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December 16, 2010
Attrition Warfare

American commanders say their plan in the next few years is to kill large numbers of insurgents in the border region — the military refers to it as “degrading the Taliban” — and at the same time build up the Afghan National Army to the point that the Afghans can at least contain an insurgency still supported by Pakistan.
Intelligence Reports Offer Dim View of Afghan War, NYT, Dec 15

Thus, the administration escalated in response to North Vietnamese Taliban actions. Its objective was to inflict a level of pain on the North Vietnamese Taliban that was sufficient to make them bargain in earnest. Thus Vietnam Afghanistan became a war of attrition. Johnson Obama would regularly characterize his decisions as taking the middle ground. He would not "pull out" as the "doves" and "nervous Nellies" suggested nor would he go "all out" as the "hawkish" military advisors recommended.

Fighting a war with limited and political objectives had an added liability. It was difficult to define and convey the idea of "progress" to the public. There were few set piece or conventional battles and American objectives were not defined in geographical terms (e.g., Berlin and Tokyo). Instead, the administration was forced to create and essentially sell indicators of progress to the public. Herein lies the origin of such commonly used terms as "pacification zones" and "kill ratios."
The Vietnam War 1962-1968

Ho Chi Minh said, in reference to the French, "You can kill ten of our men for every one we kill of yours. But even at those odds, you will lose and we will win." Most analysis of war casualties indicates that the allied army inflicted roughly a three-to-two ratio of communist combat deaths against allied deaths. Ho Chi Minh was proved correct in that the US eventually pulled out.
Body Count, Vietnam War

Comments

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Posted by: annie | Dec 16 2010 8:58 utc | 1

When I saw that article, I knew instantly b would comment on it here. I have to wonder what Bob McNamara would have thought to see his GM-style management still alive and well at the Pentagon.

Posted by: Jeremiah | Dec 16 2010 16:43 utc | 2

I can’t decide if Obama has an overwhelming desire to become a war-winning president, or if he’s working on behalf of our war profiteers. But one thing is clear to me: Obama is using the presidency for his own personal gain. And he is willing to do this even if it causes our country to go bankrupt!

Posted by: Cynthia | Dec 16 2010 17:21 utc | 3

What we have here is the sweeping institutional failure typical of late empire collapse – where the truth is rendered irrelevant compared to the illusions manufactured for ulterior purposes. Our golden boy Petreaus is in fact, no general at all, but a bejeweled political alchemist tasked with wowing the powers that be with temporal feats of magic that play tricks with expectations. The Shiite militia in Iraq or the Taliban in Afghanistan – like Ho Chi Minh or Giap in Vietnam – by comparison, works specifically, directly, and exclusively with the truth and play no such parlor games with themselves and that’s why they always win against a superior but bedazzled and feckless enemy.

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 16 2010 19:10 utc | 4

that is the essence of it
imperialsm, outside of the endless slaughter deals only with simulacra – that is why the theatre with the imposter taliban leader was not at all surprising
they really do not know, really not – outside of the crudest forms of control & power – excessive force etc – they are completely useless & no one believes them – whether it is a peasant farmer or one of their chosen lackeys
what seems different today is the velocity of that – that the theatre is revealed rapidly – wikileaks in its way even with the filters of an elite media – there appears to be an acceleration of the absolute emptiness of their reign
the cheny bush revealed utterly the criminal nature of that empire while at the same time exposing – it growing need to use the repressive state apparatus just to hold on to a certain sense of order. we have gone from there to a form of public hysteria combined with a very public impotence
late capitalism’s berlin wall came tumbling down in september 2008 & it keeps on falling & for all its mock gravity it is a burlesque that has no possibility of ever rising again

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 16 2010 21:02 utc | 5

US generals have decided to kill more and more people in the Pashtun region. Slaughtering people is their answer to everything. The blood debt will seep into the tiny crevices of border land between Pakistan and Afghanistan: blood on blood. These leaders are degenerates alright, along with the profiteers who are making money by the basketfuls, on the death and misery on all sides.
I am sickened that with our best intentions as citizens, the best we can do is elect men who strike a pose, an air of civilized bearing, only to betray us when they take office. Diane Feinstein, the California senator and fascist-in-waiting Palin declare with maximum brutishness their desire to silence Julian Assange. And the president is an empty vessel and empty suit. “Mock gravity” and “burlesque” are perfect terms for describing the degenerate condition of the US empire.

Posted by: Copeland | Dec 17 2010 0:28 utc | 6

I am sickened that with our best intentions as citizens, the best we can do is elect men who strike a pose, an air of civilized bearing, only to betray us when they take office.
If only they could know, Das Leben Der Anderen

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 17 2010 4:50 utc | 7