Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 22, 2009
From Policy Intention To Legal Justification

The Nazis took great care to justify their measures by law and other legal means.

In April 1933 a law for "reorganization of the civil service” cleansed the civil services from socialists and communists as well as Jews. In late 1933 a law on “criminals by habit” introduced a legal framework for concentration camps. The "Blood Protection Law" of 1935 legalized race discrimination against Jews and gypsies. Later laws and legal decrees legalized the outright extermination of people based on race, belief, sexual preference and other categories
(chronological index).

In all of these cases first the policy was thought up, then legal opinions were established to justify the policies. Laws were created to have a legal basis for the policy implementation.
These where needed because some people would not follow the policies without better justifications and legal protection.

Defendants at the Nuremberg court said they acted within those laws or followed legal orders. The judges did not swallow those justifications as the laws and orders clearly contradicted basic humanitarian ethics.

The Bush administration acted in similar ways. A policy was thought up and then a bogus legal opinion was written to justify even a obviously illegal policy. When someone made a stink, Congress was pressed to implement a law that would legalize the deeds. Thus when the policy intention was to torture, Yoo wrote a memo justifying torture and Congress later mangled that into a law that gave the CIA legal backing to continue to torture. The pattern was also followed with FISA. The intention was to listen to any communication. Then legal justifications were written to allow for that. When some folks blew a whistle, and the policy became public knowledge and outrage followed, Congress was pressed to establish the illegal stuff as legal through a law and to even give the telcos retroactive immunity. When no one in the U.S. made a stink, like over renditions, the step of introducing a justifying law was not deemed necessary.

The Israeli Defense Forces seem to follow the same pattern. Establish an intention and a policy, than have someone come up with a legal justification:

The idea to bombard the closing ceremony of the Gaza police course was internally criticized in the Israel Defense Forces months before the attack. A military source involved in the planning of the attack, in which dozens of Hamas policemen were killed, says that while military intelligence officers were sure the operation should be carried out and pressed for its approval, the IDF's international law division and the military advocate general were undecided.

After months of the operational elements pushing for the attack's approval, the international law division gave the go-ahead.

Commentary to the Geneva Convention generally considers policemen to be "protected persons" under the convention. To target them was illegal. Continues Haaretz:

In spite of doubts, and also under pressure, the division also legitimized the attack on Hamas government buildings and the relaxing of the rules of engagement, resulting in numerous Palestinian casualties.

"Hamas government buildings" are first of all government buildings, for example hospital and schools. As far as they are needed for the public life and are not used as military positions they must also be protected.

In the division it is also believed that the killing of civilians in a house whose residents the IDF has warned might be considered legally justified, although the IDF does not actually target civilians in this way.

Oh really? The IDF even told civilians to go into a house only to then bomb the house.

Many legal experts, including former international law division head Daniel Reisner, do not accept this position. "I don't think a person on a rooftop can be incriminated just because he is standing there," he said.

But again the legal opinion was not formed as a neutral legal opinion based on some accepted normative ethics or basic law, but was drawn up to justify an intended policy, in this case obviously indiscriminate killing of civilians, despite its obvious illegality.

"The army knows what it wants, and pressure was certainly brought to bear when legal advisers thought that something was unacceptable or problematic," an operational military source said.

According to a senior official in the international law division, "Our goal is not to tie down the army, but to give it the tools to win in a way that is legal."

Does anyone believe the Nuremberg judges would have accepted such nonsense as legal?

Comments

“from policy intention ….”
I think the official lingo is: ex post facto legislation.
nice post.

Posted by: slothrop | Jan 22 2009 16:45 utc | 1

very good post b thx

Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 22 2009 16:48 utc | 2

Thx sloth, corrected

Posted by: b | Jan 22 2009 16:51 utc | 3

very important post, thanks.
I have a book with photocopies of the actual legislative texts in their original appearance from the Third Reich. Would be worth to put them online for educational purposes. I didn’t check if they are though, but it’s pretty horrifying to read the actual laws they put into effect to make the evil legal.

