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August 24, 2008
Open Thread 08-29

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The stuff below was written by Tangerine and spam-trapped in an older thread
reposted by b

Posted by: b | Aug 24 2008 4:46 utc | 1

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Aug. 23 — U.S. military officials said Saturday that they are investigating allegations by Afghan officials that a U.S.-led bombing raid killed at least 70 civilians in western Afghanistan in the past week.
Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, a spokeswoman for the U.S. military, said 30 Taliban insurgents were killed in the operation, which targeted a compound occupied by a local Taliban commander.
“We’re confident that we struck the right compound,” she said.
But Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in a statement that about 70 civilians were killed in the raid. He vowed to take measures to prevent further civilian casualties.
Afghan military officials in Herat said an investigation of the site revealed that about 90 people were killed in the operation. Raouf Ahmedi, a spokesman for the western regional command of the Afghan army in Herat, said Afghan military officials who inspected the site Saturday found the bodies of 60 children and 19 women among the dead.

Here the Coalition of the Willing are murdering two truck drivers talking to a tractor farmer. Good target discrimination!

I see dead people…

Posted by: Chew Bakah | Aug 24 2008 5:03 utc | 2

Israel’s missile shield against Iran: Three Americans in a trailer
By Aluf Benn and Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondents
Tags: U.S., Israel, missile shield
A commander and two operators monitor missile radars in an armored trailer somewhere in Europe. Inside, they use satellite technology to track the origin and trajectory of long-range missiles. In true American fashion, each shift begins with calisthenics, followed by an intelligence briefing.
That is the envisioned routine of the U.S. team that will be responsible for protecting Israel from surface-to-surface missiles launched from Iran or Syria.
Earlier this month the U.S. and Israel agreed on the deployment of a high-powered early-warning missile radar system in the Negev, to be staffed by U.S. military personnel. The station will receive information from the U.S. team in Europe that will aid it in its work.
The deployment of the Joint Tactical Ground Station (JTAGS) system, is widely seen as a kind of parting gift from Washington to Jerusalem as President George W. Bush prepares to leave office.
The system will protect Israel’s skies from missile attacks, but the flip side of the deal is that Israel’s freedom of action against Iran or Syria will be significantly curtailed.
Israel will be required to obtain U.S. permission for any such operation, since it would endanger the lives of the three U.S. defense contractor personnel operating the system. [as though the lives of three contractors are worth a shekel] The ground station itself would likely become the target of any reprisal attack by Iran or Syria.
Senior defense officials view the radar system deployment as a signal of Washington’s opposition to an Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear program.
Sources in Jerusalem said on Saturday that the Negev station would be operated by civilian firms contracted by the Pentagon, along with a small staff of liaison officers. The early warning station is expected to be transferred to Israeli operation at some point in the future.
The officials said the agreement does not stipulate the establishment of a permanent U.S. base in Israeli territory.
They said the warning station would significantly extend the response time to a missile attack and intercept those attacks from a far greater distance than had been previously possible. [70km, but not enough extra time for civil defense evacuation]
Israel’s current missile defense system depends on the identification of a single U.S. satellite, which can spot the missile itself but not its origin or path.
The new system is significantly more accurate than Israel’s “Green Pine” radar system, which supports the Israeli [imitation of the Patriot, the] Arrow anti-missile system.
JTAGS will cost between $20 and $30 million, the U.S. periodical Defense News reported last week.
The system is expected to be set up next year, but it could go on-line earlier, ahead of a large-scale U.S.-Israeli missile defense drill slated for this fall.
Israel asked for a similar system ten years ago, but encountered firm opposition from the Pentagon, which was opposed to divulging U.S. defense secrets.[which now will be divulged, reverse-engineered, and any weaknesses identified and sold to America’s enemies]
Two years ago, U.S. Senator John McCain voiced support for the deal while visiting Israel.
Congressman Mark Kirk of Illinois also joined lobbying efforts for the agreement. Kirk is a former naval officer and is expected to be given a senior position in the Department of Defense if McCain is elected president.
On one of his own visits to Israel, Kirk heard a briefing on the Iran threat, after which he contacted Yoram Ben Ze’ev, then head of the Foreign Ministry’s North America division, about setting up an early warning station in Israel.
Kirk suggested building a U.S. base in Israel which would enjoy extraterritorial status, like U.S. bases in South Korea.
Proponents of the plan in Jerusalem said that sealing the deal would “raise the price” of an Iranian strike on Israel, as such an attack would now be viewed as targeting the United States itself.
On the other hand, critics said the U.S. presence in Israel would tie Israel’s hands in dealing with its adversaries, and subject any attack to prior U.S. approval. [only until Israel took over the Patriot system operation and reverse-engineered it]
Kirk also recruited Congresswoman Jane Harman of California to the cause.
On the eve of President Bush’s May visit to Israel, some 70 members of Congress from both parties signed a petition calling for the missile defense system. [who are those 70 Congress persons?]
In July, after Iran tested its long-range Shihab-3 missile, Kirk and Harman wrote to Bush again, urging him to take action.
In the subsequent meetings between Israeli and American officials, the latter reiterated their opposition to a unilateral Israeli strike on Iran.
The deal was finally sealed in a meeting between Barak and his U.S. counterpart, Robert Gates, in July, and details were worked out by Lt. Gen. Henry Obering, the head of the Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency, earlier this month.

Posted by: Ha Aretz | Aug 24 2008 5:33 utc | 3

Bush may seek sanctuary protection for Pacific island chains
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush will seek formal comment from his Cabinet agencies next week on a plan that could make three of the world’s most remote and pristine island chains off-limits to commercial fishing and mineral exploration.
The action, which could be completed before Bush leaves office, would rank as one of the largest marine conservation efforts in history.
Bush’s proposal would conserve parts of the Northern Mariana islands, the Line Islands in the central Pacific and American Samoa, environmentalists said Friday. Making them off-limits to fishing and energy development is the most stringent of the possible measures outlined.
The proposal is expected to be made public as soon as Monday, when the White House plans to send a memo to Cabinet members, including the Defense, Interior and Commerce secretaries, and the Council on Environmental Quality. They will evaluate various levels of protection for the three areas and the impacts of establishing marine reserves. The review is expected to take one to two months, the participants said.
— [HOWEVER, DON’T POP THE CHAMPAGNE CORK JUST YET!!!]
Included as a rider in Bush’s proposed environmental protection measure is an immigration change which will allow unlimited H-2s foreign worker entry to the Marianas, allegedly to assist in construction of DoDs Okinawa-Guam base relocation.
However the US had allocated only $45M so far towards planning the $8B program, the largest Defense project in US history, and yet curiously US officials insist that Japan pay the majority of that cost. The unlimited-entry immigration rider isn’t tied to whether or not the base relocation project eventually happens.
Under a planned future amendment to the proposed CNMI immigration rider,an unlimited number of these H-2s who work in the Marianas for 5 years would then be able to freely move around the US on Green Cards, and work anywhere they choose to settle.

Posted by: 10,000 OFWs | Aug 24 2008 5:58 utc | 4

via Bruce Schneier,this is the terrorist profile findings.
Anyone surprised?

Posted by: shanks | Aug 24 2008 6:51 utc | 5

@ shanks,
well yes, I am surprised. granted it is the Guardian but still that is a remarkable admission. Is the intent to make everyone a potential terrorist? No where does the government take any responsibility however, all resources are put into treating the symptoms.
ah yes, first rule of staffing, never admit mistakes.

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 24 2008 7:24 utc | 6

I don’t understand #4. The amerikan government is still hanging onto the bulk of the pacific islands that they misappropriated after WW2 fortunately amerika has finally succumbed to the pressure from the Pacific Islands forum (which met last week) to stop the rampant tuna fishing which has denuded most of those islands that were meant to be temporary protectorates. The only reason the bill will have a chance of getting through is that there are bugger all fish left to protect so the fishing lobby won’t ante up the usual bung to all legislators who vote to continue this theft.
These islands were in amerika’s charge until they could attain the independent nations status that virtually every other pacific island archipeligo won decades ago. Every trick in the book has been pulled on the people to hang on to those islands which together cover a huge amount of the pacific. The theory was meant to be that amerika was liberating them from japanese tyranny but all that happened was that the japanese jackboot was replaced with an amerikan one.
amerikan fishing boats reduced the waters from samoa west to guam and the marianas to fucking deserts denying the locals their staple diet. That is unless they want to buy back the fish stolen from them, by eating out of oily little cans.
Not content with stealing the fish now amerika is going to pollute the pacific with more bases and guns and fat flabby white fucks, yet the issue is whether amerikans too fat on stolen tuna to work themselves, have to tolerate some of those pacific islanders turning up in the mainland to earn enough money to feed their families now that their traditional food source has been destroyed.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 24 2008 7:40 utc | 7

@Tangerine – 1 – the theory of Iraqi oil being pumped through a ‘closed’ Iraq/Saudi pipeline is indeed interesting. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: b | Aug 24 2008 8:20 utc | 8

Since she’s no longer working for the government, Valerie Plame might feel free to share some thoughts about this hypothesis….

Posted by: alabama | Aug 24 2008 9:10 utc | 9

@ 6, DS,
Of course, you can read it both ways, one as an admission, that anyone knows fcukall about terrorists or the other that, since there is no profile, and that we have an entire spying infrastructure in place, why not use it to spy on the entire populace? 🙂
Someone’s gotta have a job and do something.
Or the appearance of doing something.
It is easier to scare you every few days with some terrorist stories than face a massive public protest over food, health and inflation and the like of which people have not seen.

