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March 14, 2009
Change

Changing the label is all that they do.

U.S. Won’t Label Terror Suspects as ‘Combatants’

The Obama administration said Friday that it would abandon the Bush administration’s term “enemy combatant” as it argues in court for the continued detention of prisoners at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, in a move that seemed intended to symbolically separate the new administration from Bush detention policies.

But in a much anticipated court filing, the Justice Department argued that the president has the authority to detain terrorism suspects there without criminal charges, much as the Bush administration had asserted. It provided a broad definition of those who can be held, which was not significantly different from the one used by the Bush administration.

Does the slime taste better now?

Emtywheel analyzes the details and writes:

In short, it's a big, fat, cynical game. A word game, like any other parlor game, giving a tired old concept a verbal facelift. Without, however, changing the concept itself.

Comments

Glad to see ya haunting the cryptic castles of Mz. Marcy . . . she’s to the point, ain’t she. *G*
There’s a lot on the table being defined or ignored, that we the people need resolved.
I wanna be hopeful, but . . . . http://www.deepcapture.com/the-story-of-deep-capture-by-mark-mitchell/
And the makeup of the Obama Admin, as many of your commenters have offered, is very, very establishment and status quo school.
Oh well . . . we all die, sooner or later . . . will any of this be worse or better for us in our later years?
Me, I woulda liked to see good triumph evil, before I die.
Foolish, huh . . .

Posted by: Larue | Mar 14 2009 7:16 utc | 1

Some week huh? If it keeps up like this, Obama will probably develop a “swagger” before the end of spring.

Posted by: anna missed | Mar 14 2009 7:55 utc | 2

Hell!!!
It is like calling abortion choice. What else is new?

Posted by: jlcg | Mar 14 2009 8:31 utc | 3

Obama will probably develop a “swagger” before the end of spring

Too funny anna missed, and unfortunately all signs are pointing that way.
As Obama and Biden are walking down the street, they see a steamy brown pile on the road. Obama bends down and has a close look. “Looks like shit man”. Biden kneels down and takes a whiff. “Smells like shit”. Then Obama scoops up a finger full and tries it. “Tastes like shit too, am I glad we didn’t step into it.”

Posted by: Juan Moment | Mar 14 2009 8:37 utc | 4

XXIX. NO Freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, or be disseised of his Freehold, or Liberties, or free Customs, or be outlawed, or exiled, or any other wise destroyed; nor will We not pass upon him, nor condemn him, but by lawful judgment of his Peers, or by the Law of the Land. We will sell to no man, we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta
With the “Enemy Combatant” designation one could pretend that some how one was not in technical violation of habeas corpus. I guess that fig leaf is no longer needed.
When I was young and naive I never dreamed that I’d be fighting for the implementation of rights that were formally recognized in 1215. Oh – I’m speaking about Canada as well as the US. We too have our own problems with indefinite detention without trial.

Posted by: edwin | Mar 14 2009 13:36 utc | 5

that’s changiness you can believe in!

Posted by: ran | Mar 14 2009 14:59 utc | 6

this is disgusting, abhorrent. when i say i am shocked, i am!

Posted by: annie | Mar 14 2009 17:53 utc | 7

annie, this is what i was afraid would happen, and why i couldn’t celebrate the “victory” of this man’s election. but at least the guy is enjoying himself with stevie wonder and basketball team visits while the imperial gears keep churning up human misery, torture, and murder, right?

Posted by: Lizard | Mar 14 2009 19:12 utc | 8

To the Europeans, the sight of a hooded prisoner means only one thing. Torture.
To see a prisoner hooded, then blindfolded on top, ear muffed and shackled, means barbarism.
It has been quite a revelation, since 2001, what we have had put on our screens. What to the USanians is normal in their penal system.
The label you put on it, “unlawful combatants” rather pales considering the symbolism involved.

Posted by: chris colon | Mar 14 2009 21:42 utc | 9

murderous & mendacious motherfuckers

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 14 2009 21:59 utc | 10

Obama will probably develop a “swagger” before the end of spring

It’s called pimpin’. And you don’t want to know what I call Obama the more I read shit like this.

