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March 4, 2009
OT 09-08
News, views, rants, whatever … open thread
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Thank you ptw, and thank you Helena Cobban…
Who besides Emanuel is authorized to have the receivers showing the real-time location of the country’s leaders? How many receivers are there? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 4 2009 19:35 utc | 2 U$, Posted by: ralphieboy | Mar 4 2009 20:16 utc | 3 Speculators are running to oil again. This could be interesting. Severe recession bordering on depression and the herd of wealth drives up oil prices yet again. That would be sure to clinch a depression, if we’re not in a contemporary one already. Posted by: Obamageddon | Mar 4 2009 20:20 utc | 4 Snippet 2 from #1: Posted by: anna missed | Mar 4 2009 20:37 utc | 5 Anyone else think that this is a bad idea for the world at large? I’m sure it’s Cheney and Rumsfeld’s idea of the way war ought to be. Posted by: Obelix | Mar 4 2009 20:48 utc | 6 Yeah, that looks like a warm and inviting coference, Obelix. I wonder if they will be provideing live demonstrations on any wedding parties as part of the festivities. These guys love to bomb the hell out of wedding parties. I think it’s projection. They hate their wives, and curse the day they were married, so they bomb weddings with unmanned drones to make up for it. Of course, it;s never the proverbial Billy Idol “White Wedding.” Posted by: Obamageddon | Mar 4 2009 21:27 utc | 7 they do sound like a bunch of amateurs don’t they? Posted by: outsider | Mar 4 2009 21:27 utc | 8 I thought you guys might be interested in some unintended consequences of this economic shock wave that we are surfing right now. Posted by: DrF | Mar 4 2009 22:18 utc | 9 As I mentioned to annie, it’s very unwise to put a grasping politician like Bill Clinton in the White House, but it’s apocalyptic to put a grasping and bankrupt “brains behind the graft” Hillary Clinton into State, and the reason you’re seeing so many Hillary envoys isn’t the Balkanization of the State Department, and the reason you’re seeing so many contradictory and clearly leaked memos isn’t because there’s either 1) a behind the scenes struggles or 2) a drifting leaderless miasma. Posted by: Peristroika | Mar 4 2009 22:28 utc | 10 Dr. Martin Luther King on the Vietnam War (1968)
Complete Transcript of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Assassination Conspiracy Trial Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 4 2009 22:53 utc | 11 Innaresting comments at Talking Points Memo concerning AIG’s counterparties and non-disclosure covenants in contracts. Josh is arguing that since we own 80% of AIG, those covenants no longer apply. Posted by: vachon | Mar 4 2009 22:54 utc | 12 MLK Jr. cont #3…
An Act of State: The Execution of Martin Luther King, New and Updated Edition Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 4 2009 22:59 utc | 13 vachon@12,
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 4 2009 23:21 utc | 14 According to Jim Steele and Don Barlett, contributing editors at Vanity Fair who write extensively on tax topics, Geithner’s tax cheating is far more egregious than Daschle’s… Posted by: Cynthia | Mar 5 2009 0:38 utc | 16 To anyone who studied economics or BA good advice from Willem Buiter – The unfortunate uselessness of most ’state of the art’ academic monetary economics
Notice that Buiter is himself “warped by a modern Anglo-American Ph.D. eduction. ” and about 10 years late in his recognition. Better late than never … Below are a list of links to news articles dealing with some major changes taking place in Taiwan today. Posted by: china_hand2 | Mar 5 2009 8:22 utc | 18 News on the pending economic agreement: Posted by: china_hand2 | Mar 5 2009 8:23 utc | 19 The comedy that is the Chen case: Posted by: china_hand2 | Mar 5 2009 8:38 utc | 20 A quite complete piece on Gaza with lots of footnotes. Good help for anyone who needs to argument Hasbara fighters on what really happened. @ Uncle 14. Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 5 2009 10:14 utc | 22 That’s me above at 22. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 5 2009 10:21 utc | 23 b, @ 17, that’s a wonderful link. Many thanks! Posted by: alabama | Mar 5 2009 11:29 utc | 25 b, that little guy has been cleaning/saving my screen for a year now. He’s really getting around. Posted by: beq | Mar 5 2009 12:08 utc | 26 @alabama – Is it because they are merely seen as players, with everyone else betting against them (which is hardly the same as altering a policy)? Is it the sheer inertia of short-term greed? Is it the complexity of the system (since you’ve argued against this, repeatedly, I’d have to discount it)? None of the above? b- Posted by: David | Mar 5 2009 13:51 utc | 28 b, Posted by: Cynthia | Mar 5 2009 20:00 utc | 31 I found there was little ‘intelligence’ in artificial intelligence that’s why I stayed away from that topic and decided to go for the actual hardware (don’t mind me on that it’s just the topical computer architect disdain for the AI guys ;). Posted by: ThePaper | Mar 5 2009 20:59 utc | 32 testing… Posted by: catlady | Mar 5 2009 22:34 utc | 33 More on Zionism: Posted by: Parviz | Mar 6 2009 10:15 utc | 35 b’s post regarding a piece by Simon Johnson: Confusion, Tunneling, And Looting Posted by: David | Mar 6 2009 12:14 utc | 36 I don’t know if this matter has already discussed here at MOA. If so I apologize
(I have added my emphasis of the phrase “at the request of the American government”.) Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 6 2009 14:30 utc | 37 More from the Bangko Post on the Bout extradition:
Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 6 2009 14:55 utc | 38 Oops, I forgot to close the blockquote after “… American-Russian cooperation.” Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 6 2009 14:57 utc | 39 over at counterpunch, Chris Floyd has a nauseating piece that depressingly vindicates the cynics. it’s title is tangled up in Rove. here’s a taste:
to put it not so eloquently, what the fucking hell?! can it be any more obvious that the legal abuses of bush are being preserved for a reason, that reason being Obama wants the same assurances his guys will remain above the law. Posted by: Lizard | Mar 6 2009 16:25 utc | 40 GTV: Empire, Republic & The Neocons in six parts.
