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January 15, 2009
On Hamas’ Performance In Gaza

There is some discussion in the thread below about the performance of Hamas as a military force.

Hamas never was a military organization. It is and was a social movement with an attached small military wing. Think Sinn Féin and IRA maybe.

I tried to answer the question about the possible military Hamas performance on January 5 discussing actual Hamas' fighter numbers:

In 2006 Hizbullah in Lebanon was said to have 600 to 1,000 active fighters and some 5,000 reservist. Given the size of Gaza I estimate that there are probably 200 to 400 active Hamas fighters in Gaza with less than 1,000 reservists and people in training.

Hamas has lots of people in its social/political functions. But it only has very few fighters in a tightly closed guerrilla force. While Israel has spies within the social Hamas movement, note how it brags about attacks enabled by these on the higher political functionaries, it seems to have little intelligence access to the military wing.

But such a small force, with obviously no access to modern weaponry, can only do so much.

The point for Hamas military wing is not to kill IDF troops, but to demonstrate that they can continue to lob rockets on Israel. That is their only available method to press on Israel to lift the devastating inhuman total blockade of Gaza. As long as Hamas and other organizations launch rockets, and miraculously they still can, they have won as Israel has thereby not achieved the main stated goal of its operation.

Meanwhile the Israelis shoot at anything that moves and, when perceiving anything as "threat", bomb the hell out of it before moving forward.

McClatchy had a good story one the "rules of engagement" the Israeli forces are under (somehow that one quickly vanished from their homepage): Israeli soldiers say they have OK to use tough tactics in Gaza

When Israeli soldiers saw a suspected suicide bomber riding a bike towards them, they moved quickly. As the man ducked into a building for safety, Israeli soldiers said they used a bulldozer to bring the walls down on top of him.

So a suspected "suicide bomber" "ducks to safety". Why? Afraid of death?

"We came in very strong," said Yehuda, a battalion commander with Israel's Givati infantry regiment. "Our doctrine is to take over our assigned positions, purging any resistance and then fanning out as required, repeating the process."

"With all the regret over the harm to innocent people, I'm not prepared for a soldier of mine to get killed because of a terrorist who is hiding in a house with civilians," an unnamed Israeli officer told Israel's Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper. "Hamas brought this on its own civilians."

Sure, and the Nazis just had to have gas chambers because Jews resisted their lunatic policies?

If there's been any major surprise for Israeli soldiers in Gaza, it has been the relatively weak resistance they've faced from Hamas.

Gaza militants have fired more advanced rockets at southern Israeli cities. Soldiers said, however, that they haven't faced Hamas fighters armed with significant new weapons.

A lot of the prewar propaganda was Israeli hyping about the tens of thousands of Hamas fighters and all the sophisticated weapons it was supposed to have. That was just that – hype and propaganda to justify the obliteration of the people in Gaza and to kill off the social movement, once nurtured by Israel as counterweight to the "terrorists" PLO, that became inconvenient to its plans.

Sitting on his hospital bed with a broken wrist and burns across half his face, [Israeli army sergeant] S. said Hamas had failed in its efforts to emulate Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon who'd put up a surprisingly effective fight against Israeli forces in 2006.

"You can't compare it," he said. "Hezbollah is a much more organized army. Hamas, they usually run away."

The sergeant does not understand the Hamas operation.

They will harass the Israeli force if needed and where possible without losing capacity. But the main aim of Hamas is to keep the pressure on Israel by launching rockets.

The Israelis are working with a theory that they need to kill 25% of Hamas fighters to end its "system". The theory itself is a largely false and lousy application of system dynamics in social fields (I tried such an SD application on economic systems in my never finished doctoral thesis and found that it does not apply in the social realm at all.)

So far the Israelis have killed so far maybe 1,500-5,000 people in Gaza. Given the indiscriminate killing they use those are "only" 0.1%-0.35% of the population there. Half of those kids. The percentage on the small population of Hamas fighters might be a bit higher, but not near anything of the 25% they plan to achieve.

To kill 25% of Hamas' military wing, absent of a decisive intelligence break, 25% of all people in Gaza would have to be killed. Maybe even more as Israel does not know who is in that military wing and obviously does not know enough on where they hideto prevent them from operating.

Hamas of course has for years analyzed the Israeli military thinking and adopted to counter it.

Do not trust the Israeli media. They are censored by law on any military issue. Do not trust the Hamas media. They need to keep up their people's will by any means.

BBC and Al Jazeera try and partly succeed to lift the current fog of war a bit. But they can only do so much. What really happens now will only be publicly known later on.

For now the quite lousy Hamas rockets and mortars landing on Israeli ground are the real numerical measure of the fight. There are still 20-30 of those incoming each day.

Given the size and ruthlessness of the Israeli campaign, Hamas, on that count, has already won.

The fight is about the blockade which resulted in at least half of the 750,000 children in Gaza being under nourished and the rockets are the only way to break that state. The bodycount, while emotionally devastating for everyone, is not the issue at all.

Comments

nah, they just got organised. http://www.counterpunch.org/

Posted by: outsider | Jan 15 2009 21:26 utc | 1

that’s the complete link
http://www.counterpunch.org/lamb01142009.html

Posted by: outsider | Jan 15 2009 21:30 utc | 2

Sorry outsider – Franklin Lamb usually has some bits of information, but his interpretation/analysis of that is usually wrong. He is drunk on Hezbollah cool-aid that isn’t even from Hezbollah but only his own imagination.
He is a propagandist by is own right. Take him with care.

