Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
February 10, 2009
Geithner’s No-plan

This is just insane:

Mr. Geithner, who will announce the broad outlines of the plan on Tuesday, successfully fought against more severe limits on executive pay for companies receiving government aid.

He resisted those who wanted to dictate how banks would spend their rescue money. And he prevailed over top administration aides who wanted to replace bank executives and wipe out shareholders at institutions receiving aid.

Fought, resisted, prevailed – the NYT writer obviously adores Geithner. But what is the result of Geithner's 'great victory'?

Because of the internal debate, some of the most contentious issues remain unresolved

The "plan" which is none, calls for spending between $1,200 and 1,900 billion of taxpayer money plus uncounted thousands of billions from the Fed and FDIC (government guaranteed) to make bankrupt banks whole without asking their shareholders or unsecured debt holders to take a haircut.

You might wonder why I – not being a U.S. taxpayer – am furious about this. Well – lots of people with 'special interest' in other countries will point to this insanity as an example of how their government should rescue their banks. I therefore hope and believe that U.S. taxpayers will fight, resist and prevail against this no-plan.

If Obama really tries to get this through, he will burn up most of his political capital in a very short time over a really stupid issue.

The well known alternative: Take the banks into formal bankruptcy and open their books to the public. Fire the management, wipe out the shareholders and the unsecured debt holders, auction off their bad assets and than offer what is left of the bank in a fresh IPO to new private holders.

What is not to like with that for 99% of the people?

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missus charley, m.d. and i are U.S. taxpayers, and we will fight against this “plan” with every method at our disposal –
that is to say, i will write to our senators (the entirely useless Ben Cardin and Barbara Mikulski) and congressperson (the possibly useful Donna Edwards) –
and to Our President, in the hope he will see the error of his ways

Posted by: mistah charley, ph.d. | Feb 10 2009 14:04 utc | 1

Ask a guy who’s got experience in reaming out kleptocracies.

Posted by: …—… | Feb 10 2009 14:15 utc | 2

What is not to like with that for 99% of the people?
They’re just fired, instead or jailed, or maybe shot on the spot?

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Feb 10 2009 14:33 utc | 3

USA was 3 hrs away from Economic, Political Collapse in Sept
Rep. Kanjorski: $550 Billion Disappeared in “Electronic Run On the Banks”

At 2:20, Rep. Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania, chair of the Capital Markets Subcommittee, discusses a “tremendous draw-down of money market accounts in the United States, to the tune of $550 billion dollars” that occurred in the matter of an hour or two in September 2008.
“The Treasury opened its window to help. They pumped a hundred and five billion dollars into the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks. They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts, and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic and there. And that’s what actually happened. If they had not done that their estimation was that by two o’clock that afternoon, five-and-a-half trillion dollars would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States, would have collapsed the entire economy of the United States, and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.”
“It would have been the end of our political system and our economic systems as we know it.”

“We’re not the experts on the hill”, we’re not any geniuses”? ….
“SOMEBODY,threw us in the middle of the Atlantic ocean without a life raft?”
And who would that be?
This is the biggest Three Card Monty game in history…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 10 2009 14:40 utc | 4

b-You are a harsh task-master,
I’ve barely been able to digest yesterday’s information and you feed us more, more, more. My small mind is reeling from all the input 🙂
I was cussing at the radio this morning listening to the voices saying how the government is going to “get tough” before they release the next installment of the TARP funds. It’s a good thing there is nobody to hear me when I get on a raging blue cuss-fest in my car.
I drove up to Aspen yesterday to check in on some buddies and find-out how the economic mess is effecting the population there.
Here are two links from the Aspen Daily News about Bernie Madoff’s affect on aspen:
Madoff customers also donors
list of the screwed
Both my friends drive limos they were telling me of a regular billionaire customer, who in one day bought 25 companies in what would be classified as “fire sales” I guess the guy has bought over 100 companies since christmas. Crazy to think about being able to spend money like that.
One truth about these tough times is there are deals to be had. There are a lot of corporate assets priced for a quick sale, and most of these assets are cherries. If you need quick cash (as many of the rich do) you sell-off the investments that move fast.
There are many people hurting in the Aspen economy that never thought they’d ever feel the pinch from bad times. I hate enjoying watching their downfall because of how much it is hurting the regular folks just trying to feed their kids. Ski towns are fun, but it gets more difficult for workers to live there every year.
I don’t feel there is much hope that the average person is going to be able to change much. Maybe, if everyone was angry enough to march (maybe,) but I’d guess there’d be quick and brutal government crackdowns on protest.
There is far too many people in the U.S. that treat politics like a football game. You are either a winner or a loser, but there is never happy compromise. Talking to the vet that cares for my critters is an exercise in arguing with Rush Limbaugh… Same old arguments and now that Obama is in office he is just now realizing how fucked-up everything is.
Of course in his eyes it’s all the democrats fault, (I reminded him about all the republicans who voted for TARP) It is an exercise in futility trying to make people like him see that the world isn’t divided as much by political beliefs as it is by wealth. The Rich rule; the rest of us suffer.
He was complaining about how america had become a communist country, and I laughed and told him if we were communist, we wouldn’t be paying rent. He smugly told me that he didn’t pay rent, and I asked him what would happen if he stopped paying his property tax?
Enough of the small-town, small talk. I would like to have a simple, obvious argument I could lay on guys like him, because if we can help my vet understand how treating politics like sports hurts him, then he would quickly spread the truth to his buddies and it wouldn’t take long to change the way things work.
Activist that really want to change the world would do far more good studying economics and business in college and dressing in suits and ties while hanging-out at Elks lodges and Mason lodges while whispering truths in the ears of those who really run the show. This isn’t because the Elks or the Masons run the world in some secret conspiracy, but because their membership is usually the movers and shakers in town (one of those
“chicken or egg” questions).
The thing I’ve always thought funny about my activist friends is that they love to have funny haircuts, tatoos, clothes, anything to make them different from others(but ironically looking just like their friends… Hmmm). The people who fight the activist don’t have a problem growing longhair, getting tatoos or wearing funny clothes… which side is going to win this war?
I rant and roll this morning, sorry to take-up the space. Eat the rich!

