Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 10, 2009
Links April 10 09
  • Which does not mean that they will stop to torture
    C.I.A. to Close Secret Prisons, Scenes of Harsh Interrogations – (NYT)
  • Producing fuel pellets will lower the 'dangerous' stockpile
    Iran touts nuclear technology gainsLAT
  • Interesting collection of authors
    How to Approach the Iran Nuclear Dilemma – (American Foreign Policy Project (pdf))
  • The last resort of 'western' colonialism
    The Larger Meaning of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict – (Bernard Chazelle)
  • Zionist justice – All he did was kill an Arab – (Haaretz)
  • Guess why they do this (btw – it is illegal to withhold such material information)
    Fed Said to Order Banks to Stay Mum on ‘Stress Test’ Results – (Bloomberg)
  • The Second Great Depression
    The Decade of Darkness – (Counterpunch)
  • Latecomer
    Making Banking Boring – (Krugman, NYT, today)
    to make banking as boring again as it should be – (me, Oct 2008)
  • Sunnis and Sadrists
    Thousands of Iraqis rally against U.S. – (McClatchy)
  • Nir Rosen
    “We Didn’t Create a Paradise in Iraq; We Created a Hell” – (Democracy Now)
  • Dangerous development
    Furore in Balochistan over killing of nationalist leaders – (Dawn)

Please add your news and views in the comments.

Comments

re Boring Banks:
banks have two functions which seems to have gotten at odds with each other. On one hand, they do want to make a profit, that is the basic principle of capitalism.
But they are also expected to serve a vital economic function: to keep capital flowing to where it does the most benefit, and to keep the wheels of industry and commerce oiled with sufficient credit.
And it was the industry’s fixation of profit that catastrophically rendered it unable to fulfil its other function.
We built acres of overpriced McMansions that nobody can afford anymore but there is not enough money to fix our roads, build schools or even keep our industries and commerce functioning.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 10 2009 8:09 utc | 1

how come people do not rise?
http://robertreich.blogspot.com/

Posted by: outsider | Apr 10 2009 8:26 utc | 2

Terrorism Charges Dropped Against RNC 8.

Terrorism charges against the eight protesters arrested for plotting to disrupt the Republican National Convention have been dropped while lesser felony charges remain in place.
[…]
other charges of conspiracy to commit riot and conspiracy to commit criminal damage to property ‘in furtherance of terrorism” will be dismissed,’ writes Twincities.com.
Since their arrest, the eight protesters have received national attention and support from the greater activist community. The terrorism charges against them came from Minnesota’s 2002 Patriot Act.
“We believe the terrorism charges would have been a distraction at trial,” said Ramsey County Attorney Susan Gaertner in a press release. “Dismissing those charges will help us focus on the core illegal conduct that occurred. Under the circumstances, the terrorism charge just complicates the case.”
[…]
The Minnesota Independent reports that the decision to drop the terrorism charges could be motivated by politics on Gaetner’s part. Gaertner is seeking Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party backing for governor. But her pursuit of terrorism charges against the eight protesters has not gone down well with party activists.
“She obviously got too much bad publicity about it and she’s backing away,”
said Jordan Kushner, an attorney for one of the defendants, to The Independent. “But the problem is that all the charges are politically motivated and unjustified.”
Ramsey County prosecutors will make a motion to amend the complaint against the protesters and dismiss the terrorism counts at a hearing on May 26.

At some point they would have to define in a court of law exactly what “terrorism” is as it pertains to the Minnesota law, or the Patriot act, and of course it’s all bullshit, if not a threat of terrorism itself.

Posted by: anna missed | Apr 10 2009 9:19 utc | 3

According to Haaretz, Israeli say they’ve nothing against Western talks with Iran. But meanwhile why not publishing something a scary article about an Iranian terror ring in Egypt?

