Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 4, 2009
Links May 4 09
  • War preparation campaign –
    Pakistan Strife Raises U.S. Doubts on Nuclear Arms – (NYT)
  • More war preparations – Pakistan’s Islamic Schools Fill Void, but Fuel Militancy – (NYT)
  • Even more war preparations – Pakistan Says Islamic Court Fulfills Deal With Taliban – (NYT)
  • Contrasting reality check – Pepe Escobar – The myth of Talibanistan – (ATOL)
  • Retreat – Captured Afghanistan outpost torn down – Hard-won ground given up in change of priorities
    – (Globe&Mail)
  • Manga Wars – Nationalism and Anti-Americanism in Japan – (Japan Focus)
  • Maybe even longer – U.S. has a 45-year history of torture – (LAT)
  • No – Is the Darfur bloodshed genocide? – (LAT)
  • Nassim Nicholas Taleb – Too Big to Fail, Hidden Risks, and the Fallacy of Large Institutions – (NYU Poly Institute)
  • 'How an American in Holland learned to love the European welfare state.' – Going Dutch – (NYT)
  • Krugman – Falling Wage Syndrome – (NYT)

Please share your links, news and views in the comments.

Comments

Please share your links, news and views in the comments.
I mean no disrespect b, but what’s the use sharing views and commentary if every time a discussion gets going, (see for example anna missed and DOS from the other ‘links’ post) you throw up another ‘links’ post? And then everyone seems to gravitate toward the new one, leaving the last one. It reminds me of an at best, subtle but implied presence to move along. At worst, a normative influence or an unconscious public compliance. In short, stratified compartmentalization.
Compartmentalization of which I have excessively bitched about. Compartmentalization, which is a form of Informational social influence.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 4 2009 7:58 utc | 1

WRT Going Dutch. Such admirable people, but Americans don’t know how to be. Just reading the article pings an atavistic urge to run away from home.

Posted by: rjj | May 4 2009 9:27 utc | 2

**Maybe even longer – U.S. has a 45-year history of torture **
maybe even longer……

Posted by: denk | May 4 2009 10:05 utc | 3

Great article about Israel Lobby anti-Iranian efforts (I suggest to check all the links).
Interview with Gareth Porter.

Posted by: andrew | May 4 2009 10:59 utc | 4

@1 Not to get all meta about it, but threads get hard to follow when they’re long, and interested individuals stick around when an argument gets going. I cannot see our Dear Leader intentionally suppressing any of the excellent anarchy here.

Posted by: …—… | May 4 2009 12:42 utc | 5

this is an occult analysis of Eyes Wide Shut i ran across yesterday. for anyone who is interested in that sort of thing, it’s a good read.

Posted by: Lizard | May 4 2009 13:55 utc | 6

Buying brand Obama.
Mubarak meets Netanyahu.

Posted by: andrew | May 4 2009 14:16 utc | 7

institute for anarchist studies

The following four essays provide a retrospective look at the life and work of Murray Bookchin … written by people who were in one way or another connected to Murray’s life and work. Brian Tokar surveys Murray’s vast contribution to radical environmental thought. He reminds us of how far ahead of the rest of the world Murray’s ideas were, and also of how much they still have to offer a movement that frequently loses its radical edge in favor of accommodation with the very social forces that ground our antagonistic relationship with the Earth in the first place.
Next, John Clarke takes up Murray’s well-known attack on contemporary anarchist practice, specifically his charge that anarchism as it exists in contemporary society has moved towards a shallow sort of individualism. Clarke’s discussion is highly critical, but offers just the sort of intellectual and argumentative ferment that Murray reveled in.
Chaia Heller offers a personal reflection on her many years as a close colleague of Murray’s. She reflects on him both as a thinker and as a friend, offering us images of how we might move forward in the work to which he devoted his life, drawing political lessons as much from the nature of the friendship as from the ideas in his books.
Finally, Chuck Morse, a student and comrade of Murray, offers a detailed and at times highly critical look at his organizing strategy. Though informed by Chuck’s deep understanding of Murray’s theoretical vision, the focus is on the ways Murray sought to institutionalize that vision, with the ultimate conclusion that it was deeply flawed.