Posted by: David | Feb 10 2009 14:53 utc | 5

there could be no clearer example of how much knowledge we posses & how little wisdom
it is clear those who rule from the roll of dollars, know nothing
except perhaps their own self preservation

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 10 2009 14:53 utc | 6

What is not to like with that for 99% of the people?
Because they’re the 99% of the people who control 1% of the wealth as opposed to the 1% of the people who control 99% of the wealth.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Feb 10 2009 15:13 utc | 7

it is as clear as day when we do a close reading of this situation – economics is not a great deal of help – but the researches of pschopathology are more useful & instructive

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 10 2009 15:44 utc | 8

Pure class warfare with Geithner and Summers managing regulatory capture for the financiers.
Obama is a fantastic charlatan. One of the greatest frauds in the history of US politics.
He’s just getting started.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 10 2009 15:46 utc | 9

CluelessJoe, you’ve got the right idea. I think people need to see some of those ‘movers and shakers’ hanging from the lightposts in every town, feeding the crows. Anything less than that and I’m sure we’ll have more of the same. A famous man once said ‘Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable’.

Posted by: Jim T. | Feb 10 2009 15:59 utc | 10

slothrop nailed it. credit where due.

Posted by: Ran | Feb 10 2009 16:00 utc | 11

The only possible defense in all this is that bond holders are also the institutions perpetrating the vast banking swindle and these players must be protected because they are the ones who buy treasuries.
The same game from here to eternity: capital offers itself as the only solution to a crisis created by capital. Sort of like a foot surgeon who roams the neighborhood streets whacking the feet of passersby with a lugwrench.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 10 2009 16:02 utc | 12

Slothrop @ 9:
Bingo.

Posted by: Tantalus | Feb 10 2009 16:20 utc | 13

Just listened to Geither’s speech:
“The situation is shitty.”
“Paulson and Bush made a lot of mistakes and gave a lot of money for free to the big banks.”
“We will do the same.”
“We do not yet know how.”
“Give me $1.3 trillion.”
“This will be good.”

Geithner announced that information will be available on “financial stability dot com”
But both sites http://www.financial-stability.com/ and http://www.financialstability.com/ are still for sale by domain sellers. Someone will make a big profit selling these names now.

Posted by: b | Feb 10 2009 16:31 utc | 14

What is not to like with that for 99% of the people?
Nothing. It is the conventional, understood response. It fits with the free market ideology. It is financially, morally, strategically and politically sane. Most Americans, I presume, would applaud such a measure, or simply take it in their stride, consider it ‘normal’, etc.
Obama is bailing out his buddies on Wall Street.
More frightening, his approach seems to be built on the assumption of perpetual growth – get ppl to borrow more and everything will start up again – quote, Unfreeze the credit crunch – which doesn’t exist anyway. (1)
But there are no more bubbles on the horizon, not a one, and dosing the patient with more cancer cells (debt) will just kill him quicker. Scary as well is the idea is that the money should go to to the lender rather than the borrower – what a nonsensical idea! Sure, there is ‘job creation’ of a kind in the ‘stimulus package’ – but it is minor and cheap as compared to the bail-outs, the jobs won’t last, etc.
Geithner’s tax fraud – truly disgusting. I’m guessing BO had no choice, was forced to nominate him, and then keep him.
As for tax matters concerning housing, even Bloomberg argues Obi-man’s policies – favor the rich!
link
1) Where are the stories of businesses dying because of lack of credit? Read one! on the internet, it boiled down to, I need new equipment, the bank would not give me credit, we are closing in Jan. The story was detailed and the main nos. were given, it sounded perfectly sincere, and if true, a classic. The person did not mention shopping around at different banks. One story in two months…You’d expect media to be filled with business owners needing money and on the internet exchanging tips about where to get it. (I’m setting aside big corporations, banks /insurance cos. themselves, territorial entities, opportunists and seekers of pork.)

