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October 2, 2008
Widening the Afghan War

The NATO commander, U.S. Army General McKiernan, wants more troops in Afghanistan, but the British ambassador there says more troops will just create more problems:

Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles told a senior French diplomat that "American strategy is destined to fail," and he warned that increasing troop levels would serve only to "identify us even more clearly as an occupying force and multiply the number of targets".


"The presence — especially the military presence — of the coalition is part of the problem, not the solution. The foreign forces are ensuring the survival of a regime which would collapse without them. In doing so, they are slowing down and complicating an eventual exit from the crisis (which, moreover, will probably be dramatic)."

The British know what a dramatic exit from Afghanistan looks like.

McKiernan now also wants to fight the Afghan drug mafia under the pretext of ‘force protection’:

“I think there’s a need for increased involvement in I.S.A.F. in assisting the Afghan government in counternarcotics efforts,” said General McKiernan, commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force, or I.S.A.F. “Where we can make a clear intelligence linkage between a narcotics dealer or a facility and the insurgency, I consider that a force protection issue, and we can deal with that in a military way.”

Adding the drug mafia to the enemy roster will intensify the war. How that is supposed to protect the force is beyond me.

There is only one way of real force protection. Leave the Afghans alone.

McKiernan will not get the additional troops he is asking for as long as the U.S. continues to occupy Iraq. Another flawed idea is to double the native Afghan troops. The Afghan state does not have the revenue to pay for them and there is no hope that it will ever have the economic base to keep a big military intact. There are also too few Afghan people who have the basic qualification to lead on the various levels of a military styled after ‘western’ ideas.

I find it frustrating to see how the ‘west’ continues to dig the hole deeper instead of getting out. The Afghanistan adventure will obviously end the same way such have always ended through history. The foreigners will retreat. The question is only when and at what price.

Comments

There is every likelihood that in Iraq there will be a resurgence of violence within the next few months both in Kurdistan and in the Sunni districts where the Awakening Cuncils have until now been paid wergild by the Americans. The consequence will be that it will be judged that there can be no further reduction in troop levels. Meantime, both presidential candidates are supporting calls that in Agfhanistan, there be an increase in numbers – a surge, effectively – of ground forces committed to the war against terrorism there. Necessarily, this will require an increase in military expenditure – on what seem to be unwinnale wars. This at a time when the American taxpayers are expected to lash out $700,000,000,000 on the purchase of bad debts from Wall Street. If in any other country a government attempted such insane levels of money squandering it would surely be declared bankrupt and get taken over by the World Bank and doubtless be confronted by revolution in the streets. I just wonder at why the American people are so docile so ready to acquiesce in the enrichment of the already rich and the impoverishment of the rest of themselves.

Posted by: drongo | Oct 2 2008 12:53 utc | 1

In WW2 the Americans successfully fought against enemies half a globe away – Japan in Asia, Germany and Italy etc in Europe. Since then, planning by the Pentagon is that America should be able to wage two wars simultaneously – originally against the USSR and against China then latterly against uspecified lands. Now it has been engaged in two wars against small third world countries whose populations, industrial production, and GDPs are a minute fraction of its own vast resources. These wars have been in progress since 2002/3, longer than the period between Pearl Harbour and Hiroshima/Nagasaki. And “victory” remains as elusive as ever. And there is a desire to engage in new wars, in Iran, perhaps in Pakistan. “Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad.”

Posted by: drongo | Oct 2 2008 13:07 utc | 2

“I just wonder at why the American people are so docile so ready to acquiesce in the enrichment of the already rich and the impoverishment of the rest of themselves.”
You confuse being “docile” with us amerikans not wanting to be disappeared or otherwise killed by the amerikan government because we stood up for ourselves. Don’t you know that isn’t allowed? You still pretending the USA is a “democracy”?
You don’t recall the coup d’etat on November 22, 1963?

Posted by: James Crow | Oct 2 2008 13:43 utc | 3

James Crow (3)
You’re right. I suspect America (and the uk for that matter) is about as democratic as the democracies established by the US and uk in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: drongo | Oct 2 2008 14:30 utc | 4

“I find it frustrating to see how the ‘west’ continues to dig the hole deeper instead of getting out.”
oh no you do not – what would you have to blog about if the usa was not blundering about in a drunken stupor, f***ing up everything it touches ??
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Posted by: general panzer | Oct 2 2008 15:05 utc | 5

“oh no you do not – what would you have to blog about if the usa was not blundering about in a drunken stupor, f***ing up everything it touches ??”
Wouldn’t need to blog and that would be great. I’m sure that many MoA-ites find a resonance with Richard Neville’s comment about having become a ‘war bore’. That is after the 1st act excitement of bombs and guns and invasion, 2nd act of the Iraqi’s demonstrating the mission was far from accomplished, 3rd act of amerikan created sectarian massacres on the streets of Baghdad most humans turned off, either sated or sickened. For most humans the war doesn’t really exist any more.
Most. For some of us who can be endeavouring to ‘get on with our lives’ laughing in the company of friends when we get overcome by a totally unexpected sense of horror caused by the knowledge that some foul murder/rape/torture has been committed on a group of humans whose crime was they were Iraqi or Afghani, there is little relief.
We have learnt not to ‘go on about it’ most others have moved on, to them we have become ‘war bores’. I rarely read/watch past the intro news of the latest horror, the details are the same anyhow. A group of afghanis or Iraqis were blown up shot set fire to by a gang of amerikan thugs. The amerikan ‘authorities’ aka senior war criminals, deny the event occured, then eventually admit to a tiny fraction of the real casualties calling it a ‘mistake’ if the victims can prove their case eg get a video of the crime being committed on you tube, then an investigation will be launched, maybe some arrests of the junior accomplices to murder. Then after several years when the world has forgotten everyone is released, sometimes with a dishonerable discharge (ie if they didn’t stick to the agreed lie).
Nothing has changed in the 40 years since william calley was pardoned for the murder of hundreds of Vietnamese. The same crime has been repeated over and over around the world.
Since 2003 it has become much more open. At first most humans shared our horror now they have become inured to it.
So we come to MoA or somewhere similar and try to express our disgust at the antics of the empire of greed and murder knowing that others here feel what we feel and won’t try and change the subject to the delights of the new i-phone or how many medals their nation won at the olympics, or ‘isn’t that sarah palin dumb’ or any of the million other distractions from the millions being murdered.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 2 2008 21:08 utc | 6

what would you have to blog about if the usa was not blundering about in a drunken stupor, f***ing up everything it touches ??
We would still have Sarkozy, Berlusconi and some other similar fellows.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Oct 2 2008 21:25 utc | 7

right, clueless.

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 3 2008 19:04 utc | 8

oh no you do not
panzer, this makes no sense. you assert b does not find it frustrating because he wouldn’t have anything to blog about, AS IF all he blogs about is ‘the usa blundering about in a drunken stupor’.
b said ‘the west’ anyway, i’m sure some asshole will take over as the globes biggest asshole once the empire goes down.

Posted by: annie | Oct 3 2008 19:23 utc | 9