Posted by: b | Jan 15 2009 21:55 utc | 3

Thanks for the thoughtful analysis to the issues I was trying to raise. Part of my question comes down to the point:
What is the reason for the Qassams?
You argue that “That is their only available method to press on Israel to lift the devastating inhuman total blockade of Gaza.”
But for the Qassams to be effective in that regard, they must cause Israel some damage, or at least some pain. I don’t see that they do that. They kill so few people that they have not military effect. Israel doesn’t really care about a few civilian casualties, it cares about military casualties. Israel has proven it can absorb 10,000 Qassams without blinking.
Qassams ONLY have an effect at very rare times, like now, when they have the potential to throw an election to the opposition by embarrassing the current government. But that government is now demonstrating it has an answer to that as well: a massive invasion of Gaza has something like 90% approval in Israel.
Now Qassams BACKED by an effective guerilla force, I could understand: it puts Israel in a bind in which negotiation is the only way out. But if the Qassams cannot cause pain, and Gaza cannot extract casualties by playing defense, then where is this going?
As a strategy it starts to look like suffering nobly and wait for the world to rescue you. I can’t believe Palestinians serious believe anyone but themselves can save themselves.
The Qassams need to be backed by a more effective ground defense of Gaza, or they can’t work in their current form.

Posted by: Bill | Jan 15 2009 21:58 utc | 4

it is as you say – but i am surprised at the puff pices being spoken about the death of one of the political leadership of hamas who was bombed at his grothers home – hardly an intelligence coup – he lived publically & made no attempt to hide himself
there is a myth both about mossad in particular & military intelligence in general. the much hyped ‘wrath of god’ hit not one of the people, not one of those responsible for the hostage taking at the munich olympics. no, like the easy assasins they are – they killed very soft targets who happened to be popular figures in the countries they lived in & represented a public relations problem – it was an ugly thing to do & finished very ugly indeed at its ‘end’ killing a moroccan waiter in norway who happens to have been apart of the family of the singer with the group ‘gypsy kings’
barak’s litte melodrama in beirut was also not particularly succesful other than being wanton acts of murder – sleeping poets, old functionaries & then plain innocents in the streets of lebanon
i am sure the very difficult situation in the occupied territories creates situations where informers exist – & that should come as no surprise but i imagine that the military leadership is more or less impregnable – partially as you say b – because that group would be very very small
in any case – i do not see method on the part of israel – like it’s master – us imperialism – their only tactic/strategy/plan is nothing more intelligent than brute force. yes it may have won warsaw, lodz, crakow, vilnius, riga – but anhilation has a habit of turning in on itself

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 15 2009 22:06 utc | 5

Also to take into account that it isn’t just Hamas fighting or trying to inflict casualties to the colonial non-army of baby killers. There are other smaller or even similar in size groups operating in Gaza like the Islamic Jihad (which has always been linked by the colonial propaganda intelligence sources as being more connected with Hezbollah and Iran than Hamas), secular or leftist palestinian groups or even some ex-Fatah splinter groups. However those groups are likely to have even less supplies than Hamas (as Hamas had control of the tunnels after they expelled the Dahlan gangsters).
To some extend that was also truth in the Lebanon war as when someone is bombing your towns there will always be plenty of hot blooded youngster wanting to pay back the terrorists. And Lebanon is heavely fractioned into militias of all kind. Of course Hezbollah is much better equiped and provide the bulk of the fireworks but when you reach the level of street by street fighting anybody can take a chance (and likely die, but may be it’s better to die fighting than covering on a UN school …).

Posted by: ThePaper | Jan 15 2009 22:17 utc | 6

bill @4 – But for the Qassams to be effective in that regard, they must cause Israel some damage, or at least some pain. I don’t see that they do that. They kill so few people that they have not military effect. Israel doesn’t really care about a few civilian casualties, it cares about military casualties. Israel has proven it can absorb 10,000 Qassams without blinking.
You seem not to have read the Israeli press on the issue as I daily do. There is persistent high level right wing public/political pressure on their government to stop the qassam attacks no matter how little damage they do.
The Israeli government could do so, by lifting the blockade, but refrains from it. You may want to judge the reasons for that.

Posted by: b | Jan 15 2009 22:21 utc | 7

Atzmon.
http://tinyurl.com/7acugt
Hamas is still there; its support within the Palestinian street is stronger than ever. But it is not only the Palestinian street.  Hamas’ message of defiance is spreading all over the Muslim world and beyond. Last week I was marching in London together with another 100,000 protesters. The support for Hamas was all around. It was on placards, flags, headbands and loudspeakers.  Not only is Hamas far from being defeated, its rocket launching capability seems to be unaffected. Day after day Hamas combatants manage to remind Israelis in Ashdod, Ashkelon and Sderot that they actually live on stolen Palestinian land. Give Hamas the necessary time and the ballistic message will be carried to every corner of stolen Palestine.
[snip]
The Israeli army is stuck once again.
If this is not enough, within a few days Obama is going to reside in the White House and the Israelis are not totally convinced that the new American president will blindly support their murderous strategy.
/grain of salt

Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Jan 15 2009 22:22 utc | 8

I do read the Israeli press regularly (though only Haaretz daily). I’m aware of the discussions and the high-level mouthing of pious slogans. But as you say, if the rockets really hurt, Israel could end them tomorrow. Israel doesn’t, which tells me that the rockets don’t really hurt EXCEPT at certain times like elections.
I agree with that point, but if all the Qassams can do is threaten to change Knesset leadership from one violent zionist party to another, then there is a limit to what they can usefully accomplish for the Palestinians.

Posted by: Bill | Jan 15 2009 22:31 utc | 9

The Qassam was the main excuse that the brutal colonial government used to start the terrorist bombing of Gaza. Some could say that if even after three weeks Hamas is still launching rockets the effectiveness of the colonial gang of baby killers in achieving their public objectives is quite embarrasing. Just like it was when they couldn’t stop Hezbollah from sending back rockets to them.
However there is also the conspiracionist view says that the rockets are just the excuse to keep the bombing going, and partly backed by the fact that the Qassam/mortar/firework danger was and is just a lame excuse (as if they care about a few ethiopian or arabs suffering from ‘shock’ other than for propaganda purposes). Similar to those fake (in the sense that ‘no one’ is launching them) rockets fired from Lebanon the last days.
The bombing seems slated to finish just before the 20th one way or another. So anything else may be just smoke and mirrors (just like today’s ‘high profile’ killing of a Hamas minister to give the impression that results are being achieved) for the enjoyment of us little common mortals.
At this point it’s not fully clear if something will be ‘achieved’ or the situation will keep as it was before the bombing started. Can they insert Fatah operatives back in Gaza? Who is really going to keep watch of the land and sea frontier with Egypt? How effective is going that watch to be? Is the embargo really going to be lifted even if Hamas keeps control of Gaza?