Posted by: Tangerine | Feb 10 2009 16:45 utc | 15

Geithner’s first job out of school was with Kissinger and Ass. He has had a real through training in tax evasion, incompetence, nepotism and getting financially inspired blood on his hands. I think back to reading some of Ayn Rand’s crap when I was a kid. I figured it was like Gulliver’s Travels, a satire of the hand wringing, sky is falling, yahoo right wing one-per-centers. I didn’t realize at the time it was a road map.
John Galt?
Buzz Meeks

Posted by: Buzz Meeks | Feb 10 2009 17:27 utc | 16

strangely enough i saw ‘the fountainhead’ on french cable. & what a fascist tract it was. you understand all these creeps who have been running economic policy for the empire have been sucking on the teats of two quite demented women – ayn rand & margaret thatcher – with a little of the more hysteric hannah arendt thrown in
& it’s all coming apart, piece by piece & i am sure they are not even capable of looking after their own interests.
let it all burn down

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 10 2009 17:44 utc | 17

#15
Scary as well is the idea is that the money should go to to the lender rather than the borrower – what a nonsensical idea!
$2000 billion to the banks – $50 billion to homeowners. Did somebody say leverage?

Posted by: PaulM | Feb 10 2009 17:55 utc | 18

The Geithner Plan makes multiple half-moves in various directions, wriggling around the sharp points of the current crisis, artfully accomplishing nothing except buying time for trillions of dollars in ‘dirty assets’ to stay off-book where they can desiccate and decompose until one fine day their hallucinatory value shall be paid for in full with genuine taxpayer dollars.
The Geithner Plan spares the people who lost big on these assets from actually losing anything at all. Losing would make them unhappy, and since these losers are the wealthiest 10% of the nation, who own 70% of the nation and its assets outright, and who own and operate the national government as a private fiefdom, well — these folks are not going to be made unhappy.
Gentle Reader, only two things are happening in all this hoopla.
One, paying back every penny of the investment losses Wall Street’s fraudulent ways have caused to our wealthiest 10%.
Over the past two decades, these people got their government to cut Wall Street free of its several New Deal leashes, in hopes of reaping runaway profits, and lo, those profits came pouring in. The Dow hit 14,000, productivity went up, wages stagnated, overseas war profiteering took off, permanent tax cuts, oh my how the profits came rolling in.
The only problem is that these profits were hallucinatory, being based on fraud, waste, theft, double-dealing, destruction of the manufacturing base, and mindless government borrowing.
Thirty million supremely wealthy persons trusted Wall Street gamblers to double their wealth in a decade, and Wall Street did. And then the whole house of cards turned out to be a house of cards.
Nonetheless, these thirty million people who own and operate both the country and the government WILL HAVE THEIR MONEY BACK — every hallucinated dollar, every paper profit, before they will permit any real concern or care for the other 270 million Americans camping out between the shining seas.
Two, the other thing that’s happening, is the stimulus, the attempt to get credit moving again out among the 270 million Americans. Credit not just for the average shopper, but for the companies they work for, so that they can buy factory materials in bulk, so they can ship overseas, so they can import and export, so they can build a new factory and pay it off over ten years, so they can buy new tools, so they can grow by leaps and bounds instead of saving for years to be able to afford incremental progress. Credit is a magic wand that can raise up a hospital or factory or wind farm or any other means of production as if overnight, and then let the profits from the new thing pay for it over a few years of credit.
Without credit, we all get to live like the Amish, and buy only what we’ve saved and scrimped for.
But — there will be no flow of credit until the bailout is accomplished, or until it is so double-dog guaranteed written into law in blood oaths that the wealthy 10% are not going to lose a penny of their paper profits from the Bush years that they will feel safe enough to be kind enough to permit credit to flow again.
This is the single biggest heist of national wealth and productivity in the history of our species. It is all going to a vanishingly small percentage of our species.
What should be happening right now? Nationalize the banking system.
Open up the books of every financial institution in the country to public scrutiny, and marking to market every financial instrument in existence, private or not. Give everything its honest market value, and draw up a balance sheet for each financial institution. They will either be busted or not. This should be made public as well.
Whomsoever is an investor in the busted institutions is busted to the degree that they invested. Just like it said in the prospectus they read before they invested. That prospectus did not say, “Don’t worry, the taxpayers will cover any losses, to any amount you can imagine. Seriously — you just can’t lose!” It never said that.
Tim Geithner and Barack Obama are saying that, and they are wrong, wrong, wrong.
Any senior management or Board members at busted institutions are out of the industry for life, with no exceptions. They are subject to fines and prosecution if their conduct of the business was criminal or fraudulent or financially irresponsible. There are 20-year old community college graduates who can manage the art of banking without fraud. Let them do so. To those financial wizards who object to this banishment, and wish to continue their careers, they may freely do so as soon as they have paid back the money they lost. It’s a job for honest men and women, not whiz kids, not masters of the universe.
Having nationalized the banking system in this manner, it will be a simple matter to move on to nationalizing health care, water, air, food and other things that a nation whose first duty is to its people would consider inalienable rights.
Alas, America’s first duty is to war upon other nations for their resources in whatever form is needed. America’s second duty is to war upon its own populace, who now need to live more like a Chinese farmer freshly arrived in Shanghai for a good factory job.
Or, as IBM recently offered, like an American laid off from an IBM job in America freshly arrived in Bangalore to do the same damn job for one quarter the pay, 12,000 miles from home.
In previous centuries, this economic state of affairs is what caused pilgrims to board ships and go start their own country. Where that proved impossible, there was a revolution right in the streets.
We are there.