Israel’s master plan for transfer
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Posted by: andrew | Apr 10 2009 10:06 utc | 4

Audio interview to Gareth Porter about US policy on Iran and Robert Dreyfuss about Dennis Ross’ Iran plan.

Posted by: andrew | Apr 10 2009 10:24 utc | 6

A must read: The quiet coup.

Posted by: andrew | Apr 10 2009 11:38 utc | 7

Andrew, Simon Johnson is the control. His is a campaign of usurping rage and angst that could lead to potential revolution and redirecting it to benefit the Plutocracy. He is to the financial sector what Ray McGovern is to the intelligence sector. The dissenting control. Not that he doesn’t speak the truth. Much of what he says is true, but it is presented strategically in a rather benign and velvet glove tone. He’s IMF, and we all know that the IMF are economic hit men. Simon Johnson wants to strip the USA of its entitlement programs, like the IMF has done in every other country that has accepted its beneficense. His assessment is directionally correct, but I assure you, his motives are ulterior.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Apr 10 2009 12:18 utc | 8

Police station suicide attack kills eight

At least eight people were killed, including five American soldiers, and 20 wounded in a suicide lorry bombing in Iraq’s northern city of Mosul today.
The explosives-laden lorry ploughed into a police station in the southern part of Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city, Lt Col Mohammed al-Juburi told the AFP news agency.
An interior ministry official in Baghdad said at least eight people were killed in the blast and another 20 were wounded.
“Five US coalition soldiers were killed, and one wounded from a suicide vehicle borne improvised explosive device attack earlier today in Mosul,” a US army statement said.

Earlier today two roadside bomb attacks near Baghdad killed three people and wounded seven others, according to local security officials.

Posted by: b | Apr 10 2009 13:19 utc | 9

Why can’t you find normanfinkelstein.com on google?

Donald Johnson sent me this note:

I visit Norman Finkelstein’s site about once a week. I usually get there by googling his name and then clicking. That didn’t work yesterday, because apparently Google no longer provides links to Norman’s site. I don’t know what the explanation is, but it is kind of interesting.

Agreed; I wonder. (Finkelstein’s out of town.)

Posted by: edwin | Apr 10 2009 14:20 utc | 10

This started as a reply in the “crowbar” thread, but It’s such a strange bird I thought I might fly better over here…
The political idea behind denying supplies to the “enemy” was to stress the civilian population enough so they would either demand change or rise-up against their government and force change…
Isn’t legitimate then, for the civilian population to demand change or force change when they lack the resources to pay their mortgages, for their health care or their food?
Don’t know why but my thoughts are shooting everywhere this morning like buckshot out of a street sweeper…
I can go back to beginning of the banking mess when we were told (as we are still being told) that some institutions are “too big to fail” BS… Economic warfare against the people, “blockading” their access to capital resources and stealing their tax dollars to give to a few rich assholes…
First they took money from the poor, but I didn’t say anything for I wasn’t poor. Then they took the money from the lower middle class and I said nothing, for I wasn’t of that class either.
Then they came for the middle class and I said nothing (i may have even laughed) but I said nothing for I wasn’t of the middle class either.
Then they came to take my millions and I stood, staring in awe and amazement that my fortune would be taken by the very people I thought of as my own…
Then naked and poor he was thrown out on the cold street where he immediately became a meal for a pack of feral dogs… To dream.
We interrupt this rant to insert this other piece of rant…
There is an economic war being waged right now and the greedy assholes are scrambling to find nice cushy jobs in the NWO’s middle management where they’ll get paid keeping the rest of us moving with their various cattle prod; brutal force to economic force.
Speaking of things that need to be done, an interview at Wide-Eyed with RNC protesters who were arrested. Jesse Sparkles:
Historically speaking, “permitted” dissent has not typically led to social change because it relies on a strategy that is weak from the start—asking for permission to make a demand. Instead, the un-permitted actions aimed at “crashing the convention” on September 1 never asked for permission and it was those actions—at times wild and always unpredictable—that made those in power tremble. And indeed the actions—whether they were people locking themselves together to block highway off-ramps or unannounced marches of a few hundred that refused to obey the police—provided inspiration to those on the streets. Every time a bus was blocked, the energy in the crowd would escalate and people could—for at least a short moment—feel that their efforts were contributing to a collective “crashing” of the convention. I also made the decision to engage in the un-permitted actions because at the RNC in 2004 over 200,000 people marched and nobody cared—not the media and certainly not the Republican delegates who never saw the protest. The un-permitted actions allowed protestors to take their message straight to the delegates whether it was by blocking their buses on the opening day or disrupting their fundraising parties on subsequent days.
And now back to our originally scheduled rant:
Can there be anything less capitalist than keeping goods from moving freely? Isn’t this much like cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face? In a “free” society I’d be able to trade with anyone I felt like doing business with. Should any government be allowed to stand in my way? And especially my government that would have taxes from the transaction going into its operating budget?
As I said I’m a bit scattered this morning…