Posted by: shanks | Aug 24 2008 10:21 utc | 10

“Don’t blame the mirror if your face is crooked.”
Vladimir Putin quoting Russian proverb

If the Bush administration proceeds with its plan to deploy its Missile Defense System in Poland, Russian Prime Minister Putin will be forced to remove it militarily. He has no other option. The proposed system integrates the the entire US nuclear arsenal into one operational-unit a mere 115 miles from the Russian border. It’s no different than Khrushchev’s plan to deploy nuclear missiles in Cuba in the 1960s.
Early last year, at a press conference that was censored in the United States, Putin explained his concerns about Bush’s plan:
“Once the missile defense system is put in place it will work automatically with the entire nuclear capability of the United States. It will be an integral part of the US nuclear capability….And, for the first time in history—and I want to emphasize this—there will be elements of the US nuclear capability on the European continent. It simply changes the whole configuration of international security…..Of course, we have to respond to that.”
Nuclear weapons specialist, Francis A. Boyle, says the Bush administration’s plans represent the “longstanding US policy of nuclear first-strike against Russia.” In Boyle’s article “US Missiles in Europe: Beyond Deterrence to First Strike Threat” he states:
“By means of a US first strike about 99%+ of Russian nuclear forces would be taken out. Namely, the United States Government believes that with the deployment of a facially successful first strike capability, they can move beyond deterrence and into “compellence.”… This has been analyzed ad nauseam in the professional literature. But especially by one of Harvard’s premier warmongers in chief, Thomas Schelling –winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics granted by the Bank of Sweden– who developed the term “compellence” and distinguished it from “deterrence.” …The USG is breaking out of a “deterrence” posture and moving into a “compellence” posture. (Global Research 6-6-07)
Bush’s real goal is to force Moscow to conform to Washington’s diktats or face the prospect of first-strike nuclear annihilation. Putin must respond.
Putin needs to present his case before the UN General Assembly emphasizing how the proposed US system upsets the nuclear balance of power and poses a direct threat to Russia’s national security. He should give an account of US activities in Central Asia since the fall of the Berlin Wall showing how the Bush administration has pursued a hostile policy of encirclement and strangulation towards the Russian Federation. The US has brought most of the former Soviet satellites into NATO, including Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and now is seeking membership for Georgia and Ukraine right on Russia’s border.
The US has expanded its military installations in other areas of Central Asia, primarily Afghanistan, posing long-range problems for the entire region.
The Bush administration has also used its intelligence agencies and NGOs to foment political unrest and topple regimes which were sympathetic to Moscow in its “color-coded” revolutions. Eurasia is now inundated with American puppets who get their marching-orders from the White House.
Also, the US and its allies have declared Kosovo, a vital part of Serbian territory, independent without UN approval. Serbia is a traditional ally of Russia’s. Many analysts now believe that the recent fighting in South Ossetia was directly connected to the Bush administration’s blatant disregard for Serbia’s sovereignty.
Putin recently responded to these developments saying:
“Some people have the illusion that you can do everything just as you want, regardless of the interests of other people. Of course it is for precisely this reason that the international situation gets worse and eventually results in an arms race. But we are not the instigators. We do not want it. Why would we want to divert resources to this? And we are not jeopardizing our relations with anyone. But we must respond. Name even one step that we have taken or one action of ours designed to worsen the situation. There are none. We are not interested in that. We are interested in maintaining a good atmosphere.” Putin added exasperated, “So what should we do?” The present situation has brought us “the brink of disaster!”
Russia has complied with its treaty obligations and removed all of its heavy weapons from the Eastern Europe and put them behind the Ural Mountains. They have reduced their military by 300,000.
At the same time Washington has increased its arms shipments to new allies in Eastern Europe and is building two new military bases in Romania and Bulgaria. Missile Defense components and radar are going up in the Czech Republic and Poland. Obviously, Russia cannot continue to disarm unilaterally while neighboring states bulk up with new US-made weapons systems.
When Putin heard that the Bush administration was developing “bunker-busting” nuclear weapons he said to Bush:
“It would be better to look for other ways to fight terrorism than create low-yield nuclear weapons that lower the threshold for using these weapons, and thereby put humankind on the brink of nuclear catastrophe. But they don’t listen to us. They are not looking for compromise. Their entire point of view can be summed-up in one sentence: ‘Whoever is not with us is against us.’”.
It wasn’t Russia who scrapped the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (ABM) That was the Bush administration, too.
American expansionism has thrust the world into another arms race pitting East against West Cold War-style. The present system of international security has been upended and we are moving inexorably towards a military showdown between the two nuclear-armed powers.
As Putin stated at the press conference, “I am convinced that we have reached that decisive moment when we must seriously think about the architecture of global security.”
Indeed.
Russia is experiencing a Renaissance. 20 million people have been raised from poverty since Putin took office 8 years ago. The Russian economy has been growing by 7% a year, real incomes are growing by an astonishing 12% per year and Moscow has become a thriving center of global trade. Oil and natural gas have restored Russia to its formal role as one of the great world’s great powers. The last thing Putin wants is a nuclear standoff with the United States. But he will not shirk from his responsibilities either. If the Missile Defense system is deployed, Putin will be forced to raise the stakes and send warplanes over the construction site. That is the logical first-step that any responsible leader would take before removing the site altogether.
Bush should consider very carefully whether he wants to go ahead with this game of nuclear chicken or not. Putting a knife to Moscow’s throat is an act of aggression equal to invading Iraq, only this time the victim has the ability to fight back

We all live in interesting times.

Posted by: Lysander | Aug 24 2008 14:02 utc | 11

@11
Interesting. As I see it, apart from militarily, the other means of response is economic in terms of oil and gas. Even if Russia gets hurt, the USA gets hit harder. This is among the worst economical times for US,UK and Australia simultaneously and I’d be surprised if pressure is not being applied to force counter concessions.
It must.
And one must not forget, Russia can easily cause fissures in the EU zone by differential pricing of essential fuels. One cold winter, the choices between kowtowing to US and getting by with Russia in Europe will be clear.
As was mentioned before, Europe is heading towards a Russia delineated storyline willingly or unwillingly. The only way to prevent that is to sow the seeds of suspicion among member states. Put plainly, divide and conquer to prevent the EU from “trusting” Russia.
Hence upping the ante with this missile defence and other bases story. The Georgia storyline, while a military defeat is a propaganda win as it tries to brush Russia as an untrusted partner.
It remains to be seen whether EU will swing towards a more confrontational state towards Russia or wait out the end of the Bush term and hopefully see some sense in a new American Administration.
Debs is Dead mentioned in a different thread, that the Democrats have been no different than the republicans except that they’re not so ham handed in invasions and occupation.
In the end, pessimistically speaking, the end of globalisation is going to bring some rough, localised wars.

Posted by: shanks | Aug 24 2008 15:59 utc | 12

b 1 – the 2nd(3rd) gulf war on iraq was deliberate supply destruction of the lowest production cost crude oil on earth, under the dictatorial management of a baathist regime which was aiding and abetting the anti-zionist movement with oil revenues. so the urgency to gw2(3) was that anti-zionist threat, pnac boys loyal to their il neozi paternosters, but big oil’s end game, the ultimate strategy behind the rhetoric, chest thumping and 100-year war, was deliberate supply destruction, putting that lowest-cost crude under neozi management, then, after commodities futures regulation was deregulated under papa bush, making that neo management the elite zionist pharoahs of the world. like they say, ‘follow the money’, the politics and religion, the colors and rhetoric,… pure pap for the prols.
d 7 – pac islanders are already in the us working at tyson, conagra, cargill as chicken pluckers, since they have protectorate green card status by residency. the bush cnmi open-door to *east asian* immigrants is meant first to undercut the pac islanders labor unions as tens of thousands of east asians flood in, as indians have to tonga, and chinese to indonesia, filipinos to chuuk, etc, but then from there, after decimating the pac island local socio-economy, east asians will begin moving into the us general population as chauffeurs and pleasure girls, maids, butlers, nannies, the service category shortages neozi elites are screaming about. the downside to DHS/TSA and the 1000 mile mexican fence is a shortage of slaves. and while the cnmi language is carefully crafted to suggest east asians won’t be allowed to move east to hawaii, from there to cali, the amendment says otherwise. five years is a long time, and ostensibly there’s only work for tens of thousands, not hundreds of thousands, not millions, but by then pac island life will be gone, the dems will be in power, and immigration reform relaxed or more likely reversed. the one saving grace of global outsourcing was always an american was anyone stuck in america, white, black, brown, red, yellow or green, stuck paying the taxman, stuck paying food-energy, a wage slave like anyone else, america can absorb them, but not so with pac islanders, their society can be ripped away like a sprout in a typhoon. after all, the us was allegedly their ‘protector’, not their dominatrix.
l 11 – patriot anti-missile system only has a range of 70km, ballistically upward, though yes, the w80 nuclear cruise missile warhead can fit in the patriot, and they could then be used as tactical ground-to-ground against ru armor, but the missile batteries themselves don’t represent a change to the nnpt, nor are they a strategic threat to ru, certainly not in the way krushchev’s icbms in cuba were to us. my read is just constant il arms brokerage pressure, $30b over ten years, an f-16 here, a patriot there, keep moving death merchandise before its obsolete. i think that putin is posturing, hoping to keep the il camel’s nose out of the eu tent, out of the balkans tent, the middle east tent, the same way jesse jackson repeats his memes three times for effect. ‘keep il out, keep il out, keep il out.’ as someone has pointed out, in july cn’s exports fell below us imports into cn, and ru’s commodities profits are falling rapidly, some predict catastrophically as the us economic ice age spreads globally, au has huge unemployment and price spikes, ca has huge unemployment and price spikes, so ru probably is on edge, and if you recall ru when it was su, and de when it was west de and east de, the ru’s have always been paranoid and bellicose. don’t read nuclear winter into belly bumping.

