So Britain is also bankrupt?
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January 21, 2009
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So Britain is also bankrupt? Open Thread …
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Vancouver Sun Posted by: edwin | Jan 21 2009 19:46 utc | 2 aren’t we all bankrupt? Posted by: sabine | Jan 21 2009 20:26 utc | 3 i continue to rent and buy with cash, i like the flexibility that comes with it, i sleep better that way. I’m sure you’re right the financial sector in UK has been too big, and it will go down the drain.
Posted by: Alex | Jan 21 2009 20:52 utc | 5 come on down for your freedom medals – john pilger(h/t copeland) Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 21 2009 21:17 utc | 6
From the very excellent DUI Blog. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 21 2009 21:24 utc | 7
Sydney Morning Herald via CityofSound. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 21 2009 21:37 utc | 8 the contemptible creature livni leading the europeans at the eu in thei babitual dance of betrayal to the palestinians Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 21 2009 21:42 utc | 9 the contemptible creature livni leading the europeans at the eu in thei babitual dance of betrayal to the palestinians Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 21 2009 21:43 utc | 10 Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 21 2009 22:14 utc | 11 Pilger:
h/t giap
“..more difficult.” Such optimism is so very refreshing. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 21 2009 22:28 utc | 12 Someone much wiser than I once wrote:
I fear I’m becoming one of these people, and I don’t want to be. As a *very* long time reader, I may come across in many of my comments as “hey I own the place, too”, when I realize indeed, it is quite the opposite. Many of the heads that visit this blog are astonishingly bright, and I think my casual relationship (“I post on days when I have the time” yada yada..)has been a bit less than respectful of people’s time. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 21 2009 22:56 utc | 13 oh dear,
and this is what i am afraid of, misery, pure misery worldwide. Posted by: sabine | Jan 21 2009 22:59 utc | 14 Drunkasarule Posted by: watcher | Jan 21 2009 23:26 utc | 15 In France, 80 organisations are working to bring war crimes indictments against Israel’s leaders. Posted by: annie | Jan 21 2009 23:41 utc | 16 “And then what?” Posted by: James Crow | Jan 21 2009 23:43 utc | 17 WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama will move quickly to name a Middle East envoy and is strongly considering former Sen. George Mitchell for the job, sources familiar with the matter said on Tuesday. Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Jan 21 2009 23:44 utc | 18 james crow Posted by: sabine | Jan 22 2009 0:06 utc | 19 RUSSIA RE-ENTERS THE GWOT BUSINESS Posted by: Jackobal Traidz | Jan 22 2009 0:26 utc | 20 this film ‘memories of rain’ is really really an extraordinary document. knowing a little something about the underground – it is the only documentary that deals with everything that that entails including the necessity of becoming the opposite of what you really are Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 0:40 utc | 22 what an extraordinary film Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 1:34 utc | 23 The next phase in our development? Or, “And the band played on”…
Also, IT WOULD BE EASY FOR TERRORISTS TO … Ah, just shaddup already
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Any questions? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 22 2009 1:58 utc | 24 U$@24 Posted by: David | Jan 22 2009 2:30 utc | 25
John Robb paints us a picture. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 22 2009 3:49 utc | 26 Agree with you David re HIV ≠ AIDS. Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 22 2009 3:51 utc | 27 I am indeed irish and drunk as a rule is a line out of a famous irish song – the irish rover Posted by: drunkasarule | Jan 22 2009 4:44 utc | 28 CIA Director Hayden talks about torture. “Yeah, we did it, but our motives were pure…” Posted by: Obelix | Jan 22 2009 4:49 utc | 29 rgiap 23) the past is a lie where dreams die Posted by: Georg Was Never Here | Jan 22 2009 5:16 utc | 30 It seems the israeli plan to hide their crimes by keeping the media out of Gaza hasn’t suceeded in concealing all the psychopathic behaviour of the IDF. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 22 2009 6:04 utc | 31 powerful Pilger piece r’giap. Posted by: ran | Jan 22 2009 6:06 utc | 32 there is so much more tragedy debs, the counting has just begun. i remember reading about that family @ the guardian link a few days ago. they just shot them. Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2009 6:29 utc | 33 Obama had to repeat his pledge because he didn’t spell it out correcly the first time. Posted by: Stephane | Jan 22 2009 8:08 utc | 34