Posted by: b real | May 4 2009 14:50 utc | 8

The China Hand Betancourt analysis was informative and stimulating.
Is it “no coincidence” that “[Victor] Bout was arrested in Bangkok, Thailand on 6 March 2008—five days after the Colombian government found FARC leader Raúl Reyes’s computers” as Wikipedia asserts, or is it
“no coincidence” that the usually “safely orthodox” Wiki-gatekeepers allow that fact to slip into its Bout biography? Could it be that Bout’s unforgiveable sin was to be not merely a reliable delivery agent for the clandestine arms shipments from the “authorized players” in this murderous game, but also agent for non-authorized but significant rivals in the African and South Asian arms bazaars? Put briefly, is Bout demonized because he and his suppliers cut into the profits of Western arms dealers, including, of course, those of both the U.S. and Israel?
Meanwhile, westwind10 has uploaded some interesting videos relative to the Bout controversy at youtube.
The one linked to above is quite striking, involves brief glimpses of a figure who seems to be Bout, and is accompanied by the following description

One of Victor Bouts aircraft was leased to an Airline called Aerostan, that aircraft was hijacked by the Taliban over Kandahar and remained captured along with the crew for 11 months. An escape plan was prepared and executed over the period of 6 month, at the end of which the aircraft was able to escape with the crew unharmed, and three terrorist were also captured and delivered to the authority in UAE where the aircraft landed. This is the only video showing the aircraft landing in UAE after escaped.
Funny that Douglas Farah and the other Bush-type experts alleged that Victor was a friend and sold arms to the Taliban. This video also affirms the information published by Chichakli on his website about this matter back in 2005.

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There are some others of interest at the same site, including one from Russia Today TV in which one of Bout’s major assailants is reported to deny that he ever asserted that Bout was LEGALLY guilty, rather than MORALLY guilty. Unfortunately, I found the sound for that clip the sound to be unintelligible, so if anyone finds a clearer version
I would be greatful for a link to it.
It goes without saying that the matters discussed above have not yet been subjected to the complete rigors of a legal procedure, although the Bout extradition proceedings in Thailand may be a major step in that direction. So far, the latter seems far from being an open and shut case.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | May 4 2009 15:05 utc | 9

Watch AIPAC conference videos here:
http://www.aipac.org/2841.asp
It’s all about Iran…

Posted by: Anthony | May 4 2009 15:10 utc | 10

Occult analysis of Eyes Wide Shut? Give me a break, who needs this Art Bell crap? Institute for Anarchist Studies? What a crock. With such distractions who needs to face reality?

