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November 13, 2008

OT 08-39

Everybody read the new New York Times? For once Tom Friedman wrote a good column: The End of the Experts.

Open thread ...

Posted by b on November 13, 2008 at 16:58 UTC | Permalink


Foley: I’m not a pedophile because the pages were almost 18.»

Today, former Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) finally broke his two-year silence after the revelations about his lurid IM conversations with congressional pages. Foley conceded that his behavior was “extraordinarily stupid,” but throughout the AP interview, he stayed on the defensive:

Says he’s not a pedophile: “The work I was doing was involving young children … You know, you hear the term ‘pedophile.’ That is prepubescent,” Foley said, noting a “huge difference” from lurid chats with teens on the brink of adulthood.

– The children didn’t say no: “There was never anywhere in those conversations where someone said, “Stop,” or “I’m not enjoying this,” or “This is inappropriate,” he said.

It was a “momentary lapse of judgment,” Foley claimed. But he “carried on the computer conversations for months, asking about masturbation, sex, and other details,” the AP notes.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 13 2008 17:18 utc | 1

About the "no hack like me, Kristol and the others should ever be allowed to write or speak publicly about such matters" is basically my opinion about the whole bunch of capitalism-worshipping cultists who plagued the planet for the last decades - including the whole bunch economic experts, bankers, investers, traders, with a handful of exceptions. Now that history has utterly and definitely proven them wrong, these people should never ever be allowed to manage anything except their own vegetables garden, and should never ever be allowed to speak about any financial, economic or social matter.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Nov 13 2008 18:39 utc | 2

Almost as funny as this NY Times link.

Posted by: DharmaBum | Nov 13 2008 18:48 utc | 3

literally, there is no end to their obscenity - bush in his 'speech' at the manhattan institute blmaes once again - the poor & the dispossessed. there is not one sliver of human decency in these monster. not one

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 13 2008 19:06 utc | 4

I lost interest from the first pharse of the artile "The sudden outbreak of peace in Iraq has made me realize..." PEACE IN IRAQ. Is this guy off his meds? He could have said the reduction in violence in Iraq, but PEACE...Are you kdding me!!!!

Posted by: | Nov 13 2008 19:35 utc | 5


Check the date, for starters.

Posted by: biklett | Nov 13 2008 19:42 utc | 6

The comments on the article are far better than the article itself. This one is precious:

"Is that starting now, or according to Friedman time scales? How many Friedman units before this becomes true?????"

Posted by: ndahi | Nov 13 2008 19:47 utc | 7


I checked the date and it is satire. I understand that. But I bet you a nickle that this jackass does believe that peace in Iraq is around the corner. This man is a liberal neocon no different than the conservative neocons. He is a member of the war party.

Posted by: ndahi | Nov 13 2008 19:49 utc | 8

it would be a glorious day indeed if thomas friedman & his ilk in the commentariat shut the fuck up but i am sure we will still hear their voices as we gurgle down the drain

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 13 2008 19:55 utc | 9

there is this one aspect to firedman, kristol et al - is their sordid sanctimony - something i think they have learnt from the prosperity preachers who look for a buck - the commentariat do it for the same reasons & the imbecilic illusions of influence

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 13 2008 19:57 utc | 10

cryptome eyeballs friedman's "green" mansion


book tip for alabama, per request for recommendations on colombia

Fidel Castro publishes book about Colombia

"In the book, Fidel develops three central ideas: one, the characterization and development of the deceased FARC chief, the evolution of the guerrilla movement and his role in the complex Colombian political framework; secondly, the incidence of the oligarchic power, its instruments of exploitation and repression and its alliance with U.S. imperialism in the genesis of and constant exercise of violence; and thirdly, the real nature of Cuba’s links with the Latin American revolutionary movements and its long and sustained contribution to the search for a just, realistic and humanitarian solution to the armed conflict that is bleeding Colombia," Cuban website Granma describes.

It is uncertain if the book will be published outside Cuba.

Posted by: b real | Nov 13 2008 19:58 utc | 11

What sick satire this is. Must be over my head.

Posted by: Rick | Nov 13 2008 20:16 utc | 12

Must be over my head.

i could read it all day. i wonder who wrote it? loved the health care link.

This man is a liberal neocon no different than the conservative neocons.He is a member of the war party.

yeah and i bet he is pissed people are writing under his name, but so what?

Posted by: annie | Nov 13 2008 21:18 utc | 13

argh, sorry

Posted by: annie | Nov 13 2008 21:19 utc | 14

Thanks for that link, b real. Friedman is nauseating, but so many "Liberals" love him. It's hard to believe he's accumulated this kind of wealth being a journalist and author. And after looking at those pictures, there's no way in hell that piece of land would have been used to develop a subdivision. Did you see the surrounding estates? Not only that, it's ugly and bereft of any character....a mausoleum to house those whose souls have long since left.

Posted by: Obamageddon | Nov 13 2008 21:20 utc | 15

A fine Bushism on the economic crisis, maintaining that the system is not to blame:

"It would a terrible mistake to allow a few months of crisis to undermine 60 years of success"

No, but eight years of gross mismanagement is enough to get the ball rolling, eh?

Posted by: ralphieboy | Nov 13 2008 21:59 utc | 16

#15 Obamageddon, separate from his own income, Friedman married into the serious real estate Buchsbaum family. Thanks for the mansions' images link. Bethesda Maryland is 303' above sea level, so maybe he won't sell soon.

Posted by: plushtown | Nov 13 2008 22:49 utc | 17

so Obama reanimated the corpse of that proud butcher of Iraqi kids Madeleine Albright eh?

and he wants $50 billion for our worthless Big 2.25 and a Car Czar to oversee their slide into irrelevance.

the winds of changeiness are indeed blowing! feel it?

Posted by: ran | Nov 14 2008 0:03 utc | 18

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Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 14 2008 1:41 utc | 19

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Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 14 2008 1:52 utc | 20

(in memory of big bill broonzy & big mama thorton)

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 14 2008 2:31 utc | 21

how's Mandela supposed to take this. One million plus deaths later, millions of lives traumatized & displaced & Tom climbs off his high horse pleading for forgiveness for having been so insanely & pathologically wrong ?

Your the man Tom Friedman, you really thought you were the shits. You could have made Mandela the old fool who did'nt know what he was talking about.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Nov 14 2008 2:33 utc | 22

so Obama reanimated the corpse of that proud butcher of Iraqi kids Madeleine Albright eh?

and he wants $50 billion for our worthless Big 2.25 and a Car Czar to oversee their slide into irrelevance.

the winds of changeiness are indeed blowing! feel it? are sooo right! Not that I ever had any great expectation but this is so low that it makes me depresed...

Posted by: vbo | Nov 14 2008 3:57 utc | 23

the cia is trying to box obama into a corner w/ the bogeyman threat - here's some bullshit from hayden, before the 'think-tank' the atlantic council of the u.s.
CIA warns of increase in 'western' terrorists

Growing numbers of westerners are travelling to the tribal areas of north-west Pakistan to receive terrorist training, the head of the CIA warned yesterday.

In a rare meeting with journalists at the Atlantic Council, a Washington think-tank, General Michael Hayden also said that al-Qaida is growing in strength in North Africa as well as in East Africa, in particular Somalia, and in Yemen.

"All the threats we have to the west have a thread that takes it back to the [Afghanistan-Pakistan] border," Hayden said. Westerners were prized by al-Qaida because they could blend in, the kind of people he said who would not attract attention in an airport queue.

Hayden described Osama bin Laden's network as a "determined and adaptive enemy" in a "war that is far from over" and warned: "If there is a major strike on [the US], it will bear the fingerprints of al-Qaida."

and how do you think this stmt would hold up to legal scrutiny - he parses his words very carefully

"In East Africa, al-Qaida is engaging Somali extremists to revitalise operations," Hayden said. "The recent bombings in Somalia may have been meant, at least in part, to strengthen bona fides with al-Qaida's senior leaders. A merger between al-Shabaab and al-Qaida could give Somali extremists much-needed funding, while al-Qaida could claim to be reestablishing its operations base in East Africa."

no parties have yet to come forward to claim responsibility for those bombings in northern somalia & some of those arrested in the immediate aftermath have already been released. i still think it has more to do w/ the skirmishes b/w somaliland and puntland, or internal political strife related to the pending elections in both regions, rather than being related to al shabaab or the insurgency to the south. jendayi frazer is the only source i've seen for claiming that they're related to al qa'idah, and she pulled that one out of her ass the same way she did in late 2006 when she told the world that AQ was running the islamic courts - complete bunk.

hayden's up to the same tricks

from an AP story today

Hayden said there has been no spike in terrorist "chatter" to suggest an attack on the United States linked to the presidential transition.

