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Links June 11 09
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Ahhh… I read only Stokes piece, not FT link. I did read it this morning, and indeed Roubini does make “Agentina crisis” comparison. I also read you Latvia links… thanks.
I’ll say this: I’ve subscribed to RGB for some years now, and Roubini has been Oracle of reality since at least ’05… well earned rep. I’ve also come to conclusion through this period of world econ meltdown, that nobody has got it all right. From everything I’ve seen, meaningful econ recovery is well down the road, particularly in US. Reasons as I see it are primarily 2 fold:
a) core causes which precipitated this “event” have not been addressed at all, primarily calling to account the fraudsters who caused this mess. If anything, they’ve been refinanced on taxpayer’s dime with little done to prevent another bubble. And DOW rise recently, AFAIC, is just that… a bubble.
b) meaningful econ activity here (US)… defining it (eg: meaningful), laying foundation to achieve it, and channeling resources to that process… just hasn’t happened. By meaningful I mean, generally, what’s most needed: energy, homegrown expertise in cutting edge sciences required to address pressing needs… hasn’t happened.
So w/that in mind, from what I see, Roubini’s recent (+/- last 6 weeks) predictions for recovery late ’09/early ’10… personally I think he’s wrong.
As I said, I read your Latvia links. I didn’t see much in either detailing what I mentioned prior, eg: nuts & bolts of their economy… what they do. I also did some poking around since yesterday morning based on comments I quoted from Stoke’s article on differences between Argentina even and current Latvian actions and, it seems to me, commenters were correct.
Roubini says in your FT link:
depreciate the currency, euroise after depreciation, restructure private foreign currency liabilities without a formal “default”, and augment the IMF plan to limit the financial fallout. It is a risky strategy but – as in Buenos Aires nine years ago – when plan A does not work it is time to move to plan B sooner rather than later.
W/out defining nuts & bolts of Latvia economy as I mentioned, what strikes me about above FT quote is huge magnitude of difference in econ/currency environment world wide now, as opposed to time of Argentinian event. Particularly, real/meaningful tech development was exploding almost exponentially, infiltrating & transforming economic processes in virtually every sector. Advances were occurring at breakneck speed, w/huge promise for all kinds of stuff which, as it turns out, was (IMO) only nominally realized.
Additionally, at that time strength of $USD was near unquestioned, China was not yet emerged, EURO was in it’s infancy and an experiment viewed w/skepticism elsewhere… everything was different.
We now have future of $USD in doubt. China has fully emerged, and it’s influence could tip scales worldwide depending on their choice of actions. Currencies around the globe are in trouble, and US has no resources left to carry their water. In short, looks very much to me as though much of western world caught in a time warp w/mindset believing “prosperity” of late ’90s >> smoke & mirror DOW rise through +/- 06 is current reality.
I don’t think it is.
As I mentioned (and has been well documented all over good WEB econ blogs), recent DOW upswing all financials & oil, real econ activity on US shores unchanged (financials as % of GDP way too high, no recovery $$ arrived for “green” energy nor commitment generated for infrastructure to support it), etc. etc.
So coming back to Latvia, as I said I’m not really up to speed on exactly what their nuts & bolts are made of. But actions they’ve taken to trim costs in big way never happened in Argentina. More explicitly, Argentina mess was initiated by forceful IMF dictates codifying hugely oppressive conglomerate international corp. profit taking guaranteed by their government, at expense of their own poplulation’s development (much like Bolivia in last few years and their resistance to same). Argentina’s economic “miracle” was a bubble waiting to happen, sold to public as fundamental wealth building when it wasn’t (much like mortgage CDS scam)…
As you said, Latvia’s econ built on private enterprise and, from little I know (but some), legitimately so. This is the stuff, IMO, the world needs and is the definition of sound morally based “free market” (as opposed to what we’ve been sold her through Bush years). Most certainly this was the case in Romania/Bulgaria w/their burgeoning, high quality & homegrown tech sectors.
The transformation in all this realigning world economies which IMO needs to happen is a recognition of doing work that matters with currency value following those achievements (or lack thereof), respectively. Rather now, as has happened leading up to current mess, it is the currency wagging the production with said currencies being manipulated in all kinds of ways to create illusions of wealth they represent. It’s bass-ackwards, leaving Wall street again poised to determine winners/losers for same reasons they sold CDS fraud, etc etc.
From what I’ve seen of Roubini lately, I’ve been of mind for several months now that his reliability on the econ future may beginning to run it’s course. Just my “finger in the wind” sense of things, hope I’m wrong.
Ok, just my $.02 USD (and falling fast)… and as usual thanks for provocative posts and meaningful insights.
Posted by: jdmckay | Jun 12 2009 13:29 utc | 12
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