Posted by: euclidcreek | May 4 2009 17:10 utc | 11

Here’s incontrovertible proof that mad Christians and mad Muslims (not to mention mad Jews) deserve each other. I wish they would all kill each other and leave the rest of us alone.
Jeremy Scahill
Posted May 4, 2009 | 11:45 AM (EST)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeremy-scahill/us-soldiers-in-afghanista_b_195639.html
US Soldiers in Afghanistan Told to “Hunt People for Jesus… So We Get Them into the Kingdom” (Video)
Military officials at Bagram are caught on tape urging US soldiers to evangelize in the Muslim country.
New video evidence has surfaced showing that US military forces in Afghanistan have been instructed by the military’s top chaplain in the country to “hunt people for Jesus” as they spread Christianity to the overwhelmingly Muslim population. Soldiers also have imported bibles translated into Pashto and Dari, the two dominant languages of Afghanistan. What’s more, the center of this evangelical operation is at the huge US base at Bagram, one of the main sites used by the US military to torture and indefinitely detain prisoners.
In a video obtained by Al Jazeera and broadcast Monday, Lieutenant-Colonel Gary Hensley, the chief of the US military chaplains in Afghanistan, is seen telling soldiers that as followers of Jesus Christ, they all have a responsibility “to be witnesses for him.”
“The special forces guys – they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down,” he says.
“Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That’s what we do, that’s our business.”
The translated Bibles appear to be the New Testament. According to Al Jazeera, US soldiers “had them specially printed and shipped to Afghanistan.” On the tape, one soldier describes how his church in the US helped raise money for the bibles. Al Jazeera reports that “What these soldiers have been doing may well be in direct violation of the US Constitution, their professional codes and the regulations in place for all forces in Afghanistan.” The US military officially forbids “proselytising of any religion, faith or practice.” But, as Al Jazeera reports:
[T]he chaplains appear to have found a way around the regulation known as General Order Number One.
“Do we know what it means to proselytise?” Captain Emmit Furner, a military chaplain, says to the gathering.
“It is General Order Number One,” an unidentified soldier replies.
But Watt says “you can’t proselytise but you can give gifts.”
Trying to convert Muslims to any other faith is a crime in Afghanistan. The fact that the video footage is being broadcast on Al Jazeera guarantees that it will be seen throughout the Muslim world. It is likely to add more credence to the perception that the US is engaging in a war on Islam with neo-crusader forces invading Muslim lands.
Former Afghan prime minister Ahmed Shah Ahmedzai told Al Jazeera there must be a “serious investigation,” saying, “This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties.” Sayed Aalam Uddin Asser, of the Islamic Front for Peace and Understanding in Kabul, told the network: “It’s a national security issue … our constitution says nothing can take place in Afghanistan against Islam. If people come and propaganda other religions which have no followers in Afghanistan [then] it creates problems for the people, for peace, for stability.”
A US military spokesperson, Major Jennifer Willis, denied that the US military has allowed its soldiers to attempt to convert Afghans and said comments from sermons filmed at Bagram were taken out of context. She said the bibles were never distributed. “That specific case involved a soldier who brought in a donation of translated bibles that were sent to his personal address by his home church. He showed them to the group and the chaplain explained that he cannot distribute them,” she said. “The translated bibles were never distributed as far as we know, because the soldier understood that if he distributed them he would be in violation of general order 1, and he would be subject to punishment.”
The video footage was shot about a year ago by documentary filmmaker Brian Hughes, who is also a former US soldier. “[US soldiers] weren’t talking about learning how to speak Dari or Pashto, by reading the Bible and using that as the tool for language lessons,” Hughes told Al Jazeera. “The only reason they would have these documents there was to distribute them to the Afghan people. And I knew it was wrong, and I knew that filming it … documenting it would be important.”
The broadcast of this video comes just days after a new poll of White Americans found that, in the US, church going Christians are more likely to support the use of torture than other segments of the population. The Pew Research Center poll found: “White evangelical Protestants were the religious group most likely to say torture is often or sometimes justified — more than six in 10 supported it. People unaffiliated with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only four in 10 of them did.”
This is certainly not the first scandal where US military forces or officials have been caught on tape promoting an evangelical Christian agenda. Perhaps the most high-profile case involved Lieut. Gen. William Boykin, who was a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence under Bush. Boykin was part of Donald Rumsfeld’s inner circle at the Pentagon where he was placed in charge of hunting “high-value targets.” Boykin was one of the key U.S. officials in establishing what critics alleged was death-squad-type activity in Iraq.
In October 2003, Boykin was revealed to have gone on several anti-Muslim rants, in public speeches, many of which he delivered in military uniform. Since January 2002, Boykin had spoken at twenty-three religious-oriented events, wearing his uniform at all but two. Among Boykin’s statements, he said he knew the U.S. would prevail over a Muslim adversary in Somalia because “I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.” Boykin also charged that Islamic radicals want to destroy America “because we’re a Christian nation” that “will never abandon Israel.” Our “spiritual enemy,” Boykin declared, “will only be defeated if we come against them in the name of Jesus.”
As for President Bush, Boykin said, “Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. Why is he there? And I tell you this morning that he’s in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this.” In another speech, Boykin said other countries “have lost their morals, lost their values. But America is still a Christian nation.” He told a church group in Oregon that special operations forces were victorious in Iraq because of their faith in God. “Ladies and gentlemen, I want to impress upon you that the battle that we’re in is a spiritual battle,” he said. “Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army.”

