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August 6, 2008
Unity of Command in Afghanistan

General McCaffrey is a war criminal and pentagon propagandist. He was recently in Afghanistan where he met about zero Afghans but lots of military folks. He wrote a report (pdf) about his short trip.

Besides a lot of partisan fluff it includes some insight into the situation as McCaffrey learned them during various working lunches and dinneres:

Afghanistan is in misery. […] The Afghan government at provincial and district level is largely dysfunctional and corrupt. The security situation (2.8 million refugees); the economy (unemployment 40% and rising, extreme poverty 41%, acute food shortages, inflation 12% and rising, agriculture broken); the giant heroin/opium criminal enterprise ($4 billion and 800 metric tons of heroin); and Afghan governance are all likely to get worse in the coming 24 months.

Note the missing stats of the number of bombs dropped by the ‘allies’.

McCaffrey also remarks on an issue I mentioned in my piece about Haji Habibullah Jan – the critical lack of ‘Unity of Command’ in Afghanistan:

There is no unity of command in Afghanistan. A sensible coordination of all political and military elements of the
Afghan theater of operations does not exist. There is no single military headquarters tactically commanding all
US forces. All NATO military forces do not fully respond to the NATO ISAF Commander because of extensive
national operational restrictions and caveats. In theory, NATO ISAF Forces respond to the (US) SACEUR…but
US Forces in ISAF (half the total ISAF forces are US) respond to the US CENTCOM commander. However, US
Special Operations Forces respond to US SOCOM…..not (US) SACEUR or US CENTCOM.
There is no
accepted Combined NATO-Afghan military headquarters. There is no clear political governance relationship
organizing the government of Afghanistan, the United Nations and its many Agencies, NATO and its political and
military presence, the 26 Afghan deployed allied nations, the hundreds of NGO’s, and private entities and
contractors. There is little formal dialog between the government and military of Pakistan and Afghanistan,
except that cobbled together by the US Forces in Regional Command East along the Pakistan frontier.

Such an alphabet soup of command acronyms will never be able to do anything but seed more chaos.

There is no common policy on Afghanistan among the ‘allies’. There is no one in lead, no single political concept or development strategy. While accusing its allies over ‘caveats’,  the U.S. has the biggest military caveats over its troop. It will not subordinate them to a unified NATO command.

The other NATO countries will not subordinate their troops to U.S. command. Their voters do not like the U.S. ‘style’ of bomb, bomb, bomb counter-insurgency and do not want to get involved into the civil war between Pashtuns and Northern Alliance (Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks and Turkmen) warlords or a big clash with Pakistan.

The solution in Afghanistan is not more troops and more partners but less. Ruling in Afghanistan has always been decentralized. In 2002 the occupation powers installed a centralized system under their chosen mayor of Kabul, Hamid Karzai. That immediately led to cronyism and big scale corruption.

McCaffrey and others now call for more Afghan troops to stand up. But how will Afghanistan ever be able to pay 200,000 soldiers plus 200,000 policemen? Unlike Iraq it does not have the economy to support so many security forces.

The Taliban destroyed a lot of the traditional tribal structures and their administrative, political and security functions. But the remains of these could probably be revived and integrated into something that resembles the traditional federal Afghan state. To do so would require ‘the west’ to admit lots of errors, change its ‘we know’ attitude and to dissemble the warlord hierarchies in Kabul.

That is unlikely to happen. Much more likely is a further descent into chaos and in the end a soviet like retreat of ‘western’ forces and another civil war in Afghanistan after which some authoritarian victor takes over the mess.

Comments

Stick to a country you actually know something about:
http://www.t-g.com/story/1449487.html
Read the comments. That will tell you everything you
need to know about Afghanistan, why US:UN is there.
There, because the NeoZi.con’s ’rounded the square’.
Right now the Afghans desperately need the Kandahar-
Kabul Highway reopened, and bombed bridges rebuilt.
Right now there’s a wheat shortage and drug epidemic.
Where is US:UN? Issuing contracts for HVAC units in
the militia barracks, so they don’t have to sweat it.
Issuing contracts for a 30MW power plant to serve
the newer, bigger Guantanamo prison at Bagram AFB,
so they can sweat the so-called ‘Queda terrorists’.
I’ll clue you in. ‘USAID decides what is good for
Afghanistan, not the other way around’, and I got
that right from the horse’s mouth at US CENT COM.
US:UN is in Afghanistan because they get PAID to.
And don’t hope for a Soviet endgame, that’s absurd.
The Soviets had no Full Spectrum Domination tech.
US:UN will be there as long as there’s a GWOT play.
Hey, get a ribbon, win a promotion and a pension!

Posted by: Stick 2It | Aug 6 2008 6:24 utc | 1

those are some sobering comments. makes ya real proud to be an American….thas fo sure!

