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February 18, 2009
Militia in Afghanistan

Over the years varying policies have been tried in Afghanistan with regards to local militia.

The Taliban enforced a ban against local militia. But shortly after 9/11 people re-armed in fear of the coming disorder. After the Taliban's retreat, the UN and the Afghan government ran an expensive disarmament and demobilization program to get rid of armed local groups.

Karzai warned of local militia in 2004 but in 2006 called for installing some. The 'west' was critical of that plan at that time and it was not implemented.

Then in late 2008 the U.S. planed to re-institute local militia. While Karzai is said by 'western' media to have endorsed that, in a recent interview he seems not to do so and he predicts that the program will end in "a disaster." The U.S. is now arming local folks in Afghanistan with Czech weapons.

Some press excerpts documenting the above are below the fold.

One wonders:

  • What is Karzai's real position on militia?
  • Against whom will these weapons be used?
  • How long will it take until the current 'western' pro-militia stand is changed again?

KAMAL HYDER, CNN JOURNALIST: What I can tell you right now in that in the east, most of the population, which is in the rural area of Afghanistan, are seen more and more with weapons, something that the Taliban would not allow in peacetime because they de-weaponized Afghanistan. But there is a feeling among Afghanistan's rural population that the country may be under threat of an attack and people are getting up for a long guerrilla war.
A rare view from inside Afghanistan, CNN, September 25, 2001

President Hamid Karzai said Sunday that Afghanistan's private militias had become the country's greatest danger — greater than the Taliban insurgency — and that new action was required to disarm them.

''The frustration that we have in this country is that progress has sometimes been stopped by private militias, life has been threatened by private militias, so it should not be tolerated,'' he said. Without disarmament, ''the Afghan state will have really serious difficulties,'' he said.
AFGHAN PRESIDENT DESCRIBES MILITIAS AS THE TOP THREAT, NYT, July 12, 2004

The UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan and the UN Development Program are supporting Afghanistan's New Beginnings Program (ANBP), which is aimed at coordinating [the Disarmament, Demobilization, and Reintegration (DDR)] efforts in the country.

After initial setbacks, the DDR program began its pilot project in the northern Konduz Province in October 2003. By mid-April, nearly 48,000 members of the Afghan Military Forces (AMF) — the catch-all label for various Afghan militia units — had been disarmed, according to the ANBP.
Afghanistan: Disarming The Militias — Which Militias And Which Arms?, RFERL, April 20, 2005

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said Sunday that his government would give weapons to local tribesmen so they could help fight the biggest surge in Taliban violence in years.

Western diplomats briefed on the plan expressed concern that the effort could fuel factional fighting by arming forces loyal to warlords with long histories of factional disputes.
Karzai to Arm Afghan Tribesmen In Bid to Stem Taliban Attacks, WaPo, June 12, 2006

The government of Afghanistan has extended its programme to disband all
illegal armed groups by four years, according to officials.

Militia leaders and warlords still try to maintain their dominance over communities through military and violent means,” [Masoum Stanikzai, head of the DIAG commission,] said.

“Additionally, while we collect weapons, terrorist networks which have sources outside Afghanistan continuously re-arm insurgents and other criminal gangs,” he added.

More than US$250 million has been spent on disarmament, demobilisation and reintegration.
AFGHANISTAN: Disarmament programme extended, IRIN, October 31, 2007

The U.S. military will soon launch a pilot program to raise local militias, paid by the Pentagon, in an effort to improve security throughout the country.

The new program in Afghanistan, tentatively dubbed the Afghanistan Social Outreach Program, has a number of backers. Two weeks ago, it was approved by President Karzai, with the endorsement of the ministers of interior and defense."
U.S. Military to Launch Pilot Program to Recruit New Local Afghan Militias, U.S. News, December 16, 2008

Karzai said that merely sending more troops to Afghanistan is not the full answer and disagreed with a plan to concentrate them around the capital. And he added that a U.S.-supported idea to empower militias in Afghanistan—similar to a successful "Sons of Iraq" program in Iraq—would be "a disaster" in Afghanistan, only repeating the mistakes of the past.

Afghan leader Hamid Karzai defends his rule in an exclusive Tribune interview, Chicago Tribune, December 19, 2008

The first stages of a plan to raise militias against the Afghan insurgency will involve giving 1,200 assault rifles to local men with little training, according to documents that reveal fresh details about the controversial program.

A 23-page PowerPoint briefing obtained by The Globe and Mail suggests the Afghan government wants the new militiamen in some districts to vastly outnumber the police.

The document shows the first units will be organized in Saydabad district of Wardak province, southwest of Kabul. They will eventually cover the province with 1,200 uniformed men carrying Czech-made assault rifles and driving white Ford Rangers, dwarfing the province's current police force, officially listed at 688 officers.
Afghan militia gears up to fight the Taliban, Globe & Mail, February 18, 2008

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In today’s SPIEGEL Online:
Lonely in Kabul: Karzai Faces Life – and Elections – without American Friends – SPIEGEL ONLINE – News – International

Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his mentors in the United States have grown apart. In an effort to pacify Afghanistan, the new administration in Washington is sending more troops to the country — but is no longer pinning its hopes on the Afghan president.