Watch Al Jazeera’s report here.

Posted by: Parviz | May 4 2009 18:19 utc | 12

Occult analysis of Eyes Wide Shut? Give me a break, who needs this Art Bell crap? Institute for Anarchist Studies? What a crock. With such distractions who needs to face reality?
that’s really constructive, euclidcreek, thanks for the feedback. maybe instead of acting like a fuck you could provide your own links/content to show us how a brave person like yourself faces reality, because obviously we don’t face reality at this bar enough.

Posted by: Lizard | May 4 2009 18:33 utc | 13

Lizard-
I was going to comment on your link at 6 (nice number for an occult link, eh?) but I was only able to read half it before I got busy with other crap… Love this stuff!
I couldn’t even begin to tell you what he’s talking about… at least I wouldn’t want to try, but what a fun read. WWWiz reminds me a bit of Ignatius J. Reilly from A Confederacy of Dunces… I have a feeling he wouldn’t mind the comparison.
His sort of writing is somewhere between prose, rant and a science fiction novel. I enjoy the kookiness of it and I love the ‘net because of guys like him.
Thanks for the link Lizard… and as you said, rather than being critical of someone’s post, add a link that might help us better perceive the reality that fascinates you.
But then I used to like listening to Art Bell while driving around late at night in the taxi waiting for something to happen so maybe the problem is me.

Posted by: DavidS | May 4 2009 20:38 utc | 14

And Parviz, good to see your post. I’d have to agree with your words at the top of 12…

Posted by: DavidS | May 4 2009 20:43 utc | 15

excerpt from Arab Woman’s Blues (iraqi blog) May 1, 2009.
Iraq’s underworld
(…)
All of the stories report widespread use of horrific torture methods. Common torture methods across the country are : electrocution, being hanged by hooks from the ceilings, sleep deprivation, food deprivation, isolation, made to listen to torture from other cells, beatings, crammed space – one example 150 inmates in one cell of 3 by 8 meters, amputating fingers, amputation of limbs following torture, pulling nails and teeth, burning with cigarettes and acid, blinding one eye, drilling extremities…and rape including gang rape of male prisoners was commonly reported. One example given was in the space of one day 45 policemen raped around 100 detainees. Rape includes the forcing of bottles in the anus. This was a common theme that came up in every single story. I will devote a separate paragraph to the secret women’s prison.
also:
The age range of the prisoners is from as young as 13 to as old as 70. As I said the great majority are not charged with anything and have had no access to any formal trial.
link

Posted by: Tangerine | May 4 2009 20:43 utc | 16

If your reality is an occult interpretation and anarchist studies, post away Mr. Lizard. Hey, many people love American Idol too. I consider it a waste of time. Now go back to your ouija board.

Posted by: euclidcreek | May 4 2009 20:43 utc | 17

sorry link does not work, here is the blog, scroll down to may 1:
link
or
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Tangerine | May 4 2009 20:53 utc | 18

Obama and Gitmo. Not good. via anti-war com.
A Start on Guantánamo, but Not Enough
by Andy Worthington, May 04, 2009
link

Posted by: Tangerine | May 4 2009 20:57 utc | 19

euclidcreek: your comments are a waste of time, and you are obviously confused; i didn’t post the anarchist studies link, our prolific contributor, b real, supplied that particular link.
my advise to you is stop trying to impose your limited, subjective concept of “reality” on others until you have a little more substance to offer. personally, i don’t discount any interpretation of reality; i try to stay open minded about the myriad forces at play on this spinning rock we inhabit. you must have let your imagination atrophy, which might explain why you feel the need to make fun of others for being interested in fringe topics you find pointless.
DavidS: i love confederacy of dunces. if you like sci-fi, the article i linked to mentions Philip K. Dick’s book VALIS, which is a mindfuck, like most of his work.