Posted by: Belli Bumpin | Aug 24 2008 16:33 utc | 13

Well, I think it’s the end of Globalization as we know it, but not the end of Globalization, per se. The planet is on a trajectory for out and out Global Feudalism. Considering Peak Oil and the end of cheap energy, and the consequences of Global Warming, we will witness a global consolidation of power with the rest of us relegated to servitude in order to survive. There will be turf wars as the last vestiges of the Nation/State paradigm linger, but eventually circumstances will dictate that only a few can continue to maintain the quality of life we have seen in the past 50 years in the West, while the rest of us will wallow in a meager existence. Many Latin American countries are an example of things to come, but on a global scale with Regional and Local bosses to keep the natives passive and compliant. It may not be tomorrow, but certainly within 50-60 years. Considering that, now read Putin’s statement about Global Security again. Kind of gives you a different perspective, doesn’t it? Since when do these bastards look out for you and me except to find ways to rob us of our souls and squash any meaningful dissent?
As Putin stated at the press conference, “I am convinced that we have reached that decisive moment when we must seriously think about the architecture of global security.”

Posted by: Obama bin Biden | Aug 24 2008 16:43 utc | 14

@BB @13 – l 11 – patriot anti-missile system only has a range of 70km,
The missile defense that is supposed to be installed in Poland is not the Patriot system.
The Patriot that will be installed in Poland are to protect Poland and the real Missile Defense.

Posted by: b | Aug 24 2008 17:34 utc | 15

words without borders

Posted by: Lizard | Aug 24 2008 19:22 utc | 16

Obama bin Biden ? lol

Posted by: annie | Aug 24 2008 19:46 utc | 17

The guided missile destroyer USS McFaul, loaded with some 80 pallets containing about 55 tons of humanitarian aid, is the first of three American ships scheduled to arrive this week, according to the U.S. Embassy. The aid includes baby food, diapers, bottled water, and milk.

One of Georgia’s top exports- Bottled water.

The Borjomi Company has been engaged in the export of mineral water since 1996. During this period the company has managed to revive its former image and importance, which gives it the ability to compete with the world’s leading mineral water brands.
In the words of Zaza Kikvadze, Director General of Georgian Glass & Mineral Waters (GG&MW), Georgia, Borjomi currently holds the leading position in the mineral water segment of the CIS market – and it has no intention of losing it in favour of any other company.
“Borjomi is being exported to 30 countries of the world. The largest markets according to sales figures are the Ukraine, the Baltic States, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. At the same time, I would like to mention that Borjomi mineral water is best known in the former Soviet countries,” Mr. Kikvadze told Invest Today.
According to him, in 2007 a total of 65 percent of GC&MW’s sales took place abroad. “We have very high hopes and plans for our exports in general. According to our calculations, over the next three years the company will be exporting as much as 140 million litres of Borjomi mineral water. This is a rather ambitious plan and we are actively working to ensure that our aspirations will succeed. We base our work and plans on a specific marketing strategy and the correct positioning of our portfolio brands, as well as the accomplishment of an aggressive marketing policy in our existing markets through a developed distribution network,” Mr. Kikvadze noted.

Posted by: biklett | Aug 24 2008 21:01 utc | 18

surely, the diapers & baby food are for saakshivili

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 24 2008 21:28 utc | 19

http://sharpusa.cleanpowerestimator.com/sharpusa.htm
Investment $25,450 ($8,000/KW).
Payback period of 28.5 years.
Solar cell warranty 10 years.
LOL.
Well, we can always convert lawn clippings to goat cheese.
Nothing like a fine Gorgonzola in the damp, cold and dark!
??!!Other Current Assets??!!
Costs to prepare America for an All Green Electrical Future (at $8,000/KW)
1,022,347 MW x 1,000 KW/MW x 8,000 $/KW = $8,178,000,000,000, as in “T”
All Green Future, plus Zero-Carbon Transportation (at 10,000,000 Btu per MW-hour)
5,657,890 MW x 1,000 KW/MW x 8,000 $/KW x 150% escalation = $67,907,000,000,000
and that doesn’t count the cost of upgrading the patchworked overloaded national electrical distribution network or building those 350M electric cars, or scrapping out the existing gashog vehicles and oil/gas refinery brownfields, you’re looking at ~$100T in 2010 costs, not including escalation after that date….
Current taxable capacity of Americans, (ex-entitlements) is NEGATIVE -$500B/year.
By any metric, unless you’re the pharoah of Dubai, our future is brown, not green.
That’s why politicians will go ‘walleye’ on you, when you ask how much it will cost.
Tinkerbelle had better Oz, than the Green Man.
“My fellow Americans, tonight we’re launching an effort which holds the promise of changing the course of human history. There will be risks, and results take time. But I believe we can do it. As we cross this threshold, I ask for your prayers and your support.”
The nice thing about American Faith-Based MLM Ponzi Corporate Tax Incentives is you can still make a buck selling “green”, even if you recognize we’ll never get there,
unless we’re all wearing Ferragamo Pregiato moccasins, and living on cord wood and spring water, rice and pinto beans, somewhere southwest of the Mason-Dixon line.

Posted by: Patrick MacKenzie | Aug 25 2008 2:34 utc | 20

The doc Chicago 10 is available via bittorrent.
Proviso: it is produced by Sun Myung Moon and narrated by the ghost of Joe McCarthy. So, steer clear of this poison, DM.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 25 2008 3:35 utc | 21

In Nuclear Net’s Undoing, a Web of Shadowy Deals

Some details of the links between the Tinners and American intelligence have been revealed in news reports and in recent books, most notably “The Nuclear Jihadist,” a biography of Dr. Khan by Douglas Frantz and Catherine Collins. But recent interviews in the United States and Europe by The New York Times have provided a fuller portrait of the relationship — especially the involvement of all three Tinners, the large amounts of money they received and the C.I.A.’s extensive efforts on their behalf. Virtually all the officials interviewed spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss matters that remain classified.
The destroyed evidence, decades of records of the Tinners’ activities, included not only bomb and centrifuge plans but also documents linking the family to the C.I.A., officials said. One contract, a European intelligence official said, described a C.I.A. front company’s agreement to pay the smugglers $1 million for black-market secrets. The front company listed an address three blocks from the White House.
The C.I.A. declined to comment on the Tinner case, but a spokesman, Paul Gimigliano, called the disruption of Dr. Khan’s network “a genuine intelligence success.”

Said simpler: The U.S. via the CIA controlled nuclear proliferation to Lybia and Iran and covered up who else (Saudi?/Egypt?/Turkey? got hold of the material by having the evidence in Switzerland destroyed …
Could someone ask Valerie Plame about this?

Posted by: b | Aug 25 2008 4:31 utc | 22

Maliki further “cleans up” the Awakening Sunnis:
Bomb Shatters Party, Killing 25 Iraqis

Sheik Ayed Salim al-Zubaie held a large dinner party at his house in Abu Ghraib on Sunday evening to celebrate the release of a family member who had been imprisoned by American forces for three years.

The bombing killed at least 25 people and wounded at least 29 others, the police said.
Witnesses speculated that the target of the attack was a group of sheiks attending the dinner who had been working with the Americans to fight insurgents.

Posted by: b | Aug 25 2008 4:53 utc | 23

Upper chamber backs independence of Abkazia and South Ossetia –
Russia’s upper chamber of parliament has unanimously voted to ask the Russian President to recognise independence of Abkazia and South Ossetia.
http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/29428

Posted by: Mentalic | Aug 25 2008 7:19 utc | 24

There was only one saving grace for me as a teen, nothing, nothing, nothing, cut through and soothed my rage and anger like the band, Yes!. (note part 1 & 2 and part 3 are automatically linked and auto-play). When I was ‘close to the edge’, (pun intended), something about their life affirming and just beyond the horizon music was and still is mystical and cathartic for me. There is a difference in ‘Professional Musicians’ top notch Entertainers and superb Performers, they were and are all three, a grand craft, indeed. Musicians beyond their time and timeless…
Long story short…Something about my ritual of headphones and their music literally saved my mental health and ultimately from being a statistic…
I offer this to a dear friend and his families newborn…
In the darkness of my youth they were a celebration… and I loved their Wonderous Stories… and always wanted to share this music with my children.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 25 2008 9:45 utc | 25

There was never a ‘Yes’, without Chris Squire
He is a Bass God.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 25 2008 10:52 utc | 26

keeping Yes music alive, this kid is a bass prodigy… Doing great service to Chris Squire.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 25 2008 11:33 utc | 27

Can’t help it… last one, I promise, but this kid works his Rickenbacker like a master. Enjoy…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 25 2008 11:44 utc | 28

on the “large dinner party” bombing in #23, i would wager that, like the recurrent “big wedding” party bombings, SIGINT plays a role in their targeting by way of repeated references in monitored communications to keywords or phrases that the software flags as code for dangerous activity. if SIGINT analysis is increasingly turned over to automated processes, any chatter about “the big wedding” or “the big dinner party” would obviously return false positives about whatever event fits pre-defined triggers, which then provides support for human interpretation already biased to the point of paranoia, ala the one-percent doctrine.

Posted by: b real | Aug 25 2008 14:52 utc | 29

@ b real #29
brilliant speculation and erudite comment, as ever…
New automatic surveillance system from Siemens

“According to a document obtained by New Scientist, the system integrates tasks typically done by separate surveillance teams or machines… This software is trained on a large number of sample documents to pick out items such as names, phone numbers and places from generic text. This means it can spot names or numbers that crop up alongside anyone already of interest to the authorities, and then catalogue any documents that contain such associates.”

being as this software is now sold in over sixty countries thanks to the GWOT, look for more of this kind of mayhem, along these lines…
from the same..