Posted by: ThePaper | Jan 15 2009 22:36 utc | 10

I have to agree with Bill. Not everyone can be Hizbullah and this is no criticism of Hamas fighters. Gaza is indefensible and unsupportable. Hamas could never get the weapons Hizb has, can not defend in depth in such a tiny sliver of land and does not have hilly rocky terrain, which is both defensible and limits the enemy’s use of armor.
The Qassams are trivial. Hizb’s missiles did much more dammage and forced a huge portion of the populace into bunkers. No one was watching that war from lawn chairs. More importantly, they have no capacity for escalation. Throughout the Lebanon war you heard Israeli officials speak of tremendous retaliation if Hizb struck Tel Aviv. Implicit in the statement is that Israel would be more “restrained” if they did not.
Thus, this leaves Hamas with only the symbolic nature of defiance. That is not unimportant, but it is not enough leverage to force Israel to concede a key point such as border openings. Hamas should have payed less attention to Israel and applied all possible pressure on Mubarak to open the border.

Posted by: Lysander | Jan 15 2009 22:37 utc | 11

And where do you think Mubarak takes his marching orders from? And what do you think is the fallout of Mubarak plain-to-every-arab-to-see backing of the terrorist bombings? Getting the arab populations enraged against their puppet governments looks like good preassure to me.
Do you think that launching Qassams to Egypt would be effective?Would be of any use keep arguing and scheming with a regime that hates you and is always attempting to backstab your efforts? Remember that Hamas is the palestinian brand of the Muslim Brotherhood, the main opposition to Mubarak’s regime, and that it won power by democratic elections (they can identify quite well with the palestinian collaborators of Fatah and don’t want to repeat their mistakes). How do you expect Hamas to preasure such government? Mubarak likely fears Hamas, by their example on the arab population, much more than the colony does (same for the Saudis fearing Hezbollah and their iranian backed effectiveness).

Posted by: ThePaper | Jan 15 2009 23:16 utc | 12

No firing Qassams into Egypt would serve no purpose. But destroying the border fence/wall again would be a start. Mass public demonstrations around the wall, perhaps organizing a massive crowd to storm the fence.
These tactics might not have worked, but they should have been tried. And tried again and again. Yes Mubarak was probably under tremendous pressure from above. But he is vulnerable to pressure from below and it should have been tried. At the very least, it might have permitted Mubarak to point this pressure out to the west and tell them “I have no choice.”

Posted by: Lysander | Jan 16 2009 0:03 utc | 13

I really cannot analyze this battle in military terms. In fact, I don’t think those are the proper terms at all. This is but one short one-sided battle in a long campaign of extermination. The resistance is brave, but if the Israelis wanted they could bomb the entire strip flat as a pancake.
The outcome of this battle will have nothing to do with miltary performance. What is important is the terms of the ceasefire, the theatre of world opinion and the number of governments who are forced by their people to forswear Israel. Until that begins to happen, until the tide begins to turn, we are no better than the voyeuristic Israelis overlooking Gaza in their plastic lawn chairs with their picnic lunches.
This is really about people, not bigboy toys.

Posted by: Malooga | Jan 16 2009 0:11 utc | 14

i think if you take a close reading of what the state of israel is not saying & a close reading of what is happening on the ground with their infantry – i would come to the conclusion that israel is sufffering substantial losses – perhaps not those dreamed up at presstv(but here i find it less biased than say cnn or bbc on balance)but i imagine significant enough. tremendous brutality at night, moving back by morning & going very, very slowly
something has turned tho. i find it not surprising in the least that the famous ‘international community’ that bush & blair would use at the same pace as they would ‘tewwowism’ – do not like that international community to call emergency meetings of the general assembly, nor the demonstrations that are growing throughout the world as they did against the illegal & immoral war in iraq. the difference being is that people are making connections between what is happening to gaza to their own continually crumbling conditions
the foundation myths of israel will never again be able to be used as an excuse against the horror they call their foreign policy
at the u n the syrian representative was correct to underline again & again the racist imperatives not only of this war but also of occupation in a way that is rarely mentioned

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 16 2009 0:24 utc | 15

I have a non-frivolous suggestion. Having read Fisk’s piece in the Independent (linked in comments to the last post), it is clear that the anti-semitic label still carries weight for some journalists and may, in fact, cause them to hesitate before writing opinion pieces.
In the past, anti-semitism was real, and it was nasty. Now, however, Jews in America have little to fear : indeed, compared to Muslims, quite the opposite.
Perhaps because of this, the ADL in particular have extended the definition of anti-semitic, not to include Palestinian people as might have been hoped and justified, but to include any criticism of Israel. In other words, it has entirely lost its original meaning, yet this slur has retained its potency.
So this change in definition must be challenged, and the charge of anti-semitism must be turned on its head.
My suggestion is the printing and wearing of millions of t-shirts all bearing on one side the message :
‘PROUD TO BE ANTI_SEMITIC’
and on the other :
‘REMEMBER GAZA’
‘REMEMBER JANIN’
‘REMEMBER DEIR YASSIN’
Any t-shirt makers out there?

Posted by: Fred | Jan 16 2009 0:26 utc | 16

Yea, the brand has taken a major, if not fatal, hit.

Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Jan 16 2009 0:54 utc | 17

The logic of violence has produced the desired result for both sides. Both sides win. Hamas revels in the death and destruction. Not a small portion of Israelis do as well. Our right is orgasmic over it.
It’s 40 or 60 years to late for the Palestinians to adopt non violence as it’s main weapon. The only one which would have worked.