Posted by: DavidS | Apr 10 2009 14:23 utc | 11

Weird stuff, none of the links or formatting on the above… Hmmm

Posted by: DavidS | Apr 10 2009 14:25 utc | 12

street: “More of the Same” at the New York Times

The New York Times should take a look in the national and institutional mirror before it charges foreign governments or anyone else with confusing “change” with “more of the same.”
Last Monday’s Times contains an article with an ironic title: “In Cuba, Change Means More of the Same, With Control at the Top.” This “news” item reports that “rather than dismantling Cuba’s socialist framework,” Cuba’s President Raul Castro “seems to be trying to make it work more efficiently.” Castro, the Times reports, seeks to keep power concentrated “at the top.”
Well, okay, but what is U.S. President Barack Obama – Mr. “Change” himself and heralded as such by the Times‘ editorial board and many of its top columnists – trying to accomplish other than to make the American corporate profits system “work more efficiently” without “dismantling the [capitalist] framework” and with power (and wealth) still concentrated “at the top”?

scahill: Rahm Emanuel’s Think Tankers Enforce ‘Message Discipline’ Among Liberals’

The White House is ‘helping’ liberal groups to get their political messages in sync with the official line.
Over the past several weeks, independent journalists and anti-war activists have tried to shine a spotlight on how groups like the Center for American Progress and MoveOn, which portrayed themselves as anti-war during the Bush-era, are now supporting the escalation and continuation of wars because their guy is now commander-in-chief. CAP has been actively pounding the pavement in support of the escalation in Afghanistan, the rebranding of the Iraq occupation and, more recently, Obama’s bloated military budget, which the group said was “on target.” MoveOn has been silent on the escalation in Afghanistan and has devoted substantial resources to promoting a federal budget that includes a $21 billion increase in military spending from the Bush-era.
What is clear here is that CAP and MoveOn are now basically psuedo-official PR flaks targeting “liberals” to support the White House agenda. This, though, should not come as a shock to those who have closely monitored these groups. They were the primary force behind Americans Against Escalation in Iraq (AAEI), “a coalition that spent tens of millions of dollars using Iraq as a political bludgeon against Republican politicians, while refusing to pressure the Democratic Congress to actually cut off funding for the war.” Now, according to John Stauber, executive director of the Center for Media and Democracy, the Center for American Progress is now running “Progressive Media which was begun by Tom Matzzie and David Brock in 2008 and now ‘represents a serious ratcheting up of efforts to present a united liberal front in the coming policy wars….’ [These groups] are working hard to push Obama’s policies, including rationalizlng or defending his escalation of the wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan as “sustainable security.”
On Wednesday, Ben Smith at Politico reported on the latest development in this White House-coordinated campaign to use these think-tankers to whip up support for its agenda. It is a newly formed coalition, the Common Purpose Project, which blogger Jane Hamsher describes as “one of the many groups Rahm Emanuel has set up to coordinate messaging among liberal interest groups.”

