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May 20, 2008
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Christopher Ketchum in Radar: The Last Roundup – Is the government compiling a secret list of citizens to detain under martial law?
Best guess – sure it is … 😉 Posted by: annie | May 20 2008 5:40 utc | 3 serious dumpster diving Posted by: annie | May 20 2008 5:55 utc | 4 i think it was through Uncle i found the last roundup, and it’s not a pleasant read. Naomi Klein’s rolling stone article about China’s all-seeing eye is also worth reading (sorry i can’t find the link) Posted by: Lizard | May 20 2008 6:35 utc | 5 CBOT Commodity Traders Open New Human Slavery Bourse Posted by: Tiny Pepe | May 20 2008 15:08 utc | 7 Credit Crisis Will Extend Into 2009, Oppenheimer Says
Cutting credit in a saving-less society by half cuts consumption by how much? Sons of Iraq Or Baghdad’s Soprano’s?
What a great reason to join the Army; go to Iraq and perform muscle work for some anonymous local thug. Sure sounds like freedom on the march to me. Not only are contractors being turned into soldiers, but it looks like soldiers are being turned into contractors. Posted by: anna missed | May 20 2008 18:36 utc | 9 it will be interesting to see how berlusconi will deal with the situation in naples – when he is a partner & a benificiary of the cammora Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 20 2008 18:49 utc | 10 A funny joke: Posted by: OtherRouser | May 20 2008 19:34 utc | 12 re #12 – same symbolic crap conyers & the dems passed last yr
Posted by: b real | May 20 2008 20:11 utc | 13 ‘Question to the Oracle’ Posted by: Cloud | May 20 2008 20:22 utc | 14 ‘Big Brother’ database for phones and e-mails
Posted by: dan of steele | May 20 2008 21:18 utc | 15 it is unbearable to see what iust happening in south africa Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 20 2008 23:14 utc | 16 @remembering #16 Posted by: DeAnander | May 20 2008 23:44 utc | 17 @16, Posted by: jony_b_cool | May 20 2008 23:51 utc | 18 and cheers once again to Obama for keeping it real in the face of all that the totally crass, craven, grace-less She who would be president has thrown at him. I actually once admired her and today resent myself for it. It seems the Repugs were right all along about She who would do anything to get what She wants. Posted by: jony_b_cool | May 21 2008 0:39 utc | 19 Interesting that Whitney sees credit lines going away. That’s even worse than if credit lines were frozen or reduced. Fewer lines means lots of accounts going into collection, accruing no interest at all – probably a disproportionately large number of small accounts. Margin declines and rates rise to compensate. The collection industry burgeons and preys on smaller or disputed debts, terrorizing more and more consumers. Posted by: …—… | May 21 2008 1:46 utc | 20 on the topic of addicts
from defense news
and they’re worried that they might not have enough “walking around money” for extracurricular activities…
CERP was initially funded w/ the cash stolen from ba’athist party vaults after the invasion of baghdad – rather than return the money to the iraqi people, bremer created CERP and gave the (iraqi people’s) money to u.s. commanders to spend however they deemed appropriate in winning/greasing/bribing iraqi heart & minds. (and fixing/protecting the nation’s oil infrastructure at the same time!) Posted by: b real | May 21 2008 3:53 utc | 21 “And just today I found some curious support for that position when one of the TV networks released an analysis done by — of all people — Karl Rove saying that I was the stronger candidate. Somebody got a hold of his analysis and there it is.” Posted by: Tiny Pepe | May 21 2008 4:19 utc | 22 Considering that CERP has never been audited, and a cursory examination of open contracts in Aghanistan amounts to little over 3% of CERPs request, while Iraq is Posted by: Terrence Michaels | May 21 2008 4:33 utc | 23 @ 14 — Cloud, I’m a bit of a poetry nerd — where does “question to the oracle” come from? Posted by: Anonymous | May 21 2008 5:01 utc | 24 bwahh twice for me, annie, when bread goes for $15 a Posted by: Sulaman Shah | May 21 2008 5:02 utc | 25 To note: Tehran Urges New Round Of Talks