More than a mere roundup, this is deep politics. And what’s coming in the next twenty years. Probably to most MOA readers there’s nothing new here, but it’s concise and in bite size chunks. Well worth a look & listen. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 6 2009 17:52 utc | 41 Man, the balls this must have taken (pun intended…lol), to bad we can’t see this kinda resistance here. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 6 2009 23:12 utc | 42 Funny feces U$@42. Posted by: David | Mar 6 2009 23:49 utc | 43 What I hate about this blog is their reactionary right-wing Chicago-school opinions. Posted by: …—… | Mar 7 2009 14:19 utc | 44 @40 “….vindicates the cynics.” Posted by: rjj | Mar 7 2009 15:49 utc | 45 the only good new this week is that brasil has given the italian writer, cesare battisti, refuge & has refused berlusconi’s demand for extradition Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 7 2009 19:29 utc | 46 From another board..
Saw this on the Greek TV. The Russian word was not in cyrillic! (?)
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The Sunday Telegraph understands that one of Mr Obama’s most prominent African American backers, whose endorsement he spent two years cultivating, has told friends that he detects a weakness in Mr Obama’s character. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 9 2009 4:39 utc | 49 I’ve been trying (without much success) to find news from Thailand related to posts 37 & 38 above.
Pan per focaccia as they say in the Veneto. Obviously I have no direct knowledge of which side (if any) is speaking the truth. In a sense this all harks back to the “good old days” of the cold war when the celebrated Soviet journalist Victor Louis usually had better information (or disinformation) than official sources, and was always well-positioned to make his points. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 9 2009 12:08 utc | 50 Obviously I have no direct knowledge of which side (if any) is speaking the truth. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 9 2009 12:46 utc | 51 Not much new information on the Victor Bout extradition case in this report from today’s (10-03-2009) Bangkok newspaper, The Nation , but the “political” aspect of the case is clearly underlined:
In passing, thanks to Uncle $cam for showing the need for swat teams. One can only hope that, in the fullness of time, such bio-robots will come back to bite their sponsors. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 10 2009 9:50 utc | 52 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/usns-impeccable-harrased-by-chinese-ships/
China seems to be trying to force the US Navy off of its borders. For now the effort is sporadic but it may be sustained and permanent in the future. Posted by: Arnold Evans | Mar 10 2009 14:58 utc | 53 Siegelman news:
Open Left asks, When, Exactly Do The Dems Go On Offense???