Posted by: b real | Apr 10 2009 14:35 utc | 13

Things could get interesting soon.

Posted by: …—… | Apr 10 2009 15:06 utc | 14

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I like it better when Hendrix sings it

Posted by: DavidS | Apr 10 2009 16:02 utc | 15

link got dropped somehow. Zuma, now there’s a fella who some people could give a shit about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lof6XJ8b1SU

Posted by: …—… | Apr 10 2009 16:07 utc | 16

re b’s dawn link, a matter of weeks after the US moves into baluchistan we have the makings of a civil war..
Kachkol Ali, an advocate and former leader of the opposition in the Balochistan assembly, had alleged at a press conference four days back that the three leaders had been whisked away by security officials from his chamber on April 3. They had gone to the court to attend the hearing of a case against them.
that doesn’t sound very talibani to me.

US courts put corporations on notice over human rights

In Wednesday’s ruling, Judge Shira Scheindlin said that the South African plaintiffs could pursue claims against Daimler, GM and Ford “for aiding and abetting torture … extrajudicial killing, and apartheid.”
Scheindlin also cleared the way for lawsuits against IBM for “aiding and abetting arbitrary denationalization and apartheid,” and against Rheinmetall — the German parent company of Swiss-based arms manufacturer Oerlikon — for “aiding and abetting extrajudicial killing and apartheid.”
Michael Hausfeld, one of the attorneys representing the apartheid victims, hailed “a major advancement in international law.”
“I think it’s a landmark decision, extremely significant in the field of corporate responsibility and human rights violations,” he told AFP.
“The court upheld a standard for determining when and under what circumstances a corporation could be held accountable for aiding and abetting a violation of customary international law.”

Posted by: annie | Apr 10 2009 16:28 utc | 17

I haven’t read a word, anywhere, by anyone, describing the demise and dissolution of Saddam Hussein’s bureaucratic infrastructure. Come to think of it, I haven’t read a word describing that infrastructure as it operated before 2003. Not as a history of wicked deeds, mind you, but as a description, full and neutral, of its organization and its role in the lives of Iraqis.
No doubt such a description would have lots to say about the military, the police, the judiciary, and the penal system, and the ground rules, if any, for suppressing political, religious, linguistic and ethnic dissent. Also, of course, it would have lots to say about schools, hospitals, roads, trains, cars and planes, not to mention the management of the oil industry and other elements contributing to the GNP.
Surely it exists, that description, but where? And in what language?
I now infer, from American efforts to leave Iraq, that the many networks comprising that country have not only survived, but have beaten back misguided attempts to occupy the place. And if this is so, the story of their success should be easy enough to tell. We should know the command structure and the resources of fighting units, their logistics, their means of communication, enforcement of discipline, and all the other operations that comprise a war of resistance–however tightly, or loosely, integrated.
I can only imagine this story, because it will never be told. It will be kept, by those in the know, as a secret for reasons of “national security”. Were it known, the entire American enterprise would become an object of global scorn, of world-wide laughter, and I believe that our government officials at every level would rather trash the Constitution than suffer the humiliation of that story.

Posted by: alabama | Apr 10 2009 16:30 utc | 18

Extremist Web Sites Are Using U.S. Hosts

On March 25, a Taliban Web site claiming to be the voice of the “Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan” boasted of a deadly new attack on coalition forces in that country. Four soldiers were killed in an ambush, the site claimed, and the “mujahideen took the weapons and ammunition as booty.”
Most remarkable about the message was how it was delivered. The words were the Taliban’s, but they were flashed around the globe by an American-owned firm located in a leafy corner of downtown Houston.
The Texas company, a Web-hosting outfit called ThePlanet, says it simply rented cyberspace to the group and had no clue about its Taliban connections….The Taliban’s account was pulled last week when a blogger noticed the connection and called attention to it. But the odd pairing of violently anti-American extremists and U.S. technology companies continues elsewhere and appears to be growing.