Wilson Center via A&L Daily. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 22 2009 8:17 utc | 35 Seems my son, trying to attend the big Obama Day Celebration, got caught in the purple tunnel of doom boondoggle instead. He’s interviewed by ABC here, and told me tonight up to 30,000 young and old Obama faithful (purple ticket holders from all around the country) were stuck in in a freeway tunnel (there’s a metaphor for ya!) in teens low teens freezing temps. for 5 hours, no police presence no toilets, no emergency capacity, and ended up missing the whole shabang. Posted by: anna missed | Jan 22 2009 8:35 utc | 36 Thanks to Uncle $cam and David @ 24 and 25. One can only wonder if something along these lines is going to be “surfaced” to further some nefarious agenda. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jan 22 2009 10:03 utc | 37 One small triumph for democracy versus hereditary aristocracy. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jan 22 2009 10:16 utc | 38 A partial (self)-response to a point raised in 37: Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jan 22 2009 11:00 utc | 39 Of all the bullshit conspiracy theories which make me want smash the perpetrators heads against a wall for being so stupid, the worst one, far worse than all the 911 ‘arabs are too dumb to have done it’ racism is HIV doesn’t cause AIDS. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 22 2009 11:03 utc | 40 Debs id dead @ 40 Posted by: Fred | Jan 22 2009 12:25 utc | 41 Fred@41Thanks! Posted by: David | Jan 22 2009 13:41 utc | 42 Yes David @42 Posted by: Fred | Jan 22 2009 14:29 utc | 43 re @35
Posted by: b real | Jan 22 2009 15:49 utc | 44 b real@44 Posted by: David | Jan 22 2009 16:04 utc | 45 Another good reason to invade Iran: they gassed Italians! Posted by: L’Akratique | Jan 22 2009 16:05 utc | 46 Hey Bernhard Paul Craig Roberts has publicy catch your purpose about CDS. Do you think that this position will gain enough steam to prevent the worst scenarios?? Posted by: C.A. | Jan 22 2009 16:22 utc | 47 Hey Bernhard Paul Craig Roberts has publicy catch your purpose about CDS. Do you think that this position will gain enough steam to prevent the worst scenarios?? Posted by: C.A. | Jan 22 2009 16:25 utc | 48 For Israel the issue now is not just guns but also butter as Israel cannot revitalize its moribund economy nor recoup its spent WMDs thrown at Gaza the way German weapons were thrown at a surrounded and strangled Warsaw Ghetto. Some Israelis have chosen to do onto the Palestinians what the Germans did onto the Jews– that makes them “Zionazis”! In fact, their lebensraum policy– not HAMAS trash-can rockets– that produced thousands of empty houses at US taxpayers’ expense for non-existent olims. Sharon’s command that by 2020 all Jews must make the Great Aliyah to Israel or they will be damned because “they will lose their Jewish souls,” was fell on deaf Diaspora ears. Today 78% of all the “settlers’ homes” built are empty because there are no settlers; these edifices are merely “facts on the ground” for Greater Israel expansionism. HAMAS, an Egyptian Muslim Fundamentalist group, was brought to Gaza by Sharon in hope that it would destroy the PLO, a Palestinian secular nationalist leader recognized as representative of the Palestinians by the world. BUT THERE IS ONE ISRAELI GOAL THAT EXPLAINS EVERY BULLET, MISSILE OR PHOSPHOROUS BOMB THROWN BY THE IDF: TO KILL THE PALESTINIANS THAT WILL NOT LEAVE WITH A BRUTAL “IRON WALL.” Now here’s the problem with that. The Israel the Zionazis built is a 60 years old expanding fetus of a state living off an engorged American $ placenta. But the US is now broke, so the placenta will shrivel. Livni hoped to create an anti-Semitic backfire to Stampede Diaspora Jews to Israel with all their assets. But most World Jewry deems Israel a nice place to visit but they wouldn’t want to live there. So, no more money from a broke US…no more olims for the Great Aliyah. The future looks bleak for Israel as a nation unless Iran gets its puny A-bomb and the Arabs run to Israel’s nuclear umbrella for deterrent security. And, as we lose our addiction to Arab oil, Arab leaders will realize that their nations can’t live as one crop (oil) banana republics without violent revolutions. If Israel creates a common economy with the Palestinians in a two-states format, the Palestinians will serve as Israel’s brokers for integration of Israel into the region. It can then lead its neighbors to high-tech modernization, thus becoming what the Founding Fathers of Zionism had originally hoped for: that Israel become “a light onto the [Arab] nations.” That requires that Israel be ruled by decedents