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 10 2009 15:42 utc | 54 I’ve just come to a realization. (I’ve been reading Derrick Jensen again.) Posted by: Juannie | Mar 11 2009 4:25 utc | 55 I assume b will devote a thread to Chas Freeman’s withdrawal. As one might expect the NYTimes and Washington Post are giving “fair and balanced” reporting, but not, Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 11 2009 6:18 utc | 56 HKOL, Posted by: anna missed | Mar 11 2009 7:59 utc | 57 Israeli Armsdog-Millionaires Assault Bollywood Posted by: annie | Mar 11 2009 12:48 utc | 58 Smart Grid: Government spying targets Rural America
Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you and you sold me. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 11 2009 15:23 utc | 59 boy, sure is quiet around these parts. (uncle, the above is beyond disturbing, and i’ll pretend for awhile it’s an empty projection by our desperate controllers who sense their time is almost gone) Posted by: Lizard | Mar 12 2009 5:32 utc | 60 Must be the full moon as the reason the Moon isn’t full, and yes laughter is good. Posted by: David | Mar 12 2009 6:18 utc | 61 Thanks to Uncle for various links, including the Orwell Chestnut Tree. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 12 2009 9:41 utc | 62 please see original article for embedded links
more at the link… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 12 2009 10:02 utc | 63 uncle, that cybor moth is freaky. surveillance maxed out. Posted by: annie | Mar 12 2009 13:47 utc | 64 Annie-I think circuit city is out of business, we’d have to go here Posted by: David | Mar 12 2009 15:37 utc | 65 There’s also boring, low-skullduggery ways to kill lots of brown people. Posted by: …—… | Mar 13 2009 16:52 utc | 66 About the UBS accounts, from Swiss Press.. Posted by: Tangerine | Mar 13 2009 18:20 utc | 67 i have not posted here recently because i’m in a quite difficult situation with my diabetes & having to change to my 5th form of insulin & the necessity to be hospitalised again & some serious complications Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2009 22:38 utc | 68 Your presence here, r’giap, is in itself testimony to those paths for beauty & truth of which you speak. Thank you again. Posted by: Juannie | Mar 13 2009 23:01 utc | 69 I am reminded to thank you along with Juannie, r’giap. Posted by: beq | Mar 13 2009 23:11 utc | 70 Don’t want to think about this place, my favorite place, without r’giap, want him to take care of hisself like he takes care of everybody else, eat 5X a day instead of once, toddle about a bit and rest up, eke out more good days when he can tell us what’s what and pat hisself on the back. He is a good guy. Posted by: …—… | Mar 14 2009 1:14 utc | 71 & being this tired even little & meaningless things hurt more than they should Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 14 2009 2:08 utc | 72 the fabric is only as good as its threads. there will always be pockets of resistance. maybe bolivar will shine when all seems lost. r’giap, the vindication of your resistance is increasingly palpable. Posted by: Lizard | Mar 14 2009 4:38 utc | 73 my local palestinian listserve is going apeshit. someone from oakland was shot demonstrating a new wall in the s=west bank toda and lies in crtical condition from brain surgery in a hospital in tel aviv. it is also on the abc news here. no link via email
Posted by: annie | Mar 14 2009 5:30 utc | 74 r’giap – good to see your name appear in the right-hand column on the front page & to know that you’re here all the time Posted by: b real | Mar 14 2009 5:48 utc | 75 @ r giap Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 14 2009 6:53 utc | 76 b- Posted by: David | Mar 14 2009 12:41 utc | 78 i thank people here for their tenderness which is really just another name for strength Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 14 2009 15:05 utc | 79 tant de nuits mon ami – france loses one of its great poets tonight Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 14 2009 21:30 utc | 80 tant de nuits mon ami – france loses one of its great poets tonight Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 14 2009 21:30 utc | 81 On m’a vu dans le Vercors Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 14 2009 21:47 utc | 82 Beautiful r’giap… beautiful and sad, I’m less for never having heard him. And I don’t know if you caught my comment last comment directed toward you, but you are the heart and passion of Moon in my eye’s I and I am better for having read you and you having shared your discourse and life with us. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 14 2009 23:41 utc | 84 for memy dear, dear uncle – you are like a who central committee to me & their researchers Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 15 2009 0:12 utc | 85 Elders of Zion to retire.
Posted by: Jeremiah | Mar 15 2009 2:04 utc | 87 Oops, meant to add “A bit of fun and satire for your Sunday.” Posted by: Jeremiah | Mar 15 2009 2:23 utc | 88 drip, drip, drip Posted by: citizen | Mar 15 2009 4:32 utc | 89 NYRB: US Torture: Voices from the Black SitesICRC Report on the Treatment of Fourteen “High Value Detainees” in CIA Custody
looks like we got an early jump on shooting-spree season this year, which generally starts as we approach spring, peaks in april, and ends by the time school lets out. Posted by: Lizard | Mar 15 2009 15:52 utc | 91 i know there is at least another poster her who has also insulo dependant diabetes – & i feel after five years – for the first time really quite lost inside the medical model Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 15 2009 16:27 utc | 92 A little light post under the “A bit of fun and satire for your Sunday.” Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 15 2009 17:21 utc | 93 uncle, i intercepted a fan of your on another blog.
i recommended
Posted by: annie | Mar 16 2009 5:25 utc | 94 @r’giap – stay steel
Now onto Columbia – that last nasty left in South America? This week-end the BBC ran a documentary on the Victor Bout sting operation several times. It was very professionally executed and relied on a fairly large spectrum of interviews and reports. It’s hard to believe that (among many others) J. Peleman, Gayle Smith, Thomas Pickering, Peter Hain, A. Szubin and many and consultant D. Farah are not sincere in their belief that Bout is a “bad guy”. Nevertheless, I continue to believe that there is considerably more to the story than this BBC presentation would have us believe. In particular, there are deafening silences regarding Mr. Bout’s competitors, and notable reticence regarding his “respectable” employers in the U.S. and Britain. One must, however, concede that at least some such connections were mentioned, including logistical assistance via flights into Baghdad and Kosovo sponsored respectively by the U.S. and Britain. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 16 2009 8:29 utc | 96 Lizard @ 91. I’ve noticed that about April too [my birth month, 16th to be specific]. Even without news events, I’ve noticed for a long time. Posted by: beq | Mar 16 2009 11:02 utc | 97 merci beq Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 16 2009 18:33 utc | 98 |
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