Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 1, 2009
Obama vs. Netanjahu

Obama as well as Hillery Clinton have made it clear to the Israelis that they do want a real stop of any expansion of colonial settlements in the West Bank. But the Netanjahu government is defiant.

To increase the pressure the Obama administration is revealing the points it will use to build up further pressure:

The measures under discussion — all largely symbolic — include stepping back from America’s near-uniform support for Israel in the United Nations if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel does not agree to a settlement freeze, administration officials said.

Other measures include refraining from the instant Security Council veto of United Nations resolutions that Israel opposes and making use of Mr. Obama’s bully pulpit to criticize the settlements, officials said. Placing conditions on loan guarantees to Israel, as the first President Bush did nearly 20 years ago, is not under discussion, officials said.

Are UN Security Council veto votes really only 'largely symbolic'?

The idea behind this is that the Israeli public is said not to like governments that let Israel lose U.S. support. I am not sure how correct that view is.

There are also a somewhat obscure report that the U.S. is holding up Israeli requests for certain weapons. If true that is probably a more effective pressure point.

For now it seems to me that Obama is really trying to change Israels behavior. But the tools announced are not the most effective. Losing U.S. money would be a real problem for the Netanjahu government. But Obama would have to risk a defeat in Congress if he tries to lower Israel's allowance.

Still the pressure seems sincere, something I doubted at the start, and the fight Obama versus Netanjahu is now on.

Who will win?

Comments

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i’m not entirely convinced of the sincerity of the opposition to netanyahu’s corrupt government. on the ground i think we will see the occupation extended by ‘settlements’ & there will be no real halting that
the preparations for war that israel is acting out in the next five days speak more of the truth of her position than anything elses & i would not be completely surprised if she did not use this moment to menace lebanon generally & hizbollah particularly
& of course that banal barking dog blair has his toungue squarely up the ass of israel’s elite

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 1 2009 16:06 utc | 1

I gotta call you on that one, r’giap.
Obama spent a lot of time in Indonesia as a kid. His Dad’s Muslim.
He’d need to be constructed of aluminum and rubber not to resent the suffering of the Palestinians at the hands of Israelis.

Posted by: china_hand2 | Jun 1 2009 16:09 utc | 2

Also, let’s not forget that Obama is, after all, a black man in United States. He can’t be oblivious of a clear Jim Crow state–actually, substantially worse, in my view–that is Israel today.

Posted by: kao_hsien_chih | Jun 1 2009 16:15 utc | 3

Who will win?
I’ll place my money on a proven thirty-plus-year winner.
Israel has over 200 military helicopters, so holding up a few new helicopters won’t hinder them, and Israel’s many friends in Congress will soon correct that. Anyhow, unmanned aircraft (which Israel produces and sells) are the future in military combat aviation.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 1 2009 16:16 utc | 4

point takn, chinahand2 – but i am not sure of what obama is made – in such a short time already he appears like bushredux pn the questions of torture, rendition transparency
& as khc hints – the apartheid state of israel will be defended up to the last second of the last minite as the apartheid sate of south africa was
i would be genuinely startled if there was a specific change on that front

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 1 2009 16:33 utc | 5

Obama’s recent “pressure” could be nothing more than a show of toughness as he prepares for his speech to the muslim world in Cairo.
In any case, Obama needs to watch his steps or he will end up a 1 term president just like Carter.