"But we don't know what we don't know," he said.

no kidding. but then you hardly know that which you believe to know, too.

Posted by: b real | Nov 14 2008 5:17 utc | 24

i could read it all day.

Read it all day? Oh my! I quit after the first few lines too. I don't read the NY Times and I never trusted media experts anyways, so this satire is not that funny to me. Sorry, for being so out of it. On the other hand, I did find funny that video b posted about political campaign workers having a lot time on their hands now.

Posted by: Rick | Nov 14 2008 5:37 utc | 25

Posted by: b real | Nov 14 2008 5:46 utc | 26

"not something that can be attributed nefariously to the geurillas"

Posted by: b real | Nov 14 2008 5:49 utc | 27



Posted by: b real | Nov 14 2008 5:50 utc | 28

Bush, Out of Office, Could Oppose Inquiries

WASHINGTON — When a Congressional committee subpoenaed Harry S. Truman in 1953, nearly a year after he left office, he made a startling claim: Even though he was no longer president, the Constitution still empowered him to block subpoenas.

“If the doctrine of separation of powers and the independence of the presidency is to have any validity at all, it must be equally applicable to a president after his term of office has expired,” Truman wrote to the committee.

Congress backed down, establishing a precedent suggesting that former presidents wield lingering powers to keep matters from their administration secret. Now, as Congressional Democrats prepare to move forward with investigations of the Bush administration, they wonder whether that claim may be invoked again.

Hahahahahahaha, it's not the laughter and and simultaneous cathartic tears that bothers me, it's the inability to stop.

"I was always astonished at the extraordinary good nature and lack of malice with which men who had been flogged spoke of their beatings and of those who had inflicted them..."~Dostoevsky (Memoirs From the House of the Dead)

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 14 2008 6:14 utc | 29

Surgar Weekly English Edition, Kandahar, Afghanistan

World readies for Obama Executive

Editorial - Peter Torbay

Speaking at Evergreen State College today, home of the patron saint of all Arabs, Rachel Corrie,
As'ad Abu Khalil, Cal State professor and blog editor for
The Angry Arab News Service
reiterated his belief that Barack Obama will be a Red Army-Blue Army
clone of the same oligarchical coin minted when America first colonized Hawai'i and the Phillipines.
Now as America prepares for a "softer, gentler" version of Der Dimwit, As'ad wallowed in his fears
that Obama's choice for Chief of Staff, the middle-of-the-road dual-citizen Israeli, Rahm Emanuel,
is a signal, or "code language" in As'ad's analysis, for ReZionification of America-Arab apostasy.

As'ad spoke across a wide-range of views, at one point denouncing the left as humorless, tinfoil
hat wingnuts who cling to stale Marxist-Trotskyist lexicons, then digressing to World War II and
Forrester's warning that Israel would destroy America's foreign policy, before careening forward to
the Neo, calling King Abdullah's Saudi Arabia the 'most brutal dictatorship on earth', and closing
with his wry observation that the American left is powerless, given the tripartite Federal system,
reduced to chosing either a doddering incompetent to succeed Der Dimwit, or a venally competent.
"Change will come from the fringe," As'ad concluded.

In question-and-answer, asked whether the Neo-Crusade would continue into an Obama Executive, or if
Afghanistan is meant as a wasteland warehouse to redeploy combat troops and keep DoD's meter running,
As'ad ventured that in the first few months of any 'liberal, feminist' US administration, there will
be a Yudkeivavkei event of Shekinah ("shock and awe"),
enough to remind the American people that terrorists are no longer defined as non-status fighters
who covertly attack civilians, but transmogrified by the McCainaanites into any person, political
party or nation that resists or opposes an American Free Trade worldwide hegemony.

That likely prospect may not be Iran, but Pakistan, enough to destabilize and IFMize the government,
so that special forces can destroy the very real Pakistani intercontinental nuclear missile threat.
Iran's petroleum resources are just too valuable to leave them glowing in the dark for 20,000 years,
but then, again, petrochemical supply destruction has been the Bush-Cheney game plan all along.


Pakistan facing severe austerity measures

In NRO news, "Pakistan is clamping down on foreign exchange dealers in a bid to stem the flow of
capital leaving the country as it teeters on the verge of bankruptcy. The government, led by the
Pakistan People’s Party, has taken controversial measures to restore international confidence in
its economic policies before important meetings next week. Pakistan needs a rapid injection of
US$4billion (Dh14.7bn) to prevent it defaulting on debts by the end of the month (November)."

From World Socialist, "Pakistan to impose IMF-approved economic restructuring program. A senior
Pakistani official told the country's Senate Tuesday that the Pakistan People's Party-led coalition
government will be seeking International Monetary Fund (IMF) approval of its economic program."

IMF loan requirements to governments typically involve severe austerity measures, mandatory cuts
in government employment and health & human services programs, with extensive privatization of
national resources, in addition to a usurous interest burden on top of the loans' repayment.


Zabul tribal leaders accuse officials of corruption

Zabul Surgar: Tribal leaders in Zabul accused some Afghan governmental officials of not delivering on
food-for-work items they have earned in exchange of their labor. An assembly organized in the province
capital Qalat, and eight district tribal leaders representing their people complained about the issue,
accusing the Rural Development ministry of not delivering on its promise.

According to the assembly speakers, the development department claims it is handing out food items
to those who work, but Tribal leader Shenwari of Shenki district maintains workers haven't been given
anything. The speakers also stated that rural development officials responsible for delivering food
also have a hand in Civic Development Communities who manage food items.

Engineer Abdul Razaq Sodmand, the rural development department director, rejected the accusations and
said his department has delivered work-for-food items on time to all districts of the province. Zabul
province governor deputy Gulab Shah Ali Kheal said he has some food items on hand which will be sent
to the district in the near future.

Zabul is a province with severe winters which experiences frequent highway and district roads blockages
Last year roads that lead to the province's capital and main districts were blocked by heavy snows,
which lead to the death of several people due to starvation.

According to some non governmental organizations about six million Afghans face hunger.


Secret Police announce cash-rewards for kidnappers

Kabul Surgar: The National Secret police department has announced cash rewards for those who inform them
of kidnappers' whereabouts in Kabul, or provide police with any kind of information. Wanted posters of
some well-known kidnappers have been posted around Kabul city, as the secret police urged locals to help
them find the kidnappers. Secret Police department spokesman Sayed Ansari said anyone providing factual
information which will help them find the kidnappers will be awarded 50000 cash Afs.


Muslims urge Muslim countries to unite

Kabul Surgar: Many concerned Muslims leaders and Muslim countries representatives called on Muslims worldwide
to reunite and solve the problems that Muslims face in their lives. Talking to an assembly organized by the
Muslim Brotherhood Society, participants urged Muslim countries around the world to take part in ending the
cycle of violence in Afghanistan, and to take current insecurity issues seriously.

The Islamic party of Afghanistan's head and a member of the Wolsi Jirga National Assembly, Burhanadin Rabani,
said there are foreign agents-provocateur trying to create a divide among Muslim groups around the world.
Rabani said now the time has arrived for all Muslim countries to reunite, hold hands together and put away
their differences against the common foreign enemy. He also spoke appreciatively of those Sunni and Shia
Muslim scholars who have made vigorous attempts to identify foreign agents acting against Muslim society.

In an example in Iraq, the Golden Dome of Samarra was allegedly destroyed by foreign demolition experts
acting as Muslim security guards, an act provoking years of civil war between Sunni and Shia'a communities.
Now the Golden Dome is being reconstructed, allegedly to hide any remaining evidence of foreign techniques.

Another assembly speaker, Ayatullah Mohsini, accused unspecified Muslim countries of not having political
freedom. Mohsini said until Sharia Law is enforced in a country and Islamic advocacy are respected, it
would be almost impossible to bring justice to such a society.


Latest coalition air strikes condemned

Kandahar Surgar: The Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) condemned the recent coalition
indiscriminate bombing deaths of civilians in Kandahar province and called it disgrace to human rights.
AIHRCs South Region Office in Kandahar published a report on November 8th condemning the recent U.S.-led
coalition troops' air strikes, which killed tens of innocent civilians in Shawali Kot district. The officials
said local people complained, claiming the dead included women and children who were all innocent civilians.

Coalition forces such air strikes have been deeply condemned and both sides at war are asked to avoid civilian
deaths and casualities in the future. Afghan president Hamid Karzai also condemned the bombing of villages,
talking to the victims' families by phone, and conveying his condolences to those who lost their loved ones.
Mr. Karzai called on the new US president-elect Barack Obama to change war tactics and policies in Afghanistan
and avoid civilian killings to the utmost extent.