Posted by: antifa | Feb 10 2009 18:01 utc | 19

@5 interesting point, the diffusion of disaffection even in idyllic Aspen. The forces of reaction are attritted and closing ranks. At a love-in on the hill there, at the Institute, I was sitting there with neocons, Bush admin officials, CFR guys, people could rightly regard me as their sworn enemy, saying just what I’d say here. They just sat there and said hmmm. They did not shut me up. Who did try to shut me up? Only Mssrs. Bigswingingdick from abjectly destitute failed financial institutions. The kleptocrats are fighting for survival, not dominance. They are winning, for now.

Posted by: …—… | Feb 10 2009 18:02 utc | 20

The Geithner “plan” is, it seems, absolutely clear. The media really have looked at it and understand it.
That is why they can tells us quite exactly how much it will cost.
USA Today – New Treasury plan aims to trigger $1 trillion in lending
Bloomberg – Geithner Says Toxic-Asset Investment Fund May Reach $1 Trillion
BBC – US unveils new $1.5 trillion plan
ABC News – $2 Trillion More – Gasp – to Rescue the Economy

Posted by: b | Feb 10 2009 18:11 utc | 21

antifa
we are there
you can hear it the panicked responses of commentators & experts – we witness them publically shitting their pants & the odour is strong
& slothrop is correct to suggest that this is a class war

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 10 2009 18:31 utc | 22

is there no spectacle less surprising than the heads of banks – these thieves – from hbos & the bank of scotland – telling the world that the knew nothing & understood less other than they deserved their bonuses
what a fucking circus
let it all burn down

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 10 2009 18:40 utc | 23

Ohh – some more money going out the backdoor? Fannie, Freddie Funding Needs May Pass $200 Billion, FHFA Says
And stocks down some 4+% tells something about Geithner too. How long will he have? 3 month? That would be too long.

Posted by: b | Feb 10 2009 19:25 utc | 24

Re the run on the banks posted at 4 by Uncle$cam:
Does anyone have an idea exactly is going on when a 550 billion run on banks in the span of a couple hours is stoppable by an FDIC insurance coverage increase to $250,000? Because it takes two million or so $250K accounts to get to 550 billion. What exactly is going on at the micro level in this case? Were two million people all emailing each other in a panic and reacting near-instantaneously?

Posted by: boxcar mike | Feb 10 2009 22:05 utc | 25

David 5) am not sure you would achieve your desired results, as nothing is linear, but applaud your characterization, it’s exactly that, a sports game to them: Me:US.
was able to put a bug in the ear of a very conservative, already retired, wealthy patron over the issue of capital gains tax cuts and their impact on the economy and deficit (self) interest. it was like turning the titanic around, but i used obm, bls etc federal statistics as grease, liberal applications of ‘the big picture’ as arm-twisting, guffaws at that bozo cramer’s bad calls as head-shaking, then as my patron slowly changed his views, that glimmer of hmmm, sent him ‘conquest of bread’ to read, ‘written by a prince’ i said, and threw a pinch of moa snuff in the fire.
kableuy! he had this inside information from his buddies on wall street, this was in may to september during bank liquidations, bank-broker bailouts and credit runs. it’s not a good thing to talk life-raft politics to a coal shoveler on the titanic! he’s lost money on emotional investments and counter trades, then had a melt-down.
the end result is another lone ranger, and more money moved higher up the pyramid.
?what good is a rabble of lone rangers, ruled over by the all-seeing eye of mordor?
?what good is knowing of the three obelisks, and the unholy fed-queen axis of evil? ?won’t that become a church in and of itself, another belief system, devil worship?
?did jesus and siddhartha waste time soliloquizing about politics and kleptocracy?

Posted by: Pig Malion | Feb 10 2009 23:16 utc | 26

b, I agree with your plan completely, and will add that I believe it is time to take control of the banking system out of private hands. Yes, that means abolition of the Federal Reserve and the creation of a Federal National Banking System. Current insolvent private banks should not be privatized with their attendant losses. Your plan for those banks is appropriate. Also, as others have mentioned, the Executive Management and Board of Directors should be barred from the financial world and prosecuted. All bonuses from the last several years should be paid back.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Feb 10 2009 23:55 utc | 27

Current insolvent private banks should not be privatized with their attendant losses.
That should have read Nationalized. It seems we are being conditioned and groomed to beg for Nationalization of this mess. It doesn’t smell right to me. Nationalization is just another way of socializing the losses to the masses and letting the Plutocracy off the hook to rob and plunder another day when they take it back private again.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Feb 11 2009 0:09 utc | 28