Posted by: Anthony | Jun 1 2009 16:38 utc | 6

Yes it does look sincere if not effective or just another move in the shadow play. Obama takes a strong stance on settlements, and in a way he cuts to the heart of the matter, stealthy territorial expansion. But everyone knows stopping settlements is a joke, unless you have po-lice on the ground destroying them. (Which Obiman has not.) Settle, dismantle, re-settle, rinse and repeat. The Israelis keep talking about organic growth, whatever that is, it is supposed to sound like a Swiss village building two buildings and a small housing complex to house the younger generation at acceptable cost outside a traditional village. Heh.
Again, extreme conservatism, and ignoring legal arrangements, it is astonishing really, is B.O’s mark. Stopping settlements will work fine once Palestine has a proper status. Without that, nothing much can be done, and all that is achieved is signaling to Bibi, I don’t like you, am showing a bit of muscle, etc. B. O concentrates on houses and pools.
What has he said about the Wall? This stunning (TM) symbol of apartheid has gone under the radar…. or about movement, about roads, about controls, about the recent laws that curtail Arab Israeli participation in an Israeli state?
He has just picked one thing to blah about.

Posted by: Tangerine | Jun 1 2009 16:56 utc | 7

Bush threatens to withhold loans if Israel continues security wall
From the Independent, Aug. 2003.
link

Posted by: Tangerine | Jun 1 2009 17:06 utc | 8

if netanyahu wins the Israeli home vote and Obama wins the international Jewish vote from the pulpit then Obama wins.

Posted by: outsider | Jun 1 2009 17:21 utc | 9

From what I gather, many of Obama’s foreign advisors see Russia and China as still the threat. In their mind, the issue is turning the Islamic world into an ally & buffer. In that context, Israel is more a pain in the ass than a useful ally. It’s only the domestic political calculations that keep them from just dropping support of Israel, it seems. But that will get vastly easier to do if Israel keeps going with the settlements and/or attacks any of its neighbors.

Posted by: jim p | Jun 1 2009 18:55 utc | 10

I try to be as cynical as anyone, but Obama’s moves don’t look half bad, IF they are beginning moves and not ending moves.
Stephen Walt (denounced by the Israeli Lobby for claiming that there is an Israeli Lobby) has a piece a couple months ago pointing how difficult it would actually be to cut military aid to Israel, but examining all the other ways pressure could be put on Israel, and arguing that a graduated course of increasingly painful steps would be more effective than a giant fight to cut aid, anyway. His analysis is here:
http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/04/10/can_the_united_states_put_pressure_on_israel_a_users_guide
The first steps he suggested: “Change the Rhetoric.” “Support a U.N. Resolution Condemning the Occupation.” “Downgrade existing arrangements for “strategic cooperation.””
I would never have guess Walt had any sway in the Administration, but it is at least possible they are pulling directly from his playbook.

Posted by: Bill | Jun 1 2009 20:56 utc | 11

I beg to differ with some of you here. Living just a stone’s throw away from the Black Belt, which can easily double as a Bible Belt, I can vouch for the fact that many southern blacks run neck and neck with many southern whites when it comes to racial bigotry. What’s worse is that most of them, black and white alike, are even bigger bigots when it comes to anything beyond the borders of Judeo-Christianity. In fact, if Obama were a practicing Muslim, there’s no way in hell southern blacks would come together to form a voting block for Obama. Many southern blacks view Obama as a Messiah for the black cause, but even more so, they view him as a Messiah for the Christian faith. Believe it or not, there’s sizable number of Hagee-types among the southern black population. They view Arab Muslims as devils at work to wipe out the Angels of the Middle East, the Israeli Jews. I’m sure that Obama isn’t blind to this and thus will go above and beyond to make sure that he doesn’t inflame his faithful followers of the South into believing that he’s working on behalf of the devils against Christ.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jun 1 2009 21:04 utc | 12

Obama’s all things to all people, apparantly. He’s an empty veesel that you can fill with whatever floats your boat.
Tangerine, your latest link at #8 was right on, and combined with Anthony’s #6 tells the whole story. We’ve seen this pattern repeated once, already, and most likley numerous times in the past with Presidents. They have to show they’re tough with Israel early on, so the two parties agree on an issue the Prez can llok tough on. Ike was the only one who got tough with Israel, and that wasn’t really all that tough.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Jun 1 2009 21:28 utc | 13