Posted by: rapier | Jan 16 2009 1:23 utc | 18

remembereringgiap – Thanks for the analysis. I’m in the dark on where to find the truth behind the media screen.
ThePaper – you asked the key question, one that I haven’t heard discussed nearly enough. Mubarak’s Egypt is the cornerstone of both the US’s and Israel’s projects in the Middle East. If it falls, neither is really tenable there. One thing this Gaza war has proven to me is Israel’s inability to fight a two-front war. At least half of the Israel front-line brigades (Golani, Givati, Kfir, Para, 401) are bogged down in Gaza, plus reserves. Given Hamas’s (to me) limited performance, that shows Israel could not handle two threats at all. A hostile Egypt would destroy Israel, either directly or simply by giving Hamas support and depth.
Mubarak’s faced a lot of protests over his vile role, but I haven’t seen anything yet that convinces me his regime is shaky. His son will reign in interesting times, but so far he appears secure.

Posted by: Bill | Jan 16 2009 1:48 utc | 19

Lysander – Thanks for the support. You explained the ideas I’ve been trying to get at, but much more concisely and eloquently.

Posted by: Bill | Jan 16 2009 1:48 utc | 20

America has been buying off Mubarak and his military caste for decades. What is it now, four, five billion/yr? Another hidden subsidy to Israel, since without that incentive, Egypt would be relatively worthless to the US.
Think of it as your typical middle east bazaar, the American taxpayer cretin shelling out major bucks for Palestinian dead and starving.

Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Jan 16 2009 2:00 utc | 21

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Commentary No. 249, Jan. 15, 2009
“Chronicle of a Suicide Foretold: The Case of Israel”

The state of Israel proclaimed its independence at midnight on May 15, 1948. The United Nations had voted to establish two states in what had been Palestine under British rule. The city of Jerusalem was supposed to be an international zone under U.N. jurisdiction. The U.N. resolution had wide support, and specifically that of the United States and the Soviet Union. The Arab states all voted against it.
In the sixty years of its existence, the state of Israel has depended for its survival and expansion on an overall strategy that combined three elements: macho militarism, geopolitical alliances, and public relations. The macho militarism (what current Prime Minister Ehud Olmert calls the “iron fist”) was made possible by the nationalist fervor of Jewish Israelis, and eventually (although not initially) by the very strong support of Jewish communities elsewhere in the world.
Geopolitically, Israel first forged an alliance with the Soviet Union (which was brief but crucial), then with France (which lasted a longer time and allowed Israel to become a nuclear power), and finally (and most importantly) with the United States. These allies, who were also patrons, offered most importantly military support through the provision of weapons. But they also offered diplomatic/political support, and in the case of the United States considerable economic support.
The public relations was aimed at obtaining sympathetic support from a wide swath of world public opinion, based in the early years on a portrait of Israel as a pioneering David against a retrograde Goliath, and in the last forty years on guilt and compassion over the massive Nazi extermination of European Jewry during the Second World War.
All these elements of Israeli strategy worked well from 1948 to the 1980s. Indeed, they were increasingly more effective. But somewhere in the 1980s, the use of each of the three tactics began to be counterproductive. Israel has now entered into a phase of the precipitate decline of its strategy. It may be too late for Israel to pursue any alternative strategy, in which case it will have committed geopolitical suicide. Let us trace how the three elements in the strategy interacted, first during the successful upward swing, then during the slow decline of Israel’s power.
For the first twenty-five years of its existence, Israel engaged in four wars with Arab states. The first was the 1948-1949 war to establish the Jewish state. The Israeli declaration of an independent state was not matched by a Palestinian declaration to establish a state. Rather, a number of Arab governments declared war on Israel. Israel was initially in military difficulty. However, the Israeli military were far better trained than those of the Arab countries, with the exception of Transjordan. And, crucially, they obtained arms from Czechoslovakia, acting as the agent of the Soviet Union.
By the time of the truce in 1949, the discipline of the Israeli forces combined with the Czech arms enabled the Israelis to win considerable territory not included in the partition proposals of the United Nations, including west Jerusalem. The other areas were incorporated by the surrounding Arab states. A large number of Palestinian Arabs left or were forced to leave areas under the control of the Israelis and became refugees in neighboring Arab countries, where their descendants still largely live today. The land they had owned was taken by Jewish Israelis.
The Soviet Union soon dropped Israel. This was probably primarily because its leaders quickly became afraid of the impact of the creation of the state on the attitudes of Soviet Jewry, who seemed overly enthusiastic and hence potentially subversive from Stalin’s point of view. Israel in turn dropped any sympathy for the socialist camp in the Cold War, and made clear its fervent desire to be considered a full-fledged member of the Western world, politically and culturally.
France at this time was faced with national liberation movements in its three North African colonies, and saw in Israel a useful ally. This was especially true after the Algerians launched their war of independence in 1954. France began to help Israel arm itself. In particular, France, which was developing its own nuclear weapons (against U.S. wishes), helped Israel do the same. In 1956, Israel joined France and Great Britain in a war against Egypt. Unfortunately for Israel, this war was launched against U.S. opposition, and the United States forced all three powers to end it.
After Algeria became independent in 1962, France lost interest in the Israeli connection, which now interfered with its attempts to renew closer relations with the three now independent North African states. It was at this point that the United States and Israel turned to each other to forge close links. In 1967, war broke out again between Egypt and Israel, and other Arab states joined Egypt. In this so-called Six Day War, the United States for the first time gave military weapons to Israel.
The 1967 Israeli victory changed the basic situation in many respects. Israel had won the war handily, occupying all those parts of the British mandate of Palestine that it had occupied before, plus Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula and Syria’s Golan Heights. Juridically, there was now a state of Israel plus Israel’s occupied territories. Israel began a policy of establishing
Jewish settlements in the occupied territories.
The Israeli victory transformed the attitude of world Jewry, which now overcame whatever reservations it had had about the creation of the state of Israel. They took great pride in its accomplishments and began to undertake major political campaigns in the United States and western Europe to secure political support for Israel. The image of a pioneering Israel with emphasis on the virtues of the kibbutz was abandoned in favor of an emphasis on the Holocaust as the basic justification for world support of Israel.
In 1973, the Arab states sought to redress the military situation in the so-called Yom Kippur war. This time again, Israel won the war, with U.S. arms support. The 1973 war marked the end of the central role of the Arab states. Israel could continue to try to get recognition from Arab states, and it did succeed eventually with both Egypt and Jordan, but it was now too late for this to be a way to secure Israel’s existence.
As of this point, there emerged a serious Palestinian Arab political movement, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), which was now the key opponent of Israel, the one with whom Israel needed to come to terms. For a long time, Israel refused to deal with the PLO and its leader Yasser Arafat, preferring the iron fist. And at first, it was militarily successful.
The limits of the iron fist policy were made evident by the first intifada, a spontaneous uprising of Palestinian Arabs inside the occupied territories, which began in 1987 and lasted six years. The basic achievement of the intifada was twofold. It forced the Israelis and the United States to talk to the PLO, a long process that led to the so-called Oslo Accords of 1993, which provided for the creation of the Palestinian Authority in part of the occupied territories.
The Oslo Accords in the long run were geopolitically less important than the impact of the intifada on world public opinion. For the first time, the David-Goliath image began to be inverted. For the first time, there began to be serious support in the Western world for the so-called two-state solution. For the first time, there began to be serious criticism of Israel’s iron fist and its practices vis-à-vis the Arab Palestinians. Had Israel been serious about a two-state solution based on the so-called Green Line – the line of division at the end of the 1948-1949 war – it probably would have achieved a settlement.
Israel however was always one step behind. When it could have negotiated with Nasser, it wouldn’t. When it could have negotiated with Arafat, it wouldn’t. When Arafat died and was succeeded by the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas, the more militant Hamas won the Palestinian parliamentary elections in 2006. Israel refused to talk to Hamas.
Now, Israel has invaded Gaza, seeking to destroy Hamas. If it succeeds, what organization will come next? If, as is more probable, it fails to destroy Hamas, is a two-state solution now possible? Both Palestinian and world public opinion is moving towards the one-state solution. And this is of course the end of the Zionist project.
The three-element strategy of Israel is decomposing. The iron fist no longer succeeds, much as it didn’t for George Bush in Iraq. Will the United States link remain firm? I doubt it. And will world public opinion continue to look sympathetically on Israel? It seems not. Can Israel now switch to an alternative strategy, of negotiating with the militant representatives of the Arab Palestinians, as an integral constituent of the Middle East, and not as an outpost of Europe? It seems quite late for that, quite possibly too late. Hence, the chronicle of a suicide foretold.
by Immanuel Wallerstein
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Posted by: Malooga | Jan 16 2009 2:07 utc | 22