This is a letter-to-the-editor that I sent to the Washington Post today. The propoganda from supposedly one of the nation’s two papers of record has become intense.
Dear Editor:
I read with amazement your headline article of 2/10/09, “New Bailout May Top $1.5 Trillion.” There were at least two egregious errors in the first few paragraphs.
The authors stated in the second paragraph that, “The rest of the [bailout] money would come from other government agencies, such as the Federal Reserve, as well as private sector contributions.” The Federal Reserve is not a government agency. Your paper has run employment ads that stated that fact explicitly. The U.S. Government owns not a single share of the capital stock of the Federal Reserve, and the courts have ruled that the Fed is not a government agency, Lewis v. United States 680 F.2d 1239 (1982).
The second error is an error of omission. Nowhere was it explained who in the private sector would want to buy the “toxic assets” that the banks now hold. Moreover, the toxic assets are already in the private sector, so if they have value they should not be a problem to the holders. If they don’t have value, they will not be attractive to buyers.
The Post has, can and must do better.

Posted by: Jimmy Green | Feb 11 2009 2:26 utc | 29

Obama is going to want as much debate as possible on key issues such as this plan before he unveils all his cards. He has a plan & its not what the bankstas want. These are some very smart economists putting their heads together for Obama and he’s also considerably smarter than many accept.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Feb 11 2009 3:08 utc | 30

you really can’t expect not to have some chaos if Obama is making his economists rethink all their assumptions which at a minimum is what the situation calls for — Now lets break it down one more time

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Feb 11 2009 3:20 utc | 31

Obama is making his economists rethink all their assumptions which at a minimum is what the situation calls for
do you have any evidence of this?

Posted by: Lizard | Feb 11 2009 4:41 utc | 32

jony@31:…Obama is making his economists rethink all their assumptions which at a minimum is what the situation calls for
Don’t know if my first response to this fragment will appear, so I’ll just ask again: do you have any evidence Obama is trying to persuade his economists to “rethink all their assumptions”?
and what are those assumptions? that proven thieves who act with total impunity will somehow be compelled to start loaning their loot because the guy they showered with cash and enthroned in the Lie House has said publicly that’s what he want them to do?

Posted by: Lizard | Feb 11 2009 5:34 utc | 33

@29,
The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve is in effect a government agency and performs many functions for the Treasury Department, although they have some independence from Congress and the Executive branch by design. Board members are appointed by the Prez. The 12 regional Feds are owned by member banks. It’s all a contrivance, but it’s the only one in town.
The oldest, original, permanent, floating crap game in New York.
To extend the allusion- We all have cider in our collective ear, but don’t blame a conspiracy. It’s all in plain sight.

Posted by: biklett | Feb 11 2009 6:20 utc | 34

Down the well.

Posted by: biklett | Feb 11 2009 6:26 utc | 35

@33,
he just really seems the type and if I’m wrong, I’m going to have to re-think everything I know about the man

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Feb 11 2009 7:03 utc | 36

@34
The Banks are listed neither as “wholly owned” government corporations under 31 U.S.C. Sect. 846 nor as “mixed ownership” corporations under 31 U.S.C. Sect. 856, a factor considered is Pearl v. United States, 230 F.2d 243 (10th Cir. 1956), which held that the Civil Air Patrol is not a federal agency under the Act. Closely resembling the status of the Federal Reserve Bank, the Civil Air Patrol is a non-profit, federally chartered corporation organized to serve the public welfare. But because Congress’ control over the Civil Air Patrol is limited and the corporation is not designated as a wholly owned or mixed ownership government corporation under 31 U.S.C. Sub-Sect. 846 and 856, the court concluded that the corporation is a non-governmental, independent entity, not covered under the Act.
Additionally, Reserve Banks, as privately owned entities, receive no appropriated funds from Congress. . . .
Finally, the Banks are empowered to sue and be sued in their own name. 12 U.S.C. Sect. 341. They carry their own liability insurance and typically process and handle their own claims. In the past, the Banks have defended against tort claims directly, through private counsel, not government attorneys . . ., and they have never been required to settle tort claims under the administrative procedure of 28 U.S.C. Sect. 2672. The waiver of sovereign immunity contained in the Act would therefore appear to be inapposite to the Banks who have not historically claimed or received general immunity from judicial process.
[3] The Reserve Banks have properly been held to be federal instrumentalities for some purposes. In United States v. Hollingshead, 672 F.2d 751 (9th Cir. 1982), this court held that a Federal Reserve Bank employee who was responsible for recommending expenditure of federal funds was a “public official” under the Federal Bribery Statute. That statute broadly defines public official to include any person acting “for or on behalf of the Government.” . . . The test for determining status as a public official turns on whether there is “substantial federal involvement” in the defendant’s activities. United States v. Hollingshead, 672 F.2d at 754. In contrast, under the FTCA, federal liability is narrowly based on traditional agency principles and does not necessarily lie when the tortfeasor simply works for an entity, like the Reserve Banks, which perform important activities for the government.
[4, 5] The Reserve Banks are deemed to be federal instrumentalities for purposes of immunity from state taxation. . . . The test for determining whether an entity is a federal instrumentality for purposes of protection from state or local action or taxation, however, is very broad: whether the entity performs an important governmental function. . . . The Reserve Banks, which further the nation’s fiscal policy, clearly perform an important governmental function.
Performance of an important governmental function, however, is but a single factor and not determinative in tort claims actions. . . . State taxation has traditionally been viewed as a greater obstacle to an entity’s ability to perform federal functions than exposure to judicial process; therefore tax immunity is liberally applied. . . . Federal tort liability, however, is based on traditional agency principles and thus depends upon the principal’s ability to control the actions of his agent, and not simply upon whether the entity performs an important governmental function. . . .
Brinks Inc. v. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, 466 F.Supp. 116 (D.D.C.1979), held that a Federal Reserve Bank is a federal instrumentality for purposes of the Service Contract Act, 41 U.S.C. Sect. 351. Citing Federal Reserve Bank of Boston and Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, the court applied the “important governmental function” test and concluded that the term “Federal Government” in the Service Contract Act must be “liberally construed to effectuate the Act’s humanitarian purpose of providing minimum wage and fringe benefit protection to individuals performing contracts with the federal government.” Id. 288 Mich. at 120, 284 N.W.2d 667.
Such a liberal construction of the term “federal agency” for purposes of the Act is unwarranted. Unlike in Brinks, plaintiffs are not without a forum in which to seek a remedy, for they may bring an appropriate state tort claim directly against the Bank; and if successful, their prospects of recovery are bright since the institutions are both highly solvent and amply insured.
For these reasons we hold that the Reserve Banks are not federal agencies for purposes of the Federal Tort Claims Act and we affirm the judgement of the district court.
AFFIRMED.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8518

