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Africa Comments (6)
For b reals exhaustive coverage of Somalia and other Africa issues.
The previous Africa thread is here.
this ap headline doesn’t match up w/ what’s being reported in the article
Somali rebels threaten violent response to US arms
MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — A radical Islamic group in Somalia has threatened to seize weapons and ammunition the U.S. has supplied to the nation’s embattled government.
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The Obama’s administration’s goal is to provide the faltering Somali government with weapons and to help armies in several neighboring African nations train Somali forces. But experts have expressed concern that the arms may end up diverted to insurgent groups.
Sheik Hassan Ya’qub, a spokesman for the militant group al-Shabab in the port town of Kismayo, said late Sunday: “The weapons sent to the so-called government will only escalate violence in Somalia and we, the holy warriors, believe that we will eventually seize them.”
first, they only quote one “rebel”. second, as i pointed out before, the weapons will most likely wind up being transferred to the opposition or put on the market in mogadishu. third, the source they do quote (in kismayo, btw) warns that the increased circulation in weapons “will only escalate violence in somalia” and that they “will eventually seize them.”
the ap article goes on to add
It is unclear how al-Shabab, an extremist Islamic group fighting to overthrow the government, will follow through on its threat to seize the arms. U.S. officials said last week that the arms were supplied through the African Union force in the Somali capital, which has firm control of Mogadishu’s main air and sea port even though Al-Shabab controls other parts of Mogadishu.
well, in the past they have seized weapons & equipment by capturing and/or raiding police stations & TFG bases, disarming captured security forces, picking up what’s left behind retreating govt militias, or just waiting for the arms to eventually arrive at their doorsteps.
consider the following from the u.n. monitoring group on somalia’s 10 december, 2008 report
The government of Ethiopia informed the Monitoring Group in October 2008 that it had trained 17,000 Somali security personnel, but did not specify how many were police and how many military. Of that total, Ethiopia believes less than 3,000 may still be effective, suggesting an attrition rate of over 80 per cent. Since most soldiers who desert or defect take their weapons and uniforms with them, this represents some 14,000 new weapons entering Somali territory.
or from an article based on an earlier rpt
US, EA gunrunners violating UN’s Somalia arms ban
The United States government as well as individual Ugandans and Kenyans are violating the United Nations ban on arms trading with Somalia, a UN monitoring group charges.
Shockingly, the violations involve officers of the Uganda People’s Defence Forces peacekeeping contingent inside Somalia who are apparently selling arms back to the very same groups that are fighting them in the continuing insurgency in that war-torn country. Worse still, the UPDF top brass, despite having been informed of the allegations, appears to have done nothing about them. Nor does the African Union, under whose aegis the Ugandan troops have been deployed, appear bothered to investigate the UN group’s charges.
Also worrying is the report that arms have been smuggled into Kenya to supply an unnamed “militia group.”
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US violations are said to include a missile attack on a target inside Somalia along with “intensive and comprehensive military training” conducted inside Ethiopia for officers from the breakaway Somalia region known as Somaliland.
Ugandan military officers assigned to the African Union’s peacekeeping force in Somalia are accused of selling weapons seized from Shabaab insurgents. Many of these arms make their way back into the hands of the Shabaab, the group said in a report released a week ago.
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“According to arms traders,” the report states, “the biggest suppliers of ammunition to the markets are Ethiopian and Transitional Federal Government commanders. The Mogadishu arms markets are doing a booming business and, according to precise information received by the Monitoring Group, their clients include parties in Kenya.”
(monitoring group rpts are available here)
and then consider monday’s actions in the bakara market
Harakat Al-shabab Mujahideen forces conduct operations in Bakara market
MOGADISHU ( Sh. M. Network) – forces loyal to Harakat Al-shabab Mujahideen have conducted operations in Bakara market, the biggest market in the Somalia capital Mogadishu and discovered an expired food in the market, official told Shabelle radio on Monday.
Sheik Ali Mohamed Hussein, the chairman of Harakat Al-shabab Mujahideen for Banadir region has said that their forces performed operations in Bakara market and displayed a perished food to the journalists saying that they had already surveyed at least 5 stores of expired rations, medicines and other things.
He said that the rotten things were including flour and other things those were in many different stores in the market.
