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May 2, 2009
U.S. Coup Plans In Pakistan

There could be three motives behind all the Obama administration's talk about a new government in Pakistan.

  1. To put pressure on President Zardari to make him do what the U.S. wants
  2. To push the Pakistani army towards a coup against Zardari.
  3. An attempt to steal Pakistan's nukes

Number two is now the most likely scenario. Writes Swoop:

A flurry of visits to Washington by senior Pakistani military officers is underway, to be followed on May 6th-7th by visits by Pakistan President Zardari and Afghan President Karzai. Neither man is held in high regard in Washington. Indeed, a prime reason for the military visits is that Administration officials believe some form of military rule is likely to emerge in Islamabad in the foreseeable future. “The Swat is a mess, Buner is still unsettled and tensions in Karachi between Pashtuns and Urdu camps are too high,” said a US senior intelligence official, “the alternative now is either Sharif with quiet arrangements of support by the army or, just the army.

WaPo's Ignatius sees a Moment of Truth in Pakistan:

The challenge in Pakistan is eerily similar to what the Carter administration faced with Iran: how to encourage the military to take decisive action against a Muslim insurgency without destroying the country's nascent democracy.

(They had a "nascent democracy" under the Shah?)

"My biggest concern is whether [the Pakistani government] will sustain it," Mullen said. He has told his Pakistani counterpart, Gen. Ashfaq Kiyani, that "we are prepared to assist whenever they want."

Assist whenever Kiyani wants …

Unlike the Obama administration I do not believe Kiyani will want to overthrow Zardari at all. He now can practically do whatever he wants anyway. And currently he can point to Zardari's when criticism from Washington comes up. If he would take over, the
pressure from Washington, the responsibility for the economic mess and the general chaos following a coup would be his problems. Why would he want those?

Nawaz Sharif first shunned and now courted by the administration, would probably like to be president. But how does the U.S. expect to put him in charge? Zardari won elections just a few month ago – with help from Washington. He is unlike to step down and even then there would be no guarantee that Sharif would be elected. His party does not have a majority and with judge Iftikhar Chaudry reinstalled at the supreme court, there will be a watchful eye over any sleazy procedure.

Of course if some Taliban would somehow kill Zardari …

Then those plans could succeed. But still, anyone taking over from him is unlikely to do what Washington wants. Why is the adminsitration incapable to see that?

The Pakistani elite as well as the people do see India (and the U.S.) as their big potential enemy, not some tribal mullahs in their backwoods. They fought three wars against India and they see no sign that the danger from there has receded. The Pakistani army can not just leave the eastern border and fight for U.S. interests against its own people along the Durand line. It depends on public opinion just as any politician.

If Washington wants Pakistan to pull back its silent support from the Neo-Taliban in Afghanistan, it will have to solve the India problem. A good first step would be a serious downgrade of India's presence in Afghanistan: no more consulates, no Indian roadbuilding and no Indian paramilitary police on Afghan ground. Then the problems in Kashmir will have to be solved. That may take a while but a Pakistan that will not have to fear a dual front war is much more likely to deliver support for the U.S. in Afghanistan. 

A coup will not achieve that.

Comments

Last paragraph, second sentence above — I think you meant to write Afghanistan instead of Pakistan.

Posted by: Oscar Romero | May 2 2009 15:17 utc | 1

There is an undeclared war going on between the US and the Pak army. The army was not happy when Musharraf was removed with the US support. Without the Pakistan army support, US cannot maintain its presence in Afghanistan. So the US is now ready to bend after months of taking hits at the US and the Nato Supplies, and failing to develop an alternate route. The Pak army supported peace deal in Swat and recent incidents in Karachi and Buner all to remind the US that its supply line can be totally cut off from the Karachi ports to the Afghan borders and Pakistan can make deals with the militants, and make the US presence in Afghanistan even more costlier. Looks like the Pakistan army is succeeding in its game.

Posted by: Hasho | May 2 2009 17:02 utc | 2

@Oscar Romero – you are right – thanks – now correct

Posted by: b | May 2 2009 17:32 utc | 3

Zardari is a simple minded criminal. Just the kind that empires like to pick as their local thug. Why would US replace him with a more complex person like Kiyani or Sharif? Why?
There are many easy ways to get rid of Zardari. There is no need to kill him. His criminal record renders him ineligible for public office. Cheney admin had to pass the odious NRO to forgive his crimes. All Chaudhry has to do is declare the NRO unconstitutional, and presto, Zardari is back in Jail.

Posted by: Jawad | May 2 2009 18:49 utc | 4

“Unlike the Obama administration I do not believe Kiyani will want to overthrow Zardari at all.”