of the Progressives who originated that idea and saw the poison of “lebensraum Zionazism”– their term, not mine–for what it is. Learning to speak Arabic will do more for Israel’s security that learning to fly a bomber. The placenta is shriveled and the garbage spewed by that hefty trash bag, Abe Foxman, will never rein gorge it again. A few years ago, at a Zionist Conference, he apologized for not focusing on Zionism because his so-called ‘Anti-Defamation League” was too busy fighting “assimilation” by cursing groups like Jews for Jesus as anti-Semites. Well, 50% and growing of Jews are so assimilated that Israel is no more to them than a Holy Land to visit. The Diaspora is very loyal to its homelands in Europe and America, not to the Great Aliyah. The Diaspora will not be stampeded by a call to form a Fifth Column for the Zionazis. So Israel must invariably become an integrated leader of the Arabs, its long lost cousins, into modernity for the sake of Jews and Muslims alike. Bush and Sharon made that inevitable by rendering any other solution untenable; and political opportunism by Olmert, Livni and Barak has only made them a footnote in a shameful bloody Zionazi history, discrediting lebensraum’s immoral means and ends. I pray the anti-Semitism that these three tried to provoke in order to force a Great Aliyah in fear is as dead as the Zionazi dream of a Jewish state from the Nile to the Euphrates. Posted by: DE Teodoru | Jan 22 2009 17:05 utc | 49 @b real – any idea what to expect from these folks?
Many of the people I knew who were HIV, never, ever got sick. Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2009 18:28 utc | 51 @ b #50
Posted by: b real | Jan 22 2009 18:55 utc | 52 I read years ago that private debt in Britain outweighed private income: in other words, the nation was living off its credit cards. Posted by: ralphieboy | Jan 22 2009 19:20 utc | 53 @51 Annie, Posted by: biklett | Jan 22 2009 19:43 utc | 54 i want to again sing the praises of the film memories of rain Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 19:59 utc | 55 & just as i write the us administration has appointed richard holbrooke & george mitchell. that is the deat of good intentions just there. Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 20:10 utc | 56 Ok – Mitchell really gets the Middle East job in Obama’s crew. Much better than the Israeli tool Dennis Ross and others. Let’s see if he can do something. Most likely the lobby will try to shoot him down over some made-up “scandal” and so it beginns
story here:http://www.northfulton.com/Articles-i-2009-01-22-176487.114126_Victim_Jan_fire_in_Forsyth_due_to_support_of_Obama.html Posted by: sabine | Jan 22 2009 20:18 utc | 58 b Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 20:29 utc | 60 annie, I watched “Tales of the City” while I lived there but that show was SF during a different time. Sad it ended like it did… I’ve always wondered if there wasn’t some religious nut case in the shadows… Posted by: David | Jan 22 2009 20:59 utc | 61 In 1982, AIPAC focused much of its horsepower on bringing about my defeat. I was the lobby’s number one target that year and an examination of its expenditures would surely show outlays aimed at “influencing” my bid for re-election far exceeding the $1,000 legal limit. During the same year, AIPAC weighed in heavily in Maine, helping to pull off the upset victory of George Mitchell over Representative David Emory. Mitchell had never before won an election. In a post-election call Mitchell thanked AIPAC’s Dine for his critical support and said, “I will remember you.” Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 20:59 utc | 62 remembereringgiap Posted by: David | Jan 22 2009 21:20 utc | 63 obama today equates the deaths of 3 israelis for all those of martyrised gaza – then repeats a bushism in relation to hamas & then to add insult to injury announces two men who have their hands thick not only with their relation to aipac but to hoodlums of the old school like john negroponte Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 23:29 utc | 65
Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 22 2009 23:52 utc | 66 Annie and Biklett it is good to see that some people can still remember what happened in those awful times without deflecting the memories through filters of prejudice and ignorance. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 23 2009 0:42 utc | 68 The Physics of 911 Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 23 2009 0:52 utc | 69 Debs thanks for the links, Posted by: David | Jan 23 2009 1:33 utc | 70 66 was me. Posted by: annie | Jan 23 2009 2:30 utc | 71 r’giap – i plan to watch that film this w/e when i can give it my full attention Posted by: b real | Jan 23 2009 3:33 utc | 72 annie, Deb is dead and Fred-Regarding HIV and AIDS.