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 11 2009 7:59 utc | 37

@37,
And the Fed is specifically exempted from the National Labor Relations Act (No need to wonder why.). The workers do not have the right of union recognition, although there have been attempts in the past for the workers to form unions.
I’m not defending the set-up, I’m just sayin’ that, having worked there for 20 boring years, there are no secret handshakes or initiation rites, it’s mostly just a bunch of civil service types (but not actual civil service in the regional Feds) that are plugging away in their cubicles.

Posted by: biklett | Feb 11 2009 8:25 utc | 38

The FT’s chief columnist Martin Wolf Why Obama’s new Tarp will fail to rescue the banks

The banking programme seems to be yet another child of the failed interventions of the past one and a half years: optimistic and indecisive. If this “progeny of the troubled asset relief programme” fails, Mr Obama’s credibility will be ruined. Now is the time for action that seems close to certain to resolve the problem; this, however, does not seem to be it.
All along two contrasting views have been held on what ails the financial system. The first is that this is essentially a panic. The second is that this is a problem of insolvency.

Personally, I have little doubt that the second view is correct and, as the world economy deteriorates, will become ever more so. But this is not the heart of the matter. That is whether, in the presence of such uncertainty, it can be right to base policy on hoping for the best. The answer is clear: rational policymakers must assume the worst. If this proved pessimistic, they would end up with an over-capitalised financial system. If the optimistic choice turned out to be wrong, they would have zombie banks and a discredited government. This choice is surely a “no brainer”.
The new plan seems to make sense if and only if the principal problem is illiquidity. Offering guarantees and buying some portion of the toxic assets, while limiting new capital injections to less than the $350bn left in the Tarp, cannot deal with the insolvency problem identified by informed observers.

Why then is the administration making what appears to be a blunder? It may be that it is hoping for the best. But it also seems it has set itself the wrong question. It has not asked what needs to be done to be sure of a solution. It has asked itself, instead, what is the best it can do given three arbitrary, self-imposed constraints: no nationalisation; no losses for bondholders; and no more money from Congress. Yet why does a new administration, confronting a huge crisis, not try to change the terms of debate? This timidity is depressing. Trying to make up for this mistake by imposing pettifogging conditions on assisted institutions is more likely to compound the error than to reduce it.

The correct advice remains the one the US gave the Japanese and others during the 1990s: admit reality, restructure banks and, above all, slay zombie institutions at once. It is an important, but secondary, question whether the right answer is to create new “good banks”, leaving old bad banks to perish, as my colleague, Willem Buiter, recommends, or new “bad banks”, leaving cleansed old banks to survive. I also am inclined to the former, because the culture of the old banks seems so toxic.
By asking the wrong question, Mr Obama is taking a huge gamble. He should have resolved to cleanse these Augean banking stables. He needs to rethink, if it is not already too late.