Many thanks to JFK for setting the precedence for today’s debacle. Truman facilitates the formation of Israel and Kennedy facilitates selling them arms. Two Democratic Presidents, and two major blunders with horrible future consequences.
The Genesis of the US–Israeli Military-Strategic Relationship and the Dimona Issue

President Kennedy was the first American president to enunciate commitment to maintaining an arms balance between Israel and its Arab neighbours. He defined the US–Israeli relationship as ‘special’. He told the Israelis that if Israel were invaded, the USA would come to its support. US diplomatic documents show that, in August 1963, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff were still reserved on the question of arms for Israel, but by December 1963 their approach was already positive. In June 1963, Kennedy told his assistants that he favoured staff talks with Israel. While neither the Kennedy nor the Johnson administrations consented to military staff talks, a seminal meeting on the question of the arms balance in the Middle East in fact took place just ten days before Kennedy’s assassination in November 1963. Yitzhak Rabin, then Israel’s Deputy Chief of Staff, took part in that meeting. This article also discusses the question whether concern over Israel’s nuclear policy (the Dimona reactor) influenced American thinking on the development of the US–Israeli defence relationship.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Jun 1 2009 21:34 utc | 14

If anything is going to happen it will be soon: the 2012 Election will soon be stasrting and the 2010 mid-term is less that 18 months away.
Netanyahu’s ability to defend his agenda depends on his mobilisation of lobbying and money. Thus the break between the Likud and the White House, if there is to be one, will come soon. Or not at all.
Then, to add reality, there is the third dimension: the world beyond Israel and America. A world which includes rapidly accelerating unemployment, falling living standards and other conditions calculated to take the edge off popular apathy, particularly as exemplified in massive transfers of wealth to Israel/Egypt/Jordan while children wait in line for soup and emergency healthcare in California.

Posted by: ellis | Jun 1 2009 22:15 utc | 15

@12,
you need to follow the demografic trend.
Obama owns the Southern youth. White, Black & Latino too.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Jun 2 2009 0:43 utc | 16

A warning to anyone attempting to access Chris Floyd’s site. My computer was attacked by several trojans. McAfee caught and disabled a number of them, but I can’t be sure it got all of them. Maybe the Cyberwar has begun. Interesting that it happens just a mere day after announcing their cyberwar campaign. It’s never happened to me before. It lierally took control of my computer and mouse for a couple of minutes before McAfee expunged it. Unnerving.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Jun 2 2009 1:06 utc | 17

“… I beg to differ with some of you here. Living just a stone’s throw away from the Black Belt, which can easily double as a Bible Belt, I can vouch for the fact that many southern blacks run neck and neck with many southern whites when it comes to racial bigotry. What’s worse is that most of them, black and white alike, are even bigger bigots when it comes to anything beyond the borders of Judeo-Christianity.”
— Cynthia @#12
I’ve lived in the south – the ‘Bible Belt’ (never have I heard it called the Black Belt – that’s something in martial arts, isn’t it)… for almost 70 years… and I find your comments to be bull…

Posted by: crone | Jun 2 2009 2:39 utc | 18

Cynthia (12), if you want to talk about racial bigotry, how about this below? And why does the ‘principled’ West do nothing about Rabbis exhorting Jews to ‘Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle)’

U.S. Rabbi demanding genocide of Arabs

Posted by: Parviz | Jun 2 2009 4:00 utc | 19

Goodness Parvis, the comments there were shocking. It’s telling who the real religious extremists are. Further, if we follow the Bush doctrine, we should go shoot that Rabbi who wishes to resurrect the book of Joshua. How is that not decried twice what any Arab could ever say?
They love talking about Hitler, but unless I misapprehended history, Hitler has the greatest military might at his disposal despite being vastly outnumbered by his enemies. And, in this analogy we are to believe the Arabs are the Germans? If they’d develop the print they’d see they’re looking at negatives not slides.

