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August 29, 2008
Who Is Palin?
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woman, young, clever, a little bit exotic. good candidate!
Posted by: timid | Aug 29 2008 15:49 utc | 1
Well, he’s a founding member of Monty Python. Obvious choice for VP, when you look at it. “Always look on the bright side of life” and all that…
Posted by: Tantalus | Aug 29 2008 15:55 utc | 2
pls read
“http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/the_vp_case_for_gov_sarah_pali.html” is an article of June 4!
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 29 2008 15:58 utc | 3
This just occurred to me:
McCain / Palin
a Has-Been and a Hasn’t-Been
Pass it on …
Posted by: Hamburger | Aug 29 2008 15:59 utc | 4
and Palin will be the best confronting Putin for Alaska!!
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 29 2008 16:07 utc | 5
Hamburger , lol!
who is she? i had never heard of her until a 1/2 hr ago. red meat. image. rove. aside from that she’s just a regular back stabbing fundie oil groupie gop operative as far as i can tell. but she’s pretty.
what i find particularly odd is the choice of someone who’s own state legislators have opened an investigation about a firing that could have been a personal vendetta.
is this investigation going to disappear or take place during the election cycle? weird. they must think they are impervious.
Posted by: annie | Aug 29 2008 16:12 utc | 7
She’s a certified christer nut, was part time mayor of a small Alaska town two years ago, wants to teach creationism alongside evolution science. Kos has the gory details.
Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Aug 29 2008 16:14 utc | 8
So they’re going for someone with an interesting back-story – married to a Native American, Downs child, etc – to counter Obama. And she’s a woman. On the face of it – Wikipedia, admittedly – she seems like a bit of a mess. But impeccable creds: NRA, Fundie and so on and so on.
Annie, it sort of smells as if they’ve given up – or, as you say, they know they’ve won.
Posted by: Tantalus | Aug 29 2008 16:33 utc | 9
The key reason is pretty obvious: “If McCain dies, she’ll be the first woman to be President of the USA”. That’s hysterically cyncial from the GOP; I wonder how well this goes with McCain himself, but it can be slightly effective at hijacking a small share of the female vote on election day.
Posted by: CluelessJoe | Aug 29 2008 16:36 utc | 10
So Hillary will be working that much harder to get Obama elected?
Posted by: beq | Aug 29 2008 17:06 utc | 11
i’m pretty mystified over this selection. thanks annie for the link. maybe they do think they’re impervious. how deep does this rabbit hole go? she’ll certainly keep the vultures, i mean pundits, busy.
Posted by: Lizard | Aug 29 2008 17:10 utc | 12
A curveball designed to steal media attention from Obama?
Posted by: EGrise | Aug 29 2008 17:13 utc | 13
hi there,
some info on Palin, courtesy of Open Left
“Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) — TransCanada Corp., the nation’s largest pipeline company, won approval from Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to build a $27 billion pipeline to carry natural gas from the Arctic to U.S. markets.
Palin on Aug. 27 signed a bill authorizing the state to award Calgary-based TransCanada a license to build the 1,715- mile (2,744-kilometer) link from Prudhoe Bay to the Alberta Hub in Canada, according to a statement. The license will be granted in 90 days.”
it appears the company in question is a sub of EXXON?(have i understood that right?)
anyways she is miss drill drill drill, abstinence only creationist. 100% bush support, rabbit wingnut.
this election is officially a farce, barkeep vodka please
Posted by: sabine | Aug 29 2008 17:36 utc | 15
Biden will eat her alive in the VP debates, so at least she’ll be entertaining.
Posted by: EGrise | Aug 29 2008 17:41 utc | 16
Desperate times call for desperate measures. And should McCain kick off before the end of his term, Palin will be there only as a figurehead, leave the excercise of power where the Republicans really want it: in a secret bunker somewhere in Wyoming…
Posted by: ralphieboy | Aug 29 2008 17:45 utc | 17
And for that matter, who is Michael Lee White?
http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/29636
(sorry for the OT)
Posted by: EGrise | Aug 29 2008 17:48 utc | 18
@sabine “Palin on Aug. 27 signed a bill authorizing the state to award Calgary-based TransCanada a license to build the 1,715- mile (2,744-kilometer) link from Prudhoe Bay to the Alberta Hub in Canada, according to a statement. The license will be granted in 90 days.””
it appears the company in question is a sub of EXXON?(have i understood that right?)
anyways she is miss drill drill drill,
Yes, here is what I wrote four days ago 😉
McCain Announces VP Choice
Remarks of Senator McCain — as prepared for delivery
Dear friends,
for months, I’ve searched for a leader to finish this journey alongside me, and to join me in making Washington work for the American people. I searched for a leader who understands the rising costs confronting working people, and who will always put dreams first.