“Computer security expert Bruce Schneier agrees. “Currently there are no good patterns available to recognise terrorists,” he says, and questions whether Siemens has got around this.
Whatever the level of accuracy, human rights advocates are concerned that the system could give surveillance-hungry repressive regimes a ready-made means of monitoring their citizens. Carole Samdup of the organisation Rights and Democracy in Montreal, Canada, says the system bears a strong resemblance to the Chinese government’s “Golden Shield” concept, a massive surveillance network encompassing internet and email monitoring as well as speech and facial-recognition technologies and closed-circuit TV cameras.”
Yeah..To catch a terrorist..
Anyone else get the feeling that these technologies are not for catching criminals…
“In June, the PRISE consortium of security technology and human-rights experts, funded by the European Union (EU), submitted a report to the European Commission asking for a moratorium on the development of data-fusion technologies, referring explicitly to the Siemens Intelligence Platform.
“The efficiency and reliability of such tools is as yet unknown,” says the report. “More surveillance does not necessarily lead to a higher level of societal security. Hence there must be a thorough examination of whether the resulting massive constraints on human rights are proportionate and justified.”
Nokia Siemens says 90 of the systems are already being used around the world, although it hasn’t specified which countries are using it. A spokesman for the company said, “We implement stringent safeguards to prevent misuse of such systems for unauthorised purposes. In all countries where we operate we do business strictly according to the Nokia Siemens Networks standard code of conduct and UN and EU export regulations.””

Thanks a shitload, Nokia.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 25 2008 15:28 utc | 30

Dick Cheney to visit Georgia next week. The neocons a pulling out all stops to shore up the political fortunes of their prize asset, the indomitable Lion of the Caucasus. Mikheil Nik’olozis dze Saak’ashvili.
I read last week that pro Russian Ukrainians are sending Saak 365 red ties, one to chew on each day, and a load of running shoes so he can more easily run from Russian bombers. That’ll go well with the diapers (awww!) offloaded by the humanitarian American military, which, to be fair, also ships goods to Afghan children, so that’s ok then.

Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Aug 25 2008 15:53 utc | 31

Lots of good comments here – especially #7 on overfishing and #14 on 21st-, 22nd-century feudalism. But in 20 000 years will there be “space-feudalism” with planets as fiefs? That’s what I want to know.
Cheers.

Posted by: Cloud | Aug 25 2008 21:33 utc | 33

when i watch that gonnoreah-ridden-golem wolf blitzer & his team of imbeciles – is that i am watching the marx brothers ‘duck soup’ on acid

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 26 2008 0:36 utc | 34

from the NSN code of conduct U$:

Among those rights that Nokia :Siemens Networks views as fundamental and universal are: freedom from any discrimination based on race, creed, color, nationality, ethnic origin, age, religion, gender, gender reassignment, sexual orientation, marital status, connections with a national minority, disability, or other status; freedom from arbitrary detention, execution or torture; freedom of peaceful assembly and association; freedom of thought, conscience and religion; and freedom of opinion and expression. Nokia Siemens Networks will not use child or forced labor. Nokia Siemens Networks will not tolerate working conditions or treatment that is in conflict with international laws and practices.

so as you can see, it’s all good.

Posted by: ran | Aug 26 2008 2:24 utc | 35

2 men are arrested on weapons chargers (2 rifles, scope, etc) believed to be under an assasination plot on Barrack Obama at the democratic national convention

Posted by: Alert! Breaking news..Uncle $cam | Aug 26 2008 3:24 utc | 36

Obama Assassination Plot?
Update on possible Obama assassination plot, arrests, in Denver
false flag or ratcheting up the tension? Both?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 26 2008 3:36 utc | 37

Pentagon: murdering dozens of civilians “legitimate”
all in a day’s work for our brave freedom fighters.

Posted by: ran | Aug 26 2008 3:57 utc | 38

sudan tribune: Sudanese president offers to share Darfur wealth with US

August 25, 2008 (WASHINGTON) – The Sudanese president Omer Hassan Al-Bashir offered to allow US companies to explore for oil in the war ravaged region of Darfur.
“Darfur is a rich region swimming over a lake of oil. Darfur has large quantity of minerals like copper, iron and Uranium. There is also aluminum nitrate and a very large aquifer. There is animal wealth and agricultural land” Al-Bashir told the Dubai based Al-Arabiya TV in an interview last week.
“We have no problem with them [Americans] coming and sharing it with us but they want to take it all” the Sudanese president said.
US companies are unable to conduct business in Sudan because of sanctions imposed by Washington since 1997.

The Sudanese head of state accused the US of standing behind the ICC indictment and targeting him because he is opposed to Washington’s policies in the region.

“There is no reason for targeting us except first of all we are against Israel’s policies in the region and the Palestinian people. We are also opposed to US policies going at the Arab and Islamic region” he said.
Al-Bashir also said that Washington wants Darfur to have the right to secede in a manner similar to that of the South.
“They [Southern Sudanese] have a right of self determination by the end of the interim period in 2011. This is one of their [US] goals; to have Darfur reach this stage [self determination]” he added.
He also said that Western powers want to divide Sudan into 5 states; one in southern Sudan, one in Darfur, one in Kordofan, one in the east of Sudan, and one in the centre of Sudan.
“They think that the Darfur issue is the last means to undermine Sudan because if peace is realized in Darfur and a solution is found, there will be no other problem left” Al-Bashir added.
Moreover Al-Bashir alleged that unidentified powers want to de-Arabize and de-Islamize Sudan.
“The first project was the New Sudan Plan. This means that Sudan must be emptied of the Arabs and kept distant from Islam” he said. “They hoped to do this through the SPLM and the war in southern Sudan, or through the Darfur war” adding that all these attempts failed.

and al-bashir made that gesture last week, prior to obama’s announcement of joe “I would use American force [in Darfur] now” biden as his running mate. biden has been particularly hawkish on the darfur issue over the past couple of years, earning him high marks (A+) from the “Genocide Intervention Network’s” darfurScores.org.
obama himself also gets straight A’s (cumulative A+) for being a “champion to the cause”
and w/ susan “darfur can’t be left to africa” rice on the team, look the f*ck out! bombers at 12 o’clock high! no wonder al-bashir’s already looking for a ‘multilateral’ solution.

Posted by: b real | Aug 26 2008 4:44 utc | 39

The Bloody Shirt
by billmon

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 26 2008 5:26 utc | 40

A curious time warp argument by Billmon. The problem of course is that counter culture hatred is not as dead as it may seem. A large percentage of AM radio still has a steady diet of 60′-70’s fare – that would be like in 1970 finding the majority of radio fare still playing Rudy Vallee and The Andrews Sisters, which definitely was not the case. While much of the counter-culture has been absorbed into the mainstream, like Jimi Hendrix’s Star Spangle Banner soundtracking a Mountain Dew commercial, it still serves as a testament to its latent viability ( even though the content has been appropriated). Not to mention the connection between the Vietnam war and the one in Iraq and Afghanistan – both of which we’re on the verge of loosing, for very similar reasons. McCain will indeed use the Weathermen, to some advantage, because most Americans STILL need a weatherman to tell them which way the wind blows.

Posted by: anna missed | Aug 26 2008 7:37 utc | 41

b real [ 39]
**and w/ susan “darfur can’t be left to africa” rice on the team, look the f*ck out! bombers at 12 o’clock high! no wonder al-bashir’s already looking for a ‘multilateral’ solution.**
If a US government starts showing a munificent concern for your wellbeing, it’s time to dig a bomb shelter

Posted by: denk | Aug 26 2008 15:41 utc | 42

Honduras joins Venezuelan pact; Chavez promises oil

TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) – Honduras, long considered an ally of the United States in Central America, joined on Monday a Latin American pact that has been pushed by Venezuela as a way to contain U.S. influence in the region.
Honduras is a member of a free trade pact between Central America and the United States.
But President Manuel Zelaya, a logging magnate seen as a moderate liberal, has been drifting toward closer ties with Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez, a U.S. foe.
On Monday, Honduras joined the Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas, or ALBA, which is based on complementary trade and cooperation instead of free-market competition.

“All the energy that they need … in Honduras is assured for the next 100 years,” Chavez told a cheering crowd of about 50,000 people in the Honduran capital.

Posted by: b real | Aug 26 2008 18:25 utc | 43

secrecy news blog: Anxious Governments React to Google Earth

The easy availability of high-resolution imagery of much of the Earth’s surface through Google Earth has presented a significant challenge to longstanding secrecy and national security policies, and has produced several distinct types of reactions from concerned governments, according to a recent report from the DNI Open Source Center (OSC).
“As the initial shock wore off, five main responses to the ‘Google threat’ emerged from nations around the world: negotiations with Google, banning Google products, developing a similar product, taking evasive measures, and nonchalance,” the OSC report said.
The report documents these responses with citations to published news sources. It also notes several incidents in which terrorists or irregular military forces reportedly used Google Earth to plan or conduct attacks.
The OSC report has not been approved for public release, but a copy was obtained by Secrecy News. See “The Google Controversy — Two Years Later (pdf),” Open Source Center, 30 July 2008.

google earth is reportedly the most widely used GEOINT application in the intel business & beyond
interesting image comparison of “vanished” italian airstrips on microsoft’s live earth juxtaposed against google earth — Vanished 13 Italy Air Bases

Posted by: b real | Aug 26 2008 18:37 utc | 44

interesting image comparison of “vanished” italian airstrips on microsoft’s live earth juxtaposed against google earth
Yeah, saw that too – some bad photoshop work on the Microsoft product. The street map overlay shows a road, the zoom picture shows the road and suddenly only fields and then again the road. The manipulation is done stupidly. When you zoom out on the live earth picture you will see a different set of (rougher) pics which clearly show the airports.
Google still has the airport on Italy in all zoom levels.
But then again, Google has only very, very low resolution pictures of Israel and no, zero, road maps of it. Can’t you buy those in Tel Aviv? Also pictures of Iraq and Afghanistan are some 4 years old. Did the satellites stop flying over those countries?

