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May 5, 2009
Creative Destruction Helps

Last September I argued that creative destruction of houses could better the economic situation in the United States. The financial and social costs for keeping empty houses is higher than their value. Tear them down.


Some now seem to agree with that perspective:

[T]he two-story residence and three other luxurious model homes were crushed and hauled off for scrap, the latest fallout from Southern California’s real estate crash.


The homes were part of a planned 16-unit project in this community 100 miles north of Los Angeles. The Texas bank that owns the failed development decided to demolish the houses, a cheaper alternative to completing and selling them.


The four finished homes, however, were richly appointed with granite countertops, whirlpool bathtubs and dual-pane windows.


Construction halted in the summer of 2008, and the homes became a nuisance, attracting vandals and squatters, Hester said. The city first cited the developer for failing to maintain the property in July, [city spokeswoman] Hester said.


“People were taking sinks, the air conditioners. For someone who wanted to do no good, it provided an opportunity,” she said.


The bank repossessed the development in August, Hester said. Demolition permits were granted April 9.

Cities with too many empty houses should attempt to re-concentrate their suburbs. If a majority of houses in an area is empty, the local government should help people to move out from the rest too and then take down all the houses. That will be much cheaper in terms of fireguards, police and general infrastructure costs than attempting to keep those areas alive.


Creative destruction is best and easiest to do to right the wrongs of exaggerated construction.

Comments

b, your argument is not consistent with history. I remember the S&L scandals of the 80’s. In Dallas we were as hard hit as anyone. Through the 80’s and into the 90’s there was little to no new construction in Dallas.
The city had been overbuilt during the scandals. Apartment complexes that had barely opened were caught up in legal proceedings and some were vacant for nearly a decade.
I think you need to qualify your proposal. Perhaps in the rust belt, in the deserts your argument has some real merit. We have good reason to wonder if these areas will carry as many folk in the future.
A house is typically a 50yr investment. Also, it’s cheaper to build during the boom than after. These points help justify much of the over-building. It is difficult to predict the future, but I fully imagine we’ll see many suburbs totally flip into single family homes converted into apartments.
In Dallas, we would benefit greatly from a trolley/street car system. We have “light rail” which is a macro tool. We had streetcars in the 40’s and enjoyed greater urban density than we do today. Streetcars will do more to re-develop a walkable Dallas than anything else.
I imagine the same is true in many “newer” cities in the US. Progress is slow, as developers and politicians find other projects more lucrative. Sadly, gov’t seeks increasingly to enter new realms while abandoning those conventional roles they do well.

Posted by: scott | May 5 2009 13:17 utc | 1

I initially thought this was a crazy idea, but not so anymore. There are at least two foreclosures in my subdivision and they are not selling, even at greatly reduced prices. I think it would be beneficial to property values if these two houses were taken out of the market, meaning destroyed. Think about it. That’s our comp, and these comps right now are selling for less than two thirds of what they were selling for three years prior. Wait, let me qualify that. They’re not even selling at two thirds the last selling price. How low do they have to go? As such, so long as they are in circulation, they are destroying the neighborhood’s equity. I know that I will not look favorably on the individual(s) who snatch these up and help destroy my equity. It’s quasi stealing, in a sense.
Also, there should be a moratorium on all new home construction until the surplus supply is exhausted. Fat chance of any of this happening. The transfer of wealth and the destruction of the middle class will continue unabated. Nothing, short of calamity, will prevent a feudal world system from developing. Welcome to our future.
China’s Mobile Death Fleet