The U.S. of course does not want to talk. Sulaman Sulaman Sulaman ! Posted by: annie | May 21 2008 7:38 utc | 27 #22 Tiny Pepe: accurate and colorful (ist day is great!), except that at this point there are no gambles, only purchases. Posted by: Anonymous | May 21 2008 13:45 utc | 29 re b #1 chinahand link: thanks. didn’t know site before (I’ve missed a lot of posts, only rarely catch all in a given week) have put a version of below here before, but this is from forum site of Jon Ronson (of titles Them and Men Who Stare at Goats, contractd at Cannes to be a George Clooney movie) plushtown: i think if we don’t entertain the idea that one of the major goals of the global elite is massive depopulation, we miss the scope of what is happening. unfortunately Bizarro land is an uncomfortable realm to explore for most people. even though Tesla’s breakthroughs aren’t conspiracies, and HAARP’s ability to manipulate the ionosphere is no fantasy, these are just a few of the dots that connect to a meta-reality of conspiratorial omnipresence the global elite hope we swallow hook, line, and sinker. Posted by: Anonymous | May 21 2008 15:50 utc | 33 #33, arrow: fish/swallow part ambiguous, also want links/google words for more dots. Pointillism may result. Posted by: plushtown | May 21 2008 17:46 utc | 34 (via secrecy news blog) 2008 Defense Intelligence Strategy
no time to digest the doc now, but
Posted by: b real | May 21 2008 19:39 utc | 35 the pieces for a story i mentioned back in april finally come together
april 30: Somalia’s leader approves controversial Puntland oil project
may 20: Canada’s Africa Oil starts Somalia seismic survey
may 20: Oil firms recruit private militia for Puntland exploration
Posted by: b real | May 21 2008 22:00 utc | 36 @annie at #27: Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | May 21 2008 22:26 utc | 37 To breal, Posted by: Anonymous | May 21 2008 23:01 utc | 38 amazing stuff breal @36. thanks again for sharing your research here. Posted by: dan of steele | May 21 2008 23:29 utc | 39 @38
from may 1st
that’s what the private militia are for. as the wikipedia article says,
they’ve been driven out by the inhabitants of the area in the past. expect to see range PR referring to the locals as terrorists now. Posted by: b real | May 22 2008 4:24 utc | 40 “and cheers once again to Obama for keeping it real ” Posted by: ran | May 22 2008 4:51 utc | 41 at least in South Korea they’ll pretend to give a shit what their citizens think: (while still actually not giving a shit what their citizens think)
Posted by: ran | May 22 2008 5:50 utc | 42 The following two links need not be swallowed whole to be interesting, and this one leaves me wondering about “ER” ‘s particular virtues and vices. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | May 22 2008 7:48 utc | 43
Posted by: annie | May 22 2008 7:58 utc | 44 @44 funny and in reality they’d be feasting on that baby Posted by: jcairo | May 22 2008 8:17 utc | 45 Dr. Wellington Plenty of trout, berries, and miner’s lettuce and wild onions. Posted by: annie | May 22 2008 9:03 utc | 46 in #31 I misspoke and truncated,in a hurry.Should be: #45 annie, #45 jcairo, yes. via cryptome Posted by: b real | May 22 2008 18:16 utc | 50 garowe: Feud erupts inside Puntland Cabinet’s weekly meeting
no doubt a similar agreement exists w/ the u.s.
maybe they didn’t see this rpt from monday
Posted by: b real | May 22 2008 18:52 utc | 51 Only in America can we trivialize and discount education to the point of irrelevancy by giving Dog’s university degree’s . Sure makes me feel good about my 42k worthless degree. Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 22 2008 18:58 utc | 52 this one’s for you beq Posted by: annie | May 22 2008 19:59 utc | 54 @Uncle$/52:
btw, tomorrow is 5/23, on a Friday, no less. Hot dogs and beer all around, for the High Holy Day. Hail Eris! Posted by: catlady | May 23 2008 0:10 utc | 56 plushtown (48), Posted by: a swedish kind of death | May 23 2008 0:17 utc | 58 #58, skd, the important part is the sliding precipitated by earthquakes stimulated (or no longer suppressed) by lightening ice. Thanks for looking, saying something. Curtailment of fossil fuel use will come automatically with culling of the herd. reuters: Arms reach Somali warlords despite UN sanctions
remember that AMISOM has been based at the port in mogadishu for the duration of their deployment Posted by: b real | May 23 2008 3:58 utc | 60 Spending On Iraq Poorly Tracked – Audit Faults Accounting for $15 Billion in Work
Thanks again to b real @ 60. At least we can now discount use of the Victor Bout cover story to explain the arms trafficking. Being in unblissful ignorance on the matter, I don’t know whether the usual (western intelligence agency) suspects are sponsoring the arms dealers while playing both sides against the middle, or if it’s just a natural outcome of having fomented a civil war with its consequent “demand” for weapons being met by the “magic of the free market” (in arms). Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | May 23 2008 6:16 utc | 62 “Game on.”