Posted by: b | Aug 26 2008 18:47 utc | 45

link for the picture/airport I described above – pic 5-7 …

Posted by: b | Aug 26 2008 19:49 utc | 46

Can’t help but notice that overseas meadia eg the Independent or even my local fishwrap has more on the”Obama plot” than the amerikan media. That after taking a quick gander at the NYT and seeing nothing on the front page.
Yes I realise that it probably was an amateur hour crack at him but many lesser ‘terraist’ plots against the asshole Bush have been beaten up much more in the media.
The rethug controlled Justice Dept through US Attorney’s Office and the FBI have closed the assassination attempt story down because they don’t want to give Obama any publicity, if the racism has incited this much already then there will be a backlash, and they know it wasn’t a serious attempt because they haven’t gotten the ‘green light’ to do the hit yet. Take yer pick one or all of the above but it will be interesting to watch the amerikan media try to ignore this. Of course if some foreign media source managed to get some hard info on this the amerikan media is gonna look even worse than usual as they race to catch up.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 26 2008 20:44 utc | 47

Dennis Kucinich at the DNC: Wake Up America!
Damn, where ya been so long DK?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 27 2008 0:08 utc | 48

b @45 – could be experimental or a hack solution for now. no doubt they’ll eventually improve their masking technologies, though all it really does it prevent users from zooming in & scoping out those facilities – those interested in them already know the coordinates & how to find what they want. i suppose the cheap masking also suffices for now to keep the browsing viewer from stumbling upon places that don’t want the attention.
read this wrt google recently in tim shorrock’s spies for hire: the secret world of intelligence outsourcing,

One of the most valuable technologies funded by In-Q-Tel [“the CIA’s venture capital fund”] is now used by virtually anyone who uses a computer: Google Earth. This massive database of 3-D satellite images … was first developed as EarthView by a company called Keyhole, Inc., based in Mountain View, California. In 2003, seeing value in EarthView for military applications, the CIA fund — in a partnership with the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency — invested an undisclosed amount of money in the company, and within two weeks EarthView was being used by U.S. forces in Iraq. Google bought In-Q-Tel’s shares in Keyhole in 2004 and quickly incorporated the program into its widely used search engine.
[…]
Two of the biggest buyers of satellite imagery outside the government are Google and Microsoft. … Over the last three years, Google has moved heavily into the U.S. defense market, selling enhanced products such as Google Earth Fusion, which allows the NGA and other agencies to manipulate and integrate their own images with the company’s software. During that time, its government business increased from $73,000 to $312,000. Google Earth is now the standard mapping software used in geospatial intelligence.
Google, however, has run into controversy: the detail in high-resolution photographs that Google distributes to the public has alarmed governments in India, Russia, and South Korea, which have made their complaints known to the company. [“Due to those complaints, Google has hired former Secretary of State Colin Powell as an adviser.”] The wide availability of its imagery has also raised concerns in the U.S. military, which believes that terrorists and insurgents in Iraq are using Google Earth as a tool for targeting attacks on U.S. soldiers. … Speaking at a GEOINT 2006 panel on future challenges for the industry, Michael T. Jones, the chief technology officer for Google Earth, admitted that it would be easy for enemy soldiers to use Google. “Unfriendlies can use our commercial data because the barrier of entry is so low,” he said. But Jones … argued that such incidents reflected the wide diffusion of modern technology. “As long as cell phones are on, Google Earth should be on,” he said.

also, the street view feature on google is kinda unsettling when you can view your vehicles parked in front of the house at street level and zoom in on the first-story windows. i reckon an assemblage of vehicles equipped w/ a panoramic camera putzed around the gridwork of streets at some point either earlier this spring or last fall. it was useful, however to track down someone involved in a fender bender, verifying their address by locating their vehicle in the adjacent parking lot.

Posted by: b real | Aug 27 2008 4:31 utc | 49

article from armed forces press service on what new wrt the u.s. military’s objectives for the southern hemisphere
Southern Command transformation promotes new approach to regional challenges

/26/2008 – MIAMI – (AFPN) — Along with U.S. Africa Command going fully operational Oct. 1, the Defense Department will reach another milestone as U.S. Southern Command officials complete a major reorganization that also promotes joint, interagency and even private- and public-sector cooperation.
The concept supports universal agreement among President Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, Joint Chiefs Chairman Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, the service chiefs and the combatant commanders that the military can’t tackle 21st-century security challenges alone.

“We are working to create an organization that can best adapt itself to working with the interagency, with our international partners and even with the private-public sector,” said Navy Adm. James Stavridis, SOUTHCOM commander. “And we want to do it in a way that is completely supportive of all our partners.
“If I would put one word on it, it’s partnership,” he said. “That is our [SOUTHCOM] motto: Partnership for the Americas. And our objective is to become the best possible international, interagency partner we can be.”
Admiral Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, noted the similarities between what’s happening at SOUTHCOM and AFRICOM during his late-June visit to the AFRICOM headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany. Looking out at the audience during a town hall meeting, he called the new command’s interagency makeup and the expansive capability it will bring a sign of things to come.
“I think you, in many ways, represent the face of the future with respect to our combatant commands,” Admiral Mullen told the group. “You may be leading what we are doing in our government.”
As they carry that charge, both SOUTHCOM and AFRICOM are breaking the mold for the way U.S. combatant commands have operated since passage of the National Security Act in 1947.

Secretary Gates gave the plan the green light, putting SOUTHCOM’s reorganization on his list of 25 transformation priorities for the Defense Department. SOUTHCOM shares a single bullet on the list alongside AFRICOM, with both commands to be structured as interagency operations by Oct. 1.
“So we are first cousins with AFRICOM, no doubt about it,” Colonel Sparling said. “The end state we and AFRICOM are aiming for is really the same end state, philosophically.”
Admiral Stavridis said he communicates regularly with Army Gen. William “Kip” Ward, the AFRICOM commander, and Navy Vice Adm. Robert T. Moeller, General Ward’s deputy commander for military operations and a close personal friend, to share ideas about their ongoing efforts.
“Our staffs are talking constantly, and we are indeed sharing lessons back and forth,” he said.
He compared AFRICOM’s Africa Partnership Station initiative in the Gulf of Guinea, which provides maritime training to African volunteers, to a similar effort Sailors on the USNS Grasp are conducting in the Caribbean.
“We are trying to do some very similar things, and it all goes back to partnership,” he said.
Both commands have adopted a command structure with two deputies reporting to the commander: one focused on military operations and one on civil-military activities. At AFRICOM, Ambassador Mary Carlin Yates is the civilian deputy and Admiral Moeller is the military deputy. Their counterparts at SOUTHCOM are Air Force Lt. Gen. Glenn F. Spears, military deputy to the commander, and Ambassador Paul A. Trivelli, civilian deputy to the commander and foreign policy advisor, who came on board earlier this week.

it’s obvious that the u.s. is trying (hoping?) to emulate/undercut the cubans, who went from exporting revolution to exporting doctors, by putting an emphasis on medical services, using their ships as floating hospitals and offering free checkups/vaccinations/etc throughout ports across both continents

Posted by: b real | Aug 27 2008 4:44 utc | 50

Dennis Kucinich at the DNC
Wake up, America!

Posted by: Hamburger | Aug 27 2008 16:46 utc | 51

howsz come the VP’s missing emails never become a talking point for the many hide’n crimes of the current admin of the u of s a?
some headline from the google machine . . .
dots need connected here too?
sheez!

Posted by: gus | Aug 28 2008 0:41 utc | 52

the cnn coverage is absolutely unfuckingbearable. the gonnoreah-ridden golem & his crew is like some mad movie about some mad kingdom
chied this, chief that , chief something else – you really know they want to put on uniforms with braid & colours
they are so so fucking cretinous in their cackling – they take your breath away with their idiocy & their bias as clear as day

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 28 2008 1:02 utc | 53

rgiap,
I just watched Biden speak to the Democrats – I feel as if I just cleaned out a full grease trap without gloves.
All those back-slapping, grinning liars, and that horde of placard-jiggling, slack-jawed acolytes… Mad kingdom, indeed.

Posted by: Tantalus | Aug 28 2008 3:31 utc | 54

Let’s move on now that the show is over, to the real show, the one that matters.
First, the uber wealthy love being called rich. They love having reporters ask
how many houses they have, how many cars, how rich their wife is, they LOVE IT!
Star power! Lifestyles of the rich and famous! Extra! Extra! You’re feeding that!
But they have a fatal weakness. Even though all, or most all are screaming mad
racists and religious fanatics, nowadays wealth cuts across races and religions.
If they have to sleep with a Saudi, they sleep with a Saudi. If they have to back-
slap a Chinese, tell them what a great guy they are! They’d even kiss a Mugabe.
These uber wealthy HATE being called racist. They hate anything which reminds
people the wealthy got that way by being classist, racist, apartheid fanatics.
Behind the scenes, their AIPAC & PNAC PACs are spreading the most evil racist apartheid lies imaginable, but in the media spotlights, oh, it’s all white lace and linen, fair play and good show!
So, let’s use John “Birch” McCain, (like Ron “Dutch” Reagan, but a word play
on John Birch Society), that disquieting reference to the truth, that McCain is
the lineal descendant of white-supremacist Scotch-Irish Virginia slave holders!
MCCAIN, W. A., 52 slaves
Or another, John “The Boff Man” McCain, for his “family values” adultery with the
beer heiress in dumping his long suffering wife in a post-adulterous divorce.
Speaking of “beer heiress”, why don’t they just hand the election to the ReThugs?!
“Beer”? Who doesn’t like beer? And “heiress”? The wealthy swoon at that descriptor!
Whoever picked the words “beer heiress” to describe Cindy sat at Carl Rove’s feet.
How about, Cindy “Prohibition Princess” McCain, reminding people her wealth came
from the Federal government prohibition that outlawed home brewing hootch, and
‘princess’, because her father, on his death bed, abandoned his other family, his
original wife and daughters, and gave everything to Cindy.
With that, and a reminder to pick your P’s and Q’s, a Little Green Football.
But first, play this soundtrack before you start reading.
Which world? Choose!!
Road Sassy NeoZi White Apartheid Halliban Fundamentalist Mullahs up your ass
-or- Abdullah Ibrahim?
You decide!
This is it, fight to the death between KKK/John Birch/South Shall Rise Again,
and all the rest of US
, and if you’re not from the US, and don’t know in your bones what that means, think of Israel/Palestine, or Calvinist Afrikaaners/native kafirs, and the endless decades of slavery and grinding poverty that await US there.
Our children will wear Saudi collars and bark in Mandarin at McCain’s Gates of Hell.