bill
i’m not so sure. corrupt states always have to depend on two factors – their armies & their functionaries. & within egypt i would think amongst both there are deep deep divisions. there is also fear. the west does not have a monopoly on that. essentially though i think it could crack very profoundly & very quickly. history’s mechanisms seem to be going very very rapidly in our times
i genuinely think that the situation generally is so out of control – that all it takes is a shift here or there & everything falls to kingdom come

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 16 2009 2:13 utc | 23

Israel’s Free Ride Ends January 14, 2009 by The Guardian/UK

Slowly, though, something is changing. As Israel pulverises Gaza, questions and doubts about Israeli policy are becoming more prominent in the American media. The failure of the war in Iraq and the attendant discrediting of neoconservatism has opened up new space in the American conversation. With the American right dejected and weakened, there’s less pressure on the press to display the kind of boorish one-sidedness that self-congratulatory conservatives like to call “moral clarity”. Israel’s disproportionate retaliation in Gaza is increasingly recognised as both brutal and, in all likelihood, ultimately futile. In destroying Gaza, Israel is also destroying the American taboo that has ensured the country such unstintingly favourable media coverage.
On December 31, CNN took on the contentious question of whether Israel or Hamas broke the ceasefire, precipitating the current fighting. First, the network aired a clip of the liberal Palestinian legislator Mustafa Barghouti saying: “The world press community or media community is overwhelmed with the Israeli narrative, which is incorrect. The Israeli spokespersons have been spreading lies all over. The reality and the truth is that the side that broke this truce and this ceasefire was Israel. Two months before it ended, Israel started attacking Rafah, started attacking Hamas and never lifted the blockade on Gaza.” Ordinarily, TV journalists would follow such a clip – if they even aired it in the first place – with one of Israel making its case, and would stop at that, leaving an audience already predisposed against the Palestinians to sort out the truth. Instead, anchor Rick Sanchez did something that should be commonplace, but sadly is not: he endeavoured to find out who was right.
“And you know what we did? I’ve checked with some of the folks here at our international desk, and I went to them and asked: ‘What was he talking about, and do we have any information on that?'” said Sanchez. And he reported that his sources confirmed that Barghouti was right.

Since then, questioning and outright condemning Israeli actions have become increasingly common in the establishment press. On January 8, the op-ed page of the New York Times ran three opinion pieces critical of Israel. “When it is shelled by its neighbour, Israel has to do something,” wrote columnist Nick Kristof. “But Israel’s right to do something doesn’t mean it has the right to do anything.” Last week, a new issue of Time magazine appeared, its cover showing a star of David behind rows of barbed wire and the headline “Why Israel can’t win”. The extremely conservative Wall Street Journal opinion page ran a piece by George Bisharat with the headline “Israel is committing war crimes”. “Israel’s current assault on the Gaza Strip cannot be justified by self-defence,” it began. “Rather, it involves serious violations of international law, including war crimes. … Hamas fighters have also violated the laws of warfare, but their misdeeds do not justify Israel’s acts.