Yet as mobile execution chambers begin to roll silently into more and more towns, making capital punishment easier and faster to deliver, fears have risen among human-rights activists and death-penalty opponents that China is relying more on lethal injection because it is harvesting organs of executed prisoners in an effort to supply the country’s growing market for organ transplants.
Chinese hospitals started organ transplants in the 1960s and now perform between 10,000 and 20,000 transplants annually, according to official figures. A kidney transplant in China costs about $7,200, but this official price could swell to $20,000 or even $50,000 if the patient is willing to pay more to obtain an organ sooner. Even those prices, though, amount only to a fraction of the price for an organ transplant in developed countries.
As patients from Malaysia, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore flock to China for transplants, the business is bringing in thousands of dollars to the country’s underfunded health system. Suspicions are growing abroad that the use of newly developed execution vans may be linked to this boom. The British Transplantation Society and Amnesty International in May strongly condemned China for harvesting prisoners’ organs.
China carried out 8,000 kidney transplants last year but only 270, or fewer than 4% of the organs, came from voluntary donations.
“The use of mobile execution chambers exacerbates existing problems with prison-related issues in China,” Sharon Hom, executive director of Human Rights in China, wrote in an e-mail interview. “It facilitates the black-market trade in organ sales particularly because there is no access for independent monitors, such as the Red Cross, to prisons, detention centers and labor camps.”
In China, it is illegal to remove organs without the permission of the person in question or his family members, but critics say these obligations are commonly violated, not the least because of the secrecy surrounding such operations. Regulations issued in 1984 stipulate that the removal of organs from executed prisoners should be “kept strictly secret, and attention must be paid to avoiding negative repercussions”.
Authorities routinely refuse to give relatives access to bodies of executed prisoners, cremating them quickly after the executions, says Robin Munro, a British expert on China’s criminal justice system.

I wonder if Fiat can make some fancy, high tech execution/organ harvesting vans for the U.S. Gubmint with their proposed purchase of a majority stake in Chrysler? Wouldn’t that be special?

Posted by: Obamageddon | May 5 2009 13:48 utc | 2

What with the discovery that many houses built within the last few years contain potentially toxic Chinese-made wallboard, replacement of which is costly, we may be seeing more and more of these destructions.

Posted by: Peter | May 5 2009 13:50 utc | 3

Our governments could provide jobs recycling and recovering reusable materials. Although we may not be sufficiently developed a civilization to employ that advanced a technology.

Posted by: Pvt. Keepout | May 5 2009 14:05 utc | 4

As general social policy, or a political plank, I dont think “creative destruction” will fly. Too many folks already being forced to move to cheaper locations will object to destruction of empty homes nearby. Against them, Obamageddon’s position is probably a minority one.
However, the decisions are being made by 1) the lenders, when they find carrying costs of foreclosed homes too high; and 2) municipalities, trying to cut protection and infrastructure costs. So the issue will be mainly fought out in communities, which I suppose is the democratic way.

Posted by: senecal | May 5 2009 14:16 utc | 5

The US Department of Energy conducts a survey of energy use in residences (RECS) and commercial buildings (CBECS). In a previous thread (not the one linked here) I mentioned that there are fewer people per house in 2005 compared to 1993, which would lead to a surplus of a few million houses. Obelix responded, asking about the density on a surface area basis rather than a per house basis. Here are those numbers (finally), and sorry for the units, sometimes called Imperial Units:
1993 Avg square feet per person: 1875 (187m2 thereabouts). Population 260M. Number of occupied units: 96.2M. Density: 693 sf/person.
2005 Avg sf per person: 2171. Population: 295M. Number of occupied units: 111M. Density: 817 sf/person.
My calcs are wrong sometimes, but it seems if the present population reverted to the 1993 surface area density, we’d have a housing surplus of 17M dwelling units, or 15% of the number of occupied units.
This seems to support serious consideration of retreating toward the centers of towns and cities. Too bad there’s so little salvage value in US residential construction.

Posted by: Browning | May 5 2009 14:47 utc | 6

Ooops on the above: The first number is square feet per living unit, not per person. The last number is square feet per person.