Posted by: scott | Jun 2 2009 4:35 utc | 20

From Tangerine’s link # 8:
Bush threatens to withhold loans if Israel continues security wall
That’s the key word – threat – more rhetoric becuase the separation wall was declared illegal and the US had to respond. They didn’t want to appear complicit via financing the construction so they declared that any money Israel spent on the wall would be deducted from US taxpayer largesse. Of course this never did happen as zero was deducted. The moral of this story is always the same. Pay less attention to what they say and more attention to what they do and the picture becomes clear.

Posted by: Sam | Jun 2 2009 6:43 utc | 21

U.S. Chabad Rabbi: “I don’t believe in Western morality
Chabad rabbi to Moment: “Destroy [Muslim] holy sites”

May 21st, 2009 by Josh Nathan-Kazis
In the latest issue of Moment magazine (which features a cover story by New Voices contributor Jeremy Gillick), a group of American rabbis respond to the question, “How Should Jews Treat Their Arab Neighbors?” Most of the responses emphasize equality, morality, and restraint. Then a Chabad rabbi wheels out the crazy:
I don’t believe in western morality, i.e. don’t kill civilians or children, don’t destroy holy sites, don’t fight during holiday seasons, don’t bomb cemeteries, don’t shoot until they shoot first because it is immoral.
The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle)
.
The first Israeli prime minister who declares that he will follow the Old Testament will finally bring peace to the Middle East. First, the Arabs will stop using children as shields. Second, they will stop taking hostages knowing that we will not be intimidated. Third, with their holy sites destroyed, they will stop believing that G-d is on their side. Result: no civilian casualties, no children in the line of fire, no false sense of righteousness, in fact, no war.
Zero tolerance for stone throwing, for rockets, for kidnapping will mean that the state has achieved sovereignty. Living by Torah values will make us a light unto the nations who suffer defeat because of a disastrous morality of human invention.

Rabbi Manis Friedman
Bais Chana Institute of Jewish Studies
St. Paul, MN
When we published Jeremy’s piece on Lubavitch rabbis on the radical fringe of the settler movement, we were accused of exaggerating their importance. We were told that they were marginal figures, outside of the influence of Lubavitch HQ in Crown Heights, and that few American Lubavitchers shared their extremism. Rabbi Friedman’s wacky-if-it-weren’t-scary comment in Moment should defuse some of that criticism.
Friedman seems to be a fully integrated into the mainstream American Chabad movement. He was the Rebbe’s translator until 1990, he has almost 200 articles and videos up at chabad.org, the movement’s official propaganda arm, and his Minnesota women’s yeshiva is listed in the official online directory of Chabad outposts. His website is fancy and looks well-funded.
When I come across this sort of thing, I wonder at Chabad’s popularity among secular Jewish students. These aren’t just bad politics, they’re insane politics. At what point does the Chabad rabbi tell the prospective Ba’al Teshuva that he thinks that Israel should “destroy their holy sites”? Probably not at the first Shabbat dinner, right? Maybe after two Shabbat dinners, a “lunch and learn,” and a Birthright trip through Mayanot?
For more on these subjects, check out my editorial on how Israel should treat Israeli Arabs from our February issue, and our September issue on Lubavitch.

There’s no double standard in the U.S. — I mean, if an American Muslim or Christian cleric advocated destroying Jewish holy sites and killing men, women, children and cattle, I’m sure their “charitable” organization would be allowed to continue to collect
tax-deductible donations.

Mobile Mitzvah Centers is of the conservative, common-sense belief of peace through strength, deterrence, and a relentless, punishing military response to terrorism.
We believe that Israel’s enemies must be crushed to the point of offering peace of their own volition, on Israel’s terms…

Now, if we could just find a Muslim charity in the U.S. whose administrators are not being
viciously hounded and railroaded, we’d be able to test that hypothesis…