Posted by: Jim T. | Mar 14 2009 22:00 utc | 11

I recently ran a video for students about the US Women’s Suffragist movement, which showed how Alice Paul, one of it’s leaders, was arrested with other women for picketing the front gate of Woodrow Wilson’s White House, during WWI. They were arrested on the bogus charge of “obstructing traffic”, but the women refused to knuckle under and pay a fine, and were subsequently sent to Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia. There, Ms Paul, who went on a hunger strike, was secretly removed to a room, and over a period of time was force-fed, using the crude technique that has proliferated its way through history, showing up later to humiliate detainees at Guantanamo. Women were asking for the vote, as our prisoners in this War on Terror might ask for their day in court.
When a message was smuggled out of the workhouse, exposing the mistreatment, it was published by the Washington Post. President Wilson was embarrassed by the revelation, and ordered the release of the women; and though he perhaps cynically had been counseling patience to the suffragists, he nonetheless took the opportunity to put the issue of the 19th Amendment to Congress, with the urgency at hand.
The change we seek in the treatment of detainees lies in our hands as much as in the hands of President Obama. He has put idealistic statements into the political record, much as Wilson did, with his ringing statements about democracy. In the last moments before her arrest, Alice Paul was standing in front of a steel drum in which a fire burned–right at the gate of the White House–where she would take up one sheet of paper after another, read one of President Wilson’s idealistic pronouncements about democracy, crumple the paper in one hand, and consign it to the flame.
At the height of the suffragist crisis, Ms Paul’s heartbreaking cry, “In prison or outside of it, American women are not free”, surely has it’s parallel in the delusional War on Terror. The current president will be sent up to the podium for a terrible embarrassment, when his words are found wanting.

Posted by: Copeland | Mar 15 2009 1:13 utc | 12

copeland
my friend, i just don’t believe a single word that comes out of their murderous fucking mouths – about anything -war & peace – wealth && exclusion – not a word, not a single word
they have transformed the possibility of a world of wonder & beauty – into an abbatoir on cannery row
the politics of community are the only politics that have meaning in a slaughterhouse

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 15 2009 1:50 utc | 13

not necessarily OT – obama’s director of speechwriting: Jon Favreau

Favreau led a speech writing team for the campaign that consisted of Adam Frankel and Ben Rhodes. For his work with Obama in the campaign, he would wake as early as 5am, and routinely stayed up until 3am working on speeches. While staying up to work, Favreau would often drink espresso and Red Bull, taking breaks to play the video game Rock Band. His leadership style among the other Obama speechwriters is very informal. They would often meet in a small conference room, ordering take out and discussing their work late into the evening over take-out food. According to Rhodes, another of the speechwriters, Favreau did not drive structured meetings with agendas. “If he had, we probably would have laughed at him,” Rhodes said. Favreau is planning to hire more speechwriters to assist him, but concedes he is unsure of how to manage them. According to him, “My biggest strength isn’t the organization thing.” He is credited with [appropriating Dolores Huerta’s] catchphrase, “Yes We Can”, which was the slogan of Obama’s 2004 Illinois Senate campaign.

Favreau has cited the speeches of Robert Kennedy and Michael Gerson as an influence on his works, and has stated that Peggy Noonan is his favorite speechwriter. Noonan’s speech that Ronald Reagan gave at Pointe du Hoc is Favreau’s favorite of her work.

Posted by: b real | Mar 15 2009 4:51 utc | 14

The cynic in me is telling me that those in the mainstream press are refraining from criticizing Obama for tricking us into believing that he’ll be far different from Bush on everything from the economy to war, because deep down they are afraid black activists groups will accuse them of being racists — just as they are afraid to criticize Israel for fear that the Israel lobby will accuse them of being Jew-haters. If there is any truth in what I’m saying, then Obama is using his minority status as a weapon, just as the Israeli Firsters are, to sell us down the river, drowning us in a endless sea of debt and wars.:~(

Posted by: Cynthia | Mar 15 2009 12:53 utc | 15