Posted by: Browning | May 5 2009 14:48 utc | 7

there was piece on public radio a few weeks ago about Flint, Michigan moving to shut down entire quadrants of the city, consolidating people closer to cut costs. already a few people in neighborhoods that are becoming ghost towns have agreed to move, and the city is helping to place them in homes. in Miami there are a few groups taking it upon themselves to find, screen, then move homeless families into foreclosed homes. it’s not legal, but these people are acting as care takers, doing general upkeep, and just their presence is beneficial, because they keep the more destructive squatters away (obviously not all squatters are destructive).
people, though, still don’t understand that the glut of housing overproduction is still not fully realized. Mike Whitney had a piece a few weeks ago speculating that the big banks are holding back anywhere from 500,000, to 600,000 homes from hitting the market in an attempt to prop up sagging value. then you have those spineless fuckers commonly referred to as Democrats helping out the banks by voting to keep judges from being able to renegotiate mortgages as tent cities sprout up and get shut down by municipalities afraid of the publicity.
folks need to fortify their psyches; this really has only just begun.

Posted by: Lizard | May 5 2009 15:10 utc | 8

Have you ever been to Victorville? A miserable remote hot dusty place in the desert with no real appeal to support much of a housing boom. What hit my eye in the article, however, was this:

Used building materials are prohibited for use in new construction, so lumber from the site would have to be for personal projects.

What kind of wrong-headed thinking is this?

Posted by: Obelix | May 5 2009 15:28 utc | 9

Cities with too many empty houses should attempt to re-concentrate their suburbs. If a majority of houses in an area is empty, the local government should help people to move out from the rest too and then take down all the houses.

Had a city manager with the same vision. Had to make his life miserable to save a fine old victorian bank building which is now a museum cum office cum workshop. I don’t like this prescription as stated.

Posted by: rjj | May 5 2009 16:01 utc | 10

Although I don’t really see any alternative at this point in time, it still makes me cringe. Being raised by a parent who went through the Depression, I was made to feel that even wasting food was immoral if not a downright sin. Bulldozing perfectly good houses (well, for the most part) seems even worse than tossing half a tuna fish sandwich.

Posted by: Ensley | May 5 2009 17:02 utc | 11

I wonder when a similar wave is going to hit Great Britain. many of the houses built at the height of cheap north Sea oil are claptrap, poorly-insulated, highly energy-inefficient and already not worth the cost of maintenance or renovation.

Posted by: ralphieboy | May 5 2009 17:28 utc | 12

b your argument makes sense for many within the present structure. For ex. being a bank and taking over a foreclosed house that is ‘worth’ little and simultaneously being forced to upgrade, obey regs, maintain, pay property taxes, local rates (or whatever) clean, sanitize, etc. all of which in the US and elsewhere can cost a bomb.
The house becomes a liability…being the owner costs much more than what can be realized, either in the hope of a future sale, psychological boons, or as future or present incoming rent, etc. So the house has to go, to free the owner of that liability.
From an ecological pov, the idea of a sound structure (dangerous, pest infested, etc. is another topic) being destroyed is too awful. It is an incredible waste of materials, energy, work, etc.
Homelessness in the US is high, very high…It is not the houses themselves that should be condemned but the tax-social structure. Why not have Gvmt. housing in abandoned buildings?
That said, certainly many ‘housing developments’ or even individual dwellings, as projected, built or partly built in 04-08, or somewhat before, could never be ‘sustainable’ or ‘viable’ (whatever that means, leaving it vague for now, it will always depend on a particular context) or ‘attractive‘ (ditto), etc.
Such houses represent mal-investment which should be recognized as such, and need to be eliminated. They were built on the presumption of housing prices rising for ever, without taking any other considerations into account.
The crux thus is that the decision to build, develop, or to destroy, trash, is based on expectation of profit or diminishing loss in dollar terms, and not on any other criteria.
Bubble mania and ‘capitalism’ at its excruciating worst, because of the waste, which is stupendous, but allowed, welcomed even, branded as rational, under dollar accounting.
Homeowners who are thrown out often trash the property. They themselves perceive it was ‘no good’ or that they were ‘fooled’..and show they have no interest in anything except revenge and escaping with as little debit as possible, and ensuring that no one else can profit from their misfortune (insofar as they are able to influence that.) They replicate, or implement, follow, the trash and burn capitalism they have been brought up in, bought into. Lost and angry, they facilitate the work of the banks or new forced owners by creative destruction, abandonment, disgusting pollution, etc.
And so it goes. (Vonnegut said.)