Posted by: mimi | Jan 22 2009 16:58 utc | 4

Hitler had long been seen as a genius. But in fact that is a mytrh. He was a mediocre man who let others around him, smarter than him, impliment his insane wishes. All his entourage did was present him with applause and deception. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS LIKE WITH OUR CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT UN-DECIDER PRESIDENT, GW BUSH. Mediocrities with egos and a desperate desire to finally be seen as “mensch” in their final geriatric state (Rumsfeld, Cheney, neocons) presented dumb Bush with faits acomplis. All he did was plot– with the help of his father– to make those who made decisions in his name into scapegoats, should things go bad, while he only worked intently to pay back the contributors to his campaigns by turning America over to these robber barons. One can, therefore, not avoid the conclusion that all the NSA “listening” was not aimed to catch non-existent alQaeda terrorists plotting in the US, but to catch political opponents who would etch firmly and indelibly in the pages of America’s history books what “Bush-it” were the last eight years. Remember, mediocrities that unite in a conspiracy always assume that victory comes, not just by eating the one sitting on your face, but also by thinking “outside the [LAW] box” to compensate for personal mediocrity. Our civil rights– as those of Germans under Hilter– were sacrificed for the sake of keeping incompetence at the top. What is more scary is how an opportunist press and religious leaders palyed along for small advantages. But the bureaucracy’s leakers saved us. It is now up to us to put together the pieces and make them known.

Posted by: DE Teodoru | Jan 22 2009 17:20 utc | 5

B, thanks for putting it so nicely together
laws to criminalize citizen
this was for me the scariest part of the german reich, the co-operation of those that are supposedly studying,teaching,defending and upholding the law, and the fear of the others standing by and watching it happen not daring to say a word, lest it be them breaking the ‘law’.

Posted by: sabine | Jan 22 2009 17:32 utc | 6

great post b.
reminds me of b reals 44 link
After consulting with lawyers, one basic tenet has been agreed upon.
“Let machines target other machines. Let men target men,” he said. In other words, autonomous armed robots would target the “bow and arrow, not the archer,” he said.

In this “only target machines” scenario, an armed robot would aim at an enemy’s rifle, not his between the eyes.

“People may still die, but it will be a secondary consequence,” Canning said.

Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2009 17:54 utc | 7

obama signs orders to close gitmo in a year
link

Posted by: sabine | Jan 22 2009 18:14 utc | 8

Laws, and the language they’re disguised in, are simply ways for people to try and justify the unjustifiable.
Stealing, killing, repression are all done openly because people in government have created phrases and words to hide their wrongs. There has been such a bastardization of the legal system, it serves nobody but big money and it’s minions; The Lawyers.
Who ever controls language and the mass marketing of ideas will be able to bend the public in any direction it wishes.
The shear number of laws on the books are an ever-splitting of hairs until nothing is left, which is what rules become – nothing. And the number is so overwhelming that at any given moment, on any given day we’re breaking some kind of law, probably just by breathing, so it becomes easier to bend the language of laws to support any position you want.
Courts become grand theater where the defendant and the state try and assemble the largest assortment of “important” people in support of their position. Those with enough power standing on their side is what influences the judge to favor one argument over another.
Laws only influence those that follow them or those who step on power’s toes and get “caught.” The rest of us go through life bitterly resigned to keeping our head down and out of sight.

Posted by: David | Jan 22 2009 18:16 utc | 9

@mimi @4 – the German text of all the laws and decrees of that time are online at Dokumentarchiv.de. You will not that up the start of the war in 1939 there were lots of laws made and implemented. After the war started the legal justifying stuff took the form of orders by the Führer, comparable (not totaly) to executive orders in the U.S.

Posted by: b | Jan 22 2009 19:32 utc | 10

sabine, your link didn’t work but as i recall this was the first thing he did, or that i heard about. and it is ‘within a year.’ w/the explanation it would take some planning to figure out what to do w/many of the prisoners.
i take that back! i think the first order was to immediately suspend the military tribunals taking place, their legality being questioned.
on the timeline at the link notice jan 19th. for some reason the bush white house wanted to get these particularly highly contentious tribunals kick started prior to his departure.

Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2009 19:37 utc | 11

should have checked link (it leads to page not found) anyways story via ap on yahoo news
snippet:

The centerpiece order would close the much-maligned Guantanamo facility within a year, a complicated process with many unanswered questions that was nonetheless a key campaign promise of Obama’s. The administration already has suspended trials for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo for 120 days pending a review of the military tribunals.
In the other actions, Obama:
_Created a task force to recommend policies on handling terror suspects who are detained in the future. Specifically, the group would look at where those detainees should be housed since Guantanamo is closing.
_Required all U.S. personnel to follow the U.S. Army Field Manual while interrogating detainees. The manual explicitly prohibits threats, coercion, physical abuse and waterboarding, a technique that creates the sensation of drowning and has been termed a form of torture by critics. However, a Capitol Hill aide says that the administration also is planning a study of more aggressive interrogation methods that could be added to the Army manual — which would create a significant loophole to Obama’s action Thursday.
“We believe that the Army Field Manual reflects the best judgment of our military, that we can abide by a rule that says we don’t torture, but that we can still effectively obtain the intelligence that we need,” Obama said. He said his action reflects an understanding that “we are willing to observe core standards of conduct, not just when it’s easy, but also when it’s hard.”