The Afghan parliamentarians also urged the Afghan government to put pressure on foreign troops to avoid murder.
Ubaidullah Asakzai, Kandahar province National Assembly (Wolsi Jerga) representative, said such careless tactics
will create a wedge between Afghan civilians, the Afghan national army and coalition troops. He claimed if the
people turn against them, it would be impossible to repair the breach of trust.


Kandahar farmers receive improved wheat seeds

Kandahar Surgar: Rahmatullah Raofi, Kandahar's governor, told reporters that Canada has provided about 300 metric
tons of improved wheat seeds which will be distributed to approximately 36000 farmers of the province. According
to the governor the improved wheat seeds will be distributed to Daman, Panjwaye, Shawali Kot and Zhari districts
of southern Kandahar province.

The Kandahar governor pointed out that farmers will stop growing poppy crops if they are provided improved wheat.
The improved seeds will be planted on 2000 hectares of land, and put an end to the lack of wheat in the country.
Officials intend to distribute the seed to farmers for about 1/4 of their actual cost, as an incentive to change.
Income from sales of the improved seeds will be applied to other agricultural projects by MERCI, the organization
which will conduct the wheat distribution program.

Lisa Burg, Canada Peoples' Deputy representative, spoke to a co-conference with the Kandahar governor, and told
reporters the recent seed aid will bring gradual improvement to Afghanistan's agriculture. Ms. Burg said she will
try to distribute the wheat seeds before the upcoming winter, and will continue helping Afghans until it succeeds.


Afghan cultural association attempts national benefits

Kabul Surgar: In an assembly organized by a Afghan cultural and literature association, participants and members
made efforts to build closer understandings among the country's literature and cultural organizations, and worked
to increase benefits on the country level.

Dr. Khushal Rohi, an active member of the cultural association, made these remarks in the first annual ceremony
held in the Afghan capital Kabul. The association members have gained some notable awards during its first year.
Dr. Rohi said the Afghan cultural and literature association is destined to strengthen its language and culture.

The ceremony covered issues for arranging a seminar under the title of Pushtu and translation, resuming population
census, linguistic expressions improvements in higher educational studies, and creating an understanding among all
the literature associations of the country. According to Dr. Rohi, the Afghan government has not paid much attention
to cultural and literature programs during the last three decades. A association members made endless efforts on their
own to spread their literary arts. Providing education in their mother tongue for approximately 35000 students was
another endeavor achieved by the cultural and literature association, Mr. Rohi said.

Dr. Rohi said he has plans to hold a seminar in order to publish twenty volumes prepared by the association.

Posted by: Shah Loam | Nov 14 2008 6:29 utc | 30

Read Crime & Punishment U$cam? Insane book, literally...haha

Posted by: Al | Nov 14 2008 6:31 utc | 31

Below is the headline article from Debka today and it is troublesome. Maybe it is just a feeler for opinion.

Resumed Gaza terror outcome of Israel’s passivity and over-reliance on Cairo

The prime minister said that a large-scale military confrontation with Hamas is waiting at the end of the road, whereas Barak said that while action must be taken against terror threats, it is important to preserve the truce.
It was clear to the soldiers listening to them that the truce belonged to the past.
Suspense ahead of Hamas aggression was so high Thursday, Nov. 13, that Israel revoked the permission given a few hours earlier for a 30-truck convoy to pass through into the Gaza Strip with food and goods for the population. And a handing-over ceremony for the Gaza Division commanders was called off.

Although Israeli crackdowns are nothing new, tonight I am in a bleak mood. I just see this as part of a bigger, partially interrelated, picture of bleakness as one looks into the future. With only a quick glance one or two days ahead, the scene is breathtaking in a bad way. But then, what importance are 30 trucks of food/provisions if you don’t live in Gaza? And viewing to the West, there are rumors this afternoon/evening of a big sell-off on Wall Street tomorrow, even though Asia’s markets are on a surge for Friday as I write this. But what importance are stock prices to someone like me, who like most of the other billions of souls in this world, don’t invest on Wall Street? Heck, maybe even my good fraternity brother from PU who has worked as an Electrical Engineer at GM for decades, may still get some of his retirement money. Never mind that the GM stock price dropped again, now trading under $3/share, whereas last year, it was over $32/share. Anyways, a few tens of billions thrown that way should fix those problems, eh? Well, for many of us, we can look into this weekend’s big to-do, known as the G20 Summit, a meeting without any published agenda poised to offer its solutions on the global economic crisis. Is everyone excited? Meanwhile, U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson appears to have no clue where to throw the next few hundred billion dollars of U.S. taxpayer money, and he and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke won’t say how they have blown the last two trillion dollars either. Is it true that since September, U.S. government debt per person has risen from $3,000 to almost $35,000? Oh well, “Easy come, Easy go!” Again, that is just looking at the situation today, tomorrow and the next with narrow vision. I don’t suggest looking any further without close friends or family at your side.

PS - Got interrupted before I could finish this. It is now 1:30am Friday, U.S. Eastern Time Zone. Looks like the Futures are down as predicted.

Posted by: Rick | Nov 14 2008 6:53 utc | 32

Posted by: DM | Nov 14 2008 10:27 utc | 33

Obama will prosecute torturers! (On or after 2012, if he wins again)

Salon reports today that those who engaged in torture will be investigated by a non-partisan commission formed shortly after Obama takes office.

The catch: "Between the time necessary for the investigative process and the daunting array of policy problems Obama will face upon taking office, any decision on prosecutions probably would not come until a second Obama presidential term, should there be one."


On Wednesday, a person participating in the talks confirmed that some people involved in the planning felt strongly that the commission would amount to "bullshit" and that Bush officials should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Also see, Disappointment Watch

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 14 2008 10:41 utc | 34

via TPM: (Under daily muck)Former government lawyers are speculating that the Obama and Bush administrations will come to an "unsatisfactory compromise" on whether White House officials must testify about their role in the firing of nine U.S. attorney generals. Congress has subpoenaed top Bush aides Joshua Bolten and Harriet Miers for documents pertaining to the scandal, but the White House claims executive privilege. A September Justice Department report faulted the Bush administration for stonewalling a DOJ investigation of the affair.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 14 2008 11:00 utc | 35


not a bad re-election strategy for 2012: if people know the authorities are breathing down Bush and Cheney's backs and they have to re-elect Obama to finally see justice done, then they will vote for him...

Posted by: ralphieboy | Nov 14 2008 11:01 utc | 36

r'giap, 19 & 20

Bravo, bravo

Posted by: Tantalus | Nov 14 2008 13:02 utc | 37

b @ 24:

Hayden makes KAOS' Ziegfried look downright prescient... a little bit Chauncey Gardner, a little bit Maxwell Smart, w/a dash taken from characters in CANADIAN BACON's war room.

Sarah Palin would fit right in.

Posted by: jdmckay | Nov 14 2008 13:37 utc | 38

With regards to Hayden, I posted this Barton Gellman back around the beginning of October, author of 'Angler: The Cheney Vice Presidency.

Also, DN had Barton Gellman on in which he made the following comments w/regard to Heyden...

BARTON GELLMAN: It starts just a few days after 9/11, in one sense, because it turns out the Vice President is truly the father of the warrantless domestic surveillance program. He called in Mike Hayden, who was the head of the National Security Agency, and he said, “Tell me what you’re not doing against al-Qaeda that you could be doing.”

And Hayden has this sort of famous, or famous in Washington, briefing device. He draws a Venn diagram with three overlapping ovals: one of them is what they would love to be able to do, one is what they’re technically capable of doing, and one is what’s legal. And what he says is, you know, “Where we work is right in the space where those three ovals intersect.”

And Cheney tells him, “Suppose that third oval wasn’t there. Suppose you were not constrained by the law.” And he is not saying, “Let’s break the law.” He’s saying, “Let’s suppose there were no legal restriction. Then what would you do?” And he does not go in the direction of asking for a change in the law. He presses the interpretation that, as commander-in-chief in wartime and because intelligence gathering is inherent in war, Bush doesn’t have to follow the explicit prohibitions in two felony statutes on warrantless surveillance, that Bush, as commander-in-chief, can simply override those and override them secretly

And so, fast-forward now something around a little over two years later. December of 2003, the Justice Department starts to become very doubtful that parts of this program are legal. There’s a new guy heading the Office of Legal Counsel, which is sort of like the internal Supreme Court of the executive branch. And he says, “I just can’t back this thing.” And it needs to be certified as legal by the Justice Department every forty-five days. So it’s—there’s a deadline coming up in March of ’04, March 11th. And for three months, Dick Cheney and David Addington are trying to squelch a legal insurgency at Justice, where they’re saying, with increasing intensity, “We can’t go along with this.”


