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June 11, 2008
OT 08-22
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Chicago Tribune: What should have been said to AIPAC
This will have quite a backslash
the big problem here is that the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is not really defined. Afghanistan does not recognise the Durand line. What is that old Indian fakir phrase, ‘the friend of my enemy is my enemy’? Posted by: Lai Rouche | Jun 11 2008 19:49 utc | 3 House Vote #401 (Jun 11, 2008) Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 11 2008 20:15 utc | 4 Why Is Bush Helping Saudi Arabia Build Nukes?
Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 11 2008 21:18 utc | 5 Where did all the money go?
There’s lots more at the link. Posted by: jonku | Jun 11 2008 22:00 utc | 6 @U$: Posted by: catlady | Jun 11 2008 22:55 utc | 7 Great Talking Points on Pelosi Posted by: Tiny Pepe | Jun 12 2008 5:52 utc | 8 The Speaker’s excuses are frivolous.The Speaker’s excuses are frivolous.The Speaker’s excuses are frivolous.The Speaker’s excuses are frivolous.
She must be lawfully removed as Speaker. She must be lawfully removed as Speaker. She must be lawfully removed as Speaker. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 12 2008 6:37 utc | 9 Thanks to jonku for the link to Counterpunch. It’s devastating, but probably will fall victim to “outrage fatigue”, and the charge that they are “mere allegations by a disgruntled former employee”. Impeachment is far too mild a response to such crimes, which more than ever underline the crying need to re-dimension the MIS-state and purge its criminal elements. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 12 2008 6:47 utc | 10 The House has voted to send the Articles of Impeachment to the Judiciary Committee. If Conyers starts the ball rolling by allowing hearings to start, there will be investigations, although it’s unknown at what pace they would move. If Pelosi is lawfully removed as Speaker, I owe Uncle a bottle of champagne. If Pelosi is lawfully removed as Speaker, I owe Uncle a bottle of champagne. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 12 2008 7:35 utc | 12 @ b 2 Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 12 2008 7:39 utc | 13
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 12 2008 8:03 utc | 14 @ Hannah K. O’Luthon Posted by: Ensley | Jun 12 2008 12:36 utc | 16 Thanks to Ensley for the link, which, to me, constitutes “strike one”. Meanwhile, if this report from the notorious disinformation site Debka is as reliable as its forecast last year of a rise in the dollar toward parity with the Euro, then we all have reason to worry. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 12 2008 13:04 utc | 17 part of the iran situation goes to their crude being ‘sour’ as opposd to ‘sweet’ that is, high sulfur, which goes to US oil getting much debated subsidies to build low sulfur gas and diesel refining capacity but instaed pocketed the cash for thei executives and investors, even though desulfuring equipment has been available for decades, so a large part of the runup in (sweet) crude was just hedging against having to spend on plant instead to process sour crude, and while you’d think well now they can afford to, it’s just the opposite and the burden falls upstream instead which is why Alberta has to build reconcentrators at huge expense and water demand for their tar sands and why, perhaps, Iran is thinking, well, we have uranium resources, so we can either smog up the joint like China has, or move to nuclear power before the West gains a momopoly on energy that OPEC enjoys today, knowing that the West, unlike the Saudis, would sooner starve Islam to death or enslave them, although ‘the West’ is becoming more of an international Bilderberg conspiracy. Maybe the best way to visualize it, if you had a forest on your property, and cars burned sawdust, wouldn’t you build a sawmill? Posted by: Bill der Berg | Jun 12 2008 15:15 utc | 18 human rights watch documents some of ethiopia’s war crimes in the ogaden in a new rpt out today — Collective Punishment: War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity in the Ogaden area of Ethiopia’s Somali Regional State
Posted by: b real | Jun 12 2008 15:41 utc | 19 A million here, 500,000 there, pretty soon, oh, scratch that, the well of tax payers funded shite is everlasting when it’s not your money funding it!
Also see, DOJ Gives Golf Group $500,000 to Fight Crime Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 12 2008 16:43 utc | 20 HKOL, I couldn’t find your Wayne Madsen link, instead it was to the original Counterpunch article. Posted by: jonku | Jun 12 2008 16:58 utc | 21 I’d take Wayne Madsen with a huge grain of salt… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 12 2008 17:12 utc | 22 michael klare article @ tomdispatch
dilip hiro: To Cope With Oil Shock, Emulate Japan
Posted by: b real | Jun 12 2008 18:55 utc | 23 the excellent media education foundation has just released a documentary film based on klare’s 2004 book
Posted by: b real | Jun 12 2008 19:08 utc | 24 latest michael weinstein analysis on somalia – The West Wins a Pyrrhic Victory in Somalia
weinstein goes on to provide a quick sketch of the west’s role in last 18 months, making it more clear than he ever has of how the west has tried to shape the political situation in somalia. this recent bout of talks in djibouti was the latest effort to divide the opposition. the problem now though, as he correctly points out, is that the u.s. has actually strengthened the insurgency, since the military wing is the one that holds any power at this time and the ahmad/adan faction of the political wing now looks to have basically capitulated to the west/ethiopia. the idea that the u.n. will send troops into somalia so that ethiopia can begin to remove its troops is one most observers & experts do not take seriously. that contingent of the political wing, viewed by the u.s. as the “moderates”, has now been entirely “delegitimized” in the eyes of many, and plays into (the so-called extremist) aweys’ favor. the military wing again is where the real power rests & it has pledged to fight on until the ethiopian occupiers are driven out of somalia.