“Federal prosecutors and FBI agents “smirked” while most of the room was stunned and outraged at such a miscarriage of justice. The defendants were then taken away and flashed peace signs as they left, displaying their strength and pride for saving lives in Occupied Palestine.
…an aura of betrayal pervaded the room. Two decades ago, they came to this country to escape such Israeli-influenced persecutions, and now they” endured the same injustice in America. They plan to appeal and believe “truth and justice will emerge triumphantly from this gloomy low point in American history.” It’s a curse at a bad time to be Muslim in America. When the noblest among them are victims of injustice – prosecuted for their prominence, activism and charity. …
In spite of strong defense objections, an anonymous Israeli intelligence agent (identified as “Avi”) was allowed to testify as an expert witness – with no knowledge of who he is, his credibility if any, no fact-checking on his claims, his obvious bias, and no accountability if he lied under oath. It remains for the appeals court to rule on whether to reverse the verdicts because of this, the use of secret “evidence” unavailable to the defense, and other gross prosecution discrepancies.

Post courtesy of AlicetheKurious, from Jeff Wells blog.
Shalom.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 2 2009 8:48 utc | 22

Scott (20), this is the whole reason why there is such a credibility chasm between the U.S. and the rest of the world, and why Obama doesn’t have a chance in Hell of improving it sufficiently to trigger meaningful change. He can stop the bleeding but not cure the patient as long as ‘the system’ allows rabid Jewish extremists to display their power with such fearless impudence and arrogance.
But be careful, barflies, in criticizing the rabid Rabbi, lest you be imprisoned under the “U.S. Law on anti-Semitism” ……

Posted by: Parviz | Jun 2 2009 9:35 utc | 23

What everyone here seems to have overlooked is the increasing importance of oil-rich nations as an influence on US policy. The process accelerates as the US dollar gives way to the Chinese Yuan as the global currency-of-choice. Nations such as Saudi Arabia, which continue to sell America billions of barrels of oil for credit or for the new “counterfeit” dollars will have correspondingly greater weight in Washington policy-making than they’ve ever had before. Soon they will come to have more clout than the Israel lobby (maybe they already have) and Israel will adjust to the new reality or, in the long run, risk the actual loss of US support. Arab favor is increasingly an asset; Israeli favor is increasingly a liability. Think about it.

Posted by: Jimmy Montague | Jun 2 2009 12:35 utc | 24

Parviz,
Many Christian fundamentalists of Hagee’s persuasion got it stuck in their heads that these killing are perfectly justifiable because they honestly believe that Jews have a God-given right to kill Muslims. It’s my belief that if Christian fundamentalists still viewed Jews as being just as evil as Muslims, as they did not so long ago, the US today wouldn’t be quite so friendly with Israel, much less be willing to fight and die on its behalf.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jun 2 2009 13:27 utc | 25

It’s true, Jimmy, they, and China, are now our Landlords. The Multi-Nationals threw us under the bus. We are now tenants with nukes.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Jun 2 2009 14:05 utc | 26

Good point, Cynthia, and the Christian fundamentalist embrace of the Jews never ceases to amaze me, considering that the Jews killed Christ, the Talmud refers to Christ in the most derrogatory terms and Jews don’t accept even one page of the New Testament as being worth more than a piece of toilet paper.
This essentially shows me that Christian Fundamentalists are the stupidest people on this planet.

Posted by: Parviz | Jun 2 2009 14:46 utc | 27

Uncle,
why do you say the rabbi is crazy? That doesn’t describe him well at all.
I would say he is genocidal, but the term means nothing because it has been drained of feeling. What can you say that means anything in English? (and I mean American English because that is what I know)
The man hates all life that is not “correct”. He is not at all in touch with the reality of bodies, and you can be sure even out of touch with his own. No only can he not be trusted to speak truth, he cannot be credited even with knowing truth. He is a hollow man, and a murderer.
In a sane society, his peers would exile him.