Posted by: sabine | Jan 22 2009 19:38 utc | 12


‘Criminals belong in jail’

“Israel… cannot do as it pleases simply because the Judge Advocate General decided it wouldn’t be looking into the deaths of civilians.”
Attorney Michael Sefarad, who specialized in international law, said that we must remember that the entire mechanism of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague was put in place after World War II and the Holocaust, at the Jewish people’s demand.
“The notion that some acts cannot be committed even in a time of war and that war criminals cannot find refuge anywhere is of the utmost importance, and this mechanism can be used against Israel as well.”

Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2009 19:41 utc | 13

more from badger’s post Israel at work on war-crimes damage-control

Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2009 19:45 utc | 14

On the morrow of the return of the last Israeli soldier from Gaza, we can determine with certainty that they had all gone out there in vain. This war ended in utter failure for Israel.
This goes beyond the profound moral failure, which is a grave matter in itself, but pertains to its inability to reach its stated goals. In other words, the grief is not complemented by failure. We have gained nothing in this war save hundreds of graves, some of them very small, thousands of maimed people, much destruction and the besmirching of Israel’s image….
So what was achieved, after all? As a war waged to satisfy considerations of internal politics, the operation has succeeded beyond all expectations. Likud Chair Benjamin Netanyahu is getting stronger in the polls. And why? Because we could not get enough of the war.
gideon levy

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 20:13 utc | 15

Laws are intended to preserve the status quo, the existing property relations. Since wars are an attempt to change the status quo, they necessarily jump ahead of laws. But once their purpose is achieved, they have to quickly get back under the umbrella of law, so that the possibility of lawlessness isn’t recognized by the general public.
Israel has had to perform this trick multiple times, as they repeatedly invalidate the status quo of their own legality.

Posted by: seneca | Jan 22 2009 23:33 utc | 16

tragically, for all their shooting & crying – their murderous & criminal acts – there has never been land for peace – israel continues to take much much more than she has ever given. fuck them

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 22 2009 23:45 utc | 17



Posted by: sabine | Jan 23 2009 1:43 utc | 18



Posted by: sabine | Jan 23 2009 1:43 utc | 19

i am unable to post any links today, so i give up, but have a read:
Palestinian kid, studying in the USA lost two brothers in Gaza courtesy of the IDF, one died immediatly, the other bled to death, while the father calls god and the world to get an ambulance to where they are. The fathers plea is aired on TV and radio, but no ambulance is allowed to pass.
Good fucking grief
Part 1:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/21/palestinian_us_college_grad_loses_2
Part 2:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/22/part_ii_palestinian_us_college_grad

Posted by: sabine | Jan 23 2009 1:47 utc | 20

military experiment Gaza?
link
from common dreams

Mona is one of the many patients among the 5,500 injured that have international and Palestinian doctors baffled by the type of weaponry used in the Israeli operation. High-profile human rights organizations like Amnesty International are accusing Israel of war crimes.
Mona’s doctors at Gaza City’s Al-Shifa hospital found no shrapnel in her leg, and it looked as though it had been “sliced right off with a knife.”
“We are not sure exactly what type of weapon can manage to do that immediately and so cleanly,” said Dr. Sobhi Skaik, consultant surgeon general at Al-Shifa hospital. “What is happening is frightening. It’s possible the Israeli army was using Gaza to experiment militarily.”

Posted by: sabine | Jan 23 2009 2:52 utc | 21

via Tom Dispatch
Obamas Gaza Opportunity

It is in America’s interest, and Israel’s, and the Palestinians’ that Obama intervene quickly in the Middle East, but that he do so on a dramatically different basis than that of his two immediate predecessors.
Peace is made between the combatants of any conflict; “peace” with only chosen “moderates” is an exercise in redundancy and pointlessness. The challenge in the region is to promote moderation and pragmatism among the political forces that speak for all sides, especially the representative radicals.
And speaking of radicals and extremists, there’s palpable denial, bordering on amnesia, when it comes to Israel’s rejectionists. Ariel Sharon explicitly rejected the Oslo peace process, declaring it null and void shortly after assuming power. Instead, he negotiated only with Washington over unilateral Israeli moves.

