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May 05, 2008

Same Old, same old ...

More than a decade after Saddam Hussein agreed to give up weapons of mass destruction, Iraq has stepped up its quest for nuclear weapons and has embarked on a worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb, Bush administration officials said today.
U.S. SAYS HUSSEIN INTENSIFIES QUEST FOR A-BOMB PARTS
By MICHAEL R. GORDON AND JUDITH MILLER
Published: September 8, 2002

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BAGHDAD — Militants from the Lebanese group Hezbollah have been training Iraqi militia fighters at a camp near Tehran, according to American interrogation reports that the United States has supplied to the Iraqi government.

An American official said the account of Hezbollah’s role was provided by four Shiite militia members who were captured in Iraq late last year and questioned separately.
Hezbollah Trains Iraqis in Iran, Officials Say
By MICHAEL R. GORDON
Published: May 5, 2008

Update:

Isn't it a bit embarrassing how this puppet turns on command? We do deserve better propaganda:

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Iraq said on Sunday it has no evidence that Iran was supplying militias engaged in fierce street fighting with security forces in Baghdad.

Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said there was no "hard evidence" of involvement by the neighbouring Shiite government of Iran in backing Shiite militiamen in the embattled country.

Asked about US reports that weapons captured from Shiite fighters bore 2008 markings suggesting Iranian involvement, Dabbagh said: "We don't have that kind of evidence... If there is hard evidence we will defend the country."
Iraq says no hard evidence of Iran support for militia, Sun May 4, 10:43 AM ET

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BAGHDAD, May 4 -- The Iraqi government said Sunday that it has "concrete evidence" Iran is fomenting violence in Iraq and that a high-level panel had been formed to document the proof.
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Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh called reporters late Sunday night to clarify remarks he made at a news conference earlier in the day, when he appeared to say that there was no hard evidence that Iran was allowing weapons to come into Iraq. Dabbagh said his comments had been misinterpreted.

"There is an interference and evidence that they have interfered in Iraqi affairs," Dabbagh said in an interview arranged by a U.S. official. When asked how he would characterize the proof that Iranian weapons are flowing into Iraq, he said: "It is a concrete evidence."
Iraq Says It Has Proof Of Iranian Meddling, WaPo

Posted by b on May 5, 2008 at 7:02 UTC | Permalink

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And the Beat goes on...! Gordon needs to go back to Australia...!

Posted by: CTuttle | May 5 2008 7:09 utc | 1

It gets better:

"We will attack Iran"
Key words from Hillary : "Massive retaliation" "Nuclear Umbrella"
"Totally Obliterate Them" - Hillary on GMA

Youtube video

So we have US politicians tripping over themselves in their pledge to attack Iran if Iran attacks Israel. But when they have proof that Iran is indirectly attacking US troops and Iranian missiles are raining down on the Green Zone there is silence amongst those politicians. In fact the top Commander in the Pentagon announces he would prefer no attack on Iran:

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq would make it difficult to mount any attack on Iran, the Pentagon's top officer said in remarks broadcast on Monday, adding that he would prefer to avoid a new regional war.

"I actually am very hopeful that we don't get into a position where we have to get into a conflict," Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Israel's Channel Ten television when asked if he might recommend that U.S. forces strike Iranian nuclear facilities preemptively.

Top U.S. officer says would prefer no war on Iran

Okay so Iran can fund and arm malitia in Iraq to attack and kill Americans just as long as they don't attack Israel. Got that?

Posted by: Sam | May 5 2008 11:10 utc | 2

Invading Iran and occupying Iran are two different animals. These idiots will never learn. It's easy to destabilize and topple a state. It takes genius and a willing people to rebuild one. And the neocons have plenty of blunt force motivation but seem to share a hind brain between them when it comes to the rebuilding or motivated population parts. They make a desert and call it "Mission Accomplished".

Posted by: diogenes | May 5 2008 12:10 utc | 3

Whenever I think of these war criminal, blood sport, cheerleading motherfuckers, known as Judas Miller and her trusty treacherous sidekick, Michael R. Gordon I think of this article:

It is not known if Iraq has devised an improved warhead. Iraq could also try to disperse the biological agents by using aircraft or unmanned drones. The germs could be dropped in a bomb or sprayed into the air. Finally, and most difficult to defend against, biological agents could be delivered against civilian targets by Iraqi agents.
Erich Fromm referred to these instigators as malignant aggression of the necrophiliac personality.

Which came out about the same times as :

Germs: Biological Weapons and America's Secret War by Judith Miller and Stephen Engelberg and William Broad

For which in turn (the way my mind works at least) brings up this recent article:

US Navy research lab under microscope in Indonesia

AKARTA (AFP) — The future of a major US Navy research laboratory in Indonesia is in doubt amid allegations, dismissed as "crazy" by US diplomats, of espionage and secret experiments.

Negotiations between Washington and Jakarta over the renewal of the operating contract of US Naval Medical Research Unit-2, or Namru-2, have stalled over a range of issues including diplomatic immunity for its US staff.