But the most interesting interview was done on the KPFA morning show,( here )in which he, (Gellman), describes how Cheney keeps Bush out of the loop for several months w/regards wiretapping, and how Cheney behind the scenes works with M. Heyden to spy on Americans.

However, in my usual suspicion, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if this book wasn't a deep op intended to keep Jr. from being charged with high crimes, as they know Cheney could take a dirt nap at anytime, and then poppy and crew could blame it all on the dead dick. In other words, I believe the Washington post is nothing, if not a arm of Poppies CIA.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 14 2008 14:52 utc | 39

Heads up, as we speak, This week and into next, NorthCom and NORAD are conducting a joint exercise called “Vigilant Shield ’09.”

What Is NorthCom Up To?
By Matthew Rothschild, November 12, 2008

This week and into next, NorthCom and NORAD are conducting a joint exercise called “Vigilant Shield ’09.”

The focus will be on “homeland defense and civil support,” a NorthCom press release states.

From November 12-18, it will be testing a “synchronized response of federal, state, local and international partners in preparation for homeland defense, homeland security, and civil support missions in the United States and abroad.”

NorthCom is short for the Pentagon’s Northern Command. President Bush created it in October 2002. (The Southern Command, or SouthCom, covers Latin America. Central Command, or CentCom, covers Iraq and Afghanistan. And the new AfriCom covers, well, you get the picture.)

Vigilant Shield ’09 “will include scenarios to achieve exercise objectives within the maritime, aerospace, ballistic missile defense, cyber, consequence management, strategic communications, and counter terrorism domains,” the press release states.

NorthCom’s press release also says that other participants in the exercise include the U.S. Strategic Command’s “Global Lightning 09,” which is a plan to use nuclear weapons in a surprise attack.

The Pentagon’s “Bulwark Defender 09” is also involved in the exercise, and it is a cyberspace protection outfit of the Pentagon.

Something called the “Canada Command DETERMINED DRAGON” also is participating, as is the California National Guard and California’s “Golden Guardian.”

California’s involvement appears to center around planning for a catastrophic earthquake.

“Under the leadership of Governor Schwarzenegger and direction of his Office of Homeland Security, the nation’s largest state sponsored emergency exercise will take place November 13-18,” a press release from the governor’s office states.

“Golden Guardian 2008 tests California’s capability to respond and recover during a major catastrophic earthquake. The Golden Guardian 2008 full-scale exercise scenario focuses on a simulated, catastrophic 7.8 magnitude earthquake along the southern portion of the San Andreas Fault.”

NorthCom is being shy about giving out additional information about Vigilant Shield ’09. When I called for a fact sheet on it, I was told there was none.

Also see, NORAD, USNORTHCOM participate in Exercise Vigilant Shield 09

VS09 will run concurrent with other Department of Defense-sponsored and international exercises to more realistically test the synchronized response of federal, state, local and international mission partners in preparation for homeland defense, homeland security and civil support missions in the United States and abroad.

Posted by: PSA from Uncle $cam | Nov 14 2008 15:20 utc | 40

The Friedman column linked above is satire - probably not good one, but funny. The real Friedman seems cranky these days. No wonder when one knows this titbit:

But based on the bad news coming out of shopping-mall owner General Growth Properties [GGP], it is no wonder Friedman is feeling crankier than usual. That’s because the author’s wife, Ann (née Bucksbaum), is an heir to the General Growth fortune. In the past year, the couple—who live in an 11,400-square-foot mansion in Bethesda, Maryland—have watched helplessly as General Growth stock has fallen 99 percent, from a high of $51 to a recent 35 cents a share. The assorted Bucksbaum family trusts, once worth a combined $3.6 billion, are now worth less than $25 million.

But don’t expect Friedman to go from Beirut to Jerusalem begging for money. The distinguished columnist (and former New Establishment member) is still said to get at least $50,000 per speaking engagement on top of the millions he makes writing best-sellers.

Posted by: b | Nov 14 2008 15:32 utc | 41

b #41,

I wonder if these Bucksbaum guys of GGP are coming out of this as loosers. Too quick a conclusion here maybe.

Posted by: Rick | Nov 14 2008 16:21 utc | 42

The Friedman “piece” and cases like Foley, etc...

The American inclination to forgive and forget, once the cleansing of apologetics is effected (note that repair is missing) to start over is appealing, or even admirable - ppl can rise up again, start over, succeed, etc. and some amount of forgiveness should prevail. That is the mantra..

It is used selectively, allows those in power to get away with anything as long as they do penance on the Blue Screen, some arcane ritual about moral lapses, the temptation (devil), a public announcement of seeing the light, turning over a new leaf, and future change will do the trick (angel). An automatic pass is handed out to those who are part of the Cabal or still ‘in’ with the revolving circles of the PTB. Others don’t fare so well.

The poor are not offered that option, be it about debt, drugs, anti-social behavior, minor victimless crime, protest, etc.

Part of the reason for this state of affairs is that the US lacks an overall social contract (such as universal single payer health care) so that relationships are collapsed onto the personal, reduced to the schemes ppl use in their daily social lives - duct tape to protect one’s home, one guy is honest and deserves a break, the other not, Saddam was inherently evil, Obama is cool, etc. It also leads to demands, I have such and such a right, I demand, etc. - as in family relationships. Politicians then pander to these demands to get elected...none of them ever are realized, it is impossible.

there is not one sliver of human decency in these monster. not one

rgiap wrote.

that is it.

Posted by: Tangerine | Nov 14 2008 17:12 utc | 43

I have trouble believing that anyone above a certain income/influence level is ever punished for anything.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 14 2008 17:28 utc | 44

Many thanks r'giap foe the prose, can't help but love how they look. Like towering monoliths. Made of steel. Light as air. 4 dimensional slice of life.

Posted by: anna missed | Nov 14 2008 19:11 utc | 45

followup to #3

center for media & democracy: The Eisenstadt Hoax:A Real-life Example of a "Fake Fake"

For anyone who has not yet figured this out yet, here's the story in a nutshell:

The hoax in this case is Eisenstadt's claim that he was the source for Carl Cameron's report on Fox News. Cameron never spoke to Eisenstadt and did not use Eisenstadt as the basis for his reporting.

Got it? If you're still confused, read the above paragraph a second time, or a third time if you need it. If you still have any doubts, read the New York Times story carefully. Its wording is a little less clear than it ought to be, but it also makes the point I just emphasized. Carl Cameron is standing by his story, and apparently Sarah Palin really was confused about Africa.

[italics in the original post]

Posted by: b real | Nov 14 2008 19:35 utc | 46

i keep poking around that nyt july 4th edition. some great articles like this one Senate Gets Tough On “Limited Liability” to Rein in, Humanize Corporations

This penalty would be divided among Union Carbide shareholders, each of whom could expect to spend from a few weeks to several years in prison, depending on the size of investment. A minimum penalty could be set by a judge — so that an investor with even a fraction of a share would be liable for, say, two weeks in jail. This would apply even to those who had invested via mutual funds, without knowing the precise direction of their investments.

Mr. McCain said that while “tough on crime” policy has been shown to be useless with humans, it would work with corporations. “Corporations are just machines, not like teenage kids. They can be forced to act as if they knew right from wrong.”

“Corporate behavior has become a very loud cry for ‘tough love,’” the governor said. “We’ve got to adapt to a changing world, and sometimes that means changing laws.”

“Fines are not punishment, they do not build character,” Mr. McCain said. “What’s a ten-million-dollar fine to a giant corporation? Fines seldom if ever affect the pocketbooks of shareholders or managers, those who make the decisions or power the machine. Hitting pockets and people directly is a different thing.”


The ultimate aim of the program, Mr. McCain said, is to help corporations achieve their long-term goals. “Corporations have spent the last century and a half trying to obtain all the legal rights of people,” Mr. McCain said. “They’re now technically persons, but they’re not really human. We owe it to them — and to our species — to help them finish their quest.”

Mr. McCain went on to explain that corporations still, even today, lack one distinguishing human characteristic: a conscience. “Corporations were invented to keep investors innocent of crimes committed with the help of their money, accidentally or not. But now that corporations have become legally almost human, they have to be taught that their actions have consequences.”


For those who do not thrive on such risks, Mr. McCain suggested that the mutual fund industry would easily adopt new decision-making processes, just as it has in the past. “The prime mechanism of regulation will be shareholder judgement. If investment in one company is likely to land you in jail, you’ll invest in another instead. Mutual fund companies will find it an exciting challenge to obtain and keep investor confidence. It will reinvigorate the industry, and in fact the whole concept of investment.”

