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the BBC changes their own reporting
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8102224.stm
“Several thugs wanted to attack a military post and vandalise public property in the vicinity of Azadi Square,” the radio said referring to the site of the protest.
“Unfortunately seven people were killed and several others wounded in the incident.”
The BBC’s Jon Leyne in Tehran says that in light of what he saw of the vast and largely peaceful protests this seems an unlikely version of events.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8101098.stm
“He said the shooting began when the crowd attacked a compound used by a religious militia linked to the country’s powerful Revolutionary Guard.
Other sources told the BBC as many as six people might have died in the incident.”

Posted by: outsider | Jun 16 2009 6:14 utc | 1

Appointment in Yekaterinburg
The Ending of America’s Financial-Military Empire
http://www.counterpunch.org/hudson06152009.html
“US officials wanted to attend the Yekaterinburg meeting as observers. They were told No. It is a word that Americans will hear much more in the future.”

Posted by: outsider | Jun 16 2009 7:07 utc | 2

NYT on the killed in Iran: Iran Reports 7 Deaths in Mass Protest Against Vote Result

The massive outpouring was mostly peaceful. But violence erupted after dark when protesters surrounded and attempted to set fire to the headquarters of the Basij volunteer militia, which is associated with the Revolutionary Guards, according to news agency reports. The first death and several injuries were reported as a result of that confrontation.

Posted by: b | Jun 16 2009 7:50 utc | 3

From WPR: globalization has … restored…the original revolutionary bourgeois of the 18th century.
First weaponizing dissent, and now weaponizing history. Mousavi and Rafsanjani are neoliberal looters, the “original revolutionary bourgeois” were socialist. Unbelievable. We’ve left Orwell and we are finally in Alice in Wonderland. I guess I’m an idiot.

Posted by: Lin Wells | Jun 16 2009 7:53 utc | 4

Don’t know what WPR is and clearly the Mousavi and Rafsanjani are a pretty far cry from the “original revolutionary bourgeois,” but I have to object to the idea that the “original revolutionary bourgeois” were socialists. They often had to appeal to the working classes for support, but being bourgeois, they were capitalists. They were against the landed aristocracy and political systems defined by hereditary power, as opposed to the power of (capitalist) meritocracy, but they were by no means socialist. Not to say that one can’t find a few socialists that originated out of the bourgeoisie, but as a class, it’s fairly ridiculous to claim that they were socialists.

Posted by: Rojo | Jun 16 2009 8:11 utc | 5

Armed assaults and provocations are hallmark of any CIA sponsored ‘democratic’ support campaign. Just make a search about firings on venezuelan oposition rallies and count the hits.
And disinformation from the western media about those events is automatic and immediate.

Posted by: ThePaper | Jun 16 2009 8:48 utc | 6

Original revolutionaries were always to the left of the existing power (feudal rentist nobility or capitalist barons and the high comercial classes). Rafsanjani and Musavi come from the same rotten core of the power. As were the all other ‘reformists’ of the multiple color revolutions.