Posted by: sabine | Jan 23 2009 6:37 utc | 22

I do understand that closing Gitmo is a complex process and will take time.
However, from what was posted here and what I have read in the papers, that is, I haven’t spent any time really on this question, and can’t speak to legal ins and outs of which there are plenty, what Obama has said and done is not enough, and not ethical according to common principles / international law.
First, the majority, the large bulk of prisoners in Gitmo (I have read various nos. but it really is the majority) are accused of nothing at all. There are no accusations against them, no court case planned, and they basically don’t have lawyers (in the sense, a lawyer to mount a defense; they may be ‘represented’ or may be able to ‘consult’ – I don’t know the details here, in fact almost nothing on this issue has been made public in the anglo press. Other national press sometimes reports consular, Red Cross, lawyerly, etc. intervention..) so they are being held illegally and should be pardoned and let go, not to mention compensated for illegal/erroneous/unjustified imprisonment. What to ‘do’ with them the next day is problematic, but solvable.
Second, two at least have been destroyed by torture and are mentally certifiable. (From the Swiss press.) These should be transferred to psychiatric civil facilities immediately and offered representation – what their embassies decide as well as by someone mandated by the US Gvmt. If there are still minors there (I think not..) these should be returned to their families / country of origin.
It is quite possible that McCain or another Republican candidate would have done the same as Obama, not so quickly and with less noble discourse. Gitmo was set to close anyway, not only as a supreme black mark against America, but also as a neocon construction, a legal anomaly, not viable or even useful in the long run. For PR, closing Gitmo is very favorable – but it is what happens to the prisoners that counts.
Suspending the military tribunals is proper, that goes to the issue of their legality as a ‘tribunal.’ My guess is that Obama will scotch this avenue and will have the ‘real’ suspects (KSM, etc.) judged by the civil courts, as Moussaoui was. – Imho, they will not get a fair trial, but that is a whole other can of beans –
The problem is all the others. Let’s hope Obama is just giving himself some breathing space. He did uphold, explicitly, article 3 of the Geneva conventions for “any detention facility controlled by the US” and said he “would alter CIA detention and interrogation rules…” and that he will ban “black sites where the CIA (and others) have interrogated terrorist suspects.” (press.)
So, to sum up: on torture, good; on the Gitmo prisoners, the real sufferers today, not so good. He has melded the two issues, bit of obfuscation, I think.

Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 23 2009 8:34 utc | 23

I believe the Human Rights Watch confirmation that since 9/11 at least 30 prisoners have died in U.S. captivity speaks for itself. That’s even more than died on Death Row during the same period.

Posted by: Parviz | Jan 23 2009 9:12 utc | 24

Parviz@24-
Those are probably some of the lucky ones (and I don’t say that lightly). Can you imagine what it must be like to be forced to live as those prisoners do?
Especially the ones that are probably only there because their brother-in-law needed an extra $500 the day U.S. troops happened to be knocking on doors asking if he knew of any terrorist nearby…
What the average joe forgets is that once the state has laws are on the books making torture legal and a defendant’s rights, illegal, for one particular group then it isn’t too hard for the state to keep adding names to that list until pretty soon you’re there too.
The state takes power by yards and returns it by inches…

Posted by: David | Jan 23 2009 10:58 utc | 25

Well at Gitmo the suicidal ones / hunger strikers were/are kept alive through immobilisation and force feeding by tubes. Violation of medical ethics.
Doctors, psychologists, military, prison personnel, Gvmt, CIA, law, Supreme court..it is an ugly and long list, all blithely ignoring, overturning or ‘re-interpreting’ some of the founding texts that supposedly make us ‘civilized.’ (Meaning, give some grounding and a bit of clout to those who object..) I quit every professional association I belonged to, as I considered that the lack of public or official protest was cause enough. Big deal..made me feel better though.
physicians for human rights
I’m very much afraid that Obama on torture is about un-tarnishing America, American’s public and self-image, and not at heart about ethics or the victims.
Exceptionalism of the US brand rests on a certain concept of nobility and superiority in areas to do with personal conduct – democracy is advanced, Americans are upright, soldiers are brave and just, and savage behavior that others indulge in (Saddam, Muslims, backward ppls, racists, etc. etc.) is not acceptable. Bush smashed that image (eg. Abu Ghraib) and it now has to be restored.
So Obama will do and the softie-lefties will clap with two hands, the International press will make hay, hail Obama as a ‘reformer’ (yikes..) while on the ground nothing much will change – Obama, afaik, has said nothing about the huge numbers of prisoners in Iraq.

Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 23 2009 15:04 utc | 26

I’m very much afraid that Obama on torture is about un-tarnishing America, American’s public and self-image, and not at heart about ethics or the victims.
i realize i’ve been harping on this document quite a bit lately, but i feel it is very relevant to the transition of power – here was a recommendation from the CSIS commission on smart power in their 2007 report

American leaders ought to eliminate the symbols that have come to represent the image of an intolerant, abusive, unjust America. The unfairness of such a characterization does not minimize its persuasive power abroad. Closing the Guantanamo Bay detention center is an obvious starting point and should lead to a broader rejection of torture and prisoner abuse. Guantanamo’s very existence undermines America’s ability to carry forth a message of principled optimism and hope. Although closing Guantanamo will be no simple matter, legal and practical constraints are surmountable if it should become a priority of American leadership, and planning for its closure should begin well before the next president takes office.

on the detainees themselves, it’s been a couple of years since i read alfred mccoy’s book on torture, but i recall that one of his points was that gitmo has also served as a lab for improving interrogation & torture tactics for the targeted cultures. he compared it to the CIA’s phoenix program in vietnam and raised the problem they had there in how to dispose of the subjects after they were done w/ them. they didn’t want those individuals to return to the population & share what they went through and give any advantage to u.s. adversaries. so most of them were eliminated.
times are different, obviously, and the ubiquity of mass media communications makes it difficult to get away w/ the solutions the phoenix program engaged.
hopefully there’s a lot of officials whose health (mental & physical) is suffering from dealing w/ this dilemma.

Posted by: b real | Jan 23 2009 15:55 utc | 27

noam chomsky on democracy now friday

AMY GOODMAN: It’s good to have you with us. Well, let’s start off by your response to President Obama’s statement [Thursday] and whether you think it represents a change.
NOAM CHOMSKY: It’s approximately the Bush position. He began by saying that Israel, like any democracy, has a right to defend itself. That’s true, but there’s a gap in the reasoning. It has a right to defend itself. It doesn’t follow that it has a right to defend itself by force.

They have a right to defend themselves, and they can easily do it. One, in a narrow sense, they could have done it by accepting the ceasefire that Hamas proposed right before the invasion—I won’t go through the details—a ceasefire that had been in place and that Israel violated and broke.
But in a broader sense—and this is a crucial omission in everything Obama said, and if you know who his advisers are, you understand why—Israel can defend itself by stopping its crimes. Gaza and the West Bank are a unit. Israel, with US backing, is carrying out constant crimes, not only in Gaza, but also in the West Bank, where it is moving systematically with US support to take over the parts of the West Bank that it wants and to leave Palestinians isolated in unviable cantons, Bantustans, as Sharon called them. Well, stop those crimes, and resistance to them will stop.

..there’s no question that all of these acts are in total violation of the foundations of international humanitarian law. Israel knows it. Their own advisers have told each other—legal advisers have explained that to them back in ’67. The World Court ruled on it. So it’s all total criminality. But they want to be able to persist without any objection. And that’s the thrust of Obama’s remarks. Not a single word about US-backed Israeli crimes, settlement development, cantonization, a takeover in the West Bank. Rather, everyone should be quiet and let the United States and Israel continue with it.

Posted by: b real | Jan 23 2009 21:45 utc | 28

look at the front page of huffington post – a virtual celebration of massacre – made boble – because obama is c-i-c

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 23 2009 21:59 utc | 29

Tangerine @26
As of last week, there are 42 Gitmo prisoners (out of 250) on a hunger strike, with 31 of them being force-fed.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Sharp_rise_in_number_of_Gitmo_detai_01122009.html

Posted by: Ensley | Jan 23 2009 23:08 utc | 30

inner city press posting from thursday

UNITED NATIONS, January 22 — Returning voiceless [well now, isn’t that convenient…] from the Gaza Strip and Israel, the UN’s Ban Ki-moon sat Wednesday afternoon in the Security Council chamber, listening as his American chief of Political Affairs Lynn Pascoe read out his call for an investigation of Israel’s bombings of UN facilities, in the first instance by Israel itself, and for humanitarian aid and reconstruction. While the shift to self-investigation became the focus of the press corps waiting impatiently at the stakeout, inside the consultations room the negotiation of a Council press statement took a surprising turn.
Libya proposed, and most members agreed to, a paragraph mirroring Ban’s muted investigation call. But the United States, represented for now by civil servant Alejandro Wolff, was having none of it. Inner City Press is told by sources in the meeting that the US would not agree to any reference to investigations. These sources marveled that, even with Obama now in power, this would be the US position.