In fact, Kiyani needs better cover than what Zardari can provide.
The Pakistan army is playing a brutal game in Pakistan similar to what the US is playing in the area. We are often caught up looking at the US role in the area. The Pakistan army is no innocent victim here and it is quite clear from the frustrated Obama administration’s changing positions, that the Pak army actually has outsmarted the US.
Right after the November Mumbai attack, it appeared that the US would not rest until it brings down the Pakistan army. The whole media in the US was talking about the ISI and its trained militants, as if the ISI was going to conquer the world, if not that, it was going to replace Al-Qaida as the new enemy of the West.
In just a few short months after multiple attacks on the NATO and the US convoys the situation has drastically changed. Now the US is extending an olive branch to the Pak army. It’s restoring all the military aid to the army and offering the army an increased say in the Pakistani affairs by reducing the Zardari and co in to mere yes man of the army.
This model has been successfully implemented in the US and is in practice since the Second World War. The Pentagon and the civilian administration can work together in Washington, why not try that in Pakistan and make the GHQ and Civilians work together in Islamabad.
The model has been successful in Tel Aviv and Ankara too.
The problem in Pakistan is that the army would not give an inch. The minute it is forced out of power, it starts planning for another coup as it finds it hard to deal with the civilians.
The US and the army may agree on Nawaz now but sooner or later the army will lose faith in Nawaz too and the game of musical chairs would start until the army is fully in control.
There is a risk with Nawaz. He represents the emerging Industrial and trading barons in Punjab. They are in conflict with the Pak army and want more share in the center and would like to snatch control of the economy from the army clutches. So the conflict in Pakistan would not go away.
In Afghanistan and Pakistan, the US probably got more than it can chew.

Posted by: Hasho | May 3 2009 1:47 utc | 5

‘AfPak’, a haiku
In Afghanistan
and Pakistan, the US
chews more than it can.
by Hasho
Regards, SL

Posted by: Tiddly Winks | May 3 2009 4:02 utc | 6

There is an election happening in India now. So, it is imperative that the government appears to show that it’s ‘meddling’ in Pak. to show it’s muscle in the domestic scene. I’d go as far as to say, the situation will worsen in Pak. before it gets any better.
And right now, according to Indian media, the infiltration is heavier than usual with lots of Pakistani regulars, afghans seeping into J&K. My take on that is, that’s the counter offensive by Pak. to offset the reset bombings which they think is being done by India.

Posted by: shanks | May 3 2009 7:39 utc | 7

shanks, I’m not figuring out what J&K is…what are you referring to here? Thnx!

Posted by: jawbone | May 3 2009 16:51 utc | 8

jawbone, J&K = Jammu and Kashmir.

Posted by: Black Bob | May 3 2009 17:17 utc | 9

b:
The Pakistani elite as well as the people do see India (and the U.S.) as their big potential enemy, not some tribal mullahs in their backwoods.
I don’t know how you can make that statement when the Pakistani elite are openly conspiring with the US against thier own people. US drones operate openly in Paksitani territory, US military advisors are on the ground as advisors to the Pakistan military in the war against thier own people, the Pakistan government is openly supplying the military occupation of Afghanistan and Pakistan is getting paid billions of US dollars to do it. Sure there is resistance to this, and much sympathy for the Taliban in both the government and ISI but the facts speak for themselves.

Posted by: Sam | May 3 2009 18:49 utc | 10

A book about US in AfPak
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KE02Df01.html

Posted by: Stephane | May 4 2009 9:12 utc | 11

I realize that Pakistan and India have experienced historically bad relations. However, I also cannot understand why the US cannot influence India vis-a-vis Pakistan’s need to address the Taliban on its opposite border. India cannot seriously consider a totally failed Pakistan to be a plus geopolitically. While India might be able to seize all of J&K while Pakistan comes apart, the post-collapse would prove to be a nightmare for India. They couldn’t occupy all of the former Pakistan to stop the problems and the radicals who are likely to float to the surface in post-failure Pakistani politics like the slag in an iron blast furnace. They would have virtually nothing to lose by initiating a reign of real terror across India, thereby threatening India to tear itself apart internally as it tries to crack down on Pakistani militants and their supporters. This doesn’t even take into account what might happen if some of Pakistan’s nukes fall into the militants’ hands.

Posted by: PrahaPartizan | May 4 2009 17:23 utc | 12

@Sam – I don’t know how you can make that statement when the Pakistani elite are openly conspiring with the US against thier own people.
I can make that because the “elite” you define consists of only a few bribed people like Zardari and some Generals while the “elite” I wrote of includes the judges, the op-ed writers, the opposition in the parliament etc.
Do not confuse a few collaborators with the whole ruling class.
@PP – I also cannot understand why the US cannot influence India vis-a-vis Pakistan’s need to address the Taliban on its opposite border.
The U.S. does not want influence India because it wants India as proxy against China.
India’s policy with regards to Pakistan is not exactly rational btw.

Posted by: b | May 4 2009 18:47 utc | 13

b @ 13:
I can make that because the “elite” you define consists of only a few bribed people like Zardari and some Generals while the “elite” I wrote of includes the judges, the op-ed writers, the opposition in the parliament etc.
Do not confuse a few collaborators with the whole ruling class.

It’s not me that’s confused, I acknowledged those you speak of in my last sentance, but they don’t control the policy. Those “few collaborators” you speak of do, and they are implementing everything I stated in my post with the help of a lot of Pakistanis. Even a lone dictator requires massive cooperation to maintain publically unpopular policies. You didn’t say some Pakistani elite see the US as their potential enemy as you are saying now. Rather you make a blanket statement and are now accussing me of what you did. I’m sure it was unintentional and I chose to address it. Nothing more.
There is no indication that opposition to the policy is being anything but moderated. Those that speak against the policy are regularally suppressed. For example Imran Khan was barred from travelling to Karachi on Sunday leading to this statement: “Under what law can they stop a Pakistani citizen going to Karachi? Isn’t Karachi a city of Pakistan?”. This happening to a man with his credentials says it all.

Posted by: Sam | May 5 2009 8:09 utc | 14