How’s that for a tick, tick, ticking time bomb? The way the virus lurks has been the cause of why so many people (like me) remain confused about the link between AIDS/HIV. Reading up on it is pretty creepy, there seems to be so much new information it’s too bad I didn’t find it sooner.
Now, is it just me and my sombrero, or does this reek of the science lab? Posted by: David | Jan 23 2009 10:39 utc | 73 Oh dear….HIV and AIDS…I agree with Debs that what I would call ‘counter scientific arguments’ about the link between the two border on the criminal, because they impact prevention, treatment and research negatively. Thabo Mbeki, for ex. is responsible for countless deaths. I’m sorry but the posts that deny the relationship are nonsense, pseudo-scientific claptrap, with some correct facts mixed in. Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 23 2009 10:53 utc | 74 The posts about the black death and AlQ intruiged me. I looked up the Algerian press. Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 23 2009 11:07 utc | 75 biklett, your post resonated thru out my dreams last night. sorry about your mom. Posted by: annie | Jan 23 2009 18:06 utc | 76
Found at Slate. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 23 2009 19:51 utc | 77
Additional money, my ass. it was so they could arrest anybody without the burden of, y’know…investigatin’ ‘n’ stuff. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 23 2009 20:09 utc | 78
via the excellent Subtopia. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 23 2009 20:13 utc | 79 obama sends in the drones – didn’t take long http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5575883.ece Posted by: drunkasarule | Jan 23 2009 20:22 utc | 80 from drunkasarule “link”:
good wars, bad wars Posted by: sabine | Jan 23 2009 21:25 utc | 81 yep. and it sure didn’t take long for obama to become an official child killer. Posted by: b real | Jan 23 2009 21:27 utc | 82 breal Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 23 2009 21:42 utc | 83 yep, turns out Mr. Changiness is just another in a long and distinctly undistinguished line of blood-soaked mass murderers who believe we have the right, nay the responsibility to play judge, jury and executioner anywhere in the world we want. Posted by: ran | Jan 23 2009 22:58 utc | 84 & in latin america – it seems u s policy will not change at all Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 24 2009 3:02 utc | 85 Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 24 2009 3:06 utc | 86 the demonic dershowitz at it again – this apologist for torture dives even further into degradation – i won’t even link to shit like that Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 24 2009 3:14 utc | 87 59 min vid interview w/ International lawyer Phillipe Sands
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 24 2009 3:28 utc | 88 Good link, Lizard: many thanks. Posted by: Tantalus | Jan 24 2009 5:10 utc | 90 lizard, good read, heart warming indeed. Posted by: sabine | Jan 24 2009 6:18 utc | 91 The Messiah’s hands are already stained with sacrificial blood. Posted by: ThePaper | Jan 24 2009 7:26 utc | 92 “… only natural to experience a twinge of anxiety while celebrating at the edge of an abyss” Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 24 2009 7:42 utc | 93 hugo chavez is submitting a column in a number of journals in venezuela – it is an important gesture – i quote it in full Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 24 2009 19:16 utc | 94 Charles Tilly – War Making and State Making as Organized Crime. Posted by: Jeremiah | Jan 24 2009 19:19 utc | 95 via dk
Posted by: sabine | Jan 24 2009 19:26 utc | 97 my american friends here are really going to have to explain to me – why i shouldn’t see the ‘developments’ in this administration especially over gaza – with dark foreboding Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 24 2009 19:28 utc | 99 |
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