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October 13, 2008
The European ‘Saving’ Programs

There are all kinds of programs in various European countries  to ‘save the financial system’.

There seem to be three different points in all of them:

  • Injecting capital into banks that have lost so much that their capital base in now inadequate
  • Guaranteeing interbank credit
  • Regulatory ‘relief’

I get the first point. If done correctly, the banks will be triaged and only those who have a chance to survive and are really in need will be propped up. Their shareholders will be punished.

The second point I do not get at all.

The reason why interbank lending needs to be guaranteed, we are told, is because interbank lending has ceased. The reason for that is distrust between banks. The distrust is understandable as the fall of Lehman Brothers has hit its creditors pretty hard.

But there is a simple thing with credit. If lending is risky a higher risk premium is needed. The borrower will have to pay higher interest rates. That is what the recent rise in LIBOR (London Inter Bank Offer Rate) is expressing. I do not see anything wrong with this. This risk of lending to Lehman was obviously miss-priced. The risk is now high, so are the interest rates, so what? Some point out that the TED spread is high. That is the difference between LIBOR and the interest rates Treasury bonds are paying. But why is it supposed to be bad that the spread is high?

The Fed and other Central Banks are now lending to about every financial entity as much as those want. Why would banks borrow from each other at all if they can borrow much cheaper from the Central Banks?

I can see problems coming up when real economy entities need credit to run their business. If lending to them drys up, some otherwise valid business might shut down. But if that is the risk, why not attack that problem directly and issue credit to those real economy companies who need it?

The third point of ‘regulatory relief’ is outright dangerous. Banks have to mark assets to market prices. Now they will be allowed to mark those assets to whatever they think might be appropriate. Does this increase or decrease the risk of lending to them? It increases the risk as the real value of these banks can not be determined when they mark to model. Just like the immense Fed lending this policy is counterproductive to the aim of reigniting interbank lending.

The markets in Europe are rallying today. I see no reason for this but simple hype of the announced programs that are not even spelled out yet in full. Do future earning expectations  in a likely recession environment really justify higher stock prices?

The German program was announced to be some €500 billion. It is in fact much smaller. But the commentators on various German newspaper sites, even conservative ones, are outraged. The political backlash will be immense. Only one in ten Germans owns stocks. To risk taxpayer money to prop up the markets is therefore very unpopular.

Where by the way is the U.S. plan? An what is it? Good to hear that Sherlock Holmes is now involved in solving that mystery.

Comments

Interesting to see that world markets have risen quite enthusiastically today on the news of the European effort, while the world crashed after the US ‘rescue’plan was launched.
More than symbolism at work here?

Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 13 2008 17:09 utc | 1

Point two and three makes sense if you figure that our dear politicos are also bought by the international finance capital. Socialise risk, privatise profit.

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 13 2008 17:18 utc | 2

Injecting capital into banks that have lost so much that their capital base is now inadequate
almost impossible to make up for that, it is i guess confidence building BS, stardust for the public.
Guaranteeing interbank credit
that is now being done more or less but it amounts to sloshing bad credit around – and banks are still hesitant or hilarious, as they are all pretty much insolvent and know it about themselves and their competitors and don’t judge the State intervention to be consequent enough, in which they are quite correct.
everyone always talks about trust, but that obscures that some investments or deals are solid, worthwhile, and others are not. NOT. Distinguishing between those is a pain in the ass…but has to be done, but the States will not do it…and the banks cannot now do it on their own..
Why would banks borrow from each other at all if they can borrow much cheaper from the Central Banks?
this was a point i made with my low level game analogy. they won’t. they will suck up what is available or offered by /states/ and nothing else will change.
The markets in Europe are rallying today.
the stock market is a secondary affair, it reacts to new landscape very fast, any hint of stability will help. i guess that big selling off was in part to get cash in to pay off other debts…just guessing.. then once some hope for cancelling these or the sell-off is enough, it stops, and the markets rise again.
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Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 13 2008 17:32 utc | 3