Posted by: Tangerine | May 5 2009 18:15 utc | 13

b has proven yet again that he stays well ahead of the curve when it comes to either war or the economy. Now if only he can convince the O-team to do some creative destruction to our 19 or so banks that are drowning in their own toxic assets. But I won’t hold my breath on this one.
Looking back, too many Americans made the mistake of viewing their homes more as an investment than a place of shelter. Despite what the realty industry will tell you, owning a home as an investment isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. There are simply too many costs in owning a home for it to be viewed as a sure-fire moneymaker. Once you factor in repair, maintenance and utility costs, a home, even in a bubble-less market, can be a losing proposition.

Posted by: Cynthia | May 5 2009 19:25 utc | 14

Foreclosed house on my block in northern NJ was left empty in early late summer or early fall. The bank did not check on things like oil to run the furnace, and with the first cold snap the oil ran out and the water line for the baseboard hot water heat system froze and broke.
A neighbor noticed water running down the driveway, tracked it to the water line going into the boiler. He then spent nearly a full day trying to find which bank owned the house. He checked with the township government-nothing. He called and visited local realtors; amazingly, one took the time to track the bank down (also lucky that the bank could be found!) and repairs were made, oil put in tank.
Had the heating pipes inside the house frozen and burst, the house could have been a write-off. Was that the bank’s intent?
The house had been expanded by adding a second level and remodeled prior to a divorce which meant neither of the owners could afford the mortgage. The wife worked three jobs trying to maintain ownership so her children could graduate from the high school they were in. She accomplished that, but lost the house.
This is a compact, neat, affordable area in an otherwise extremely expensive part of NJ, yet the bank has not yet put the house up for sale. Seems to fit with b’s theory.
The other thing banks are doing is selling off foreclosed houses in large lots to big money buyers. Often at less than what single buyers might have paid, but the houses are off the banks’ books.

Posted by: jawbone | May 5 2009 22:11 utc | 15

More details on this on the home page of visionvictorymanifesto.com and 5 videos on this at YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/visionvictory. I have been watching this guy’s videos for quite sometime,and think his ideas are worth listening to. This is not an example of “creative destruction” – these unfinished houses could have been very livable homes. These houses were destroyed because it was in the best interest of the bank, and whether or not this destruction was in the best interest of the community, the state or the nation was not a factor. This bank received bailout TARP funds – I find this all quite sickening.

Posted by: Rick Happ | May 6 2009 3:33 utc | 16

Please – no “creative destruction” for these people!
House-Price Drops Leave More Underwater

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The downturn in home prices has left about 20% of U.S. homeowners owing more on a mortgage than their homes are worth…
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And a somewhat related story:
The Bottom

Posted by: Rick Happ | May 6 2009 5:24 utc | 17

This idea has always struck me as particularly wasteful and immoral. Destroying houses is not the only way to get them off of the market. Why not have the government seize them and donate them to non-profits, or use them for social service work? Using them to house the houseless seems like an obvious fit. Certainly I can think of any number of social services that would benefit from free houses. Yes, there is an ugly side to this argument as far as governmental power (imminent domain) and the certainty of corruption in the process. But it still strikes me as a better solution that destroying houses in a country where so many people have no house, or substantially worse living conditions than these houses could provide. For those that disagree, can we come up with a better creative solution?

Posted by: us.anti-imperialist | May 7 2009 7:44 utc | 18

Why not have the government seize them and donate them to non-profits, or use them for social service work?
For the same reason we lock our trash dumpsters. And make it a crime to dumpster dive. People in third world countries could live rather nicely on our waste. Watch ‘the story of stuff’.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 7 2009 12:20 utc | 19

Goddamn communists socialists…
fucking with our way of life

Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 7 2009 12:25 utc | 20