Sheik Ali warned to the businessmen in Bakara market to discover all the expired things in their business centers in the market with in 5 days calling for the restaurant and drinking centers owners to work the sanitation and beauty of the areas they work.
is it possible they could also have been searching for any of those weapons?
Posted by: b real | Jun 30 2009 5:25 utc | 7
commentary from a somali journalist
U.S. weapons to Somalia: The Disastrous Move
After all its endeavours failed to stabilize Somalia, the United States has upgraded its role of involvement to arming one side of the conflict to defeat the “radical” Alshabaab Almujahideen, an Islamist group that has taken over most of Southern Somalia soon after Ethiopian troops withdrew from the country in January and is linked to Alqaeda by Washington.
For many Somalis who have been anticipating change of policy from the new administration of Barrack Obama, this blueprint of exporting weapons to chaotic Somalia was a startling move, as it would negatively impact on the security and stability of, not only Somalia but the whole conflict-prone Horn of Africa.
From the cold war, through the collapse of the central government in 1991 to the Islamist era, Somalia has been awash with different types of arms and weapons dumped on by Cold War rivalries and feuding neighbours contending to manipulate Somali politics. The object lesson we have learnt from past arms-shipments made to Somalia was that weapons have no exclusiveness, benefiting the unintended and the favourites equally. This means weapons are commonly shared commodity in Somalia, or simply are like rented cars for all parties in Somalia, including Islamist fighters and local bandits likewise. That is apparently the fact that worries some analysts and conflict-watchers who have emerged to lament the move.
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When the international community pressed the inclusion of Islamist moderates to the feeble Transitional Federal Government (TFG), their prime objective was to isolate the radical wing of the Islamists. On contrary, the proposal rejuvenated the insurgency where various groups unified their operations to abort their imminent threat-moderate Islamist-led government.
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Why such imagination (that modern Islamist can defeat radicals) has not materialized is that the international community underestimates the dynamics of the endless insurgency. Disregard to clan affiliations and animosity towards tribalism is what props up Alshabaab and plays an important role in its recruitment.
Somalis are tired of endless conflict, bloodshed, injustice, clan-based marginalisation and global negligence invoking desperation for Sharia law which they believe could only address their suffering. (This does not necessarily mean that Somalis support Alshabaab’s strict form of Islam, but trust their loyalty).
Therefore, the revitalization of tribe issue by Sheikh Sharif with the support of international and regional powers (arming his tribal militias, reinstalling the warlords) would only undermine the legitimacy of his feeble government.
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The reason behind the government’s failure is not due to scarcity of arms and weaponry, the incompetence of the TFG could be blamed on several factors ranging from poor leadership, corruption, nepotism to lack of finance which triggers mass defection of its troops. Therefore, US weapons wouldn’t empower the TFG or tackle the insurgency until these underlying problems are solved.
The arms flow could only further worsen the situation, and would increase the number of civilian casualties depending on the nature of weapons. Uranium and white-phosphorus containing weapons could endanger the life of civilians who survived the brunt of deadly insurgency and civil war.
More over, weapons could fall into the hands of Islamist insurgents or other armed mobs which could increase the scale of the conflict and may have long term serious impact on the regional stability.
Therefore, western powers should avoid seeking their interests at the expense of innocent civilians by prioritizing counter-terrorism over human rights as it would give the culprits a cause to continue the war, because the current radicalisation in Somalia itself is the by-product of protracted international failures and counter productive policies.
Seven more civilians killed in Mogadishu
MOGADISHU(Mareeg)—At least seven civilians have been killed and five others have been wounded in fighting and shelling between government soldiers and Islamist rebels in the capital Mogadishu, witnesses said on Saturday.
Residents said two civilians have been killed in Hawlwadag district in Mogadishu after government soldiers attacked bases of Islamist rebels near presidential palace on Saturday afternoon.
“Five civilians died in a market in Hamarweyne district in Mogadishu after a mortar landed in the area,” said Hassan Moalin, a resident in Hamarweyne.
Another journalist killed in Mogadishu fighting
MOGADISHU, Somalia July 4 (Garowe Online) – At least five people including a journalist were killed Saturday in the Somali capital Mogadishu on the fourth consecutive day of fighting, Radio Garowe reports.
Journalist Mohamed Yusuf “Ninile” worked for Noble Qur’an Radio, known locally by its Somali acronym IQK [Idaacada Quraanka Kariimka].