In some cases, the complaints come from governments. Pakistan has been venting to U.S. officials about militants’ use of North American Internet services since last fall, when an investigation of the Mumbai terrorist rampage, which involved Pakistanis, revealed that the attackers had communicated using Internet phone calls routed through another server based in Houston.
American and Pakistani officials say the issue has raised tensions within diplomatic and intelligence circles in both countries and has reignited a high-level internal debate over the legality and efficacy of shutting off or restricting access to such services.
A senior Pakistani official said repeated requests to Washington to shut down controversial sites have gone unheeded — and American authorities’ seeming reluctance has become “an irritant.”…..”They’re very reluctant or very slow to deal with this. We’re saying at least if you monitor them, then share with us the information so we can take them out,” the official said.

houston? i’m so shocked

Posted by: annie | Apr 10 2009 16:52 utc | 19

alabama @18
Can’t recall details but do remember that Ahmed Chalabi seized and hauled away the archives at some point very early on.

Posted by: rjj | Apr 10 2009 17:01 utc | 20

memory hole flotsam: recall description of “truckloads.”
Some individuals, such as the American intelligence asset Ahmed Chalabi, took Baathist records and have printed them to sell at a profit.
did not delve. Need a search engine that excludes material after 2006.

Posted by: rjj | Apr 10 2009 17:11 utc | 21

david s
jimi makes stravinsky seema little simple

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 10 2009 17:30 utc | 22

& on another note – as b & others have pointed out – why is it that it is always 30 insurgents killed – no matter whether it is afghanistan, iraq or pakistan – they must make it easy for statisticians

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 10 2009 17:33 utc | 23

You can no longer use Google to find Norman Finkelstein’s website. Someone is playing little censorship games–
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/why-cant-you-find-normanfinkelsteincom-on-google.html

Posted by: delurker | Apr 10 2009 17:36 utc | 24

@#18
The aim of the Feiths, Perles, Derschowitzs was always to destroy Iraq as a secular nationalist state and replace it with a tripartite sectarian cripple of a country. This was evident before the invasion, and much more so after, with Bremner’s regime.
So it is not surprising that the Baath party infrastructure, army and bureaucracy, was destroyed. Good luck finding anything about preinvasion Iraq, apart from gassed Kurds, rape rooms, and people shredders…images dear to zionist propagandists and shabbus goyim, now replaced by Iranian booga wooga.
Re Chalabi, see here, Yediot Aharonot.
http://tinyurl.com/2pwbt
Chalabi’s Israeli link took place 13 years ago. KZ, a Defense Ministry official, revealed details of his first meeting with Chalabi in London this week. “Chalabi immediately projected Middle Eastern warmth. He is very intelligent and surprised me with his great knowledge about us. He knew each of the components of our political gallery, the ministers, the influential MKs, IDF Intelligence and Mossad heads.
………
Maj. Gen. (reserves) Danny Rothschild, who headed the IDF Intelligence research branch, received Chalabi’s telephone numbers in London in 1990 and went to meet him in secret. Only very rarely was IDF Intelligence able to make links to a senior Iraqi exile who displayed such great quantities of good will. They discussed Israel’s efforts to get information on the fate of the IDF POWs and MIAs.
………
Rothschild and Chalabi met in the sumptuous office of the Iraqi exile in western London and spoke for long hours about the future of the region. Rothschild remembers that he wrote a classified report. The information on the Israeli MIAs and POWs, which Chalabi promised through his contacts in Teheran, never materialized, neither in Rothschild’s next two meetings with Chalabi.
This did not prevent Israeli security officials from recommending Chalabi to the American administration and connecting him to senior advisers in the White House, the Pentagon and the CIA. As a result of the recommendations, James Woolsley, the former CIS director, gave him his patronage.
So much for the interesting story that Chalabi is/was an Iranian agent. Hilarious.

Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Apr 10 2009 18:27 utc | 25

more on the situation in Balochistan – keep in mind that Baloch nationalists have long accused the Pakistani gov’t of using the taliban as a counter to their own on-going resistance to the State:

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) has credible information about the killing of Baloch nationalists by the security forces, a statement issued be the commission claimed on Thursday.
. . . Ghulam Mohammad Baloch, Lala Munir and Sher Mohammad – office holders of the Baloch Republican Party and the Balochistan National Party – were picked on April 3 by people in plain clothes, who were accompanied by two vehicles of the Frontier Corps that stood at a distance.
Abduction: “It is reported by credible sources that the three victims were sitting in the office of their lawyer after having attended a court hearing when they were forcibly picked up, blindfolded and taken in cars, closely followed by vehicles belonging to the Frontier Corps. A number of people witnessed the abduction. Mutilated bodies of the three victims were found in an isolated place near Turbat in the early hours of the morning,” the statement said.
HRCP claimed that members of the state security agency had picked up the three victims, tortured and killed them.

The victims were members of the committee that was recently formed by the government of Pakistan to investigate the case of missing persons in the province, notably abducted UN worker John Solecki, who was freed last Saturday.

BBC there conflates the demands of the kidnappers (investigation of disappeared persons, incl. women)

Talking to reporters after taking oath as acting CJ, Justice Javed said 101 “missing persons” had so far been recovered on SC orders, while efforts would be made to recover the rest. He said the issue of “missing persons” could not be resolved until the government and its agencies cooperated. The acting CJ said there were differences about the exact number of missing persons, adding that a plan to constitute a committee for the recovery of the missing persons was also under consideration.

& shortly before the abductions, (Saturday, 28 Mar, 2009):
Baloch groups reject Zardari package

Posted by: Arcturus | Apr 10 2009 19:07 utc | 26

Rachel Corrie, murdered in cold blood by the IDF without a peep of protest from our worthless government, would have been 30 today.

Posted by: ran | Apr 10 2009 19:10 utc | 27

Gee, the Chinese win, no shit, Sherlock. Concerted action by the civilized world will be the only way to get the US kleptocracy under control, so I like that Chinese-water-torture trick with the bonds – the standard jingoistic ‘balance of financial terror’ argument made bond sales reductively binary and cataclysmic.
( http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21053.html )

Posted by: …—… | Apr 10 2009 19:22 utc | 28

Thrasyboulos @25: it’s my belief that the Ba’ath party and its partners have won the war, not lost it. And if Chalabi really destroyed all those records, then our own experts must be just as baffled as I am by the composition of the resistance.

Posted by: alabama | Apr 10 2009 21:41 utc | 29

Early days yet, philé Alabama, but you may be right. Obama doesn’t seem to realize what’s going to hit him, the chump; he seems to have bought into the bullshit. He’ll never be forgiven, either way.
Odierno knows, though.

Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Apr 10 2009 23:26 utc | 30

Thrasyboulos, I get the feeling that Obama’s is going to get us out of Iraq, but as to other places, I have no earthly idea of what he’s up to. You may be right.

Posted by: alabama | Apr 11 2009 1:28 utc | 31

on this, alabama – i cannot agree with you – the bases are the telling factor. so too, the embassy. the construction, presence & maintenance of the mercenary armies & death squads. in fact, the functionaries within the army & dept of defence are quite open that the american presence will last longer than an obama presidency

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 11 2009 2:01 utc | 32

Thrasyboulos quotes Yediot Aharonot …

“Chalabi’s Israeli link took place 13 years ago. KZ, a Defense Ministry official, revealed details of his first meeting with Chalabi in London this week…”

…but chalabi’s been tied up with that rats’ nest at the U of chicago for decades… wohlstetter, perle, wolfowitz, khalilizad… all spiritual descendents of leo strauss.