Posted by: Lizard | May 4 2009 22:03 utc | 20

Mr. Lizard, I would never try to impose my limited, subjective concept of “realty” on anyone. Live and let live I say. Now I must return to the citadel of shadows, and tea with Mr. Crowley and Mr. Hubbard. You are invited.

Posted by: euclidcreek | May 4 2009 22:19 utc | 21

since there are readers here now that weren’t around a few years back, here is a link to one of MoA’s bookchin threads, led by citizen, that stimulated alot of discussion & more

Posted by: b real | May 4 2009 22:22 utc | 22

thanks b real, good reminder of what conversations used to be like. it was especially interesting to see how slothrop used to actually participate. the conversations these days certainly seem less dynamic, but maybe that’s my newbie perspective, colored today by some shitcreek joker. dunno.

Posted by: Lizard | May 4 2009 22:57 utc | 23

Looking at this quote by Abe Lincoln, one will quickly realize that Obama is far from being a latter-day Lincoln:
“LABOR is prior to and independent of CAPITAL. CAPITAL is only the fruit of LABOR, and could never have existed if LABOR had not first existed. LABOR is the supporter of CAPITAL, and deserves the higher consideration.”
Because Obama has shown time and time again to support capital over labor, by letting capitalist pig out at the trough, leaving laborers to fight like hungry birds over a few measly crumbs, Obama would transpose the words “LABOR” and “CAPITAL” from this quote to read:
“CAPITAL is prior to and independent of LABOR. LABOR is only fruit of CAPITAL, and could never have existed if CAPITAL had not first existed. CAPITAL is the supporter of LABOR, and deserves the higher consideration.”
So if anything, Obama is Lincoln’s evil twin.

Posted by: Cynthia | May 4 2009 23:30 utc | 24

Today a buddy slipped into town and slunk into my place. He told me a tale of passing a guy with one of those graphics of Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes) urinating upon the word Obama… and a couple of smaller ones of the same figure doing the same thing to the word hippies…
That particular buddy took exception to these stickers and gave the kid in the truck the middle finger wave of disapproval which of course pissed the kid off.
The kid tried to get my buddy to pull off so they could settle-up like men… Feces, I should add my buddy is about 60 and something of a hippy himself, but ironically he wasn’t all that upset about the hippy stickers as he was about the one advocating pissing on the president.
Talk about swallowing the story.., this guy is suddenly yammering on like some right-wing patriot kook about how wrong it is to do that to a president… you wouldn’t want to hear what he was advocating doing to the previous president a scant few months ago, so I found his sudden transition odd.
He thinks the ground Obama walks is hallowed and talking about politics to him is like, well, like talking to the anti-Limbaugh and not in a good way.
What does this mean? Nothing, but I figured it might be an interesting moment of note to social scientist… a hippy pissed-off at a redneck for a political sticker just strikes me as sort of upside down and backwards.
Lizard- Thanks again for that link… WOW! I’ve never even seen EWS but what an interesting deconstruction of it. There were some very lucid points about the way Kubrick uses deep symbolism… the whole concept of 9/11 as a mystical death of an age is compelling and crazy too. Great weird link… Kind of makes my mind feel like I’ve run one of those fancy geometric screen savers over it for about two hours.
This is how I feel when I have the mind space to focus on b real’s link to The Society of the Spectacle Unlike the WWWiz, and his verbose prose, this piece is sparse in words which requires a lot of thinking on my part. I’m still wading through this weeks after I’ve bookmarked the place.

Posted by: DavidS | May 5 2009 0:28 utc | 25

Ah Mr Lizard, ruffled your feathers? Be seeing you.