The quote below is from the download, here: http://www.mediafire.com/?zwqk3i2mt2y
Conjure Bag Discussion Paper
LIBOR, Interbank Lending and The Banking Crisis
Since August 2007, the spread between the highest and lowest rates contributed by members of
the Contributor Panel has been rising. These spreads are not what we’d expect to see in functioning
markets and suggest that the Contributor Panel is pulling numbers out of thin air. Yves Smith states:
Prior to August 2007, it was unusual if the variation between the highest and lowest
reporting bank was more than 1 or 2 basis points. Now it is regularly above 100 bps. As
we like to say, a number so big no one understands it.
Too much central bank liquidity has destroyed the inter-bank lending market.
[emphasis- Yves Smith] This would be an “inside baseball” issue for the banking system
except Libor is the benchmark for the “real economy” to get a loan. Libor is written into
contracts and we have no good substitute. If Libor is screwed up, then the real economy
pays because it needs Libor to get a loan.
This also means the market’s new favorite idea of having G7 countries guarantee all
inter-bank loans will do nothing.9
I’ve come to the conclusion that the $US BBA LIBOR may now be bogus, as well as any
instrument priced on it. If that conclusion is correct, it means the TED Spread is bogus as well. There is
also an additional, more diabolical, consideration.
Consider the possibility that $US BBA LIBOR and TED Spread might no longer be an expression of
“market jitters,” but a fabrication used to torture central bankers, particularly Bank of England, for more
$US liquidity. Fear can flow both ways, and the London banks may be using BBA LIBOR as a stun gun.
Yves Smith is probably correct when she says central bank liquidity is destroying the London interbank
market. Why borrow in the interbank market when you can borrow from the central bank?
Finally, and obviously it would seem, stay away from BBA LIBOR-priced financial products for the
foreseeable future. In a future discussion paper, I’ll address the ideas discussed here in greater detail
Have a nice day.

Posted by: Sustain26 | Oct 13 2008 17:34 utc | 4

Thanks Sustain26 – that was helpful.
Yep – it may well be a big rape.
Lots of credits in the real world is marked at LIBOR+X variable interest rates.
The Central Banks have done away with interbank lending. LIBOR is no fantasy and of course the banks are now pushing it up.
They can pocket the difference between the cheap central bank money they borrow and the outrages LIBOR+X the lend for.
Quite a racket.

Posted by: b | Oct 13 2008 17:44 utc | 5

We’ll see Wednesday if markets still go up. A true rally should last at least 3 days to be a sign of any upward move, otherwise it’ll be just like in the past month: 1-day up, 2-days down.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Oct 13 2008 17:57 utc | 6

b- great blog. thanks to naked capitlaism for steering me to your site.
regarding: “Where by the way is the U.S. plan? An what is it?” in case you had not seen it, thought i’d show you this:
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2008/10/first-victim-in-economic-crisis-is.html

Posted by: darkcloud | Oct 13 2008 17:59 utc | 7

Roubini:

Today stock markets – and other financial markets – will rally on the news that terrified policy makers peering into the abyss got religion and started to do in a consistent way what is necessary but financial markets will remain volatile with significant downside risks over the next few weeks as:
– details of these plans are still very fuzzy and ambiguous and with uncertain effects on various assets classes (common shares, preferred shares, unsecured debt of financial institutions, etc.);
– macro news will surprise on the downside as the economies sharply weaken and contract while fiscal policy stimulus is lagging;
– earnings news for financial and non financial firms will surprise on the downside;
– the damage done to confidence and to levered investment is already severe and the process of deleveraging of the shadow financial system will continue;
– major sources of future stress in the financial system remain; these include the risk of a CDS market blowout, the collapse of hundreds of hedge funds, …

[T]he current collapse of private aggregate demand makes it fair, necessary and efficient to directly help Main Street with a direct fiscal stimulus program and with a plan to reduce the debt burden of distressed home owners. Those two additional policy actions are necessary and fundamental – together with the rescue and recapitalization of financial institutions – to minimize the damage to the real economy and to the financial system.