US relations with Afghanistan’s President Hamid Karzai, seen here during the recent Munich Security Conference, have grown cold. Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s day normally begins at 8 a.m., when he has breakfast in the presidential palace with its elegant, high ceilings, ornate mirrors and crystal chandeliers, usually with one of his deputies or an envoy from one of the provinces. On these occasions, Karzai smiles, takes his visitor’s hands and exudes the attentive authority of a tribal leader.

Karzai hardly ever turns down a guest’s request. In return, he expects their loyalty — even though he is as dependent on them as he is on the Americans. Under these circumstances, disappointments are inevitable.

America and Karzai were once on the best of terms. Without the United States, Afghanistan would not have become a democracy — albeit a very fragile one — and Karzai would not be president. With his excellent English, optimism, elegance and gratitude, Karzai captivated America.

But that sense of harmony is now a thing of the past. Today, the relationship is characterized by disaffection and disappointment on both sides. Karzai openly criticizes the Americans, while the Americans have written him off.

Posted by: Fran | Feb 18 2009 12:59 utc | 1

From the same story above.
Lonely in Kabul: Karzai Faces Life – and Elections – without American Friends – SPIEGEL ONLINE – News – International

After the call, Karzai called together a group of his closest associates and reportedly told them: “These Americans do not understand that, although we are their friends, we are not their servants. They want to treat us like colonized generals. They don’t understand that we are a proud nation. I would rather die honorably than be their powerless vassal.” It was a turning point in the relationship between the protective power and its protégé.

Posted by: Fran | Feb 18 2009 13:04 utc | 2

thx for getting that together b.

Posted by: Tangerine | Feb 18 2009 14:24 utc | 3

This is really OT sorry – but my mind turned to the success of Kosovo. Humanitarian War at its Most Glorious!
Kosovo’s independence is ersatz. It is an international protectorate. Only 40-some countries have recognized it.
The Serb enclaves don’t accept its new constitution, function with Serb Law, Serb courts, Serb schools, and Serb money.
Newspapers report the unemployment rate at between 40 and 60%, depending on the slant of the article. Just recently, one of the last businesses (metallurgy) closed its doors.
Emblems: It has two flags, the official, which figures a golden map of Kosovo on UN blue, and the other – red with a black eagle. Kosovo now has a national anthem. It is wordless. Only a melody!
It is a synthesis between Palestine (powerless Gvmt) and Cyprus (partitioned de facto.)
Without the violence of Palestine or Afghanistan, there is that.

Posted by: Tangerine | Feb 18 2009 14:53 utc | 4

Defense is business. Afghanistan as ‘market penetration’. Czech weapons as ‘sale’.
Why do you MoAs bang your gums over politics?! Defense doesn’t give a schtuff about
‘politics’. Politics is just a license to steal, a formality, a hurdle to get over.
Arming militias, building barracks, expanding Bagram prison, all just ‘contracts’.
Our troops are ‘surging’ from one contract to another, parked in a new sandbox for
as long as Defense can milk the cost-plus ‘contract’. CONTRACT! CONTRACT! CONTRACT!
Get busy doing business, or get busy doing slavery! http://solari.com/blog/?p=2058

Posted by: Shah Loam | Feb 18 2009 18:01 utc | 5

This thread didn’t garner much attention, but interestingly Hillary Clinton praised Iran’s cooperation on Afghanistan during her visit to Indonesia, which nearly knocked me off my chair. And here is an excellent CRF analysis of Iran’s indispensable role in Afghanistan, with Iran’s cooperation so crucial to regional peace that it makes me wonder whether prophecies of an Israeli attack on Iran are even remotely conceivable:
“Iranian cultural and economic expansion continues apace. Iranian radio broadcasts fill the airwaves, Iran-funded road and building projects are under way, a new teacher training center is planned for Kabul, and a Herat-Khaf rail link (Pajhwok) is being constructed to connect Afghanistan and Iran by train. Iran has also offered humanitarian aid to Kabul in the form of fuel and transport-as much as $500 million since 2001, according to the U.S. Congressional Research Service. CFR’s Rubin, who has spent years as a journalist in Afghanistan, says Shiite Afghans are better off financially than most of their counterparts because of aid from Tehran.”
http://www.cfr.org/publication/13578/iran_and_the_future_of_afghanistan.html?breadcrumb=%2Fbios%2F13554%2Fgreg_bruno
Council on Foreign Relations Op-Ed

Posted by: Parviz | Feb 20 2009 6:52 utc | 6

Sorry for the poor link:

Posted by: Parviz | Feb 20 2009 6:53 utc | 7

Jeez!
b, help if it doesn’t work this time:

Council on Foreign Relations Op-Ed

Posted by: Parviz | Feb 20 2009 6:54 utc | 8