Posted by: euclidcreek | May 5 2009 0:49 utc | 26

UK Independent: China’s quake cover-up
Families seeking justice [money] for child victims are being intimidated by the state, alleges Amnesty [International]

The number of children who perished has never been released officially, but some estimates put it at around 10,000 – out of a death toll of 80,000. More than 8,000 families lost their only child in the disaster, with angry parents blaming shoddy building – or “tofu construction” – for their loss.
Despite an initial openness in allowing foreign media to witness the aftermath of the quake, when public anger in China rose over badly built schoolhouses, the shutdown was swift and accusations of corruption were met with a stony silence.

Posted by: plushtown | May 5 2009 2:26 utc | 27

“Michael Ceraolo may be the most versatile poet writing in America today—from the intense insights of his ‘Cleveland Haiku’ to the epic history, human and geologic, which he manages with such sustained attention in ‘Euclid Creek.’ Ceraolo celebrates and embraces his urban landscape with tough love and with compassionate outrage shows us profound beauty beneath surface squalor, as the literal creek flows ‘underneath industrial streets . . .where the gray concrete of the roads and bridges/ and the gray birds groveling on the gray sidewalks/ and the gray gravel and gray piles of industrial detritus/and the gray factory smoke merging with the gray sky/make even the green grass on the creek’s banks/seem gray.” This was Moses Cleaveland’s creek; now it is Michael Ceraolo’s.” — Dr. Kelley J. White, poet

Posted by: Lizard | May 5 2009 3:12 utc | 28

Thank you Mr Lizard, Mr Ceraolo is indeed a wonderful poet; I am not him. The article on EWS was interesting, the author reads like Michael Hoffman II and James D. Shelby. Which is not a bad thing, the author having a better sense of humour and greater knowledge of contemporary pop culture than Hoffman/Shelby. Uri Dowbrenko might have reviewed EWS, which would be worthwhile reading. And of course Mr. Debord’s lense does bring the picture into focus. But we don’t have Stanley Kubrick to answer our questions, so your guess is as good as mine. Cheers.

Posted by: euclidcreek | May 5 2009 4:07 utc | 29

david @ 25 – you’re thinking of anna missed who supplied the debord translation earlier

Posted by: b real | May 5 2009 4:53 utc | 30

I have to agree with Uncle in #1, b.
The feeling of comradery always available on an Open Thread offered an ongoing conversation for old friends and allies and even antagonists. That seems to have disappeared with the new format. I actually have stopped following the Links’ conversations on a regular basis but if this thread is a good example, in my opinion it doesn’t seems to enhance the MOA’s overall value that I’ve come to expect.

Posted by: Juannie | May 5 2009 5:35 utc | 31

did not mean to imply you were he, euclid. also, curious shift in tone. why the initial mockery? then, suddenly, you drop all these names. i’m a novice, euclid, so don’t bother sniffing me out. usually i’m an agnostic, but lately i’ve been reassessing my thoughts on evil, and this particular “movie review” brought together more than a few elements i’ve been marinating on for quite some time. knowing that you have some idea of what you’re talking about makes your initial comment that much more obnoxious. cheers.

Posted by: Lizard | May 5 2009 5:42 utc | 32

i love submedia

Posted by: Lizard | May 5 2009 6:10 utc | 33

typepad finally ate one of my links too. let’s try it again

Posted by: Lizard | May 5 2009 6:12 utc | 34

b real-
Yep… I was fogging my brain last night trying to kill those annoying bugs buzzing in my brain and I f’ed up, sorry to not give credit where credit is due.
And thanks for catching me… anna missed you rock!
Lizard… submedia, wonderfully weird, the rap video was classic with the guys in orange jumpsuits, black hoods and handcuffs jigging in the background. Iraq is the new black!
Get off your duff and start a micro power radio station.

Posted by: DavidS | May 5 2009 11:44 utc | 35

Jesus Killed Mohammed: Crusade for a Christian Military

The special forces guys – they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down,” he says.

Also see, Witness for Jesus’ in Afghanistan
Onward, soldier…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 5 2009 19:36 utc | 36