Posted by: b | Feb 11 2009 10:41 utc | 39

boxcar mike 25)
I believe the story was reported somewhat incorrectly or Rep. Kanjorski didn’t get it quite right. In mid Sept a money market fund that had some investment in Lehman bonds broke the buck (lost money). The fear was that huge amounts would be withdrawn from money market funds forcing those funds to sell their US Treasury holdings or that the funds would sell substantial amounts just to get more liquid in anticipation of withdrawals. I don’t know about the $550 billion number but with the funds themselves being the sellers, each could be unloading billions of dollars worth of US Treasuries making the $550 billion number quite possible. At the time there was around $3.4 trillion in money market funds. The Fed quickly instituted a money market guarantee. This was not a bank run.
The FDIC insurance on bank accounts is an entirely different thing. Those limits were raised to $250,000 in early Oct. (Please don’t hold me to exact times and amounts.)

Posted by: Extinct Species | Feb 11 2009 10:45 utc | 40

The great misfortune for Mr. Geithner is that banks are not viewed in the U.S. as they are viewed in Britain. The U.S. saw that Britain was relieving its banks first and best and thought, “well, that’s cheaper than actually investing in the public.”
The problem is that in the U.S., banks have been the object of persistent and deep suspicion.
The banker is only a breath away from the con man.
And our dumbed down history has not changed that perception at all. You can make the people ignorant, yet the historical suspicion of bankers, the wealthy and the investing class will continue.
The conspiracy theories will multiply in these times.
And they will all have an element of truth in them. Because the “bailout” has not really helped the economy at all. One may argue that it has only enriched those who already have.
And the bank bailout is also an excuse for doing nothing meaningful for infrastructure, for not getting us out of empire and war, for refusing to re-negotiate these strangling international commitments, and for allowing the gulag begun at Guantanamo to remain in place.
The only difference between this admin and the illegitimate Bush regime so far is the rhetoric.

Posted by: crasmane | Feb 11 2009 12:59 utc | 41

It is interesting that Obama knows the right solution – nationalization, clean-up, privatize – but can not implement it because of U.S. culture:

MORAN: There are a lot of economists who look at these banks and they say all that garbage that’s in them renders them essentially insolvent. Why not just nationalize the banks?
OBAMA:Well, you know, it’s interesting. There are two countries who have gone through some big financial crises over the last decade or two. One was Japan, which never really acknowledged the scale and magnitude of the problems in their banking system and that resulted in what’s called “The Lost Decade.” They kept on trying to paper over the problems. The markets sort of stayed up because the Japanese government kept on pumping money in. But, eventually, nothing happened and they didn’t see any growth whatsoever.
Sweden, on the other hand, had a problem like this. They took over the banks, nationalized them, got rid of the bad assets, resold the banks and, a couple years later, they were going again. So you’d think looking at it, Sweden looks like a good model. Here’s the problem; Sweden had like five banks. [LAUGHS] We’ve got thousands of banks. You know, the scale of the U.S. economy and the capital markets are so vast and the problems in terms of managing and overseeing anything of that scale, I think, would — our assessment was that it wouldn’t make sense. And we also have different traditions in this country.
Obviously, Sweden has a different set of cultures in terms of how the government relates to markets and America’s different. And we want to retain a strong sense of that private capital fulfilling the core — core investment needs of this country.
And so, what we’ve tried to do is to apply some of the tough love that’s going to be necessary, but do it in a way that’s also recognizing we’ve got big private capital markets and ultimately that’s going to be the key to getting credit flowing again.

That will not work. The mess will get bigger and more banks will fail.
That may well change the “culture” and then allow for the real solution. Unfortunately the damage on the real economy will by then be much bigger than necessary.
Reminds me again on Churchill’s take: The U.S. always finds the right solution – after having tried all wrong ones.

Posted by: b | Feb 11 2009 14:27 utc | 42

Credit for biz owners and even new homeowners is not a problem and it is wrong of Obama and co. to present it that way. All that is peanuts…
Nationalization today doesn’t mean much – depends who is in control. It smacks of *socialism* so is a description / action that the US Gvmt. for PR reasons prefers to avoid. A Gvmt. already controlled by corps can twist things so that ppl accept it as proper (as it is in fact, and as many pple believe) and all rolls on as usual, and they do as they bloody well like.
Uncle’s Kanjorski link: link
He sounded perfectly sincere, genuine. He is, I guess, reporting a tall tale spun to senators. Catastrophic, chilling tales. They were left terrified and open mouthed…cowed and humbled..obliged to follow expert opinion…all lies I reckon…Rember, they signed on to the Patriot Act in the same way.

Posted by: Tangerine | Feb 11 2009 17:54 utc | 43

b@42,
one way of to look at the cultural gap between the USA & Sweden is that per-capita, you can sell more Volvos & Saabs in the USA than you can sell Cadillacs in Sweden.
And America needs a new ride so bad, even if its a Cadillac with a Volvo engine

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Feb 12 2009 2:00 utc | 44

Bubble Economy 2.0: The Financial Recovery Plan from Hell by Michael Hudson
According to Hudson, we are now at 11 TRILLION DOLLARS given away to the rich in the past four months, and counting.
He states, “The debt overhead far exceeds the economy’s ability to pay.”
Which begs the question: Incompetence, or Planning. Does every country have leaders who all independently come to the exact same disastrous policies? (Of course they arrive at their solutions independently — otherwise it would be a conspiracy, and that certainly won’t do.)
Later Hudson compares Obama’s disastrous policies directly to those undeertaken by Tony Bliar.
But anyway, we’re gonna have a real smashin’ Secretary of Labor, so who cares how many trillions Obama gives away? Am I right guys?