Posted by: Thomas Terrife | Aug 28 2008 4:51 utc | 55

It’s just so demoralizing and depressing to see the same people, blogs same groundhog day etc, w/eyes glazed over in an orgasmic ga ga thinking Obama Bi den are the saviors they have been waiting for…
Sickening really…
Twisting the concept of ‘elite’

A fundamental problem in the last few decades – both in Canada and the United States – has been the relentless campaign waged by the financial elite to overturn postwar social and economic policies that provided significant gains for the middle and lower classes in the decades following World War II.
The campaign has been phenomenally successful. As a result, the poor have lost ground, while the middle class have barely held their own or made small advances – by working longer hours or having two-income families.
Only the rich have thrived. And they have truly thrived. A group of international economists, including McMaster University’s Michael Veall, has tracked the spectacular gains of the top 1 per cent of income earners, who now, in both Canada and the U.S., enjoy over 15 per cent of national income – a level not seen since the days of the idle rich in the Roaring ’20s.
Yet even as the rich have redirected income towards themselves, they’ve managed to remove the issue of economic inequality from the agenda. Part of the strategy – honed by media-savvy conservative think-tanks and commentators – has been to redefine the notion of elitism to refer to those who belong to the liberal elite, and do things like drink lattes, maintain an international outlook and speak articulately. …(more)

via the fine fine blog entitled, wood’s lot..

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 28 2008 7:51 utc | 56

billmom is really proud
me too

Posted by: annie | Aug 28 2008 8:08 utc | 57

Annie, your link in 56 seems to be broken or defective.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 28 2008 8:38 utc | 58

Who dropped cluster bombs, Georgia or Russia?
Georgia and human rights watch have accused Russia for bombing georgian villagers with cluster bombs. This morning a norwegian defense researcher, Ove Dullum, who has seen photos of unexploded bombs, says in an interview on Swedish radio the there is no doubt that these bombs are of exactly the same model that Israel dropped on Lebanon. He says only Israel makes them, and that it is highly unlikely that they would have been sold to Russia.
Did Georgia bomb Georgian villages in Ossetia with cluster bombs? Dullum stops very short of saying that. He does say that it cannot be excluded.
(since this is my first comment: many thanks for MoA, it keeps me sane, paranoid and away from work)

Posted by: Lurker | Aug 28 2008 12:42 utc | 59

Greetings, Lurker–and thanks for that mighty link!

Posted by: alabama | Aug 28 2008 13:01 utc | 60

It worked! The barricade is broken!!! USS Liberty reached Gaza. Some of the Activists are leaving Gaza today.
More info here.
This is BIG news, isn’t it?

Posted by: Jake | Aug 28 2008 14:47 utc | 61

wow jake, that is big news. from your 2nd link

As you know we set off from Larnaca, determined but a little nervous on Friday and, in the dead of night, all of our communications when down … satellite phones, radar etc. There we were sailing in rough seas, in the pitch black without any form of communication to the outside world.
It was psychological warfare but the Zionist scare tactics failed and driven by nothing more than people power and a couple of seaworthy engines the SS Free Gaza and the SS Liberty sailed into a tumultus welcome in Gaza.
It was one of those defining moments in history – a bit like the first brick of the Berlin Wall being dislodged by ordinary citizens sick of the injustices imposed in a world run by political bullies.
All I could hear ringing in my ears was “Free, Free, Free Gaza and Allahu Akbar”.
The emotion was unbelievable and the joy swept us all along on the crest of a gigantic Palestinian wave of delight and disbelief.

We have now smashed the medieval siege imposed by Israel but we will not stop.

this is the first i’ve heard of this. what’s going on??
btw, it is the SS Liberty, not the USS liberty. one got bombed, the other didn’t.
hannah, sorry i must have dozed off. b took care of it.
on another note
Halliburton sued for human trafficking


This spring, a judge at the Department of Labor ordered KBR’s contractor, Daoud, to pay $1 million to the families of 11 of the victims.

a million? does that even qualify as a slap on the wrist to a company like KBR? a pin prick? NO. more like having a fly rest on your arm.
no criminal charges? someone should be in jail for this. arrrrrrrrgh

Posted by: annie | Aug 28 2008 17:10 utc | 62

Some Republicans bemoaned an apparent GOP curse when it comes to summer storms and noted the contrast between the approach of Gustav and the sunny weather in Denver for the Democrats. “The Republicans can’t seem to catch a break when it comes to August and when it comes to the weather,” said Karl Rove, a former Bush adviser, on Fox News yesterday.–WaPo, August 28, 2008.
An interesting slip by Rove–because the GOP convention starts in September. So what happened lately to the GOP, and in what August other than that of 2005? Answer: the absolute indifference of its leaders, in 2001, to the fact that trouble was in the air….

Posted by: alabama | Aug 29 2008 7:14 utc | 63

Re Annie at #62
…. this is the first i’ve heard of this. what’s going on??
Who owns the MSM?

Posted by: Jake | Aug 29 2008 13:15 utc | 64

Uncle #56, thanks for links.
Re “elite” usage: eight years ago in a bar to a guy who was complaining about political corruption I was saying gist of “$100 per citizen per campaign, period, no tax dollars. Candidates can use their own money, that is free speech not paid shouting, but no loans to the campaign, and those that use a lot of their own money should automatically be especially distrusted.” Even though I think he was in favor of less political advertising, and was sober and until then articulate, he just called me an “elitist” and wouldn’t elaborate.

Posted by: plushtown | Aug 29 2008 13:54 utc | 65

re Alabama #63: not indifference in August ’01. Anticipation, as in the Carly Simon song used for a ketchup commercial.

Posted by: plushtown | Aug 29 2008 14:11 utc | 66

This is a little long, but might interest the interested. TRUE REASON POT IS ILLEGAL

Posted by: plushtown | Aug 29 2008 20:36 utc | 67

more jurisprudential news from the empire

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 30 2008 2:27 utc | 68

Fear not. We can all sleep soundly, for we are in good hands …

Missile crew punished for sleeping on the job
WASHINGTON: Three ballistic missile crew members have been punished for sleeping during a sensitive task, the US Air Force said.
Two first lieutenants and a captain fell asleep on July 12 while in control of a classified electronic part that contained old launch codes for intercontinental nuclear missiles. It happened during the changing out of electronic parts used to communicate with Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota.
— snip —
Two officers are under investigation for lying about destroying classified missile components, and another for alleged sexual misconduct, the military reported.
A crew member formerly from the 91st Missile Wing told the military that he and another officer formerly assigned to the wing didn’t tell the truth about destroying classified launch devices in July 2005.
Such devices are approximately the size of a bandage and are used on equipment inside the launch control center to detect any equipment tampering.

Posted by: Outraged | Aug 30 2008 11:39 utc | 69

@ b real, vbo, a swedish kind of death
Thank you for the gracious welcome
Um, apologies for duplicating your ATO post re ‘Black Sea Fleet’, b real, somehow overlooked it.
Heartfelt well wishes to mon ami remembereringgiap, annie and uncle $cam … still steel 😉
Good to see so many familiar hands, too many names to mention
Especial appreciation to b for his seeming unlimited insights and passion in sponsoring this ongoing community. Salut
Have been intermittently dropping by to lurk … MOA is an oasis, a refuge, a community sanity check, amidst the relentless ‘reality’ of the matrix … hm, please excuse my blabbering.
Coincidentally have some limited down-time to post a little again whilst these ‘interesting times’ are upon us.

Posted by: Outraged | Aug 30 2008 12:20 utc | 70

Bust Em Before They Bite
Youtube: Lawyer in handcuffs-Police raid RNC journalist’s house I like how they barely even throw in the idea that the protesters “would have” done something illegal and pretty much let it stand that they arrested them for being protesters. By which I mean I hate it.
I was surprised to learn, that a democracynow journalist is also being detained here…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 30 2008 22:45 utc | 71

according to this site the hippie counter culture has strange origins and a large part of the mystery, according to the author, surrounds Laurel Canyon, outside Los Angeles. It’s a long piece, posted serially, and not yet finished, but if even 10% of the connections and coincidences are true, there is certainly something very weird about the hills and canyons outside LA.

Posted by: Lizard | Aug 31 2008 1:55 utc | 72

ethnic cleansing in New Orleans

Posted by: Lizard | Aug 31 2008 2:36 utc | 73

coha: President Martin Torrijos’ Velvet Panamanian Coup

On September 3, a number of Panamanian civic groups and political movements have scheduled a nationwide protest against the recently enacted five-pronged National Security Reform package. President Martin Torrijos and his Cabinet approved what essentially was a presidential edict, during the National Assembly’s two-month recess. In effect, President Torrijos has staged a velvet coup, weakening the Constitutional rights of individual Panamanians. Torrijos granted himself “special legislative powers,” allowing him to rule by decree in the areas of anti-crime and anti-terrorism. The President possesses plenary powers allowing him to rush through a series of security measures that had the effect, according to his critics, of dangerously militarizing the country.
Of particular note, on August 18, the eleven-member Cabinet Council approved the creation of the National Intelligence and Security Service (SENIS) and the modification of Article 41 of the National Police Law, to allow former military officers to be named as Chief of the National Police Force. Two days later, the remaining three Torrijos reforms were passed, consolidating the Air Service, Coast Guard, and Navy into the Aeronaval National Service, creating the National Border Patrol, and reorganizing the Council on Public Security and National Defense as a separate entity. Taken together, the reform package represents an ominous, if not alarming, development in the rapid remilitarization of Panama.