…
Today, I have come back to Ohio to tell you that I’ve found that leader. A person with a distinguished record and a fundamental decency. A person born in your state – Exxon Mobile.
it is a loopy choice, it is indeed a really loopy world
it is difficult to believe such madness but day by day – this madness weaves from tragedy to farce
Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 29 2008 18:33 utc | 20
I say it grudgingly but Sarah Palin is a potential force. Very smart and she is very “made for media”. Also, theres no doubt she will be a very quick study. Besides the allegations regarding the dismissal of her ex brother-in-law, she is an excellent fit for the task as far as anti-choice creationist types go. She is the most popular governor in the country and its not too hard to see why..
And when she debates Joe Biden, he’s going to have all the pressure on him and contrary to what a lot of people think today, she will hold her own or she might even come out better in the debates. She is very concise and unlike Biden, she never overshoots her delivery.
Posted by: jony_b_cool | Aug 29 2008 18:34 utc | 21
Very clever, much better than Obama’s choice, tactically. (I know nothing about her except what I have read in this thread.)
Posted by: Tangerine | Aug 29 2008 19:16 utc | 23
McCain’s own dirt should surely trump anything Palin could have done during her brief public service.
why haven’t we heard more about McCain’s Keating 5 scandal or the wet start that caused the death of 168 people?
when and to what degree will Obama use these incidents to thoroughly destroy McCain’s straight-talk bs?
Posted by: Lizard | Aug 29 2008 19:17 utc | 24
Any pollster will tell you people don’t vote for the VP candidate. Even their ability to help carry their own state is negligible. This is just a tactical attempt to deflect some attention from the Obama coronation.
Who is Palin? Who cares …
Posted by: d | Aug 29 2008 19:27 utc | 25
Not just tactics: this woman is gonna be putting the abortion issue into everybody’s face without even having to mention it in so many words. In fact, the less she says and does, the better: she just has to stand there next to McCain, which is really all they hired her to do.
Posted by: ralphieboy | Aug 29 2008 19:55 utc | 26
Obama is a vapid faker, a narcissistic wannabee, or worse. McC is a crook, a dynasty type figure head, and probably senile. Biden is a political hack. Don’t know about the P. person.
I guess these higher posts don’t attract solid candidates any more. Bill Clinton, still, was a little better. (Not that I was or am a fan..)
In a corp, or big state organism, if the candidates for the job are as weak as these, it is committee time. The job has to be cancelled, there is no point in judging a roster of candidates who can’t do the job, and that’s not the fault of those in the pool of the unemployed, or those who are on their cellphones all day, co-dependent w. their head hunter.
The job has to be redefined.
After Bush, though, what can one expect? Bush was at about the level of a spiteful, sadistic, turbulent, incoherent, Mickey Mouse. No, I take it back, Mickey Mouse is one of the more sympathetic Disney characters, and he can talk intelligibly.
Bread and circuses… propped up figureheads, adulated and pampered, controlled. Moving wax figures, with holy light coming from above…or posturing in uniform..argh I have to stop.
Yes is has to be noted, ppl vote for Bush, for Sarkozy, for Merkel, and soon for McC (Obama will lose) – what a total farce, a sick joke, a travesty. The pits of despair blithely ignored in the merry-go-round of consumerism; politically correct, thus muted, fear and hate.
Posted by: Tangerine | Aug 29 2008 20:47 utc | 28
a woman who can make men speechless, which is good for McCain as he ran out of words a long time ago.
Posted by: mimi | Aug 30 2008 1:29 utc | 30
chris floyd has the best title i’ve seen all day
Lady and the Gramp: The Sinister Diversion of the Palin Selection
John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin seems to have thrown the media-political-blogospherical establishments into a tizzy.
…
But I must say that I strongly disagree with the argument that Sarah Palin is not qualified to be president of the United States. Such a stance betrays a lamentable misperception of the true function of the office in these modern times. It also ignores the craven nature of our political and media establishments, which has been on such brazen display for lo these many years.
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It doesn’t matter what kind of poltroon parks his or her butt in the Oval Office, or how they get in there; they will be presented to the people as a figure of moral authority and gravitas — and be accepted as such by large swathes of the public. How can anyone have lived through the presidency of an utter non-entity like George W. Bush — not to mention the presidencies of the fourth-rate aristo George H.W. Bush or the literally brain-corroded Ronald Reagan — and not know this? As Shakespeare told us long ago in King Lear: “Behold the great image of authority; a dog’s obeyed in office.”