Posted by: annie | Nov 14 2008 22:06 utc | 47

Can You Spel Nuklur?

You don't need to be an astrophysicist, to see the writing charcoaled on the wall.

Adding to deliberate energy supply-destruction regulator insults, looming carbon cap-and-trade tax regulations like those up and down the West Coast, that will tax everything you use, from annual vehicle licensing fees, to winter heating oil, to household appliances, construction materials, even ... even ... your poop!.

When I worked at EPA in the 1970's, we were just glad to get the rivers to stop burning or glowing in the dark at night. Tighten up discharge pipelines, clean up and liner landfills, put scrubbers on powerplant stacks and platinum catalysts on cars, hey, you got it dicked. The EPA ran out of reasons for being ten years ago.

Now they plan to: cut our access to heating, manufacturing and transportation fuels; increase our tax-fee burden; and apply those tax revenues to hiring a bazillion more EcoNazis to pencil flip their way to the next Profit Millenia:

Carbon credits for dying! Man, ... you're stinking up the joint! With our new patented Miracle Eco-Go, you'll get a $100 cap-and-trade credit for shoveling your carcass underground. Use it to pay off your assisted suicide family medical bills!

Soylent Nuklur! Arghlll.....

Posted by: Larry Holmes | Nov 14 2008 23:29 utc | 48

Our giap!

Posted by: beq | Nov 15 2008 0:01 utc | 49

You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum

Bring gloom down to the minimum
Have faith or pandemonium
Liable to walk upon the scene

(To illustrate his last remark
Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark
What did they do
Just when everything looked so dark)

Man, they said we better
Accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between
No, do not mess with Mister In-Between
Do you hear me, hmm?

Can we expect your donation of $100?

Posted by: Shah Loam | Nov 15 2008 1:50 utc | 50

for my beloved/is a lamb/climbing the step/in eisensteins film
alluding to synthesis/that never came/or resolution/of thesis
initiated by lenin/in railway carriage/funded by germans/to end war
& lenin read/aloud to companion/while drinking tea/from isiah certainly
it was reference/to some things/or other matter/he’d prefer/not to discuss
with central committee/the wolf also/shall dwell with/lamb & leopard
shall lie down/with the kid/& the calf/& young lion/& fatling together
& little child/shall lead them/referring to jerusalem/but lenin leant
from this passage/that we need/messiah to motivate/desire to change
circumstances as described/in the eighteenth/brummairre of louis
bonaparte marx’s essay/still read somewhere/in latin america/perhaps some canton
in new china/where distinguished emporers/turn tianemen square/into endless circle

themselves into ogres/occident can understand/such measures usefull
in the south/of united states/not long ago/in los angeles/even more recently
interpretation of events/still support thesis/capitalism hasn’t soul
this precise fact/an ancient truth/endowed with emptiness/now we yearn
for another metamorphosis/something less primitive/all factors considered
we’re no longer/volatile or veangefull/but sublimated species

precipitated by longing/in a psyche/that barely functions
substitute for salt/in our chemistry/another constellation entirely
altering all absolutes/in imperial order/above this abyss/we are consuming
like midwestern americans/who follow pattern/& a mold/that’s already been
engraved with name/they can recognise/valour destructive form/of a ressurection
that isn’t symmetrical/nor is anchored/in any salvation/worth the cost
so they’re prudent/depending on duality/of our architecture
becoming sacred hermaphrodites/searching for love/in forbidden locations
where apostles announce/on the hour/at every hour/tome of second/coming to this
fisherman that carpenter/near home/by shores/sea of galilee
where supreme conquest/occurring by magic/this elusive treasure/has long gone
on endurance run/with another theology/you can throw/dice into dam
we are excavating/our sins here/for good measure/we leave yours/out in cold
there is eternity/encrusted with emeralds/where they say redemption is possible
if you’re prepared/to degrade yourself/like thirties star/in a film
frank capra certainly/source of illumination/to that paradise
where frances farmer/goes after being/in an asylum/reading clifford odets
confession before committee/where he asks/where is garfield/when you need
him on drunk/in new york/playing it brave/with italian boys/who know source
happiness or hell/depends on numbers/you can carry/in your pocket
when you walk/towards a monastery/where they have/set up screening/of movie
plato directed/possibly for discourse/that couldn’t be/explained with words
consuming clarity/as an aesthetic/lead you nowhere/heidegger found out
much too late/to repent except/in the pages/of new york/review of books
where testimonies given/by bioethic boys/from unknown universities
where they molest/students & forget/to mark papers/except in bed
another fury born/& i know/this most perfect/moment to mime
the great work/is not redeemed/nor is it/ressurected perhaps rejected
out of hand/weapons of heaven/come to clear/ties that bind/for heroes
there is another/kind of splendour/there is another/kind of solace
because historical agents/dress very well/for ceremony
together we are/pulling these thorns/from my flesh
leaving terrible texture/to enrich tale/i’m not telling/but you will
in a cave/when you’re hiding/from dragon/who has face/you will recognise
in due time/you will inherit/an oak tree/or perhaps fig/some sacred scenery
where you can/cast into abyss/that which lies/heavily upon you
let man forget/divine is art/of forgetting fully/if you would
raise yourself up/if you yourself/would dwell upon/the heights cast
into the sea/that which lies/heavily upon you/pursue a protection
from the sirens/who’re singing out/your name clearly/for all hearing
when we stand/on edge/of a lake/& witness torrents
nreaking around you/& we are/already in mourning/for another loss
on a river/so long ago/before i reached/an imagined coast
i have discovered/charity in chest/i have thrown/off jetty
& thisbuild/my noble reputation/attributing all alchemy
to what’s human/do not go/to any intellect/for its volcano
where everything burns/& vultures descend/to do business/they’re equipped for
all our lamentations/have been heard/at some time/or other rime
we can speak/of resistance certainly/but it is/not a cure
i would sell/on street corner/of any city/ancient or modern/here & now
i am conducting/an absent orchestra/wanting to play/a little music

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 15 2008 2:44 utc | 51

Posted by: b real | Nov 15 2008 7:46 utc | 52

Not sure this is correct, but it is funny:

According to Mr Levitte, the Russian seemed unconcerned by international reaction. “I am going to hang Saakashvili by the balls,” Mr Putin declared.

Mr Sarkozy thought he had misheard. “Hang him?” — he asked. “Why not?” Mr Putin replied. “The Americans hanged Saddam Hussein.”

Mr Sarkozy, using the familiar tu, tried to reason with him: “Yes but do you want to end up like [President] Bush?” Mr Putin was briefly lost for words, then said: “Ah — you have scored a point there.”

Which explains the saying "Everybody is useful, if only as a bad example"

Posted by: b | Nov 15 2008 7:53 utc | 53

Yeah, that is all Bush is good for. I think the Democratic Party leaders appreciate that too.

Posted by: RIck | Nov 15 2008 11:45 utc | 54

Roubini 20 Reasons Why the U.S. Consumer is Capitulating, thus Triggering the Worst U.S. Recession in Decades

only the last point:

To bring back the household savings rate to the level of a decade ago (about 6% of GDP) consumption will have to fall – relative to current GDP levels – by almost a trillion dollar. If all of this adjustment were to occur in 12 months GDP would contract directly by 7% and indirectly (including the further collapse of residential and corporate capex spending in a severe recession) by 10%, an exemplification of the Keynesian “paradox of thrift”. If such an adjustment were to occur over 24 months rather than 12 months you would still have negative GDP growth of 5% for two years in a row with a cumulative fall in GDP from its peak of 10% (note that in the worst US recession since WWII such cumulative fall in GDP was only 3.7% in 1957-58). One can thus only hope that this adjustment of consumption and savings rates occurs only slowly over time – four years rather than two. Even in that scenario the cumulative fall of GDP could be of the order of 4-5%, i.e. the worst US recession since WWII. Note that the cumulative fall in GDP in the 2001 recession was only 0.4% and in the 1990-9 recession was only 1.3%. So, the current recession may end up being three times as long and at least three times as deep (in terms of output contraction) than the last two and worse than any other post WWII recession.
It actually would likely be worse a slump than the great depression, but it would start at a much higher level of life quality.

Posted by: b | Nov 15 2008 20:43 utc | 55

Here is another opportunity to make bets on how long it will take the MSM to find their way back, if they can, from lies they so eagerly disseminated:

U.S. Task Force Found Few Iranian Arms in Iraq

The caches that included Iranian weapons thus represented just 2 percent of all caches found. That means Iranian-made weapons were a fraction of one percent of the total weapons found in Shi'a militia caches during that period.