The National Assembly granted Torrijos “special legislative powers” for two months, beginning in June 2008, to help him address Panama’s professed security crisis. Under these auspices, Torrijos and Minister of Government and Justice Daniel Delgado Diamante drafted the five decrees of the National Security Reform package. Section XII of the Panamanian Constitution prohibits the country from fielding a formal army except when an imminent danger exists on the national level, in which case the armed forces can “organize temporarily … special police protection on the border and within Panama’s legal jurisdiction.” The creation of an autonomous Aeronaval National Service, a National Border Patrol under the newly created National Customs Authority, as well as SENIS, expressly contradicts this section of the Constitution, because any temporary Panamanian protection force must be formed only as a component of the National Police Force. Panamanians have a good reason to fear the prospects of the growth of the National Border Patrol and SENIS into a possible restraint on citizen’s rights, with the Patrol likely to reflect reorganizing of the Noriega-era Panamanian Defense Force and SENIS into a CIA-type secret intelligence agency.

On July 7, 2008, the aforementioned Delgado Diamante, who formerly was Colonel of Noriega’s PDF, traveled to the United States to “offer officials from the United States [Panama’s] vision for regional security and Panama’s role in the international struggle against narcotrafficking and organized crime.” During the four-day trip, he met with government, military, and police officials in Washington, Miami, and Fort Benning, Georgia, including Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates, Dr. Richard Downie of the National Defense University’s Center for Hemispheric Defense Studies, as well as officials form the United States Southern Command (SouthCom), Coast Guard, DEA, FBI, and the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (formerly the School of the Americas). The visit came just four days after Panama City announced its decision against seeking to lease out any of its military facilities to the U.S. as a replacement for the soon-to-be vacated Manta Air Force Base in Ecuador.
Following his U.S. trip, Minister Delgado Diamante claimed to “not ask for anything.” Shortly thereafter, however, SouthCom sent a Green Berets unit to train ground forces to help provide the radar cover that Panama requested from Washington in May 2008. This is not the first time that the Bush administration has provided support for a supposedly non-existent Panamanian military. The U.S. also provided a $650,000 military training grant to Panama in 2007 in addition to supplying a $4 million grant to support anti-narcotrafficking initiatives during the same fiscal year. In fact, Gates wrote to the two delegates representing the U.S. Congress, that the Panamanian Police Force was “an army, all but in name,” recalling the need to have some kind of an armed military in Panama following Operation Just Cause.

Torrijos justifies his highly controversial reforms in large part because “the Colombian military is pushing the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) so hard,” that they are illegally transferring their operations to Panama, causing Torrijos a big problem and helping to destabilize the isthmian nation.

The recent militarization of Panama has been largely overlooked by the U.S. media, even though it begs the question of how Torrijos got this far. Marcos Wilson Jr., a well-connected Panamanian living in Washington D.C., wisely told COHA: “No one was really looking at what Torrijos and his Partido Revolucionario Democrático (PRD) were really about. We did not get here all of a sudden. The president did not wake up one morning and say that [he was] going to militarize the country.”

It is time to keep a closer eye on Panama.

Posted by: b real | Aug 31 2008 5:45 utc | 74

@Lizard #72:
Dang! I have always distrusted the hippies that weren’t “on the bus” – that’s some scary shite! So now, am I to view Ken Kesey as nothing more than a carrier pigeon? A counterculture Manchurian candidate? Or maybe a ‘Dr. Yueh’ of a sort, as in “Sure, I’ll carry your poison to the masses, but I’m gonna get some mileage out of it on the way!”

Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Aug 31 2008 8:20 utc | 75

Yet another expensive, as well as risky, result of supporting Sashas little misadventure …

Nasa considers shuttle shelf-life
Nasa will study whether the space shuttle can operate beyond its planned retirement in 2010, reports say.
— snip —
Russian flights
In April, Dr Griffin told a Senate sub-committee: “The shuttle is an inherently risky design. We currently assess the per-mission risk as about one in 75 of having a fatal accident.
“If one were to do, as some have suggested, fly the shuttle for an additional five years – say two missions a year – the risk would be about one in 12 that we would lose another crew.”
— snip —
Five-year gap
In the five-year gap between the retirement of the shuttle and the first flights of the Orion capsule, Nasa will be reliant on Russia’s Soyuz system for transporting astronauts to the International Space Station (ISS).
But some are now concerned about the wisdom of this plan to purchase seats aboard the Soyuz, given the diplomatic tension between the US and Russia over the conflict in Georgia.

Posted by: Outraged | Aug 31 2008 14:46 utc | 76

DUTCH PAPER REPORTS U.S. STRIKE vs. IRAN IMMINENT
Just wondered if anyone here knows anything about this:
infowars.com re Dutch paper’s ‘Iran Strike’ story
Seems like the sort of this you all here would have some thoughts on/interest in.

Posted by: schneb | Aug 31 2008 16:15 utc | 77

schneb, Is this one in the same newspaper whom published the controversial and disrespectful Muhammad pictures? If so then, meh..
However, being as our wild George is secretly trying to to make war the powers permanent, anything goes eh?

“Buried in a recent Administration proposal is a sentence that affirms the United States remains in a state of permanent war with al Qaeda and “associated organizations.” If passed by Congress, it could give him and future presidents unrestricted power to continue wiretapping, torture, and detain Americans and ‘enemy combatants’ without charge.”

And that way McBama can say that he didn’t institute the laws, they already existed, he’s just using what is there FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE. As the neo-crusade, and controlled collapse continues.
Change enough for ya?
Too bad, we live in a world where, everyone understands mickey mouse, Few understand Hermann Hesse…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 31 2008 16:53 utc | 78

Lizard, thanks for link @ #72. The info fits the parts I know about, and it’s a lot of info.

Posted by: plushtown | Aug 31 2008 19:22 utc | 79

A little Sunday early evening entertainment for the bar…
andres segovia

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 31 2008 22:01 utc | 80

Dr. Wellington & plushtown: thank you, and you’re welcome.
this synthesis of info has been steadily dropping my jaw. the idea that an entire counter-cultural movement could possibly have its roots in this–for lack of a better term–dark energy vortex, is admittedly pretty out there, but if you can agree with the premise that the hippie counter culture diverted the revolutionary momentum on campuses with students and professors, then maybe you’re willing to follow the author through the disconcerting connections that implicates some very well known names.

Posted by: Lizard | Sep 1 2008 0:00 utc | 81

haven’t been posting much recently on somalia, however this is worth noting
garowe online: New Islamic Court opened in central Somalia

BELETWEIN, Somalia Aug 31 (Garowe Online) – A well-organized event attended by the business community, traditional elders and senior officials of the Islamic Courts movement was held Saturday in Bulo Burte, a district in Hiran region of central Somalia, Radio Garowe reported.
Sheikh Abdirahman Ibrahim, the Islamists’ top leader in Hiran, opened the ceremony by saying that local officials were working to formally establish an Islamic Court in Bulo Burte for the first time since the Ethiopian invasion of December 2006.
“Somalis can overcome their problems only by adopting Islamic Law,” Sheikh Abdirahman said.

Several cases have already been filed with Bulo Burte’s Islamic Court, with Islamist officials saying they will open new courts in “every district” of Hiran region.

Outside of Beletwein, Islamist guerrillas are in control of every town in Hiran region and many other parts of Somalia.

likely that they will regain control of all southern/central somalia w/ the exception of mogadishu for the time being, as that’s the only stronghold for the ethiopian occupiers & it’s uncertain how much longer even that will last, esp w/ meles sending out new public hints that he’s not willing to shoulder the burden under the present terms/payout. the takeover of the port city of kismayo from the warlord barre a couple weeks ago was probably the most visible example of what this resistance is about. it’s like it’s early 2006 all over again.
the ethiopians appear to have closed the rift b/w interim president yusuf & his PM, nur adde, for now, w/ the word being that addis ababa is placing its hopes in the PM’s camp & has lost its patience w/ yusuf & his warlord buddy dheere in mogadishu. what role the u.s. has been playing in the shadows is not clear – very few public comments outside of support for the latest progress in the djibouti agreement b/w the TFG & the breakaway ARS wing. yusuf is still calling the shots, howver, and has moved ahead w/ oil exploration deals w/ the two foreign companies that his previous PM, gedi, had actually initiated & which was the reported source of the dispute b/w those two officials last year, until gedi was forced out by the TFG’s western supporters.
sounds like a rough ramadan for those still inside mogadishu amidst the detoriating conditions and occupation — according to one source, the ethiopians have closed 48 moques in the city proper — though a bit more promising for somali’s elsewhere, in spirit if not subsistence.

Posted by: b real | Sep 1 2008 7:07 utc | 82

other stuff, 9/11 and more, on link @ Lizard’s #72 looks very good too: rational.

Posted by: plushtown | Sep 1 2008 15:56 utc | 83

Le Monde Diplomatique: Zionist nationalist myth of enforced exile – Israel deliberately forgets its history

An Israeli historian suggests the diaspora was the consequence, not of the expulsion of the Hebrews from Palestine, but of proselytising across north Africa, southern Europe and the Middle East
By Schlomo Sand

In short: There is no “jewish people”

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2008 16:10 utc | 84

thanks for the link, b.
i don’t have patience for literalists of any religion, but when it comes to challenging the zionist myth, there are strong institutional deterrents–the anti-defamation league comes instantly to mind–in place to maintain these myths.

Posted by: Lizard | Sep 1 2008 16:46 utc | 85

b In short: There is no “jewish people”
while i thought it was a very informative link (and saved it) i am not sure how you come to this conclusion.
‘proving’ thru historical reconstruction a biological lineage to align w/one’s current political agenda does not erase the existence of followers of a religion. or does it? could you explain what you mean.