Posted by: Malooga | Feb 12 2009 4:21 utc | 45

@45
According to Hudson, we are now at 11 TRILLION DOLLARS given away to the rich in the past four months, and counting.
Obama’s been prez for four months already ???
Which begs the question: Incompetence, or Planning. Does every country have leaders who all independently come to the exact same disastrous policies? (Of course they arrive at their solutions independently — otherwise it would be a conspiracy, and that certainly won’t do.)
OK, so the Brits hate Blair now because he privatized the railroads and the trains do’nt run on time anymore.
Obama are you listening: please do’nt privatize Amtrak.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Feb 12 2009 9:14 utc | 46

You know, I went back into the archives to check my memory, and yes, jony_b_cool, you used to post some trenchant analysis.
To my mind, you are a perfect example of what happens when one “drinks the kool aid.”
First, the focus becomes distorted: Every argument becomes about Obama, instead of the country and the world.
Second, rational argument and the marshalling of facts goes right out the door. Hudson is one of the few economists I respect these days. He predicted everything we are going through over 18 months ago (when all the mainstream economists were saying that things are fine), and has been on the ball ever since. You might do well to read the Hudson article before you criticize it.
No one is claiming that Obama is responsible for current conditions, or that Bush wasn’t President at the beginning of the year. Those are red herrings, as you well know: deceitful methods of debating which convince noone with intelligence and only make you look small.
What I am claiming — and I’m prepared to cite numerous sources — is that there is very little difference between this administration’s response, and the previous one’s. And that leaders’ responses around the world have a certain chilling unanimity: Funnel hundreds of billions to the banksters, then attempt to cut back social benefits by several billion because “there is no money” — when they could have merely funneled three billion less to the banksters, and not have attempted to cut social benefits. Obama has already signalled that he intends to cut social benefits in ways that even Bush couldn’t. If you would like to argue that those cuts are necessary — for whatever reason — go ahead and make your best neo-liberal argument.
Finally, I believe you are probably the only person on this blog willing to stand up for Tony Bliar. But at least get your facts right. What is at issue here are the “Public-Private Investment Funds” which Bliar pioneered and which Obama is now championing. Hudson goes to great lengths to detail how these structures will NOT help the pinched middle and lower classes as deceptively promised by Obama — but will funnel even more money, profits, and control to the financial class. You might do well to spend some time at Richard Seymour’s blog, “Lenin’s Tomb” if you are interested in understanding the financial machinations of Bliar, and how — despite his soaring rhetoric — he screwed over the populace there, and is now held in ignomy.
What is it with you and Obama: are you in love with him or something? Your ability to argue persuasively has degenerated into sarcastic swill like this: “Obama are you listening: please do’nt privatize Amtrak.” Your arguments are no longer worth taking seriously or addressing. You sound more like Obama’s new Hasbara corps.
However, in deference to your sensitivities, and to my sense that Presidents do not run the show alone, but at best, manage an entire team, I will restrict my critisicms to “the current administration” when speaking about domestic issues, and “the new imperial management” when speaking about foreign issues.
And I will ignore anything which is not a sourced coherent argument. If you want to wallow in the gutter that is your right and privilege.

Posted by: Malooga | Feb 12 2009 13:25 utc | 47

@Malooga #47
Oh yeah!

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 12 2009 13:58 utc | 48

@47
I will restrict my critisicms to “the current administration” when speaking about domestic issues, and “the new imperial management when speaking about foreign issues.”
this is like saying you are going to criticize the coach on defense but its the owner who gets your criticism on offense. ?????????

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Feb 12 2009 14:12 utc | 49

U$:
How come, on a previous thread, you said that Webster Tarpley and David Ray Griffin were disinfo agents?
Tarpley was the other guy besides Hudson to fairly accurately predict current events eighteeen months out, and also illuminated Obama’s support within the international neo-liberal financial community. Yes, he is excitable at times, and not always accurate, but who is these days?
Griffin, too, I happen to like. He is willing to indict Cheney, admit when he is wrong and refine his arguments, and asks very pertinent questions.
I respect you a lot, and I hope you have the time to give me a serious answer. I am very interested in your thinking on this.

Posted by: Malooga | Feb 12 2009 14:20 utc | 50

@49:
It is saying that I will criticize the team as a whole.

Posted by: Malooga | Feb 12 2009 14:42 utc | 51

Meanwhile, more Class War Funnies, courtesy of Huffpo:
“Why not allow recently laid off workers to apply their unemployment benefits toward their next job in the form of a voucher?”

Posted by: Tantalus | Feb 12 2009 14:56 utc | 52

And some more:
Pennsylvania Judges lock up kids in kickback scam.

Posted by: Tantalus | Feb 12 2009 16:20 utc | 53