Posted by: ThePaper | Jun 16 2009 8:52 utc | 7

The Stiglitz article in Vanity Fair is superb; it very politely points out to the American populace that their asses are hanging out, just like their tongues, and that the whole world sees them as the mother monkey that tramples her own young to get at whatever fruit is in view.
He even evinces scorn for “the Chicago Boys” and their murderous school of economics (by putting quotation marks around their epithet), but he doesn’t carry his own insights to their logical conclusions — probably because he is an economist himself.
Economists do not recognize the natural world as a biological system. They see it as an endless chain of dead materiel, even as they refer to such input as ‘natural’ resources.
Stiglitz does not materially stray from the Chicago School, from the exploitative Debt Virus that is the essence of capitalism when he says, “Without growth there cannot be sustainable poverty reduction.”
Horseshit.
Poverty throughout the human population could be eliminated with one or two percent of the world’s GDP. No more starvation, uncontested epidemics, grinding wage slavery. Every human could be assured of food every day, clean water, decent shelter, and basic medical attention — the preventive kind.
For another percent of GDP, literacy could be quadrupled at the least.
But caring for ourselves, our species, and the planet we live on is not the goal of capitalism. The pathology of capitalism is to extract and exploit, and then walk away from the garbage created thereby.
While you can. It’s getting real hard to avoid the garbage anymore.
Our living biological world, the thin film of slime we call soil and water and air and ecology spread around this planet is not capable of being endlessly extracted, mined, harvested, cut, chopped, taken and the remains then abandoned as mountains of garbage. There is a natural limit, just as there is a finite measurement of the planet’s girth. A finite amount of copper, of iron, of helium, of every damned thing, and the unrestrained concentration and redistribution of all these things is hitting up against the finite limits of the living systems we call life on Earth.
There are new elements of extreme danger involved in a return to unrestrained, perpetual growth all over the world. The kind of danger an addict faces when he can’t quit no matter the consequences already experienced.
If we took the whole human species and rolled it into one human being, and took the whole ecology of this planet and rolled it into one house and backyard, and walked through it we could not help but perceive that this one human is trashing the place, shitting where he eats, killing every other species without the slightest heed, overfishing and overharvesting the soil, water, air, seas, and the rocks themselves, and is in all ways acting as if he can just move somewhere else when this house falls down.
Worst of all, he is so mismanaging his own health that he is redolent with hundreds of toxic chemical compounds he knows nothing about; they permeate his every cell and organ, and he is so poorly nourished that he is subject to every kind of affliction that a person who cared for himself could easily avoid.
And yet this human marches around with a sword in one hand and a flag in the other, stomping on whatever he can in order to prove that he can. Doing this is what floats his boat. This is what does it for him.
If this species is to survive in any health and sanity on this overused planet, the pathological pursuit of profit as a means of dealing with ourselves and our planet will have to be outgrown. Capitalism as the embodiment and sanctification of heedless greed will have to be treated as a personality disorder, not a political philosophy.
One thousand years from now, the humans on this planet will be looking first to their environment and ecology, to the thin layer of biological slime that sustains them. Just as a colony of humans traveling through interstellar space would keep their algae and soil and fungi and trees going in order to keep themselves going, the colonists currently trashing this round, blue globe — as it travels through space — are going to have to learn to live with our planet.
Not merely on it.
It’s about a lot more than America’s standing, or economics as a science, or politics, or even globalization.
It’s about making it at all.

Posted by: Antifa | Jun 16 2009 10:39 utc | 8

Ken Ballen and Patrick Doherty – Polling in Iran Shows Real Support for Ahmadinejad – washingtonpost.com

The election results in Iran may reflect the will of the Iranian people. Many experts are claiming that the margin of victory of incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was the result of fraud or manipulation, but our nationwide public opinion survey of Iranians three weeks before the vote showed Ahmadinejad leading by a more than 2 to 1 margin — greater than his actual apparent margin of victory in Friday’s election.
While Western news reports from Tehran in the days leading up to the voting portrayed an Iranian public enthusiastic about Ahmadinejad’s principal opponent, Mir Hossein Mousavi, our scientific sampling from across all 30 of Iran’s provinces showed Ahmadinejad well ahead.
Independent and uncensored nationwide surveys of Iran are rare. Typically, preelection polls there are either conducted or monitored by the government and are notoriously untrustworthy. By contrast, the poll undertaken by our nonprofit organizations from May 11 to May 20 was the third in a series over the past two years. Conducted by telephone from a neighboring country, field work was carried out in Farsi by a polling company whose work in the region for ABC News and the BBC has received an Emmy award. Our polling was funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

Posted by: Fran | Jun 16 2009 11:22 utc | 9

The McClatchy article on the Pentagon not wanting to release its investigation report on the Afghan killings “out of fear that its findings would further enrage the Afghan public” pretty much says it all about accountability.