waiting for more details but, in the meantime, weinstein’s analysis is pretty solid Posted by: b real | Jun 13 2008 4:43 utc | 25 In These Times on U.S. government funding of foreign media: No Strings Attached? – How U.S. funding of the world press corps may be buying influence
@ jonku 21
With regard to darker suspicions, perhaps b can shed some light on this German affair with Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 13 2008 7:42 utc | 27 Tariq Ali in a good long piece on Afghanistan: AFGHANISTAN: MIRAGE OF THE GOOD WAR
@ Hannah K. O’Luthon, jonku, et al… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 13 2008 8:01 utc | 29 @ Uncle Thanks for the link to Constantine’s rant. We all tend to rant in part because of such factors as b‘s link in 26. Trying to decide what’s believable and what isn’t is easy only for those eager to believe what they’re told to believe. In trying to understand the relations between cajoling and coercion, between self-deception and programmatic lying, between good faith and arrant cynicism as steps in the governmental-mediatic tango, I find myself increasingly inclined to give credence to the worst hypothesis at any given moment, knowing full well that a day or a week or a month later I will realize that my notion of “worst” was far, far too charitable. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 13 2008 8:30 utc | 30 Thank you both, for following up with the original link and a refutation. Posted by: jonku | Jun 13 2008 9:17 utc | 31 It’s a big no to the lisbon treaty in Ireland! Votes splitting 60% No 40% yes Posted by: drunk as a rule | Jun 13 2008 10:11 utc | 32
Aye there’s the rub. Posted by: jcairo | Jun 13 2008 18:35 utc | 35 Mukasey: “Fuck SCOTUS!! We don’t agree. The Military Trials will continue!!”
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 13 2008 19:15 utc | 36 click below for news of 58 year old dead guy. Posted by: gus | Jun 13 2008 21:06 utc | 37 b@28: it is absolutely maddening that amerikans are incapable of grasping the concept of TWO unjust wars being fought for the greedfucks who should find themselves, if justice existed for these miscreants, facing the loud end of a rifle in a firing squad. Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 13 2008 23:30 utc | 39 nothing yet gus? well, here’s a little nugget i lifted from the comments section of another thread on another site. I’m pretty sure it came from Huffington, but i’ll check to make sure:
could even the threat of Meet The Press trying to keep the national focus on the big issues be enough to take Russert out? i wouldn’t put any action past ’em. if they can use the false flag mass murdering of thousands of amerikans to kill hundreds of thousands of iraqis, they can take out a pesky little journalist who runs a show once known for asking tough questions. Posted by: Lizard | Jun 14 2008 0:16 utc | 41 what a despicable subspecies journalists are – crowing over their complicity in crimes of the state & calling it courage Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 14 2008 1:49 utc | 43 Tantalus: very appropriate. knew vaguely the plot, but Wiki’s synopsis is great. Posted by: Lizard | Jun 14 2008 2:45 utc | 44 ‘giap: they have become a despicable subspecies because the ones with real integrity and courage couldn’t live with themselves pandering to power like most of ’em do. even the good ones turn eventually if they want to make a living, support family, etc. Posted by: Lizard | Jun 14 2008 5:06 utc | 45 another tidbit from this article has Brian Williams saying some interesting stuff about things that slip from the president’s mouth we’ll never know about. Posted by: Lizard | Jun 14 2008 5:19 utc | 46 The “west” is winning in Afghanistan
The War on Drugs …
ah, drugs. the ghettoes got crack, the boondocks got meth. attention deficit? limp dick? no worries. pain from chemo? better not touch that illicit plant that seems to do everything. also, i heard the darkies and beaners like that shit, so better keep respectable white people away from it. Posted by: Lizard | Jun 14 2008 7:10 utc | 49 Uncle: are you kidding? boobs4iraq? we are deep in the hole and there is no ladder. Posted by: Lizard | Jun 14 2008 7:36 utc | 50 another week where the narrative of ‘success’ (a success that my comrade slothrop also seems to see) has been confronted by the bitter difficulties of reality Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 14 2008 18:08 utc | 52 boobs4barack? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!? WHERE IS ALL OUR HARD WORK AND WEALTH GOING, IF NOT TO US!?
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