A scion of an aristocratic Iraqi family, Chalabi fled Baghdad at the age of 13, in 1958, when the corrupt Iraqi Hashemite monarchy was overthrown by a coalition of communists and the Iraqi military. In the late 1960s, Chalabi studied mathematics at the University of Chicago with Wohlstetter, who introduced him to Richard Perle more than a decade later.
The Lie Factory mother jones and many others

the only real question about these guys is whether they really are loyal to israel, or are just using israel’s exemption from criticism to escape criticism of themselves.
wouldnt be that surprising if they wrote israel off if it advanced their project to achieve “benevolent global hegemony”… but they might be stalemated by zionist fanatics who still believe in israel’s samson option.

Posted by: wadosy | Apr 11 2009 2:09 utc | 33

I get the feeling that Obama’s is going to get us out of Iraq
4/9/09 General Ray Odierno: we may miss Iraq deadline to halt al-Qaeda terror
shocked!

Posted by: annie | Apr 11 2009 3:37 utc | 34

again

Posted by: annie | Apr 11 2009 3:39 utc | 35

Yes of course, remembereringgiap. But then again, look at all the abandoned American bases in France. They too were built with a long, long occupation in mind….
I’m not pushing this analogy, just noting it as a precedent.

Posted by: alabama | Apr 11 2009 6:25 utc | 36

marijuana. increasingly the consensus is decriminalize or flat out legalize, regulate, TAX, which is already happening in some places. this article may seem to just provide, on the surface, further indication that Obama is either a liar or powerless, but beneath the surface, the war against the herbal wonder plant has, as its key component, a long standing corporate/federal demonization campaign against a scientifically proven beneficial and surprisingly versatile crop.
tonight i watched the curious continuity of a “special investigation” into pot culture on MSNBC, followed by Maddow talking to Kumar (Kal Penn)
you know, that funny weed smoking hollybollywood india token who was recently killed off from his stint on Fox’s House to become, get this, associate director at the white house office of public liason.
marijuana has historical/cultural/political/medicinal/economic/judicial/corporate components that make it more than just a funny sideshow. Obama can crack snide jokes about the online community’s overwhelming support of this topic, but his actions increasingly proves his words are meaningless.
i’ll say it again (cough, cough) Obama is either a liar, or powerless, when all he has to do is stop using govt’ resources to usurp public supported state decisions about the use of a plant our founders valued.

Posted by: Lizard | Apr 11 2009 6:47 utc | 37

alabama at 18 – Iraq was an economy that was basically state run, practically communist in US parlance.
Saddam made many efforts in the area of land reform, agriculture, etc. They worked quite well. Schools worked fine – really fine – more girls in top ed. than in the US, to mention just a detail. It was heavy bureaucracy, a State apparatus, that was (imho) nevertheless more flexible than many others, but what do I know. Social safety net was good to excellent. (E.g. Free medical care in the morning, paid for in the afternoon. Americans can’t even imagine such a thing.) Country was in good shape, of course in a large part because of oil revenues, without *any* political ‘democratic’ freedom. More could be said…
It was run top-down (Saddam and family, the nominated, trickle down to the faithfuls, etc.) which is of course what the US loved. The US loves dictators, the more rapacious and cruel the better. Easier to deal with a pointman who has power….
Yet the US hated its socialist economy, it will do *anything* to wipe out that stuff. (See Yugoslavia.) A dictator who is right-wing is fine, a confused or socialistic one is anathema … And Saddam at some point proved intractable.
Too much was demanded, he balked. He passed from being someone in Rummy’s phone list and Kissinger’s buddy to a pariah. Held out. As best as. Maybe made many strategic errors, I can’t judge.
Thumb nail idiosyncratic sketch – not more.
I think ppl underestimate the rabid hate the US elites and Corps. (that is the Gvmt!) has for any communal, or communistic, or socialistic (all terms vague) arrangement. It threatens them directly. Be it Cuba, Iraq, Yugo, others – the reaction is bomb, invade, etc.

Posted by: Tangerine | Apr 11 2009 19:52 utc | 38