@ b real I caught an interview with Isaias Afewerki, the Eritrean ras,, last night on Al Jazeera. It was an interesting performance on both sides. I’m wondering what, if anything, you know about him and his sources of power. He certainly didn’t seem unduly concerned about paying homage to occidental icons, yet, IIRC, there’s an NSA listening post in the Dahlak archipelago, somewhere around the old Soviet Union base built there, now perhaps also being used by Israeli submarines. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | May 23 2008 7:16 utc | 64 @ b 61 Posted by: Alex | May 23 2008 8:10 utc | 65 re Posted by: Alex | May 23 2008 8:28 utc | 66 On Isaias Afewerki, I have some comments. Posted by: a swedish kind of death | May 23 2008 12:48 utc | 67 hkol- Posted by: b real | May 23 2008 15:52 utc | 68 Thanks to both skod and b real for your comments, which,
found here. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | May 23 2008 16:33 utc | 69 hkol Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 23 2008 18:21 utc | 70 i’m guessing this is that al jazeera interview – Riz Khan – Isaias Afwerki – 22 May 08 Posted by: b real | May 23 2008 18:48 utc | 71 Israel Arrests Outspoken Academic Norman Finkelstein
. Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 23 2008 21:47 utc | 73 AHHHHHH!!! Posted by: Lizard | May 24 2008 0:31 utc | 75 Ooops, I Did It Again! Posted by: Elliot Lemiux | May 24 2008 1:46 utc | 76 more on the un peacekeeper scandal
that article, by the dismissed “deputy chief investigator with the United Nations Office of Internal Oversight Services in Congo”
the inner city press blog has more info & links as he’s been right on top of the story. [i linked to some of those sources in an april comment here] Posted by: b real | May 24 2008 3:47 utc | 77 Regarding Uncle $cam Post 73 (Finkelstein’s arrest), does anyone on this blog know about Public Law 108-332? The U.S. Congress passed the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act of 2004 and on October 16, 2004, President George W. Bush signed the legislation into law (Public Law 108-332). Posted by: Parviz | May 24 2008 11:45 utc | 78 Parviz, Posted by: dan of steele | May 24 2008 13:05 utc | 79 massive mznofestations here against the cuts in education. in my town it is absolutely raining torrentially & still this is an enormous movement of cadre, teachers parents & students Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 24 2008 13:43 utc | 80 Why was my thread removed? Have I been banned from this Blog? I simply asked whether anyone in this Blog has ever read the most racist and totalitarian piece of legislation ever passed by the U.S. Congress, namely, the Anti-Semitism Law in which the U.S. State Department lists the following set of beliefs as anti-Semitic”: Posted by: Parviz | May 24 2008 15:02 utc | 81 Sorry, everyone, it suddenly re-appeared. B, please delete the duplicate. Posted by: Parviz | May 24 2008 15:04 utc | 82 parvis, the ‘law’ is defined “Pub.L. 108-332 To require a report on acts of anti-Semitism around the world. NOTE: Oct. 16, 2004 – [S. 2292]” Posted by: annie | May 24 2008 16:18 utc | 84 Parviz, I realize I am not the brightest bulb around here but I did link the public law from the congressional website. Posted by: dan of steele | May 24 2008 17:42 utc | 87 “Orientalism” and its Discontents Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 24 2008 20:48 utc | 89 dos Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 24 2008 21:44 utc | 90 just a few hours ago while discussing Hilary’s RFK assassination statement (mis-speak or fatigue-gaffe or freudian slip or subliminal interest/wish or whatever …), a friend referred to her as “Dan Qualye with breasts”. Posted by: jony_b_cool | May 24 2008 22:04 utc | 91 U. Utah Phillips, Wobbly folk singer, has died. Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 25 2008 0:34 utc | 93 Oddly my favorite Utah Phillips song was always Going Away. Guess he finally did. R.I.P. brother U. Posted by: anna missed | May 25 2008 1:40 utc | 94 dos Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 25 2008 2:00 utc | 95 uncle scam, Posted by: denk | May 25 2008 2:49 utc | 96 this will be interesting to see how the u.s. govt responds, seeing as how they complain about the “pirate” attacks that have multiplied since they installed the TFG to power
one of the reasons that the islamic courts union gained so much traction in early 2006 was b/c their militias rid the country of illegal roadblocks, banished the bandits, waylayed the warlords, and punished the pirates so that somalia actually stabilized for the first time in more than a decade.
on friday, the pirates collected a ransom & released the ship
iran’s press tv reports ICU fighters kill nine pirates in Hobyo
a saturday article at garowe online reports that
the press tv article also added
Posted by: b real | May 25 2008 4:47 utc | 97 happy africa liberation day!
Posted by: b real | May 25 2008 5:12 utc | 98 thanks uncle for posting about Utah. i am at a little loss for words. he was such a great story teller. there’s so much to say about him. i lived in nevada city for a few years so my appreciation of him stems from my impression of what an intregral part of the local community he was. Posted by: annie | May 25 2008 5:52 utc | 99 Uncle@93: Utah Phillips will be missed. thankfully we have recordings of his stories, because that fiery curmudgeon of the working class knew damn well how important the oral tradition is and always will be. the official history of amerika, as spun from text books, is worse than a pile of shit. at least shit can fertilize the ground so something new can grow.
Posted by: Lizard | May 25 2008 6:17 utc | 100 |
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