The extremely small proportion of Iranian arms in Shi'a militia weapons caches further suggests that Shi'a militia fighters in Iraq had been getting weapons from local and international arms markets rather than from an official Iranian-sponsored smuggling network.

That treatment of EFPs in the caches appears to contradict claims by U.S. officials throughout 2007 and much of 2008 that EFPs were being smuggled into Iraq by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. The allegedly Iranian-manufactured EFPs had been the centrepiece of the U.S. military's February 2007 briefing charging Iran with arming Shi'a militiamen in Iraq.

To be read together with MoA threads from Feb 2007

New Anti-Iranq Propaganda
Weapon Smuggling: Intelligence vs. Evidence

Posted by: Alamet | Nov 15 2008 23:10 utc | 56

Handbags at dawn over at Kos re Nader.

Posted by: biklett | Nov 16 2008 7:14 utc | 57

Put your hand up if you think that this weekends little G-20 party accomplished nothing...

Posted by: Al | Nov 16 2008 8:26 utc | 58

hand up

Posted by: annie | Nov 16 2008 9:27 utc | 59

"...The American Institute for Science and International Security, headed by David Albright, one the world's top experts on nuclear weapons and the prevention of nuclear proliferation, has urged President-elect Barack Obama to press Israel to halt production of its nuclear weapons..."


Quite a bold (unrealistic?) recommendation, though one that I would support, for the sake of (hopefully, one day) peace in the Middle-East.

Posted by: | Nov 16 2008 11:50 utc | 60

Iraqi Parliament Agrees to SOFA.

Posted by: General Issimo | Nov 16 2008 17:39 utc | 61

general, only the cabinet has approved thus far. parliament votes nov 24.

Posted by: annie | Nov 16 2008 18:17 utc | 62

general, only the cabinet has approved thus far. parliament votes nov 24

(i eliminated link because it wasn't passing spam filter.)

Posted by: annie | Nov 16 2008 18:19 utc | 63

Spreading democracy, freedom, mom and apple pie part 357

Islamabad borrows $13b to shore up economy
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan has agreed to borrow US$7.6 billion ($13.52 billion) from the International Monetary Fund to stabilise the economy of the strategically important nation on the front lines of the United States battle against al Qaeda and the Taleban.

The Government had been reluctant to go to the IMF but had little choice once even close allies - the US, China and Saudi Arabia - snubbed its pleas for significant bilateral aid.

Pakistan's finance chief said the IMF agreed to the bailout after endorsing plans to tackle the country's huge budget and trade deficits.

US blamed for Pakistan deaths
8:15AM Saturday Nov 15, 2008

Pakistani intelligence officials say a suspected United States missile strike has killed at least nine people in a village near the Afghan border.

Two officials said the strike hit a house in the North Waziristan tribal region yesterday. There was no immediate word on the identity of the victims.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Nov 16 2008 19:21 utc | 64

Obama to Name More Cabinet Members

President-elect Barack Obama will meet with former GOP presidential candidate John McCain Monday in Chicago, Illinois. The meeting will take place at the Obama transition headquarters.

"It's well known that they share an important belief that Americans want and deserve a more effective and efficient government, and will discuss McCain's involvement in his new cabinet," Obama transition spokesman Nick Shapiro said in a statement Sunday.

Obama will meet with McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, along with Obama's new chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, to announce additions to his cabinet. McCain is touted to be Obama's selection for the Secretary of State position, and Graham will likely head the Department of Defense.

Rumors persist that Bill Richardson of New Mexico will likely become Obama's new Department of Homeland Security head, and Patricia A. Woertz, Chairman and CEO of Archer Daniels Midland is rumored to be short-listed as Secretary of Agriculture.

Meanwhile, the man who steered Obama's Senate office will now move over to the White House with the incoming president. The Obama Transition Office announced Sunday that Peter Rouse, currently Obama's chief of staff in his Senate office, will serve as a senior adviser to the President.

Madeleine Albright and Hillary Clinton, who have both been hovering behind the scenes around the White House annex of late, will be offered honorariums for their service to the country during Obama's inaugural ceremony.

Posted by: Beau Rigard | Nov 17 2008 2:23 utc | 65

The Congo ceasefire was good while it lasted.

Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 17 2008 12:50 utc | 66

Hopefully this will brighten your day like it did mine:

Emily Jacir, Palestinian Artist, Wins Major Guggenheim Prize

Posted by: Bea - for annie | Nov 17 2008 15:51 utc | 67

Two articles I just read in the International Herald Tribune worry me.

- 1: Supposedly, the Taliban have threatened to attack Paris unless the French pull their troops out of Afghanistan. I was planning on going over to Paris sometime soon, but this just freaks me out. I mean, who knows if this threat is rubbish or legitimate, and how do you verify which of the two it is? And what the hell is the French government supposed to do? Seriously. You can either pull your troops out and hope that the Taliban keep to their word (crazy, I know, but this is an option) or alternatively keep your troops in Afghanistan in a bid to 'win', thereby risking more of your soldiers dying and further inflating anti-French sentiments within Afghanistan and the Taliban. How the hell do you, as a government, calculate which of these two options is most appropriate?

- 2: This article just disturbed me because I interpreted it as being quite aggressive and hostile in nature. Why even print / publish this sort of stuff in the mainstream media? It serves only to inflame existing security related concerns held by the governments and people of the nations in regard (the U.S. and China)...

Posted by: Al | Nov 17 2008 16:30 utc | 68

bea, excellent news. for you.

Posted by: annie | Nov 17 2008 16:34 utc | 69

Python Eats Bird Alive

Posted by: annie | Nov 17 2008 16:53 utc | 70

al, Supposedly, the Taliban have threatened to attack Paris unless the French pull their troops out of Afghanistan. I was planning on going over to Paris sometime soon, but this just freaks me out.

at least you have a choice, and at least the french have a choice. don't go to paris if it worries you. the afghans on the other hand, they don't have a choice. their country is being attacked by both the US and france. besides, if they are so bent on fighting these afghan soldiers, what difference does it make where they fight them? either way there will be collateral damage. do you think the loss of french or american lives is somehow more threatening or painful than those afghanis who die? it is rather odd that you would express concern about this aspect of war just because it may be taking place on the land of one of the aggressors, or a place you want to visit. i guess that is the risk you take when you invade other countries, that members of those countries might act in response, on your turf.


You can either pull your troops out and hope that the Taliban keep to their word (crazy, I know, but this is an option)

why is this so crazy? is it more threatening than the french or US 'keeping their word' to come bomb the fuck out of you. at least the french have an option, unlike those afghans who are getting airbombed. hey, i have an idea.. why don't we let the talibam decide who is and who is not an enemy in france. we can just take their word for it when they claim to kill some french terrorists(crazy, I know, but this is an option). it is the same option the afghans have been putting up with and will continue to put up with.

How the hell do you, as a government, calculate which of these two options is most appropriate?

you really have to ask? i have a good idea, if the french want to invade afghanistan how about they assert an alleged threat by some afghanis to blow up paris. that way they can preemptively keep blowing the fuck out of afghanistan on the pretext if they don't, the taliban will invade. as a government it might be prudent to assume if you invade another country, that country might respond. the best way to avoid this is to leave them alone. that is how the hell you calculate what is appropriate. it is called 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'.

Posted by: annie | Nov 17 2008 17:23 utc | 71

Pirates Capture Saudi Supertanker

By itself this is an isolated incident only affecting the shipowners, but I've seen more and more of these attacks in recent months. If insurance rates and overall risk rise to the point where it's no longer cost-effective for the shipping companies to run these routes, or risk rises to the point where it's no longer cost-effective for Lloyd's and others to underwrite the oil supertankers running these routes, it could have a large impact on the amount of oil reaching Europe and the US.

If there's anything a global empire ought to be doing, it's protecting international shipping. Yet despite the 5 carrier groups the US has in the Persian Gulf area, this clearly isn't being done. Like so many other situations, something about this doesn't add up...

Posted by: Chemmett | Nov 17 2008 18:22 utc | 72


did you post that video with snake eating the bird?


Posted by: dan of steele | Nov 17 2008 19:29 utc | 73

adding to the strange circumstances re #72

Hijacked Saudi oil tanker in Arabian Sea freed: TV

DUBAI (, Agencies)

A Saudi crude tanker hijacked by pirates in the Arabian Sea on Monday has been freed, AlArabiya TV reported citing an unnamed official Saudi source.

The U.S. Navy, which earlier reported the hijacking, said the Saudi-owned super tanker seized by pirates off the coast of Africa is approaching the Somali coast.