Posted by: b real | Aug 30 2008 4:10 utc | 31
hahaha… ‘lady and the gramp’ hahaha…
My question is, where the hell do they get all these Stepford women? These Monica Goodling’s, Katherine Harris’s, Lurita Doan’s? A parade of zealots. And how do they get these positions with minimum experience, and questionable educations, and ideological ethics.
Well, at this point, we can’t call them the ‘Bush women’ anymore…lol geez..
Grand Old Prunes?…lmao
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 30 2008 4:39 utc | 32
Okay, that was borderline sexist, and if I could edit it I would, but it’s out there now. I was trying to be funny and do a take on the GOP; guess that’s why I’m not a stand-up comedian…lol
Anyway, it’s true, that these cadre of women from Lynne Cheney to Laura Bush to Nancy M. Pfotenhauer are all of a certain and strict bent. Maybe more so than, well I don’t really know what I’m trying to say here except there seems to be some kind of incongruity with all of them.
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 30 2008 4:51 utc | 33
Youtube: Gov. Sarah Palin on the Wooten scandal and VP
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 30 2008 5:31 utc | 34
Uncle $cam, have you read Andrea Dworkin’s Right Wing Women? An excellent book, published 20 years or so ago.
I haven’t seen it in a long time, but I’m sure it’s as fresh today as it was back then; and if it’s out of print, maybe McCain has prompted its re-printing–turning his lemon into a lemonade (sort of).
Posted by: alabama | Aug 30 2008 7:53 utc | 35
Dworkin – Amazon
Make that 25 years ago (can’t seem to work the link, alas).
Posted by: alabama | Aug 30 2008 8:01 utc | 36
if this is true, it is really really startling.
palin is not the mother but the grandmother.
w/photos.
Posted by: annie | Aug 30 2008 21:06 utc | 38
Umm…yes, startling and actually shocking – not only the hypocrisy, dishonesty, and selfishness of Sarah Palin, but the vetting process. So what if it was rushed and conducted by insiders…if this is true and they missed it, that suggests that there was actually NO process at all. And of course, also that she lied to them when they (presumably) at least asked the most basic of all vetting questions, “What skeletons do you have in your closet that might embarrass the ticket if they came out?”
When will we see more coverage of this, I wonder?
Posted by: Maxcrat | Aug 30 2008 23:18 utc | 39
Anyone know why annies link can not be found on KOS mainpage?
Posted by: anna missed | Aug 30 2008 23:23 utc | 40
it was at the top of the rec list for awhile this afternoon. i watched it rise from about 4 down on the list. it went from 300 comments when i first opened it to 600 in about 5 minutes.
hmm
Posted by: annie | Aug 30 2008 23:35 utc | 41
annie – probably – but I wish people would let these things sleep – it really is none of our business.
Posted by: DM | Aug 30 2008 23:38 utc | 42
You’ll forgive me:
http://i33.tinypic.com/f9lhy0.jpg
Posted by: The Key | Aug 30 2008 23:50 utc | 43
hahaha… thanks for the laugh. THE key…
Why it’s Capt’n Ahab,… and his other leg…lol
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 30 2008 23:54 utc | 44
DM: I can’t let it go for two reasons. Sarah Palin has voluntarily given up the privacy of a private citizen and put herself in a position of national focus, seeking high level office in our nation with all of its presumed/hoped-for standards of basic honesty and character. Go ahead and laugh, but one of the reasons we have had moments like “I didn’t inhale” or Obama’s confessions of various indiscretions in his books is because it is essential to be honest about one’s…whatever – imperfections, shortcomings, or just one’s basic realities. And on a more bareknuckled political level it is essential because sooner or later any negative stuff in your background will come out, and if you have been less than honest, you are screwed. And not just you, but often times your whole agenda of policy initiatives, legislatiion, what have you…it can all be upended once the sleazoids get their hands on any juicy tidbit you are covering up. I have seen it happen up close. Far better to be absolutely candid from the get-go and trust that most of the public will forgive and forget (they usually will.)
Reason two why this matters, if it is shown to be true: Who the hell made this decision? This has already been brought up earlier in the thread more generally, but if this story proves true, then both McCain and his closest advisors are scarier than we already think they are, just for some new reasons.
Posted by: Maxcrat | Aug 31 2008 0:03 utc | 45
The above doesn’t shock me, nor this, Woman Knocked to the Ground & Kidnapped by Gestapo Storm Troopers at the DNC nor this Gestapo Storm Troopers Slam 15 Year-Old Girls to the Ground & Handcuff Them at the DNC or arrests for thought crime such as this COINTELPRO lives.…
But hey, THE DEMS HAVE MADE HISTORY, AND NOW THEY WILL COMMENCE TO SAVING THE COUNTRY.