The Secretariat’s press availability, like the Council briefing, was handled by Lynn Pascoe. Inner City Press started it off, asking who exactly it is that Ban wants to do the investigation. Pascoe reiterated the new line, “in the first instance… a report from Israel.”

But reporter after reporter zeroed in on the change. The Washington Post followed up on Inner City Press’ question, noting that both John Ging and John Holmes had called for an independent investigation.
Pascoe grew testy, reminding the Press that Ban went to get a ceasefire and got one, we’re not saying he got it alone — Ban’s spokesperson used this very same formulation — but it was gotten. Give Ban the man a break, was the implication. And one wanted to, at least for a day. But he runs the risk of morphing from Ban Ki-Mute to Ban Ki-moot.

he is what they tell him to be. obviously he spoke out of line in gaza.

Posted by: b real | Jan 24 2009 4:57 utc | 31

b, I am mystified by something – I am trying to post a link in a comment and typepad keeps showing the URL with a forward slash at the beginning and telling me it cannot be found (although I did not insert such a slash). What’s going on? I can’t even link to google here any more – is it just me?

Posted by: bea | Jan 24 2009 14:15 utc | 32

yahoo
does the same thing for me, adds http://www.typepad.com/t to the front of the link. odd….

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 24 2009 14:32 utc | 33

hah, figured it out, you have to make sure to put http:// in front of your link. otherwise typepad thinks the link is relative instead of absolute.
in other words &lt a href=”http://www.google.com”&gt google &lt/a&gt works whereas &lt a href=”www.yahoo.com”&gt yahoo &lt/a&gt does not

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 24 2009 14:44 utc | 34

b real at 27, thx for the link, that sums it up…and a Repub.would not have done different in the long run…also, I have been agreeably surprised by Chomsky..somewhat.
Gitmo as a test case…. I read the executive order, Greenwald’s comments will be of more interest for now than mine.
The point is that this an easy Human Rights/International law issue, which Obama could follow through on without too many other repercussions. (? There would be ways and means to avoid having Bush brought to the International Tribunal, say.)
The bulk of Gitmo prisoners have been subjected, in French law, to enlèvement et séquestration – kidnap and illegal holding.
links care of typepad in the next post. Ensley, that was one news item in my links, I repost it.

Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 24 2009 15:04 utc | 35

greenw. on all the Exec. orders
From ABC news, jan. 16: Secret List of US military bases to replace Gitmo.
link
Hunger strikers Gitmo – news

Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 24 2009 15:06 utc | 36

b real @ 31
This is in every sense profoundly shocking and yet the entire situation is and has been completely ignored by Huffington and Daily Kos and for all I know the rest of the Dem fawn-ins. These heartless fucks would rather count the sparkly unicorns swarming from Obama’s rectum than bother with mass-murder, but then again, who wouldn’t, eh?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 24 2009 16:14 utc | 37

39 was me.

Posted by: Tantalus | Jan 24 2009 16:25 utc | 38

@b@10, great link, thank you, I could imagine the laws would be online these days, I bought the book in the late eighties before I had my first computer. Sorry for not checking it out before posting.

Posted by: mimi | Jan 25 2009 1:16 utc | 39

@dan of steel
thank you!

Posted by: bea | Jan 25 2009 18:16 utc | 40

following up on #31
inner city press: UN Bans Propaganda, Then Refuses to Take Questions, Crackdown in Gaza’s Wake?

UNITED NATIONS, January 27 — Accused during the Gaza conflict of being ineffective, the UN’s media operation has sought to crack down on and cut off the Press. Last week UN Spokesperson Michele Montas declaimed that briefings are “not for propaganda.” This week, Deputy Spokesperson Marie Okabe read out a series of press releases and then refused to take questions even about them during the briefing, despite having made an on-camera commitment to do so.

The theory of this case is that these orders to crack down on and exclude the press come from higher up. Someone on the 38th floor — guess who? — saw the rambunctious questions about Gaza on January 21, and told Montas to crack down, the theory goes. And things have progressed, or regressed, from there. The purpose of this piece is to provide a snapshot. We will continue to follow the process.

Posted by: b real | Jan 27 2009 19:18 utc | 41