A reporter who worked with Mr. Ninile said the late radio journalist was “shot from the distance” by unidentified gunmen in Yaaqshiid district, where pro-government forces and insurgents fought today.
Two civilians were killed in the crossfire alongside the journalist, witnesses said. He became the sixth journalist to be killed in Somalia since the beginning of 2009.
Separately, two more civilians died in fighting in Mogadishu’s Howlwadaag district and five others were wounded. …
At least 30 people have been killed in f our days of fighting in Mogadishu. But some unconfirmed reports said the death toll could be as high as 90 deaths.
U.S. pledges increased military support to Somalia
The United States said on Saturday it would increase its military assistance to Somalia to help the transitional government restore sanity and the rule of law in the war-ravaged Horn of Africa nation.
Addressing a news conference in Nairobi, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Africa Affairs Johnnie Carson also said the Obama administration has recently provided 10 million dollars as parts of Washington’s contribution to the African Union mission in Somalia (AMISOM).
Carson said that the funds would compliment the efforts of the pan-African military force to support a strong government in Somalia.
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“The U.S. is glad that the Africa Union and IGAD (the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development) did take up the issue of Somalia at the Summit in Libya and have taken a strong stance on the issue under their wings for close and careful consideration,” said Carson.
“The U.S. will continue to look for ways of providing support to the TFG (Transitional Federal Government)… This will include military support in terms of arms and material resources but not manpower.”
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He said he went to the just concluded AU Summit particularly to meet IGAD leaders and Somali President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed whom he assured of Washington’s continued support for the Djibouti-led peace process.
“This is the view that is held by the IGAD states with an exception of Eritrea and the U.S. would continue to work as effectively as well with states within the region to help Sheikh Sharif … to support the AMISOM that is on the ground in Somalia,” he said.
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Carson also called for urgent deployment of additional troops to Somalia to help prop up security to the war-torn country and urged the international community to lend a hand in securing peace in the country.
He however, said Washington is glad that Burundi has promised to send a third battalion as soon as possible to Somalia to help shore up the government.
“Most of the equipment and supplies are already in Mogadishu. The government of Burundi has also indicated that it’s prepared to provide some military support in terms of manpower to aid AMISOM,” he said.
The U.S. envoy said the Djibouti Process must be supported to bring peace to the region.
He also confirmed the United States is providing military aid to Somalia’s government to help it repel an onslaught by Islamist rebels. He noted the move followed an urgent call for help from the fledgling government, which has been fighting Islamist militias.
oh bullshit – see the DoS briefing & backgrounder linked in the last africa thread where the state dept openly admits this has been ongoing since may (and which has covertly been going on for much longer than that)
Posted by: b real | Jul 5 2009 5:19 utc | 22
jony_b_cool – that’s why i was earlier calling him “johnnie no-change” – he even admitted as much in his confirmation hearing
At the hearings Carson, a former US ambassador to Kenya, Uganda and Zimbabwe, had a simple explanation why the status quo will not change much — Washington’s Africa policy has traditionally reflected consensus among Republicans and Democrats, he said, and he wanted to continue that bipartisan approach.
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Officials say ‘they will attack the TFG and Ethiopian troops in Hiran region’
BELEDWEYN (Sh. M. Network) –former pro government Islamic Courts Union officials who left their offices Saturday have said Sunday that they will attack both TFG and Ethiopian troops in the Beledweyn region in central Somalia.
Sheik Abdinasir Jalil, a former commander of the training for ICU administration in Beledweyn town [who] joined Hisbul Islam organization said that they will assault the transitional government officials in the town and also the Ethiopian troops whom he said they are in El-gal village 18 kilometers out of Beledweyn town.
He said that the government officials want to bring Ethiopian troops inside town accusing them that they are having friendly relation with Ethiopia pointing out that it was what compelled them the announce the attack.
given the widespread reporting on the decision at the summit this past week not to expand AMISOM’s mandate, this is an interesting claim from the TFG2’s PM
AMISOM Troops to Fight alongside TFG Troops
MOGADISHU (HOL) – Somalia’s Transitional Federal Government said today that AMISOM troops will begin to fight alongside its troops from now. Until now, AMISOM troops have limited their operations to guarding few strategic places in the city including the sea and air ports as well as the Presidential Palace.