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Posted by: annie | Jan 16 2009 2:17 utc | 24

annie
i think the shoah business is going out of business. the irony being that in this moment when israel is committing the crimes copied from the nazis even to the point where their army staff is taught how the nazis cleared the ghettoes, shtetls of eastern europe as a strong operating procedure – perhaps it will force humanity to look look deeply at what happened to the armenians, what happened to the jews, what happened to the rwandans what is happening to the palestinians. perhaps man will finally have to learn the moral lessons of his genocidal character

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 16 2009 2:28 utc | 25

Or just more efficient ways of being evil…

Posted by: David | Jan 16 2009 2:37 utc | 26

Reading Wallerstein, above, one gets a sense of how brief alliances between nations are, and how quickly conditions change.

Posted by: Malooga | Jan 16 2009 2:49 utc | 27

malooga
he’s a tough old fucker, mr wallerstein

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 16 2009 3:04 utc | 28

The Israeli hysteria over a purported nuclear Iran, IMO, has a kernel of truth in it. For 60 years and counting, Arab states have been feckless and ineffectual, despite (or perhaps because of) Soviet and American superpower support. The correlation of forces was never more in Israel’s favor after the 1991 Gulf War, and it would have been the ideal time to come to a final settlement. Their rejection in 2001 marked the passing of that opportunity.
Right after the failure of Taba came a dazzling new possibility: a chance to destroy their Islamic enemies by hitching on to the War on Terror caused by 9/11. The neocons and their Israeli backers decided they could impose a final military victory over their enemies, but they failed (first Iraq, then Lebanon, now Gaza). Their overreach will be their downfall. Global politics will shift decisively against Israel, and because they advocated that force is the only way to settle the issue, they can see that in the future a terrible reckoning coming, due to a confluence of various factors:
* The coming of peak oil. Today’s $35/barrel to the contrary, the Persian Gulf states have the lion share of a steadily declining, completely invaluable resource. With America’s failure to secure Iraq’s oil, countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran will become exponentially more powerful, perhaps as soon as 5 years, maybe 10, 15, 20 years from now.
The Gulf’s rising oil power will buy all the technological and military capability necessary to counter Israel, up to and including nukes. Or maybe just nukes – that would be enough. There is zero probability that Israel can prevent Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt from developing their own nuclear capabilities in the future.
* The decline of America, and the rise of China. For various reasons Israel is popular with America’s people and leadership, but that’s sui generis. Anyone think Israel will have a ‘special relationship’ with China? Not likely. With their actions in Gaza, Israel has taken a giant step towards alienating the entire EU. Their only Muslim ‘ally’, Turkey, will soon abandon them. India and China won’t help. Japan? LOL. And with America reeling economically and likely forced to retrench internationally, Israel becomes dangerously exposed. Frankly, the Israelis should be begging to implement the 2002 Saudi initiative, but now it’s probably too late. Demands for a ‘single state’ where Palestinians and Israeli Arabs will eventually be a majority, or continued occupation, will eventually create an international explosion.
It won’t happen tomorrow, or 5 years from now, or even 20 years. But before oil runs out (let’s say 50-100 years from now), unyielding Palestinian, Arab, and Islamic resistance, combined with increasing international support, will eventually bring down the Zionist state.

Posted by: JoeJoe | Jan 16 2009 4:38 utc | 29

I think we spent more energy on analyzing Israel’s motives than what Hamas is looking for. Bill in his post #4 and #9 has really looked at Hamas’s game plan in depth. I will try to build the case from Bill’s above referred posts.
Qassams really don’t do anything because there is nothing to back them up militarily but Qassams provide a major negotiation point for Hamas. Israel has built a vicious case against Qassams to win over the public opinion battle within Israel but that also hamstrings the Israel leadership. Failure to get a deal that stops the Qassam firing would not be a victory for the Israeli government. The election politics in this war is an undeniable fact. So Qassam is a big bargaining chip that can be dangled before Israel to get a better deal.
I don’t know how qualified I am to discuss this and I hope others would help me out here.
Hamas in its political outlook maybe an anti West organization as it wants to promote Islamic values and the Islamic way of life which differs enormously with the Western values. However, throughout its history, Hamas has never shown to have strong Anti-American sentiments or has NOT shown any substantial interest in pursuing rhetorical battles against the US. We also have some evidence that Hamas was helped by Israel in the past. This basically means that there is some room to maneuver for Hamas, Israel, and the US in improving relations.
In Egypt as we all know the main opposition is not some nationalist movement but a religious somewhat fundamentalists’ movement that too has had some relations with the US in the past. So the possibilities are that the Ikhwan itself would not take the struggle to a level where the Mubarrak regime is seriously challenged.
So we reach a situation where all main parties are either close to the US or have the capacity to cut a deal in the area that pleases the US. Now assume that the new Obama admin wants to deal with the moderate Israelis instead of Natayan Yahoo at the top. Now we mesh this with the major push by the moderate parties in Israel to win elections. We come to the conclusion that perhaps the Obama admin was complicit in allowing the Israel to attack Gaza to ensure election victory for the moderates.
What is in there for Hamas which is taking the heaviest losses? Perhaps a deal with Israel and Egypt that allows them to have open borders, lifting of blockade, humanitarian aid and, perhaps funds to rebuild Gaza.
I know I am a little too pragmatic here but looking at the history in the area, most of the diplomatic successes in the area have followed some bitter battles in different parts of the Middle East. Recapture of Sinai to Oslo agreements and other small agreements or concessions have come after some blood was shed.
The Hizbullah established itself in Lebanon after the 2006 war and now there isn’t any likelihood that its powerbase in Lebanon would be challenged by any group in the area including Israel.
So what if the final solution is three states instead of the two or two state with one in Gaza only!
I am open to all criticism.

Posted by: Hoss | Jan 16 2009 7:22 utc | 30

… didn’t ‘they say “NEVER AGAIN”?