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 6 2008 9:30 utc | 2

The best result that the West can hope for from Afghanistan is to help it become a place (“nation” is too optimistic a word for it) that it is no longer a recruiting/training ground for terrorism.
They have succeeded to an extent, but for that, they have just moved parts of the problem over the border into Pakistan…

Posted by: ralphieboy | Aug 6 2008 10:11 utc | 3

I don’t find anything extraordinary in all this. In the same way we destroy fetuses we destroy nations. Or can the mind think that an evil in one aspect is not evil because I opine so and an evil in another aspect be evil because someone else else opines so. I am full of fury this morning when I read in the Guardian that now the Rwanda government finally will accuse Mitterrand and the French in general of the crimes commited there and in Burundi fifteen years ago. And those Frenchmen were socialists, you can’t accuse them of being fundies or xristians. Thanks to “western” propaganda those crimes are erased from our minds, the same propaganda that censors so many other crimes.

Posted by: jlcg | Aug 6 2008 12:19 utc | 4

@3,
I hear you. But lets not get too carried away with the training-ground recruitment theme. The best training ground & recruitment-center for criminals is the prison. And we’re not going to end crime just by invading the prison system.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Aug 6 2008 12:33 utc | 5

recruiting/training ground for terrorism
If I remember this correctly, ALL 9/11 pilots were trained in U.S. flight schools.
Time to invade Florida …

Posted by: b | Aug 6 2008 13:11 utc | 6

in the end a soviet like retreat of ‘western’ forces
There are no state-patrons supporting the disparate insurgencies. Also, NATO is in this for the long haul.
This is a good entry, b. I’m gonna bookmark it, for future ref.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 6 2008 15:53 utc | 7

Apoologies. #1 here got it right. No use repeating the truth.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 6 2008 15:54 utc | 8

There were no state-patrons supporting the disparate insurgencies in 1879 either. The British Empire, the world’s greatest empire of all time, the empire upon which the sun never set, still got their butts handed to them by the Afghans.
The fact of the matter is that it is horribly expensive and difficult to maintain troops in such a hostile and forbidding place. And the U.S. “full spectrum dominance” has trouble operating in the altitude and climate there too. In one case I read about, a recon team came under attack by Taliban elements, and issued a call for assistance and extraction from the rapid response team. But the gunships couldn’t make it up to the altitude they were at. The troop choppers had to let off half the rapid response team at a nearby village to make it up there. When the first troop chopper arrived on the scene, it was immediately shot down by the Taliban. The end result was that a rescue operation ended up being a body recovery operation. There is your American “full spectrum dominance”.
In the end, we had no business trying to build an Afghan state in the first place. Our goal in Afghanistan should have been to catch Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda freaks, the guys who attacked us on 9/11 remember, and then leave. That’s our only strategic interest in Afghanistan. Otherwise the place is an armpit, and all we do by staying there is breed enemies. The Taliban never attacked us and as a native Pashtun nationalist movement never will, we have no national interests involved fighting them, and I am still appalled that anybody thinks we have any business dealing with the Taliban in any way other than to make them a deal, “you give us bin Laden and his Arabs, we leave your country.” Which is what they want, in the end — us to leave their country. No more, no less. And bin Laden and his Arabs, remember, are the folks who attacked us on 9/11/2001 — *not* the Taliban.
– Badtux the Geopolitics Penguin

Posted by: Badtux | Aug 6 2008 16:05 utc | 9

“you give us bin Laden and his Arabs, we leave your country.
That was asked in 2001, and the Taliban said “No.”

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 6 2008 16:16 utc | 10

We weren’t *in* their country in 2001. Occupying large portions of their country gives them a bit more motivation to get us out, since we’re wrecking the place even worse than the Soviets did. I have a suspicion that the Taliban would be a bit more open to negotiation now than they were in November 2001. Having a marauding army trashing the place tends to do that to a people…

Posted by: Badtux | Aug 6 2008 16:21 utc | 11

There are no state-patrons supporting the disparate insurgencies.
Funny. That must be the reason why Afghanistan, India and the U.S. permanently accuse Pakistan of supporting the Taliban (which is in Pakistan’s national interest.)
Also, NATO is in this for the long haul.
The Soviets were in for the long haul too 9 years 3 month.
That was asked in 2001, and the Taliban said “No.”
The Taliban asked for evidence against Bin Laden. None was offered so they stuck with their tradition and declined to simply hand over a guest.

Posted by: b | Aug 6 2008 16:37 utc | 12

what is clearly spectacular in both afghanistan & iraq – is that for all their talk of ‘full spectrum dominance – us forces are completely & utterly incompetent
what they are capable of tho is terror – whether it is indisriminate & disproportionate bombing, the calculated massacre of innocents, the targeted assassinations, their crumbling alliances with this or that sect – it is an incompetence at such a level that it is dazzlingly disastrous
if these illegal & immoral wars were to prove to the world the exercise of american power – they have done the opposite

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 6 2008 17:59 utc | 13

The comments RE #1 are a textbook example of how the (poor white trash) people in the U.S. are convinced to vote against their own best interests. And the underlying (exenophobic) reasons why Obama’s numbers have not moved against McCain.