Speaking at a press conference held in Mogadishu, the Prime Minister of the TFG Mr. Omar Abdirashid Sharma-arke said that in the coming hours, AMISOM troops will begin to fight alongside the TFG troops to support the TFG troops in defeating Islamic insurgents who have been gaining strength lately.
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The Prime Minister also said that the number of AMISOM troops will soon be increased to 8,000 and that this decision was taken at the AU leaders meeting last week in Sirte, Libya.
Prime minister says AU troops will defend the government
MOGADISHU(Mareeg)—Somalia’s prime minister Omar Abdirashid Sharmarke told reporters on Sunday that the African Union troops in Mogadishu known as AMISOM will take part the fighting against the Islamist rebels and defend the government.
Speaking to the reporters in his house in Mogadishu the prime minister said more AU troops were expected soon to back his forces but gave no further details.
and speaking of wild claims by TFG2 officials, the telegraph picks up this (desperate) propaganda & runs w/ it
Pirates ‘smuggling al-Qaeda fighters’ into Somalia
The Taliban-style Shabab group , which has already siezed control of much of the lawless nation, has enlisted the pirates’ services to smuggle in al-Qaeda fighters from across the Middle East, according to Somali government ministers. They claim that up to 1,000 have arrived in recent months, swelling the ranks of the Shabab in its bid to topple the fragile US-backed administration in Mogadishu.
The warning was issued by Somali’s first deputy prime minister, Professor Abdulrahman Adan Ibrahim, during a visit to London last week. He is lobbying for Britain and other Western countries to give more financial help to stamp out the piracy problem along the country’s vast 2,000 mile coastline.
The Shabab are requesting the pirates to bring people in for them,” Prof Ibrahim told The Sunday Telegraph. “Somalia’s borders with neighbouring countries are now tightly policed, so the only corridor for them is via the sea. The pirates smuggle them, and if anybody stops them, they just say they are passing fishermen.”
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“We are not saying that the Shabab is actually sending out their own people to do pirate operations,” he said. “But we think they share some mutual interests with the pirates. The pirate gangs are bribing the Shabab not to attack them, and the Shabab are getting the pirates to bring in fighters.”
Prof Ibrahim is now attempting to persuade the British government and others to provide funding to train a new, 1,000 strong version of the defunct Somali navy. The navy’s commander-in-chief, Farah Ahmed Omar, has no boats at present, and has not put to sea in 23 years. But the government argues that building up a local force – backed by land units – will be a more effective long-term solution against the pirates than the international naval fleet offshore.
The picture painted by Prof Ibrahim of terrorists hitching rides in pirate skiffs across the Gulf of Aden is not universally accepted. Somali politicians have been accused of exaggerating the threat from al-Qaeda in the past, knowing that it wins the attention of Western governments in a way that clan feuding does not.
Posted by: b real | Jul 6 2009 5:31 utc | 25
jony_b_cool – here’s obama buttering up africans on the ‘good governance’ rhetoric in an outreach interview @ all-africa
U.S. Wants to Spotlight ‘Successful Models’ And Be An ‘Effective Partner’ – Obama
We asked visitors to our site, allAfrica.com, what they might be interested in with respect to your policy. And as you might imagine, the responses are everywhere: conflict resolution, development issues, trade issues, et cetera. But they and we have one immediate question: How is it that you happened to pick Ghana as the first place to visit in sub-Saharan Africa?
Well, part of the reason is because Ghana has now undergone a couple of successful elections in which power was transferred peacefully, even a very close election. I think that the new president, President Mills, has shown himself committed to the rule of law, to the kinds of democratic commitments that ensure stability in a country. And I think that there is a direct correlation between governance and prosperity. Countries that are governed well, that are stable, where the leadership recognizes that they are accountable to the people and that institutions are stronger than any one person have a track record of producing results for the people. And we want to highlight that.
And I assume that you’d like to see a lot more ‘Ghanas’ in Africa. And part of your policy would be, I assume, to encourage that.
Absolutely.
for the other, more realistic part of the reason, here’s a press release from Gold Star Resources Corp – a company i know nothing of other than that there was a similar press release of thiers that i linked to recently in the previous africa thread
Obama’s Ghana Trip Linked To New U.S. Oil Strategy on African Continent, says Gold Star Resources CEO
VANCOUVER, July 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ — “U.S. President Barack Obama’s trip to Ghana on July 10th-11th is a subtle White House oil strategy to secure another source of energy on the continent of Africa,” says Patrick Morris, Chief Executive Officer of Gold Star Resources Corp. Gold Star Resources is a Vancouver-based company seeking high-impact ‘onshore’ oil and gas opportunities in Liberia, Cote d’Ivoire and Ghana in West Africa.