Posted by: citizen | Jun 2 2009 15:31 utc | 28

I finally got around to reading Chomsky’s Culture of Terrorism and in that book he describes Israel as a US Federal Agency. It is useful for doing things quietly and without legislative review.
As a federal agency it will lobby for funding and will want to grow its importance just like every other agency.
This really helped me to finally get my head around it. all the talk and rhetoric is simply noise. it is not a bug but a feature.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 2 2009 15:48 utc | 29

crone,
If you’ve never heard of the Southern Black Belt, either you haven’t lived in the South very long or you’ve never lived in the thick of it. Just do a wiki on Black Belt and you’ll know what I’m talking about.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jun 2 2009 19:08 utc | 30

Parviz-
The christians love zionist because the christians need the temple on the mount rebuilt to usher in the rapture and yada, yada, yada… all the “true believers” feel they can suffer any horror as long as it leads to the return of christ – no mister nice guy this time!- not to mention the four horsemen of the apocalypse (I’d bet $1000 on any of them to win the Kentucky Derby, by several lengths to boot)
The Centaurs of Retribution will show all those no good you-know-who’s, who the real boss-man is and when they’re done, all the creeps the angry horse riders worked over are supposed to vacation somewhere near hell’s lake of fire for a really long time (until a meat thermometer reads 3000 degrees when poked deep into the soul) this might be no small feat considering how cold some of their hearts are.
All these guys going around murdering the heathens with happy, baby-faced smiles, figure they’re on the direct line to the BIG GUY who tells THEM he needs THEIR help killing and killing and killing. Funny thing; they never ask, “why?” the BIG GUY needs some poor human sap to do HIS dirty work. Wouldn’t it be easier for HIM to lob an astroid? And imagine the PR/recruitment campaign that such an act would generate for HIM!
One lousy astroid… there are thousands of ‘um hanging around out there; or even an old satellite floating in orbit, bouncing porn from country to country. Something like that, fastballing into some asshole who was pissing the BIG MAN off… Yeah, that would go viral pretty quick especially if HE’D follow it up with a big laugh and “Gotcha’ Sucker!” booming from the heavens – I’d be elbowing little old ladies out of the way to be first in line at church that night!
As for the christian fundamentalist being the stupidest people on the planet… boy that’s a hard one to call – too many contenders for that title – but most of them are right up there, competing in the pro-class

Posted by: DavidS | Jun 2 2009 21:00 utc | 31

DavidS == What you say reminds me of Arthur C. Clarke’s tale about the scientists vs the creationists. Recall, in his “The Hammer of God”, the scientific community planned a mission to destroy an asteroid bound for Earth, while a religious sect aimed to sabotage the mission, believing it would undermine “god’s will”. This is why we are doomed if religious wackos gain control of the planet.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jun 2 2009 22:21 utc | 32

I’m originally from the South, and I can fully concur w/Cynthia @#12.
We humans are all full of mean spirited-ness and bigoted biases no matter what flavor. I’ve seen and experienced it first hand.
So, yes crone, Cynthia speaks from her truth, which is not necessarily yours. However, it (hers)resonates with mine for what it’s worth.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 2 2009 22:26 utc | 33

@33
it really does’nt matter hardly much how Obama routed the Southern Strategists. The fact is he did it handily
and if Southern Black Fundies are in bed with Southern White Fundies, who gives a flying f%^&. And how many divisions do they have ????
Obama has never needed and will never need more than two Southern states. OK ??? And last time I checked, he’s from Chicago, Why would he even care ?????

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Jun 3 2009 2:19 utc | 34

DavidS, LMHO!!! I think you should submit a screenplay, but since Hollywood is indeed, objectively and indisputably, run by the Jews you won’t get many takers: Even Mel Gibson recanted to salvage his acting and directing career.