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 31 2008 0:09 utc | 46
it really is none of our business.
once someone runs for political office their personal life , to the degree it contradicts their platform is our business.
mcCain never would have chosen her if he hadn’t needed to shore up his fundie base. the damage a person like her could do to our supreme court is immense. the damage to the health of women, the impact to lives of young girls, or any woman for that matter not wanting to carry a child to full term, is immense.
there is nothing wrong with becoming the mother of your daughter’s child. women have done it thruout history. but when you run on a platform that seeks to prevent childhood sex education, keeps contraceptives out of the hands of children and then HIDES the effects of these policies when they occur in your own family while touting your family value’s credo, you better believe it is my business.
had she been representing a party that does not make the same kind of stink about abortion, had she been nominated for her foreign policy experience or some qualification other than her christian ethics, then i think you would be right DM.
here are the facts we know, she announced her pregnancy very late, and had her child a month early. she got on an airplane once she knew she was going to deliver, which in itself can be very dangerous. she either exercised extremely poor judgement under pressure, or is not being forthcoming about her own family being a poster case of the effects of poor education and a lack of birth control.
she’s fair game.
Posted by: annie | Aug 31 2008 0:11 utc | 47
thanks, The Key.
your picture actually got me thinking.
i don’t think the GOP is that sloppy to NOT know something this juicy. so if they do know, and they picked her anyway, what could they be thinking?
the embarrassed mother covering for her knocked-up daughter actually was a story-line from desperate housewives, so, if you think, like i do, that tv is one big psy-op, this story has been fictionally framed for tv-watchers, potentially laying the brainwashing groundwork for the masses to identify and sympathize with the real-life plight of poor Sarah because it’s familiar.
in any case, the RNC should have lots of side-splitting hilarity next week. as uncle indicated in the OT thread, journalists are already being arrested; a domestic preemptive attack before the fun ensues.
gee, thought they only did that in china.
Posted by: Lizard | Aug 31 2008 0:25 utc | 48
Nor this…
Interesting Use of “Code Violations” to harass private Citizens…
Save us obomba!
But since they dems are quite about all these things, and have been complicit for years, and will continue to be, perhaps one should reacquaint themselves with where we are STILL headed: rare Nazi TV footage, , complete with everything from bizarre cabaret acts to interviews with people like Albert Speer.
Pop culture done by Nazis, and the banality of showbiz evil.
But you know, a black man will save us!
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 31 2008 0:31 utc | 49
should have added, “perhaps those stinking hippy protesters should be reeducated to sing and play a different tune…” via reference to my third link above.
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 31 2008 0:46 utc | 50
Yeah, yeah, I get the point of “voluntarily given up the privacy of a private citizen”, and the “fair game” line, but I just wonder … who could stand this sort of scrutiny? Is there really anyone who has lived their life without a few skeletons in the cupboard? I actually think we would be better with politicians who said “bugger off” rather than “I didn’t inhale”. This sort of intense media “scrutiny” of private lives has, so far, failed to prevent some of the most vile, unscrupulous characters from attaining high office. It has perhaps dissuaded a few good people from trying. Should we not be able to debate Mrs. Palin without the argumentum ad hominem?
Posted by: DM | Aug 31 2008 2:52 utc | 51
who could stand this sort of scrutiny? Is there really anyone who has lived their life without a few skeletons in the cupboard?
there are skeletons and then there are skeletons. once you cross the hypocrisy line you are fair game. for example, i would have no problem w/larry craig being a closet gay if he weren’t voting to restrict giving them the same rights i have. the kinds of policies she promotes creates the kind of circumstance her family found itself in (if it is true, big if). these circumstances will occur over and over again if roe vs wade is extinguished. so what’s a society to do? lots of families will be raising their teenage children’s children. should they all do it undercover?
she should have no problem standing up and doing what in her mind is the commendable thing. is there shame in what she did or not? i do not begrudge her for raising a grandchild. does she begrudge herself or her daughter? nothing she did was wrong, so why hide it? it is time for the rightwing fundies to take a good long look at the results of these policies and own them. unless we want a society cloaked in silence and shame.
Should we not be able to debate Mrs. Palin without the argumentum ad hominem?
what ad hominem? i’m not attacking her for raising her grandchild. but i would have no problem attacking her pushing thru what i consider anti woman policies, and i would use her families predicament as an example why. correct me if i am wrong but i don’t believe that is an ad hominem attack.
Posted by: annie | Aug 31 2008 4:23 utc | 52
one poster says it rather well…
So, true or not, like it or hate it, welcome to the world of people wanting to know what you are doing with your own body Sarah Palin.
You dont like this diary? Then stop telling other women what to FUCKING DO WITH THEIR OWN BODIES.
Posted by: annie | Aug 31 2008 4:27 utc | 53