Posted by: b | Jan 16 2009 8:18 utc | 31

I think b has is finger on the best explanation. Especially regarding the rockets. The Israeli security walls have unwittingly led to the use of these rockets as a very attractive lure for Hamas to exploit, in sucking the Israeli’s into concessions. The Israeli population, evident in their rabid support of this operation, and after their failure in Lebanon in 2006 must be feeling very paranoid about their long term viability. This is underlined by the ability of Hamas to overcome all their efforts, at least symbolically (because of the evident ineffectiveness of the rockets tactically) by continuing to fire the rockets. In the current political moment in Israel, their leaders have unwittingly seized upon the paranoia growing in their population as a means to gain favor at the ballot box and have chosen to one up each other in retaliation toward Hamas which has snowballed into the rabid genocidal madness we now see in Gaza. Hamas, has no other way of bringing Israeli behavior into the high court of world opinion except to provoke into stark relief what is normally the grinding business as usual in the territories. In their ability to continue with the rocket fire they have suckered Israel into amplifying their regular behavior into a violent shriek that the rest of the world can not hardly ignore. And has opened up the ugly pandora’s box of questionable association, complicity, graft, manipulation, and guilt upon the other countries and their relationship with Israel that otherwise would be kept under the carpet and glossed over as a matter of routine. Now that Israel has taken the bait and resorted to massive war crimes and genocide, the taint of responsibility and accessory has now crept into all the other governments associated with them, and are beginning to produce not only an accurate portrayal of how/who broke the ceasefire, but what perhaps is necessary to move forward toward an equatable settlement.If as Clausewitz said “war is politics by other means” Hamas has moved the ball much in their favor, and Israel is on to another humiliating defeat. Again by their own hand.

Posted by: anna missed | Jan 16 2009 8:52 utc | 32

I’m reluctant to assign any type of score to this horror intimating that one side is winning and the other losing for the simple but compelling reason that for me, standing on the outside looking in on that massacre is cruel, vicarious and unlikely to benefit from yet another under-informed pronouncement.
Which isn’t to say that it is wrong to have an opinion on the morality of this action or the state of israel. Mine is pretty well known. I have no doubt that ultimately the people of Palestine will push the jewish state of israel back up the asses of the europeans who tried to shit europe’s problems out onto Palestinian land.
But IMO keeping score on this particularly foul piece of israeli desperation isn’t an acceptable, much less a worthwhile way to fill in one’s day.
But I do have to say that I’m a bit taken aback by the continuing despair in here, because it seems to me to be lacking in context.
israel hasn’t been on a roll with Gaza by any means. The object of Gaza in the Sharon separation give back Gaza plan, was to be a place under the quisling control of the corrupt elements of Fatah particularly Abu Mazen’s crooked faction.
As Palestinians were driven off their west bank land Abu Mazen was meant to be diverting them into Gaza where he would cop a royalty for ‘keeping them’ – to be doled out by israel from euUSuk ‘donations’.
Then when the west bank had been ethnically cleansed the wall to Egypt would be broken down and the Palestinians would discover they had gone from the bottom of Israel’s heap to the bottom of egypt’s heap.
The Palestinian people through Hamas have continued to foil that plot. Firstly by kicking the corrupt fatah out on their ugly asses,, then by driving Fatah out of Gaza when fatah stupidly did as israel and amerika told them to and tried to stage a coup against the democratically elected government.
I don’t see that or the state of a Gaza invasion nearly 12 months in the planning as evidence of israel being on course with their plan to own all of the West Bank at all.
This invasion has been disastrous for fatah’s credibility with Palestinians outside the Gaza as well as inside.
In many ways the israeli assassination of Yassir Arafat has turned into a nightmare for israel because, as much as they hated Arafat, they could do business with him, and he could retain the support of Palestinians. Now israel has Abu Mazen a bloke who does as he is told but who has no real sway with the people he is alleged to govern.
Or they can talk to Hamas who do have the support of Palestinians, but not only is israel has boxed itself in and it can’t do business with Hamas, when it finally does talk to Hamas as it will be made to do, israel has no ‘in’, no list of ‘players’ in Hamas up for a bribe, or down for a bit of blacklmail/extortion.
That will be problematic for israel as if Obama does stick to his relatively recent (ie restated since the Gaza war crime began) plan of talking with Hamas.
Which is why Hamas is determined to keep the rockets firing and why Israel needs to stop them.
Obama would like to broker a deal with Hamas whereby some sanctions are lifted even if only through Egypt, in return for Hamas agreeing to stop the rockets.
Without the rockets Hamas have nothing to trade off with Obama for. That is why they are continuing to fire them.
I don’t know whose winning or losing in Gaza. Lots of Palestinian human beings are being murdered by terrorists and since as we all know martyrdom is for the other fellow not oneself, those Palestinians have lost, and lost big.
On the other hand while so many people see this as a last desperate dance for Palestine, in may ways the dance is more desperate for the israel empire, this could be their last waltz.
After this blood soaked mess, if Obama can claim he stopped it by getting Hamas to stop with the rockets, the israeli’s will be walking very bow-legged with a huge Qassam poking outta it’s turdhole. Especially in light of the rather more jaded view of israel that the ameri
The new PM of apartheid israel will have to be very circumspect about breaking a treaty/ceasefire that amerika’s new prez put together.
Those with a memory will remember how much effort puy in and blood israel split trying to prevent anyone from talking with Mr Arafat and the PLO (who also had been declared terrorist organisation) israel came so close to losing it’s empire that time. Only an assassin’s bullet prevented the whole shebang from going ass up.
Sure times have changed and Obama isn’t to be trusted, but that lack of trust goes all ways.
Obama may be in hock to AIPAC but he’s also a populist pol who needs a few wins to keep the peeps onside.
If Hamas can keep those rockets firing and all the horror of maimed kiddies continues to be exclusively down to israel, Hamas have a powerful bargaining chip to use with the new amerikan administration.
amerikans were sold on the idea of Obama resoring amerika’s standing in the world. Judging by what Obama has said about the Gitmo stuff and the mess in Afghanistan and Pakistan especially Obama’s ramping up of that, Obama isn’t gonna get the mob of big ticks from ‘amerika’s friends’ on his report card, that voters imagined.
But brokering a ceasefire after this horror would be a big win foreign policy wise and fucking hard for israel to white ant, especially considering how divisive the horror has been amongst jews.
In many ways israel shot itself in the foot with the Olmert/Bush-Rice “whose the boss” stoush. Being seen to stand up to israel, unlike those useless rethugs, can be sold to amerikans.
The usual israeli claim that they are being bullied and stood over won’t only be a tough sell, Obama would prolly be able to turn any such claim to his favour.
Gazaains are still gonna be in the shit no matter what. They have lost a significant proportion of housing and infrastructure, too many casualties as well, but those who want to see this as another step in Israel’s inevitable ethnic cleansing of the Jordan Valley haven’t given sufficient consideration to the fact israel has failed to successfully implement any of their many multifarious strategies.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 16 2009 9:21 utc | 33