Posted by: Parviz | Jun 3 2009 11:06 utc | 35

Here’s the sequel to my comments on the mad Rabbi who demanded genocide of the Palestinians, including civilians and livestock:
Even by U.S. standards of hypocrisy this recent event (documented by impeccable sources) is unique:
A Jewish Rabbi gives an interview to a renowned Jewish magazine (Moment, founded by political activist and Nobel Peace Laureate Elie Wiesel), and re-distributed by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, in which the Rabbi states that
“The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way ….. “Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).”
Even in trying to clarify his comments the rabbi blundered by declaring that his comments applied “during a time of war”, which itself would constitute a “war crime”. In fact, since Israelis are clearly at war with the Palestinians the Rabbi openly advocated the ethnic cleansing of Palestine “the Jewish way”:
http://jta.org/news/article/2009/06/02/1005579/chabad-rabbi-clarifies-remarks-on-killing-civilians
Now, if a non-Jewish religious figure were to denigrate Israel by expressing even a tiny fraction of the hateful and genocidal comments voiced by this Rabbi, the U.S. authorities would crucify that person under the “U.S. Global Anti-Semitism Review Act” that makes even “severe criticism of Israel or its leaders” a punishable offence.
Ahmadinejad, for all his faults, spoke vaguely in abstract terms about the “Israeli Apartheid regime vanishing from the pages of time”, and brought the wrath of the whole Western world, including the spineless E.U., down on our heads in a self-satisfying display of “righteous anger”. Here a Jewish Rabbi demands the genocide of Palestinians and what happens?
Nothing.
Bravo, the U.S.A.. Bravo, the European Union.

Posted by: Parviz | Jun 3 2009 14:19 utc | 36

the bottom line is that a Jew living and working in the United States called for genocide of the Palestinians, his statements were documented by reputable JEWISH sources (The magazine founded by Nobel Peace Laureate Elie Wiesel) and nothing has been done about it.
If a Palestinian had expressed even a diluted version of those sentiments his home would have been swarming with FBI agents, the media would have been up in arms and some brain-dead U.S. Judge would have confiscated Iran’s remaining overseas treasures and handed them to the Jews for good measure!

Posted by: Parviz | Jun 3 2009 14:31 utc | 37

Wow, parviz. Looks like you found a tasty anecdote.

Posted by: slothrop | Jun 3 2009 14:40 utc | 38

Why would he even care ?????
Whoever else laughed out loud at the irony of this statement, please raise your hand. Of course he wouldn’t care, and doesn’t care. He only cares about himself and securing his future fortune from being the No. 1 pitchman for the multi-nationals and commodity regimes. Thank you for smoking.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Jun 3 2009 20:01 utc | 39

I third Cynthia’s 1st and Uncle $cam’s 2nd. I have lived in the South for the last 28 years. Hell, you don’t even have to be in the South to see this behavior by Blacks. Proposition 8 in Cali won because Blacks opposed it in large numbers because of their Fundamental religious beliefs. I guess they should get a free pass when it comes to discrimination. Discrimination doesn’t matter when it comes at the hand of a “minority,” I suppose.
No wonder so many black men are on the Down Low.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Jun 3 2009 20:12 utc | 40

@40,
it must have been a bit of a surprise for American Blacks to be received as beings of excessive sexuality when they first landed on the shores of the USA. It really and absolutely was not their heritage nor their choice.
I have been in the South & in some places theres a church on every block. They really do take church seriously down there and the other thing I recall is all the fretting and anguish late Saturday nights about having to get up for church in the morning. OK, its not the Bronx but its more than enough proof that the Bronx will live forever.
Obama could go on the Larry King show in a turban with Michelle and his three new wives in tow and they all smoke a hookah. Southern Blacks already know they’re not voting for a Repub and Mr Black Fundie probably knows it too.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Jun 4 2009 2:41 utc | 41

O’geddon,
What you say may explain why Obama is turning his nose up at gay rights. Let me point out that Africian Americans are the oppressed minorities of yesteryears. Today’s oppressed minorities are gays, atheists, Muslims, and Native Americans. So I would’ve been a lot more convinced that America had finally rid itself of bigotry and intolerance if Americans had instead elected one of today’s oppressed minorities to the highest office in the land.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jun 4 2009 4:29 utc | 42