Posted by: annie | Sep 1 2008 17:01 utc | 86

while i thought it was a very informative link (and saved it) i am not sure how you come to this conclusion.
‘proving’ thru historical reconstruction a biological lineage to align w/one’s current political agenda does not erase the existence of followers of a religion. or does it? could you explain what you mean.

A people in the sense of “the German people”, “the American people” are defined by a certain bordered region or language. (In German the word is Volk. One could also translate that to nation.)
“Jewish” in that sense is not a people. It is a religion that was proselytized over various people and areas. Like there is no “catholic nation” and no “muslim nation” there is no “jewish nation” or “jewish people”.
Zionist are artificially trying to construct one.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2008 17:16 utc | 87

police state, Minnesota

Posted by: Lizard | Sep 1 2008 18:17 utc | 88

Killings of 5 Afghan children inflame tensions

KABUL, Afghanistan – Foreign and Afghan forces killed five children in two separate incidents Monday, further inflaming tensions in the country over the killings of civilians by troops from the U.S. and other countries.

Two days ago the Germans killed another two at a checkpoint. Before that the U.S. killed 60 children in a raid and still denies it.
Next year the resistance will be the double the size it is now.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2008 18:21 utc | 89

Following on from Ha at 3, this has probably been posted before, but is worth considering again, from Haaretz, 21.08.08:
U.S. won’t sell refueling jets to Israel, fearing strike on Iran

link
plangent side note on a falling thread: Laurel Canyon, yeah I read about that…very complicated.

Posted by: Tangerine | Sep 1 2008 19:23 utc | 90

in the midst of all the insanity, there’s still glimmer of hope:
We Are Hard-Wired to Care and Connect by David Korten

The Story in Our Head
The primary barrier to achieving our common dream is in fact a story that endlessly loops in our heads telling us that a world of peace and sharing is contrary to our nature—a naïve fantasy forever beyond reach. There are many variations, but this is the essence:
It is our human nature to be competitive, individualistic, and materialistic. Our well-being depends on strong leaders with the will to use police and military powers to protect us from one another, and on the competitive forces of a free, unregulated market to channel our individual greed to constructive ends. The competition for survival and dominance—violent and destructive as it may be—is the driving force of evolution. It has been the key to human success since the beginning of time, assures that the most worthy rise to leadership, and ultimately works to the benefit of everyone.
….
Wired to Connect
Scientists who use advanced imaging technology to study brain function report that the human brain is wired to reward caring, cooperation, and service. According to this research, merely thinking about another person experiencing harm triggers the same reaction in our brain as when a mother sees distress in her baby’s face. Conversely, the act of helping another triggers the brain’s pleasure center and benefits our health by boosting our immune system, reducing our heart rate, and preparing us to approach and soothe. Positive emotions like compassion produce similar benefits. By contrast, negative emotions suppress our immune system, increase heart rate, and prepare us to fight or flee.

David Korten is the author of “The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community”, which I think someone here recommended.
This article will give you a good indication of where he is coming from and what he has to offer toward the advent of the breaking through of empire. If it appeals to you I think you will find his book of value. I did and immediately gave it to someone else upon completion to share his insights.

Posted by: Juannie | Sep 1 2008 23:29 utc | 91

We may be ‘Hard-Wired to Care and Connect”, but perhaps, that is why they want to break us down, and disconnect/alienate us…
The Dense Art of Isolationism

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 2 2008 0:39 utc | 92

complete fucking bullshit, uncle. and yet, for many amerikans, the entire idea of protesting has become a cliche. so the fusion center coordinated oinker response got an early start by preemptively raiding houses on flimsy justifications for computers, diaries, and household goods to trump up the fear of domestic terrorists and dissuade people from exercising their constitutionally protected rights? yawn.
over at dissident voice, this article suggests a shift in tactics: target media outlets as sites for protests so they have to pay attention, and avoid terrain where the police state lies waiting. what good will come out of protesting the conventions? will policy be affected, will the greater public be challenged or enlightened? probably not.
regardless, what’s happening in Minneapolis/St. Paul should incite serious rage in the public consciousness, but it won’t. that’s partly because the only interested media are the handful of indies whose audience is solidified, and partly because the public at large won’t really give a shit until it’s their doors being busted open and their children staring down the barrel of a gun.
the most dangerous thing anyone can do is mess with the flow of goods or capital; there’s no quicker path to being branded a domestic terrorist. remember, uncle, those two activists in our quaint little mountain town who roped up to that logging truck while it was at a stop light on the Madison bridge, then repelled over the bridge with their gear? they were held on a 50,000 dollar bond, while that same day, night actually, a man who baited his neighbors with loud music, then opened fire with a 9mm handgun at the house when they shouted at him (no fatalities) made his petty bail and was free the next day.
we should all be disgusted about what’s going down in Minnesota right now, but we won’t be.
not until it’s our houses, our children, our “freedom”

Posted by: Lizard | Sep 2 2008 1:39 utc | 93

Jewish DNA in Zims
Tests have shown that the Lemba possess the “Kohen gene,” extremely rare among non-Jews, in a proportion similar to that of Jews.
whether such findings should have any more significance than where Santa Clause hails from, its notable that it took DNA to prove what the Lemba have always claimed.
The problem is that MOST Western scholars tend to dismiss anyything thats not consistent with what they want to believe. And they have dismissed a massive amount of African related beliefs & facets of history. As they say, the victor writes the histories.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Sep 2 2008 1:45 utc | 94

Oh, the hypocracy of it all, Hookers & blow! GOP parties as Gustav rages… Brian Ross report on the GOP parties in St. Paul as Hurricane Gustav rages through the Gulf Coast. Note: Brian Ross was just ARRESTED AT THE dnc… also,

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 2 2008 2:42 utc | 95

Juannie – I admit to being one who has cited and pointed to Korten in these comments.
Everyone has both divine and demonic tendencies, as Krishna is said to have said, and maybe Amerikkka will learn to spell its name correctly – metaphorically speaking – that is to say, we may get around to living up to the ideals of the Founding Parents, rather than continuing to imitate their behavior.
But the

Posted by: mistah charley, ph.d. | Sep 2 2008 2:50 utc | 96

It was, after all, the captain of a slave ship who wrote the hymn “Amazing Grace”.
Can a brown man become President of the United States? Can Tony-Blair-with-more-melanin use his rhetorical gifts to get us to stop killing foreigners, even if it negatively affects the profits of General Dynamics? Will the MICFiC be betrayed by their man Barry Oreo? Stay tuned. We may be going to hell in a bucket, but it’s a hell of a ride.
And, if they’re listening, may the Creative Forces of the Universe stand beside us, and guide us, through the Night with the Light from Above –
and have mercy on our souls, if any.

Posted by: mistah charley, ph.d. | Sep 2 2008 3:01 utc | 97

Is Google Making Us Stupid?

For me, as for others, the Net is becoming a universal medium, the conduit for most of the information that flows through my eyes and ears and into my mind. The advantages of having immediate access to such an incredibly rich store of information are many, and they’ve been widely described and duly applauded. “The perfect recall of silicon memory,” Wired’s Clive Thompson has written, “can be an enormous boon to thinking.” But that boon comes at a price. As the media theorist Marshall McLuhan pointed out in the 1960s, media are not just passive channels of information. They supply the stuff of thought, but they also shape the process of thought. And what the Net seems to be doing is chipping away my capacity for concentration and contemplation. My mind now expects to take in information the way the Net distributes it: in a swiftly moving stream of particles. Once I was a scuba diver in the sea of words. Now I zip along the surface like a guy on a Jet Ski.
I’m not the only one. When I mention my troubles with reading to friends and acquaintances—literary types, most of them—many say they’re having similar experiences. The more they use the Web, the more they have to fight to stay focused on long pieces of writing.

Never has a communications system played so many roles in our lives—or exerted such broad influence over our thoughts—as the Internet does today. Yet, for all that’s been written about the Net, there’s been little consideration of how, exactly, it’s reprogramming us.

buzzflash interview – Maggie Jackson’s Call for Focus — Fighting Back in an Age of Distraction

What happens if we just pay a little attention to too much information? What if everything comes at us at once and we don’t distinguish between the wheat and the chaff? Boston Globe columnist Maggie Jackson thinks it’s cause for concern. In her latest book, Distracted: The Erosion of Attention and the Coming Dark Age, Jackson warns that an inability to focus is a social problem that requires addressing. She culls through social science research and presents a compelling argument that takes into account everything from neuroscientific breakthroughs to Medieval history. She says it’s time we paid attention to each other and to our inner voices — it’s time we relearn to think deeply by filtering out distractions. It could make us better people and a better society. Can we give it a try?

reader comments for the book aren’t so positive, but the topic is of interest & contextually relevant

Posted by: b real | Sep 2 2008 4:40 utc | 98

schneb, from your linked Iran story:

De Telegraaf reports that the decision has already been made by the U.S. to attack Iran using unmanned aircraft.

I am not an expert by any means on these things, but somehow I doubt that unmanned aircraft can transport the payload needed to do serious damage to Iranian nuclear installations. UAV’s like the Predator or its successor the Reaper generally carry Hellfire missiles, which while extremely damaging to tanks and other armored vehicles, don’t have the punch needed to take out the highly secured Iranian nuclear facilities.
Maybe they fit them with bunker busting mini-nukes, but with UAV’s flying not much faster than 450 km/h they’d be like fish in a barrel for any more or less functioning middle class air force. All in all, I can’t see it happening. Not with 150k troops next door and the Russians cheesed off. It would be suicide.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Sep 2 2008 5:55 utc | 99

b real: yes yes yes. we’ve sacrificed attention for access to vast stores of info, much of it extraneous. McLuhan was a pioneer in the study of how messages are delivered and why delivery systems of information are more important to study than the messages themselves.
thanks of the links.

Posted by: Lizard | Sep 2 2008 6:49 utc | 100