Saudi Aramco, which owns the supertanker, said it had no knowledge of any release.

The U.S. Navy earlier said that pirates have taken control of a Saudi oil supertanker off east Africa.

Posted by: b real | Nov 17 2008 19:49 utc | 74

Yeah, I know... the US navy says otherwise.

Fifth Fleet Commander Jane Campbell said the incident took place southeast of Mombasa, Kenya, and that the ship was approaching anchorage near Somalia's northern semi-autonmous region of Puntland. She denied reports from Al-Arabiya television that it had been freed.

So who knows what to believe.

Posted by: Chemmett | Nov 17 2008 19:59 utc | 75

a bit of dark humor, illustrating, as has been pointed out here repeatedly, just how little power the djibouti agreement holds on the ground in somalia

Posted: 9:12:00 AM -- AU troops deployed new army base

Burundian army official major general Nyayangura Javanol told Shabelle by phone that their troops have been deployed at Jalle Siad former military camp in Mogadishu as parts of activities wanted to put into operation the ceasefire peace pact jointly signed by the transitional government and the opposition group of ARS.

Weve made new military academy and we deployed our troops at Jalle Siad to precede Djibouti peace agreement Javanol said.

He further said that they would deploy troops on new areas but he declined to reveal specific location they are planning to deploy troops.

The AU AMISOM troops in Mogadishu based little specific areas in Mogadishu but this is the first time they've widely announced deployment of their troops in new army bases..

Posted: 8:43:00 PM -- New AU peacekeepers army base attacked

Armed insurgents fighters have assaulted a Burundian troops based a new army base in the Somali capital later on Monday, residents said.

The clash started when Former Jalle Siad Military camp have been under fired by Islamist fighters where AMISOM troops based sparking heavy fighting.

The two sides have pounded with different kinds of weapons including artillery shelling that created huge fears to the nearby residents.

Its yet unknown the exact causalities of that attack although sources close to Burundian forces told Shabelle that their troops have suffered indefinite causalities as their officials have declined to comment on the latest clashes.

Posted by: b real | Nov 17 2008 20:09 utc | 76

from the mel goodman interview on monday's democracy now (no relation to host amy goodman), Ex-CIA Officials Tied to Rendition Program and Faulty Iraq Intel Tapped to Head Obama’s Intelligence Transition Team

amy sets it up w/

No appointees have been named as yet, but questions are already being raised about the people heading Obama’s transition efforts on intelligence policy. John Brennan and Jami Miscik, both former intelligence officials under George Tenet, are leading the review of intelligence agencies and helping make recommendations to the new administration.


John Brennan was deputy executive secretary to George Tenet during the worst violations during the CIA period in the run-up to the Iraq war, so he sat there at Tenet’s knee when they passed judgment on torture and abuse, on extraordinary renditions, on black sites, on secret prisons. He was part of all of that decision making.

Jami Miscik was the Deputy Director for Intelligence during the run-up to the Iraq war. So she went along with the phony intelligence estimate of October 2002, the phony white paper that was prepared by Paul Pillar in October 2002. She helped with the drafting of the speech that Colin Powell gave to the United Nations—[inaudible] 2003, which made the phony case for war to the international community.

So, when George Tenet said, "slam dunk, we can provide all the intelligence you need,” [inaudible] to the President in December of 2002, it was people like Jami Miscik and John Brennan who were part of the team who provided that phony intelligence. So what I think people at the CIA are worried about—and I’ve talked to many of them over the weekend—is that there will never be any accountability for these violations and some of the unconscionable acts committed at the CIA, which essentially amount to war crimes, when you’re talking about torture and abuse and secret prisons. So, where are we, in terms of change? This sounds like more continuity.


John Brennan has defended the warrantless eavesdropping. John Brennan has basically defended all of the violations that were committed at the CIA in the run-up to the war and in the postwar period. So the signal this sends to CIA employees who tried to get it right—and there were a few who tried to get it right—is the worst kind of signal. And if this is Obama’s judgment about a national security team, it’s very reminiscent of what Bill Clinton did in 1993, when he appointed people such as Jim Woolsey and Les Aspin and Warren Christopher and Tony Lake to the national security positions, and all of them had to be removed before the first term was over. So this is very disquieting, what we’re learning now.


In fact, NPR attributed Obama’s reversal on FISA and telecom immunity to the fact that he was relying on the advice of John Brennan, an emphatic supporter of these policies.


Well, then you have to wonder who he’s relying on, in terms of advice, to keep Bob Gates at the Pentagon, which I think is another example of continuity and not change. You mean to tell me that there are no Democrats who are qualified to become the Secretary of Defense? Bob Gates has supported all of the policies that Obama said he was going to look at very carefully and seemed to oppose: expansion of NATO, bringing Georgia and Ukraine into NATO, deployment of missiles in Poland, deployment of radars in the Czech Republic, the continued acquisition of a national missile defense, which is the most expensive item in the Pentagon’s procurement project, an item that we’ve spent over $500 billion on in the last forty years. This is—again, this is not change; this is continuity.

Posted by: b real | Nov 17 2008 22:32 utc | 77


Yeah Annie, I agree. I loath war and have always believed that it, along with all variations of violence, is ultimately futile, and that it serves primarily to engender in the oppressed an increased amount of hate within them, to be then re-directed at their oppressors.

But still, no one can trust anyone.

Pull out, stay in, trust them or not? Repercussions for the French vis-à-vis their trans-Atlantic relationships if they do decide to thrown in the towel? It's fucked. Deciding these sorts of things is tremendously difficulty, I think.

Posted by: Al | Nov 18 2008 2:14 utc | 78

I just linked in. So sorry I missed this. Great satire. Obvious from the first line "peace in Iraq" but still very, very fine.

Sick? Not half as sick as what we really do.

Posted by: Gaianne | Nov 18 2008 5:09 utc | 79

Since the MSM is finally getting on to the real story on EFP's and weapons smuggled into Iraq from Iran (didn't happen), maybe they're ready to move on to a point I beat like a dead horse last summer ->that the real Iranian influence in Iraq wasn't the "special groups" but the Iraqi government itself.

Posted by: anna missed | Nov 18 2008 6:12 utc | 80

No surprises, but some interesting detail, in this JVP report on opposition to the occupation within Israel. (Meanwhile, thanks for the n-th time to b real for single-handedly providing counter-information to the "official narrative" regarding the Horn of Africa.)

Posted by: Hannah K. O'Luthon | Nov 18 2008 6:14 utc | 81>Peter Shiff on fox news throughout 2007-8 predicting the financial meltdown against the (repeated) mockery and howling laughter of the regulars. Shameless fools.

Posted by: anna missed | Nov 18 2008 8:44 utc | 82

Call me a cynic but I can't help but wonder if Schiff really believed what he said.

he's been singing the same song for three years every time predicting that the big crash was right around the corner. he was spot on, on the causes of the economic crash but nevertheless I believe Fox had him own so as to cover their asses.
Everyone knows the boom bang bust cycle of capitalism although few can accurately predict exactly when it is going to hit a particular stage.
So by having Schiff on being the 'wet blanket' while three other 'investment advisers' talked the market up spruiking bad buys right through their plunge to the basement Fox have effectively protected themselves from any attempt at a lawsuit esp if it transpired any Fox executive held a tranche of stock in some dog these other sleazy salesmen were spruiking.
eg one of em was pushing Bear Stearns even though that stock was in the tailspin it never recovered from. Schiff told him and the others who were pushing Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs that everyone should stay right away from 'finincials'.

Whether Schiff was in on this or not, his appearences were a particularly cynical murdochian move.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Nov 18 2008 9:28 utc | 83

It's not a matter of whether the war is not real or if it is. Victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous...The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects. And its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia but to keep the very structure of society intact.-1984, George Orwell — Get Osama bin Laden! That's President-elect Barack Obama's mission, he said last night in his first interview since winning the White House. "It is a top priority for us to stamp out al Qaeda once and for all," Obama told CBS's "60 Minutes."

While I am dubious of the NYP, ABC and LA times has confirmed this (I haven't watched 60 minutes and don't plan to) "I'll Get Osama". "Top Priority" Obama Vows...

I have nothing else to offer or say that even resembles sanity...

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 18 2008 12:22 utc | 84

Peter Schiff, along with the likes of Max Keiser (dot com) Jim Rogers and Ron Paul are more likely to be correct in their medium-term economic forecasts than most. They represent solid, intelligent, experienced and learned experts in this field.

Posted by: Al | Nov 18 2008 12:40 utc | 85


Posted by: b real | Nov 18 2008 16:47 utc | 86

Lieberman keeps Senate chairmanship

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked that the democrats would have so little spine.

