Coke or Pepsi… Presidential Simulacrum
I wonder if anyone happen to listen to the KPFA pacifica after debate discussions? I am really hoping I can hunt down the commentary afterward’s as they let third party contenders speak. Because, Ralph Nader –Eris love him–, just unloaded on what they, both Obomba and Mcpalin didn’t broach. It was hot and heavy it was good, and then got better and then my jaw dropped. He was hot! In the short 7/10 minutes he spoke I was blown away by his command of issues and articulation and subjects that I was cheering him. He was hot after being ejected from the debates after 1) HAVING A TICKET TO ATTEND, 2) BEING ASKED BY FOX news to be interviewed. HE WAS STILL ESCORTED OUT. (SEE HEAR: ( HERE ) If I can hunt the kpfa rant down it is very worth posting. And I will. Needless to say he had more substance in his short rant than all four debates combined. Which isn’t saying much as they, (the debates) all four seemed to center and the same three four, perhaps five issues drawn out over how many hours? But man, the issues that Nader brought up, post tonights event I hadn’t even had on the front burner of my mind until he jarred me out of my debate trance on this, the third and final debate. One of many that was nothing (like the previous three) but signal noise.
It was like going from underfunded inner city 8th grade jr. high readers digest class room to an interesting 500/Graduate level university symposium on a topic you enjoy. One w/meat and gravy, and biscuit. lol.
Further, the part about the JFK and Dallas comment with regard to the ten debates of 10 Goldwater JFK town hall debates made by mcpalin I seriously suspect was a veiled threat, it was the epitome of aesopian language and concepts. Club code, indeed speaking to the base as mentioned above. Aesopian Language, is communications that conveys an innocent meaning to outsiders but holds a concealed meaning to informed members of a conspiracy or underground movement.
Everything ‘they’, do is methodically, meant to provoke, incite inflame and instigate, intimidate…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 16 2008 14:44 utc | 3

Personal anecdote… take for what it’s worth.
Where I live in the south-eastern US I see almost no support for either candidate. For the past two elections almost every car would have a “W” or a Gore or Kerry bumper sticker, and every other house would have a sign in the yard for their candidate of choice. Now, only a month away from elections, I see maybe one or two bumper stickers a day for either Obama or McCain/Palin. There are probably more signs for Ron Paul than for either of them.
If this is the case in other parts of the country as well, does a third party candidate like Nader actually have a chance this election? Or perhaps Mickey Mouse will win the majority vote this year…

Posted by: Chemmett | Oct 16 2008 15:50 utc | 5

the globe: “sumthinstan”
lol
ok, how many times can i spit my coffee on the keyboard. this is cruel funny.

Posted by: annie | Oct 16 2008 15:59 utc | 7

Hamburger (from the US) or Uncle $cam (from Hamburg),
Your link to us clearly shows that both candidates don’t care whether our troopers live or die. All they care about is making sure that our tax dollars keep flowing to the Blackwaters and Halliburtons of the World!

Posted by: Cynthia | Oct 16 2008 16:21 utc | 9

“Hamburger (from the US) or Uncle $cam (from Hamburg)”
Actually, the other way around.
🙂

Posted by: beq | Oct 16 2008 16:50 utc | 11

In case you missed the debate, here’s a replay.
Amazing how you can’t parody this sh*t. P and B’s dialogue sounds exactly like M and O.

Posted by: catlady | Oct 16 2008 17:33 utc | 13

idiocracy?

Posted by: Lizard | Oct 16 2008 18:02 utc | 15

borev – Oh Jeez Watch McCain Roll His Eyes at Dead Colombians

Posted by: b real | Oct 16 2008 18:23 utc | 17

OMG, I touched a black man!

Posted by: vetinla | Oct 16 2008 19:26 utc | 19

Not nasty not really just fun. (Though it is getting hard to tell satire from the real thing.)
Takes a min to load, then click here or there like in a game
palin as pres

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 16 2008 20:29 utc | 21

& christ i hope the gonnoreah-ridden-golem wolf blitzer will soon go back to his work for the likud – he is such a useful servant of the lobby & of the rnc – though practically he seems as dumb as fuck to me – tho he doesn’t have one of those portentous voices so beloved of the america media. they should have gone the whole hog & used barry white’s voice

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 16 2008 22:13 utc | 23

Small coke
I’m sure you know, “Joe the Plumber” is 1) not a , licensed plumber 2) IS a registered republican , and 3) the grandson-in-law of Charles Keating.
What is it with republicans and plumbers?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 17 2008 0:06 utc | 25

b real,
It has to be satire, doesn’t it? But I bet it isn’t. Freedom to be a slave – oh, life is indeed beautiful!

Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 17 2008 4:46 utc | 27

Hey b real,
Kudos for linking to that BoRev post about McCain shrugging his soul at the thought of dead Colombian leftists.
Eric at BoRev is my hero. He’s always on top of the latest LatAm stuff.
While we’re pinching links found by Mr. Wingerter, we mustn’t pass by the following gem;
La Pequeña Sarah Palin.
It’s wrong for all the right reasons.
BTW, it all happens for me at the 55 second mark.
Cheers.

Posted by: Marek Bage | Oct 17 2008 11:13 utc | 29

paul street: Proto-Fascism in the United States: Campaign Reflections

..the McCain-Palin campaign and the broader GOP assault structure are about more than racism. Their racism is part of a larger ideological position that I will clumsily call pseudo-populist messianic-militarist white-nationalist neo-McCarthyite hyper-masculinist proto-fascism. Let’s just label it proto-fascism for short.
This proto-fascism is evident in the following terrible tendencies and characteristics:
* Regular false conflation of centrist business and imperial liberalism with “extreme leftism.” This seen in the repeated absurd charge that the corporate- and military-friendly Obama is some kind of “hard left” “radical.” The same “charge” (I use quote marks because I like hard left radicals and happen to be one myself) has also long been leveled at Hillary Clinton and other center-neoliberal Democrats by proto-fascist Republicans).
* A militarized hyper-nationalism that glorifies imperial war and insists on martial victory and unquestioning loyalty to “Country First.” According to McCain, the Iraq “war” (really a one-sided imperial occupation perpetrated by the most powerful military state ever on a poor and defenseless nation) must be “won,” meaning that all meaningful resistance to the illegal invasion (understandably hated by the great majority of Iraqis for many years) must be crushed once and for all.
* The preposterous inflation of supposed threats to the Virtuous Nation and established order posed by purported left radicals (absurdly conflated with liberals and centrists) in the “God-blessed” “homeland.” The Republican machine’s obsession with Obama’s connection (quite mild) to William Ayers – a youthful ultra-leftist turned middle-aged education professor and charter-school advocate – is an almost laughable case in point.
* Dissemination of the classic fascist narrative claiming that the Noble Nation of Exceptional Greatness has seen its intrinsically righteous military crusades “stabbed in the back” by dastardly, “defeatist,” “cowardly,” and insufficiently “patriotic” liberals, radicals, and minorities. This was young Hitler’s lovely narrative on Glorious Germany’s defeat in World War I (see Mein Kampf). It is also the supposed “war hero” McCain’s narrative on what went wrong in (the U.S. Empire’s vicious assault on) Vietnam (1961-1975) and on what could go wrong in (the same Empire’s current vicious assault on) Iraq if Americans let supposed “leftists” like Obama into the White House.
* A dangerous disrespect for civilized norms and international law reflecting a determination to rule the world by sheer force, including torture, colonial occupation, and repeated assaults on nameless foreign civilians. (Proto-fascists call dissent from such practices “anti-Americanism”).
* An exaggerated and self-fulfilling sense of the world as “a dangerous place,” with evil, typically non-white others waiting behind every corner to senselessly attack inherently good and benevolent America, whose homeland subjects are strongly encouraged to cower under the umbrella of the Big Brother National Security State.
* A toxic anti-intellectualism that proclaims peoples’ right to be deeply ignorant and obtuse and identifies as a sneering “elitist” anyone who dares to mention numerous basic troubling facts about U.S. society, history, and policy.
* The preposterous blaming of racial and ethnic minorities for problems created by wealthy elites at the top of the power structure.

i disagree w/ the “proto” part, but otherwise…

Posted by: b real | Oct 17 2008 14:49 utc | 31

Come on, change the subject. Get a new thread going. This one’s f**king dead for Christ’s sake. Who gives a s**t what most of these a**holes think anyway

Posted by: emma | Oct 17 2008 16:28 utc | 33

“emma” #34, there are several other threads now. Who/what are you trying to unravel? And s**ts are not given so much as received.

Posted by: plushtown | Oct 17 2008 16:37 utc | 35