and Iraq invasions that ppl support, today, beyond the rah-rah or tinselly propaganda sound bites? How can an overstretched and extravagantly, ruinously expensive military embark on other forays?
Budget cuts? Something has to go. Moreover, Iran is not the deliberately weakened Iraq or the wild mountain west of Afgh. What happens to the world energy market when the Straits are shut, who is going to suffer? What would the backlash be world-wide for the hegemon?
Lastly, one has to admit that the US and Iran are more rivals than opponents, and the US has in fact by its actions strengthened Iran in the ME, much of the aggro action is symbolic and wordy, even hypocritical, and serves internal discourse, flag waving, etc.
Against Iran….The US policy of funding, hiring, encouraging proxies of any kind as long as they are against the enemy is so empty, lame, short-sighted, it is crazy… supporting the MEK? The power-house US, is to support a minuscule group of islamist communist terrorists ? Gimme a break. It is vaudeville.
(Ok the MEK is now sorta secular or whatever, and this is not the first time the MEK was up for re-hab.)
No. The US will not invade Iran.

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 26 2011 15:56 utc | 19

@Noriette – The US has been getting steadily weaker, its image is slipping, tumbling fast.
That is, if I now understand the Obama gang thinking correctly, precisely the reason for them to show that “the U.S. can do it”.
All the reasons you name to not attack Iran are valid. But they may not be important enough.

Posted by: b | Jan 26 2011 18:58 utc | 20

@flicker – you say: we have a founder of israel saying, ““there’s nothing in jewish ethics or jewish tradition that disqualifies terrorism as a means of combat”
Do you have any link or source for what you claim in that? I can not find one.
BTW: My thinking on 9/11 is “they let it happen” and likely not even on purpose. My thinking is not “they made this happen”. That’s crackpot talk in my view. If you are a crackpot, this blog is the wrong place for you.

Posted by: b | Jan 26 2011 19:04 utc | 21

Neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition can disqualify terrorism as a means of combat
operation northwoods
you have an opinion about the the perpetrators of 9/11… i have a different opinion, that opinion being: we need a real investigation.
we are reduced to compiling a suspect list using the traditional method (motive, means and opportunity) because the official investigation was a farce.
we need a real investigation of 9/11, but given the way power is distributed in america, we’re unlikely to have a real investigation, ever, because the powers will resist a real investigation until they no longer have power, and by then, the rest of us will be so preoccupied with survival that 9/11 will be the least of our worries.
IEA “peak oil” 2006

Posted by: flickervertigo | Jan 26 2011 20:47 utc | 22

There is definitely something to b’s point in comment # 20. A bad gambler on a losing streak does not think logically. He will find it hard to do the right thing, which would be take whatever is left of his money and go home. He will even find it hard to do the next best thing if he insists on playing more: Namely make smart bets with your best chance of winning.
Quite the contrary. He will be severely tempted to take long shot bets that potentially could recover all his losses in a single play, but with very bad odds of success.
That is the position the US is in. However, attacking Iran is seeming less like a “long shot” and more like jumping out the window after having lost it all.

Posted by: Lysander | Jan 26 2011 23:29 utc | 23