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According to Morris, “The U.S. Department of Energy has already confirmed that the United States will be importing over 770 million barrels of African oil annually by the year 2020. The U.S. National Intelligence Council is projecting that 25 percent of U.S. oil imports will come from West Africa by 2015 compared to 15% today. My own professional experience tells me that the political stability of Ghana’s government, a credible democratic political party system, and a positive investment environment all favor closer ties to Ghanaians by the Obama White House.”
Morris also pointed out that he’s confident that President Obama “will work with the Ghana Government and people to help them realize their own potential through job creation in the energy resource sector. I believe that Africa has seen but a glimpse of its potential in oil and gas discoveries in West Africa. The new U.S. President has obviously taken notice of this fact.”
“Obama’s Ghana trip is a smart game plan to strengthen U.S. ties with its West African allies and create new alliances that would ultimately secure U.S. energy interests on the African continent,” concluded Morris.
back to the interview, obama give his position on why economies haven’t prospered in africa – get this
I would say that the international community has not always been as strategic as it should have been, but ultimately I’m a big believer that Africans are responsible for Africa.
I think part of what’s hampered advancement in Africa is that for many years we’ve made excuses about corruption or poor governance; that this was somehow the consequence of neo-colonialism, or the West has been oppressive, or racism. I’m not a believer in excuses.
I’d say I’m probably as knowledgeable about African history as anybody who’s occupied my office. And I can give you chapter and verse on why the colonial maps that were drawn helped to spur on conflict, and the terms of trade that were uneven emerging out of colonialism.
And yet the fact is we’re in 2009. The West and the United States has not been responsible for what’s happened to Zimbabwe’s economy over the last 15 or 20 years. It hasn’t been responsible for some of the disastrous policies that we’ve seen elsewhere in Africa. I think that it’s very important for African leadership to take responsibility and be held accountable.
And I think the people of Africa understand that. The problem is that they just haven’t always had the opportunities to organize and voice their opinions in ways that create better results.
sure thing – just like obama’s construct that racism is thing of the past in the u.s. (assuming everyone wants to assimilate into the dominator culture, right), the fact that africans haven’t successfully adopted the western model can’t be blamed on the west b/c colonialism itself is ancient history
Posted by: b real | Jul 10 2009 5:12 utc | 28
yet another rumour of aweys negotiating w/ the TFG2. i’ll believe it only when aweys publicly acknowledges it.
Egypt ‘to mediate’ between Sharif and Aweys
MOGADISHU, Somalia July 9 (Garowe Online) – The chairman of Somali Islamist rebel faction Hizbul Islam has accepted peace talks with the country’s U.N.-backed interim government, Radio Garowe reports Thursday.
Hizbul Islam chief Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys has reportedly accepted peace talks after discussions with Egyptian government officials, who have been leading efforts to mediate between Sheikh Aweys and President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed.
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A member of Hizbul Islam, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told Radio Garowe that Sheikh Aweys “has accepted any agreement to end the war in Mogadishu.” But the source did not elaborate whether or not Sheikh Aweys’ hardliner position against the presence of African Union peacekeepers has changed.
An Egyptian government official was quoted as saying that Sheikh Aweys has agreed to make peace with “his former friend,” President Sheikh Sharif.
Arab League official Samir Husni told reporters in Cairo that Arab states would fund peace talks among Somali Islamist leaders to end the years-long bloody insurgency in south-central Somalia, especially in Mogadishu.