Posted by: dan of steele | Nov 18 2008 17:32 utc | 87


the democrats gutlessness with lieberman - spectacular

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 18 2008 17:47 utc | 88

@b real @86 - ?

Posted by: b | Nov 18 2008 18:40 utc | 89

@89 - heh. didn't realize the link changes or i wouldn't have posted it. at the time that i did, it was to show that we had a visitor from 'israel ministry of defence' (195.160.240.#) hitting the southern sudan thread 23 minutes after i posted a comment there, which i found slightly interesting, esp given that the subject of the thread is the hijacked mv faina

Posted by: b real | Nov 18 2008 20:06 utc | 90

clear as a january adelaide morning, and as redolent of so much else, r'giap

Posted by: theodor | Nov 18 2008 23:10 utc | 91

chicago tribune article, part validation of what we've been warning of & part propaganda

African armies receive U.S. expertise, ammo

TADJOURA, Djibouti—In hundreds of military training programs from the Sahara to the Seychelles, the U.S. is quietly bolstering Africa's ragtag armies to fight extremism so the Pentagon won't have to.

Some experts have taken to calling this strategy — not always admiringly — "America's African Rifles" after an indigenous African unit organized by Britain to fight its bloody colonial wars of the 19th Century.

Over the past five years, 21 African countries have hosted military instructors in the biggest-ever U.S. training effort on the continent.

in her testimony before the subcommittee on national security and foreign affairs of the house committee on cversight and government reform [hold on a moment... let me catch my breath!.. okay] back on july 15, 2008, ms. theresa whelan, DoD's deputy asst secdef for african affairs [wheez!], told congresscritters that

we have actually military-to-military relations with pretty much every country in Africa with the exception of the government of Sudan, currently Zimbabwe, although we actually do have an HIV/AIDS program that continues with Zimbabwe, and Eritrea.

back to the tribune article

"We've worked with hundreds of Kenyans, Ethiopians and now Djiboutians," said Staff Sgt. Albert Ignacio, 44, a fireplug of a man who had spent just 45 days at home during a three-year stint in Africa. "Africans are hungry for our help. They have so little. Most of the time, they don't even have ammo to shoot. We bring it."

guy's a regular comedian, eh? africans hungry for our help... they have so little... not even ammo to shoot

the article itself then gets a little silly after pointing out that using proxy forces didn't work out so well in somalia, when it uses the phrase "a deadly Islamist insurgency" to describe the successes on the ground in forcing out the deadly occupation by both the ethiopian forces and the warlord TFG regime barely standing in mogadishu & baidoa. or the rationale that the proxy war has backfired b/c it is "damaging counterterrorism efforts" in somalia. there was no need for any legitimate CT operation in somalia prior to the 2006 invasion. most objective analysts & observers now acknowledge that the ICU did not pose a real threat outside of some irredentist ideas toward the ogaden region of ethiopia, which is full of somalis anyway, and recognize the u.s. exaggerations of AQ 'affiliations' & threats for what they were - lies

but ignore that stuff - it's typical western propaganda & it's all over the place right now, ranging from the hypocrisy of russ feingold to the keystroke output of nearly every wire service and not why i'm posting this

all that talk doesn't discourage the cold-warrior fireplug featured in the article

Ignacio took a long view of U.S. involvement in Africa.

"We're back in Cold War mode," he said, recalling how he trained Honduran forces during Ronald Reagan's shadow conflicts with the Soviets in Central America. "When will we be done here? Not for a long time."

this is exactly what i was warning about nearly two years ago, as well as the reference to the militarization of central america

Posted by: b real | Nov 19 2008 4:10 utc | 92

@ b real 92 and 86

It's (sort of) a pleasure, let's say a mitzvah, to note that MOA bar flies are not the only ones to appreciate b real's stalwart efforts to shed light on the backstage maneuvering around the Horn of Africa. The story of Vadim Alpert had already been "put in the public domain", and now the allegation of direct Israeli links to the "pirates" and the hijacking of the Saudi mega-tanker adds further fuel to the fire of "plausible conjecture". One can be sure that if such allegations ever rise to the level of visibility in the mainstream media, it will only be in order to be rejected as "conspiracy theories". However, the very media attention given to these events is in itself prima facie evidence that there is a concerted effort being made along these lines by organizations with the power to shape the daily news agenda of the MSM. Is the Obama presidency the target of such operations (as 9/11 targeted W's), or is Obama already on board, ready to serve as the ideal front man for some "shining African military adventure"? I certainly don't know if any of my conjectures are indeed well founded, but it does seem certain that the arachnids spinning webs of deception remain both assiduous and audacious.

Just to add an unrelated link, Cryptome has some new documentation on the case of USA vs Aaifi Siddidqui .

Posted by: Hannah K. O'Luthon | Nov 19 2008 9:01 utc | 93

Thanks breal, your posts are always excellent -both your info and personal comments.

Posted by: Rick | Nov 19 2008 12:43 utc | 94

``We are moving into an environment where prices are falling across the board,'' David Resler, chief economist at Nomura Securities International Inc. in New York, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. ``That is going to continue. Deflation is spreading across the economy.''

This is the start of the requisite deflation I predicted would occur, leading up to hyper-inflation.

Posted by: Al | Nov 19 2008 16:01 utc | 95

A particularly disturbing comment made by Ron Widdows (chief executive officer of Neptune Orient Lines, South-East Asia’s biggest cargo transport group), reported in the FT:

”The negative conditions we are seeing in the market place are unprecedented in our industry’s history... What we are seeing goes beyond a normal cyclical downturn...[we are expecting] a severe and prolonged downturn in global container shipping that could last over the next few years"

Posted by: Al | Nov 19 2008 16:10 utc | 96

i appreciate the kind words, guy - thanks. the HOA, in particular, and africa, overall, are important areas to understand right now, for a number of reasons, not the least of which its geostrategic importance to the imperialists of the planet.

i also agree w/ mahmood mamdani's observation in this older NYT review of his last book

To understand political Islam, Mr. Mamdani says Africa's experience is instructive. "Africa is seen as exceptional, as not even part of the rest of the world," he said. "But on the contrary, it's an illuminating vantage point."

there was a companion article in tuesday's chicago tribune -- War on terror's hidden front-- that, along w/ a bunch of GWOT spin primarily from the u.s. military POV, restated the essence of hayden's msg (which i pointed out in #24 on the previous page of this thread)

AFRICOM represents a stunning shift in U.S. military doctrine, despite its relatively modest start-up cost of nearly $400 million. It reflects mounting concerns like those outlined just last week by the director of the CIA, Michael Hayden, who warned that North Africa and Somalia are now second only to Pakistan's tribal areas as growing Al Qaeda threats.

hayden was throwing out some big hypotheticals in that speech - yet it gets repeated as if fact

an article in the sudan tribune on monday, w/ a literally-true headline -- US Officials spread fears over advance of Somali Islamists -- reminds readers that

The U.S. Military Academy’s Harmony Project published captured al-Qa’ida internal communications, including from operatives in Somali regions of eastern Africa. Despite this study’s revelations that al-Qa’ida had exceedingly poor operational abilities in Somali areas in the 1990s, many Western officials warn of Somali connections with al-Qa’ida.

Hayden admitted on Thursday that “there clearly has not yet been an official merger” between al-Shabaab and al-Qa’ida. But he went on to speculate that “a merger between al-Shabaab and al-Qa’ida could give Somali extremists much needed funding while al-Qa’ida could then claim to be re-establishing its operations based in East Africa. That’s a base that was severely disrupted about two years ago when Ethiopia moved into Somalia.”

The unusual public remarks from the intelligence chief come as Islamist militias are gaining territory in south-central Somalia.

the reality is that there are those in the u.s. that will go to any means necessary to prevent another islamic govt from popping up on the planet, as they did in december 2006 when they exported a crushing counter-revolutionary force upon a popular uprising sweeping central & southern somalia.

and now that uprising has gained significant momentum again & that's why we're getting the media-disseminated bullshit about AQ spread on so thick

there is no question that the dems will continue (& probably escalate) the imperialist stupidity there

hkol - that yemen times article in the link i posted on israeli ties to the hijackers is helpful in addressing some of the questions you raised earlier, about that country's interests in the region & the dahlak islands. i haven't explored it far enough yet - doesn't seem to be a whole lot of materials on it

Posted by: b real | Nov 19 2008 16:13 utc | 97

lrmagzbfsoepmlcywell, hi admin adn people nice forum indeed. how's life? hope it's introduce branch ;)

Posted by: Obtaistaffeddy | Dec 27 2008 21:11 utc | 98

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