rgiap: “people are making connections between what is happening to gaza to their own continually crumbling conditions
Yes, I think the future is being cast in stone.

Posted by: Rick | Jan 16 2009 9:33 utc | 34

The Gaza gas fields are under the aegis of British Gas (and CCC) and Israel. The revenue was supposed to make Gaza ‘rich’. Hamas was frozen out of ‘potential revenues’ – all was to go to the Palestinian Authority, Abbas. (See article from 07.) Subsequently, the Israelis tried to by-pass the Palestinians completely (see link from Global Res.)…and some in the Gvmt. refused to buy gas from Palestine under any conditions whatsoever. (Funding terror, etc.) Hamas said that re-negotiation was necessary. All the projected deals bogged down and then fell through and BG withdrew. Then, in June 08, negotiations kicked off again and the invasion of Gaza was secretly planned.
Following on, it would seem that Gaza as a ‘stand alone’ entity must end. Some new arrangement will be worked out. Exactly what remains to be seen but Isr. will come out with its snarl of maritime control intact or reinforced?
Possibly, this was the reason for splitting the Palestinians into two, leaving tiny Gaza completely vulnerable, blockaded, and wearing the Islamic Terrorist hat.
July 07
Chossudovsky, Global Res.

Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 16 2009 11:06 utc | 35

Final victory will not go to the one handing out the greatest punishment but to him who can absorb the most.
The holocaust Jews refer to is when 60 Million people , of which 6 million were Jews , were killed. They have consigned the other 54 million people to history. This was before the Iraq war, the Vietnam war, the Korean war. In fact it was in the first half of the last century.
The perpetrators were hanged. The same should happen to to-days perpetrators. They should be arrested anywhere they go in the world. Like the Serb leaders.
The brand name holocaust has been handed to the people of Gaza
The holocaust to-day is Gaza where war crimes with illegal weapons have murdered and maimed over 3000 people. After the cease fire Israel was the first to break it as they did in most other cases. Gaza reacted with a few harmless rockets that killed no-one. We would do the same. It is called pride.
Moshe Yaalon Israelli Chief of Staff in 2002 said “The palestinians must be forced to understand in the deepest recesses of their consciousness that they are a defeated People”
Boycott and picket all stores who sell israeli goods and all goods and services of all child murder supporters.

Posted by: boindub | Jan 16 2009 13:10 utc | 36

Erdogan is saying that Israel should be expelled from the UN. That could be very significative if the current turkish government isn’t just playing their bases and actually breaks the close alliance of their country with the murderous colony (and survives to their pro western army leadership).
Hamas is said to have accepted turkish troops in the frontier with Egypt. Those declarations from Erdogan may make that unpalatable to the colony leadership. But they can keep dreaming about more western troops to protect their asses and commit their crimes like in Lebanon.

Posted by: ThePaper | Jan 16 2009 14:33 utc | 37

The weakest review of hamas I have ever read online.
Facts taken out of author butt…
Reminds me the reports from Iraq by Hussain’s Informational minister 🙂
Check out guys and have some fun http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

Posted by: James | Jan 16 2009 19:37 utc | 38

@james – facts? any fact?

Posted by: b | Jan 16 2009 20:03 utc | 39

@james – facts? any fact?
Of course not not these passing trolls or troll never support their contentions with fact. In the interests of brevity since MoA threads are long and multi-paged nowadays, I reckon that these entirely opinion based assertions with no attempt to assemble any fact to support them, since that would take both intellect and time. Trollers don’t have the one and they are using the other to shit on the next blog, so their posts should go the way of the rest of the spam that infects threads here from time to time.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 16 2009 21:39 utc | 40

Debs, isn’t one person’s opinion as valid as another’s? We all have opinions. I don’t see dismissal based on sheer opinion as being very strong.
E-forum triumphalism has its own peculiar flavor. What I see most often is a demand that when Mr X says Opinion A, then Ms Y says “you’re wrong because it’s just an opinion, where are your facts?”
This goes nowhere fast. All it does is set up tribalistic conflict of Ms Y vs Mr X. It does nothing to resolve the value of Opinion A, and in fact, it reeks of fear-based silencing.

Posted by: micah pyre | Jan 16 2009 22:37 utc | 41

b,
you would be clearer on this than me but it would seem to me if they cannot enter into the hearts of cities & towns/villages in gaza – that tell us they are either being fought ferociouslly or they have made a decision not suffer those kind of losses – but it appears to me from the intense bombing in the last three days especially by the sea – that in fact they desired to enter those spaces but can’t
i’m dpeaking as much about political costs as well as military tho i agree with bill that given the totality of involvement by the idf it does not bode well for them
what is very clear however – is that the loss of human life will turn out to be two or three times the number we have been given

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 16 2009 23:29 utc | 42