Established in Indonesia in 1970 and charged with researching infectious diseases of military importance, the facility employs 19 Americans and more than 100 Indonesians and is based in Indonesian health ministry grounds.

Its operations have attracted suspicion from a number of quarters in the world's largest Muslim country, from anti-US religious hardliners to outspoken Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari and Defence Minister Juwono Sudarsono.

"We'll conduct some checks on their presence in Indonesia," Vice President Jusuf Kalla said after Friday prayers last week.
Supari, whose ministry has worked with the US laboratory on projects including malaria research and bird flu early warning systems, has thrown fuel on to the diplomatic fire.

"Until today there have been no significantly useful results for the people (from Namru-2's research)," she said last month.

"Problems with contagious diseases such as malaria and dengue fever are still relatively the same... My people ask me why is there a health laboratory working together with a foreign military?"

In Twain's The Mysterious Stranger Satan (but not Satan) entertains a group of boys by molding a mini civilization of clay people that he inflicts destruction upon. Then the little clay people turn on each other, destroying themselves.

The story was never finished by Twain and there are a couple of versions floating about. It's kind of half-baked but that particular scene is pretty ominous. And that is all these necrophiliacs do is sow seeds of discord, destruction and chaos. They love dead things.


In modern war, one individual can cause the destruction of hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. He could do so by pushing a button; he may not feel the emotional impact of what he is doing, since he does not see, does not know the people whom he kills; it is almost as if his act of pushing the button and their death had no real connection. The same man would probably be incapable of even slapping, not to speak of killing, a helpless person. In the latter case, the concrete situation arouses in him a conscience reaction common to all normal men; in the former, there is no such reaction, because the act and his object are alienated from the doer, his act is not his any more, but has, so to speak, a life and a responsibility of its own.
- Erich Fromm

Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 5 2008 13:18 utc | 4

I don't think the puppet turned, I think the WaPo is lying.

Posted by: Ileana | May 5 2008 16:32 utc | 5

Ileana:

I don't think the puppet turned, I think the WaPo is lying.

I never thought I would have to defend the WaPo:

The AFP and Rueters and The Christian Science Monitor all confirm it

Posted by: Sam | May 5 2008 16:52 utc | 6

What do you know I posted above:

Okay so Iran can fund and arm malitia in Iraq to attack and kill Americans just as long as they don't attack Israel. Got that?

And who shows up on the tube to confirm it but Hillory herself. Roberts asked about her obliterate Iran remarks and she defended them but check out her answer on Iran supplying weapons to kill US troops:

ROBERTS: Another issue regarding Iran, the United States claims that Iran is supplying weapons and training fighters for Shiite militias to be using against American forces in Iraq. In fact, they are now saying that these Iraqi fighters are coming over. They are being trained by Hezbollah outside of Tehran and being shipped back. If indeed it is true that Iran is facilitating the killing of U.S. forces, as president, what would you do about it?

CLINTON: Well, this has been going on for some time. They have been training forces for militias. They have been providing the means to make these horrible explosive devices that have killed and maimed so many of our soldiers.

ROBERTS: But would you attack Iran? Is that a reason to go to war against Iran or at least some sort of attack against them? The killing of U.S. forces?

CLINTON: Well, I think you have to do everything possible within Iraq to try to prevent that from occurring. Nobody wants to go to war with Iran. That is not something that anybody in their right mind is advocating. I have been on record for some time saying that this government, namely our president and vice president need to be reigned in and I have even introduced legislation making it clear that there is no basis for such an action. But we also have to protect not only our own forces, but our Iraqi allies and we've got to get tougher on what they do inside of Iraq.

AMERICAN MORNING

There you have it the troops are expendable just don't touch Israel.

Posted by: Sam | May 5 2008 17:06 utc | 7

Former UN weapons inspector says attack on Iran 'virtual guarantee'
The above is a round up of recent developments. Scott Ritter is only one part of it. Ritter's interview is on Democracy Now, and concerns the 'Syria nuke site' slide show.

Posted by: Alamet | May 5 2008 23:47 utc | 8

http://abumuqawama.blogspot.com/>Dr. iRack points to Walter Pincus' report: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/03/AR2008050301678.html?wpisrc=newsletter>US Army is soliciting for mercenaries to train Iraq Army and to leave behind with Iraq Army as they withdraw.

Posted by: small coke | May 6 2008 0:47 utc | 9

http://arablinks.blogspot.com/2008/05/pinocchio-comes-to-life-we-will-not-be.html>Badger sees a split developing between the Hakim/Supreme Council faction and the Maliki/Dawa faction of the ruling group. Call from Washington went to Hakim. Al Dabbagh speaks for the Maliki faction in attempting to put distance between govt and Washington accusations against Iran.

Laura Rozen refers to ISCI/Badr brigade as http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/007351.html>"Team Cheney Baghdad outlet," without further explanation.