Posted by: b | Oct 13 2008 18:01 utc | 8

Gvmts. taking over the banks is the ultimate publically avowed State/Corporate/Civil society partnership. Mussolini must be jerking up in his grave with fluttering fingers in the musty, fetid air, sending shivers of excitement down the spine of the permanent guards (24/24, 365, in the proper black T shirts) around his grave.
Small girls skip and throw flowers…their parents smile and take pictures. And all will be fine, the powerful will protect the small holders… Not.
Youtube, 1 min. Musso’s Crypt. (the goons are not shown.)

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 13 2008 18:09 utc | 9

You are right: interbank lending guarantees should come at a price. All guaranteed loans should include an insurance premium, just like mortgage insurance or deposit insurance. This would encourage bankers to seek cheaper funds from the market. And it would help pay for the risk the government is taking on.

Posted by: JohnH | Oct 13 2008 19:24 utc | 10

Who said Americans have no sence of Irony? Reported words of Krugman, Nobel prize winner for Economic.
“Mr Krugman, 55, is also a columnist for the New York Times. In his Monday column , he endorsed Mr Brown’s £500 billion bail-out plan for the British banking industry, contrasting it favourably with the American Government’s scheme.
Mr Krugman asked: “Has Gordon Brown, the British Prime Minister, saved the world financial system?”
He went on: “Mr Brown and Alistair Darling, the chancellor of the Exchequer … have defined the character of the worldwide rescue effort, with other wealthy nations playing catch-up.”
He praised the British Government for having acted with “stunning speed” to address the financial crisis, again contrasting Mr Brown’s efforts with those of Henry Paulson, the US Treasury Secretary.
“This combination of clarity and decisiveness hasn’t been matched by any other Western government, least of all our own,” he wrote.”

Posted by: Kelso | Oct 13 2008 20:14 utc | 11

Kelso – with respect, the crisis didn’t creep up on Gordon Brown this week. So why didn’t he do anything before we are actually standing with our toes hanging over the edge of the cliff? He took over the financial reins of the UK 10 years ago and could have asked the banks to keep some money available for a rainy day.
If he isn’t responsible for this mess then who is?
See also It’s the FSA that has re-set solvency, not Gordon Brown from Paul Murphy at ft alphaville

Posted by: maff | Oct 13 2008 21:41 utc | 12

Americans are stupid and coarse. Europeans are smart.
I hate america!!!

Posted by: america sux | Oct 13 2008 22:04 utc | 13

Another world is possible…
Economic Policy Conference in Venezuela
The South’s Answers to the World Economic Crisis

Posted by: Alamet | Oct 13 2008 23:48 utc | 14

Alamet 14 – You know, in a perverse kind of way, if you imagine a tiny IMF agent stood on the shoulders of every US bank officer and mortgage broker and said, “we will lend money to your country in the form of adjustable rate mortgages paid directly to your people, and we will look the other way while you game the mortgage and appraisal system for your inflated commissions, and we will deregulate far in advance of your consolidation measure, creating AAA-junk credit default swaps that you denature your currency with,” … that would pretty much sum up the way IMF and their international hit men work.
US R ZIMBABWE.
Now that the loans are hooked in and sunk deep in the belly of America, it’s time for IMF nationalization of resources and austerity measures in the form of deficit bailouts that any responsible economist would be shrieking we cannot ever pay back.
Thus, ironically, America finds itself in the same boat that Africa and South America found themselves before, along with some 100,000,000 other poor indigents being starved, beaten, drought and plagued off their postage stamp of dirt.
But it’s all good! Even if our SSTF is lost, we still have our 3/16th acre bean patch, if we sell off the rambler to whoever can move it, truck in some topsoil, and live in a cabana with a hammock and a smudge fire to keep off the skeeters.
“Billy Bob, that’aire gonna burn yo’r hand if’fen you don’ drop it right quick! Now go pick some beans and tatters, we’re fixin’ to have us some supper directly, yo’r mamma done kilt a squar’l! Watch thet tent pole! Watch thet tent pole!”

Posted by: Chalice Almers | Oct 14 2008 6:35 utc | 15

Kissinger got the peace prize.
One of the extra problems with LIBOR is that the sample size is too small.

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 14 2008 14:34 utc | 16