here’s more from al-sharq al-awsat
Rebel Source Deny Knowledge of Egypt`s Initiative To Solve Crisis
On his part, Somali Foreign Minister Muhammad Abdallah Umar– who recently met the Egyptian foreign minister`s assistant in Cairo –denied there is a clearly-defined and clear Egyptian initiative, said this meeting did not deal with any details of such a thing, and noted that the discussions were general and about how to solve the current Somali crisis and find a solution for the growing phenomenon of sea piracy off Somali coasts. The Somali minister did not only make this denial but also asserted to “Al-Sharqal-Awsat” by telephone from New York, which he is visiting to take part in a UN Security Council meeting today to discuss current developments in Somalia, that achievement of peace and reconciliation does not require holding conferences or foreign mediations to bring the Somali parties abroad to the negotiating table. He asked: “Why do we need a foreign initiative when all those concerned with the crisis are now inside the Somali capital Mogadishu!” He added: “Shaykh Hasan Tahir Uways, leader of the Islamic Party, or the leaders of the Youth movement who represent the hard-line Islamic groups seeking to overthrow the transitional authority led by Shaykh Sharif, needs only to make a local telephone call to inform us of their desire for dialogue.” He then noted that “the cost of this call is not more than 10 American cents. They do not even need to dial the international 00 number before completing the call. The matter is quite simple. They would have done this if they were serious about negotiations and solving the crisis. We are ready to respond immediately.”
But the Somali foreign minister has apparently to wait along time before this contact is made as the Islamic rebels do not seem interested in the proposal. An official in the (opposition) Islamic Party told “Al-Sharq al-Awsat”: “We are not interested in what this or any other official is proposing.” Regarding the Egyptian initiative, the official — who asked to remain unidentified – said in a telephone call from somewhere inside Mogadishu: “We heard about this from the media but we do not have any ideas on it. No one has contacted us about it.”
and speaking of making shit up, abu mansour al amriki again in another SITE release
Purported American Member Of Somali Terror Group Blasts Obama
WASHINGTON, July 08, 2009 (AFP)–A purported American member of a Somali terror group blasted U.S. President Barack Obama’s speech last month to the Muslim world, a monitoring group said Wednesday.
The man was identified as “Abu Mansour the American” and said in a 27-minute video released to jihadist forums that peace could only be reached if Washington disengages from Muslim nations like Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia, according to the U.S.-based SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors extremist cells.
“How dare you send greetings to the Muslim world while thousands of Muslims are being detained in your facilities,” said Abu Mansour, speaking in English.
“And how dare you send greetings to the Muslims while you are bombing our brothers and sisters in Afghanistan?”
Abu Mansour appeared in March in a propaganda video by the militant Somali Islamist group Shebab. The video was aimed at foreign recruits, and featured English rapping and songs.
b/c everyone knows how much islamic fundamentalists appreciate western music & culture
Wednesday’s video contains only a still image of Abu Mansour, who appeared to be in his late 20s or 30s. During his speech it also shows still images of three other men identified as Americans – “Abu Hurriya the American,” “Burhan the American” and “Dahir the American.
and speaking of americans in somalia
REMARKS BY AMBASSADOR SUSAN E. RICE, U.S. PERMANENT REPRESENTATIVE TO THE UNITED NATIONS, DURING A SECURITY COUNCIL DEBATE ON SOMALIA
The United States remains committed to several goals in Somalia: first, supporting Somalia`s Transitional Federal Government in its battle against al-Shabaab and other violent extremists; second, bolstering the African Union Mission in Somalia; third, helping the TFG establish itself as a legitimate and stable government that can control its territory and provide basic services to its citizens; fourth, partnering with the international community to ease the suffering of the Somali people; and fifth, battling the scourge of piracy off the Somali coast.
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Without our support, Somalia risks becoming a lasting safe haven and training ground for those plotting terrorist attacks around the world.
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My government has also provided more than $135 million in training, equipment, and logistical support to AMISOM since the mission`s creation. But more still must be done.
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It is no secret that al-Shabaab has been bolstered by al-Qaeda operatives and by the hundreds of foreign fighters that have been pouring into Somalia. [proof? if it’s no secret, then there must be publicly-available proof. where is it?] We must all do a better job of stemming the flow of extremists, arms, and financial support into Somalia. [start w/ yourselves]
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..all of us can see that paying ransom perpetuates acts of piracy. The United States does not offer concessions to hostage-takers, whether they are driven by political or financial motives. And we encourage other states to take a similar position. We would, in particular, be interested in forming a group of so called, “no concession” states to work together to slow the rise of piracy off the Somali coast. Mr. President, the United States looks forward to continuing to work with the UN and all member states to finally forge a stable, secure, and more prosperous Somalia. [after the islamist factions have been eliminated by each other & the islamic revolution is neutralized, of course]
Posted by: b real | Jul 10 2009 6:02 utc | 30
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