She also cites a commenter at Dr. iRack's post on the Gordon story, who notes:

1) the Gordon piece strikingly doesn't tell us WHICH militia the captured Shiite militants who had trained in Iran belonged to. and 2) noted that the original MEK reports on Iran training Iraq emphasized or focused not only on JAM but on ISCI/Badr Brigades.

Posted by: small coke | May 6 2008 1:03 utc | 10

Fellow Shiites are not the only ones disturbed by the fighting; a delegation from Anbar Province, which is almost entirely Sunni, made the long and dangerous journey to Sadr City on Monday to show solidarity with the poor Shiite community. As American helicopter gunships barraged nearby neighborhoods and people ran inside to take shelter, representatives of influential Sunni tribes, including the Janabi and Hebi, stood shoulder to shoulder with distinguished Shiite tribal leaders in Sadr City.

Ali al-Hebi, 40, said, “The people in Sadr city are like our families, and we are worried about them.”

“We must find a solution for them, and we advise them to not repeat our fault in Falluja,” he added. “The loss of any blood is forbidden, according to our religion as Muslims, and if we do not help them, we will be responsible before history for what will happen here.”
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According to a neighbor, Haider Jassim, the Americans fired four missiles about midnight, and one hit the house next door, killing a family living in the second-floor apartment. All the other apartments in the building were empty, he said.

“The husband worked in construction, and later I saw the flesh of the mother with her two children — a boy 4 years old and a daughter, who was 1 year old,” he added. “She was burned alive with her mother, who was three or four months’ pregnant with their third child. They were a poor family.”

Iran Halts Talks With U.S. on Iraq

Posted by: b | May 6 2008 5:09 utc | 11

http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/05/05/some-pieces-of-the-jigsaw-puzzle/>Roads to Iraq adds to the puzzle with some background on how Iran "feels" about DAWA and SIIC:

[...]After the Iranian revolution, although Islamic Iran kept hosting the leaders of the party but they never trusted the Dawa Party for these reasons 1- It is started and formed in Iraq 2- The previous British and American finger prints behind the party [via the Shah].

The Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council is formed by the Islamic Iran as an organization with main task to convert Iraqi prisoners from Iraq-Iran war to pro-Iran Shiaism [mostly by torture], these converted prisoners later formed a group called “al-Tawaboon” [the people who got forgiveness] and became part of the [SIIC] hit-squads in Iraq after they retured.

Zaid al-Zubaidi adds more in his article today on al-Akhbar, saying:

Practically, there is nothing left from the United Iraqi Alliance except the Supreme Islamic Council, some members of the Dawa Party and small parties who are thinking of going independent… It seems the Supreme Council is in contradiction: They are pushing for further strikes on their rival al-Sadr trend, at the same time, they are distance themselves from being supervised by Iran, and throw these charges on al-Sadr and Mahdi Army in specific, however, it [SIIC] refuses to accuses Iran, albeit timidly…..it is known that Iran is the incubator of [SIIC].
You see from my short history explanation and the al-Akhbar link, the Americans put the Dawa Party back on the 1958’s track, as for the [SIIC], this [SIIC]’s “accusing Iran” hesitation mood mentioned in the above article is changed as [Missing Link] pointed out here after intensive contacts with the Americans.

This would seem to confirm Badgers take that Maliki is pissed at Hakim/Badr for stealing his thunder, or in lacking a deeper trust by Iran (still struggling with the tiny dancer syndrome I guess) fails to seal a deal. Which further, isolates al-Hakim/Badr in the unique position of having a direct line to both Dick Cheney and Iran and capable of negotiating the finer points of the parallel interests of both Washington and Tehran. As Dr.iRack points out today, Iran, after the Basra cease fire, Iran offered to widen talks with Washington, but were turned down - and now that Iran has cut off negotiations as a result of the current "Iranian weapons" issue, the U.S. cut negotiations before Iran did. Not that that this matters much, because the Iranian position now left on hold, is that they will not resume talks until the U.S. (& presumably Maliki) stops the assault on Sadr City. How fucking convenient I say. Iran looks like it cares about Sadr City, and the U.S. by stopping operations looks like its caving in to Iranian demands. So the war on Sadr City must go on - which pleases everyone, especially al-Hakim, who probably fixed the whole thing.

Posted by: anna missed | May 6 2008 8:17 utc | 12

b#11'

Its another good sign the Anbar tribes went to Sadr City, next time maybe they'll bring the AK's with them, because surely they see the tectonic endgame plates in motion. Without Sadr, Iraq is destined to permanent client state status - either or.

Posted by: anna missed | May 6 2008 9:13 utc | 13

The result of Gordon's "reporting" in a WaPo piece today:

The New York Times reported Monday that interrogations had yielded information about the training in Iran.

Gordon and the NYT didn't "report". They took anonymous government statements, wrote those down and printed them.

But obviously, the echochamber works.

Posted by: b | May 6 2008 16:18 utc | 14

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