Posted by: anna missed | Aug 6 2008 19:30 utc | 14

Actually, the US military routinely denies that Pakistan supports insurgents.
No doubt there is ISI support of Taliban. But the linkages are complex.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 6 2008 20:02 utc | 15

slothrop
this is yet another instance where you source – either a neocon – or someone from one of the multitude of crazy conservative think tanks
i do not know why you have to swim in the sewers to get your sources – is it habitual on your part, innocent or simple cruelty
tho rubin is described as an ‘expert’ , he is about as much of an ‘expe’rt as thomas friedman

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 6 2008 20:48 utc | 16

talk of ‘full spectrum dominance’ – us imperialism in all its glory is not even capable of basic policing that you might find in montana
the fall of empires is less like tragedy, it is more like burlesque – of a decidedly low brow kind

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 6 2008 21:28 utc | 17

True, I didn’t link to a definitive source like Counterpunch or or a jew-conspiracy blog.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 6 2008 22:49 utc | 18

Rubin is a former concierge to uncle ho and took official minutes of pashtun loya jirga assembled after the defeat of the soviet union. He’s a karate champion who donated his left lung to andreas baader. He made love to pepe escobar in tora bora during a stay in a guest tent at bin laden’s camp. He completes the sunday times crossword writing answers in his own tears. He prefers you not pollute his work by reading it.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 6 2008 22:59 utc | 19

i regard counterpunch as a reliable source & it is an infamy for you to suggest anti semitism on my part – but i’m getting used to your infamy in this & other regards because simply you do not answer the question – why have you on many, many occassion sourced either neoconservatives as if they were the holders of some kind of truth
it is why i have accused you for some time of just putting a left gloss on what essentially are the talking points of the most infamous administration in the history of the u s empire

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 7 2008 2:34 utc | 20

No, you’re a lovely semite. I’m referring to the bottom-feeding crap offered in this thread as proof of who knows what.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 7 2008 2:49 utc | 21

it becomes ever more obvious that slothrop is only a troll. the NYT article on trolls mentioned in another thread speaks of sick little bastards who feel justified in offending and hurting because something bad happened to them long ago.
damn shame they can’t break the cycle.

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 7 2008 7:28 utc | 22

re. 10. The US/NATO occupying Afghanistan has absolutely nothing to do with Bin Laden, except for the fact that Bush demanded him turned over as a ‘casus belli’ for the US public.
The Taliban said they’d offer up Binny if the US could present evidence of his guilt re. 9/11. The US did not furnish anything and George Bush refused the offer. Bush said “we know he is guilty” and refused to negotiate. It is said the Taliban offered to have Binny tried in Pakistan, but that Pakistan refused. These facts are accepted, and can be read on wiki, which is a compendium of mainstream sources.
To this day, Binny is not wanted by the FBI for 9/11; he has not been indicted by any US body (e.g. Grand Jury, criminal court) for it.
global security org
wiki

Posted by: Tangerine | Aug 7 2008 8:09 utc | 23

I’ve banded the troll and deleted some of his last missives.
In one of them he tried to come up with an argument that the U.S. had a right to demand Osama form the Taliban after 9/11 because Osama was accused of the 1998 Kenya bombing.
For very good reasons accusing someone in a foreign country of something does not give a right to extract that person or to bomb that country.
Recommended: this story on negotiations in late 2000 early 2001 between Talibs and the U.S. over Osama. Bush blew those …

Posted by: b | Aug 7 2008 18:03 utc | 24

Halfsteps or babysteps:

Under an order expected to be signed by Mr. Gates before the end of August, Gen. David D. McKiernan, the four-star Army officer who leads the 45,000-member NATO force, would be given command of most of the 19,000 American troops who have operated separately. (The NATO force already includes about 15,000 other Americans.)

In the months ahead, NATO and the United States will nevertheless continue to pursue somewhat different missions in Afghanistan, Pentagon officials said, and the new command structure will not result in a merger of the two missions.

Posted by: b | Aug 8 2008 5:37 utc | 25

pr watch: Lincoln Group to Convince Afghans Bombs Are Bad

Source: O’Dwyer’s PR Daily (sub req’d), August 7, 2008
Wondering what the Lincoln Group, the public relations firm that planted U.S. military-written propaganda in Iraqi newspapers, is up to now? It recently won a six month, $14.3 million U.S. Army contract, to promote the Army’s “Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization campaign” in Afghanistan. The campaign is designed to separate the “bomb makers and users from the support of the populace,” and to encourage Afghans to “take responsibility for their communities and report suspicious activities.” The firm will develop “a broad-based information campaign about IEDs using billboards, radio messages, hour-long TV programming, video compact discs, posters, flyers and newspaper ads.” An Afghanistan-based firm, CentenaGroup, received higher marks for its proposal, but Lincoln Group won the contract because it bid in at a lower price.

Posted by: b real | Aug 8 2008 14:21 utc | 26

Thanks b real – the cries out for satire “bombs are bad” – look what comes from above …

Posted by: b | Aug 8 2008 14:29 utc | 27