Posted by: ensley | Jun 16 2009 12:02 utc | 10

U.S. likely to lose AAA rating: Prechter

Although U.S. banks’ recently passed government “stress tests” that assessed the adequacy of their capital levels to absorb losses and have been able to raise some capital in debt and equity markets, “the banking sector is in severe trouble,” as more loans turn bad, he said.
The economy “is obviously heading toward a depression,” despite the government’s efforts to dodge one, said Prechter.
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has not averted a re-run of the 1930s Great Depression, even though investors are becoming firmly convinced that the Fed has avoided disaster and that the economy has hit bottom.
“It’s the next leg down (in stocks) that will make it clear that these things are not true,” Prechter said.

Posted by: Outraged | Jun 16 2009 12:38 utc | 11

“What does investigation say?”
“It’s bad”
“What do you mean, “It’s bad?”
“It’s pretty bad, [half laughs, chagrined] you don’t really want to know.”
“Well, it sure wouldn’t be appropriate in polite company, really the whole thing is kind of a black-eye for us…”
“Something like that could be explosive,…”
“Exactly, are you willing to risk THAT for a scoop?”
“Yer prolly right, man being a journalist is tough”
“You should try intel, the military, we put our asses on the line.”
[Afghan woman, covered but audibly sobbing wondering how this could happen, her husband and son killed in their own country, their own yard, for shaking their fists Westward.]

Posted by: scott | Jun 16 2009 12:41 utc | 12

Some interesting graphs, brought together by Jérome à Paris: Dating the crash.

Posted by: Philippe | Jun 16 2009 13:49 utc | 13

Israeli Police and Military Brutalize Peaceful Protesters at Netanyahu’s Speech
I just talked to annie. She’s home and wasn’t at this event.

Posted by: beq | Jun 16 2009 16:52 utc | 14

antifa posted about Stigliz, quote:
He even evinces scorn for “the Chicago Boys” and their murderous school of economics (by putting quotation marks around their epithet), but he doesn’t carry his own insights to their logical conclusions — probably because he is an economist himself.
Economists do not recognize the natural world as a biological system. They see it as an endless chain of dead materiel, even as they refer to such input as ‘natural’ resources.
end quote.
Stigliz is a well meaning fellow, or appears so. The likes of Krugman, no.
People of that kind are taken up by Gvmts. and the MSM in the ‘west’ and even given Nobel prizes, have their books published, speak endlessly in public, because they provide considerations that fit within a narrow band of assumptions that are to be accepted as unquestionable, yet allow argument or dissidence within them.
Krugman, particularly.
Joe at least shares his personal experience somewhat and comes over as more genuine, make of it whatever.

Posted by: Tangerine | Jun 16 2009 17:33 utc | 15

@scott #12
that was amusing… thanks.
here are a collection of, perhaps, useful Iran links fwiw…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 16 2009 19:09 utc | 16

@beq @14 thanks for the link and update

Posted by: b | Jun 16 2009 19:41 utc | 17

More torture stories…
Khalid Shaikh says ‘I lied about link with al-Qaeda after abuse’

Posted by: a | Jun 16 2009 19:43 utc | 18

what is so strange – than when an old goat like jimmy carter speaks the truth as he did today again – when a man is expressing his troubled humanity – why does it seem like a revolutionary act. the likudniks must hate him to hell

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 16 2009 20:14 utc | 19

The sad part of that, r’giap, is that those last remaining “old goats” are about to die off, and then there will be no dissenting opinion from any establishment figures, whatsoever. Not that Carter is taken seriously. He’s merely a gnat that can be flicked away with the swat of the hand, and to “them,” the bug spray of natural death will soon rid them of this non-threatening nuisance.
I applaud Carter for speaking out, but I still find his past actions in regards to Iran and his support of the Shah, unforgivable. See Somoza and East Timor, as well.
Beyond the Myth: Remembering Jimmy Carter, the President

Posted by: Obamageddon | Jun 17 2009 13:03 utc | 20