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April 23, 2008
Who is fighting Sadr?

The current official Information Operation campaign on Iraq tells us that Maliki and the Iraqi army are fighting criminals in Basra, Sadr city and elsewhere.

A TIME piece gives some doubts:

[A]t least one American soldier said he was angry that the role of Iraqi troops was exaggerated after the battle. "A gunfight broke out and we were fighting [the Mahdi Army] for about four hours," the soldier told TIME. "The army article made it sound like we were just there supporting the Iraqi Army, but we did all the work. We just had four humvees out there with some Iraqi [troops]."

The BBC adds:

US and UK special forces are carrying out operations in Basra in southern Iraq against Shia militiamen, a Western military source has told the BBC.

Basra was the scene of intense fighting some three weeks ago, after Iraqi forces made an attempt to disarm militias operating in the city.

At that time, the BBC understands that 550 US troops embedded with the Iraqi army also joined in the battle.


There are understood to be about 150 British troops from the Royal Regiment of Scotland embedded with Iraqi units in Basra.

Some are mentoring Iraqi soldiers while others are protecting local personnel engaged in combat operations.

U.S. and British soldiers "protecting local personnel engaged in combat." Now that is a fine expression for "covering their ass." But are they really doing that? To me this sounds more like the U.S.u.k. is taking the lead in all of this:

The United States army on Wednesday said its forces killed 15 gunmen overnight in the capital, Baghdad.

"Multi-National Division – Baghdad Soldiers engaged and killed 15 criminals in separate engagements in Baghdad April 22," read a U.S. army statement quoted by the voices of Iraq (VOI).

All the talk of the "Iraqi army is taking on Sadr" seems to be at least exaggerated.

The real tale might be more along this line.

Cheney came to Baghdad because some success was needed before the Petraeus/Crocker  testimony in Congress. He ordered the "they stand up, so we can stand down" assault on Basra.

That went wrong when the Sadr resistance was more powerful than expected and the Badr militia in Iraqi army uniforms cracked even though U.S. troops were embedded with them.

This was blamed on the puppet. "Maliki ordered this and didn’t inform us." Bullshit – 550 embeds and the U.S. didn’t know? For lack of intelligence, the U.S. had miscalculated.

But with that fight failed any draw back would have been seen as a U.S. defeat so this had to be carried through. So the U.S. started to bomb and shoot its way into Basra and Sadr city.

The problem now is to hold that space. With at the same time increased AQI action in Anbar and the "surge" draw down there ain’t enough troops to cover those places.

The answer is bombing. Here is a raw movie of a U.S. air attack on some car in Sadr city.

But what about those kids on the stretchers? Hearts and minds?

Comments

what we are seeing is a scorched earth policy – first systemetised by the nazis but then used by u s forces as standard operating procedure wherever they are defeated
it is u s force & u s force alone which is the determining factor – its puppets whether they are british or iraqi – are completely secondary. clearly the pretentious petreaus has left his sophisticated textbooks & returned to the strategy of brutes & like all brute power it may succeed in the first instance because what are a people, any people to do in the face of a massive wave of slaughter – but in the last analysis brute force has always led to collosal & decisive defeat

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 23 2008 18:47 utc | 1

Patraeus, Commander of the Legions in the Euphrates, is now Commander of the Empire in wide swath of the Middle East, Africa and Asia, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates announced Wednesday.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Apr 23 2008 19:06 utc | 2

b, I think you must be wrong – because look what is going to open in Baghdad.
‘Disneyland’ comes to Baghdad with multi-million pound entertainment park – Times Online

Llewellyn Werner, a California investor, admits he is facing obstacles most amusement park developers never have to deal with. Such as insurgent attacks and looting.

But when the amusement park you’re building lies in downtown Baghdad, those risks come with the territory.

Mr Werner, chairman of C3, a Los Angeles-based holding company for private equity firms, is pouring millions of dollars into developing The Baghdad Zoo and Entertainment Experience, a massive American-style amusement park that will feature a skateboard park, rides, a concert theatre and a museum. It is being designed by the same firm that developed Disneyland.

“The people of Iraq need this kind of positive influence. It’s going to have a huge psychological impact,” Mr Werner said.

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 23 2008 19:44 utc | 3

Ooops, 3 was me! 🙂

Posted by: Fran | Apr 23 2008 19:51 utc | 4

fran
no doubt about it – they are out of their fucking cotton pickin’ minds

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 23 2008 20:10 utc | 5

very interesting points made @ shadowed forest concerning a completely different hypothesis from gareth porter @ asia online..

What Petraeus, the US commander in Iraq, did not reveal is that
Maliki was deliberately upsetting a Petraeus plan to put US and British forces into Basra for a months-long operation to eliminate the Mahdi Army from the city.

saving basra at the expense of sadr city? a little more complicated than that, i recommend both the links.

This summer in Iraq is not just going to be hot but filled with surprises…with ominous implications for the far more important conflict between Tel Aviv and Tehran.

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 23 2008 20:21 utc | 6

The stay out of jail card has John McCain’s name on it. Corporate Media has to be able to sell the perception of peace and progress in Bagdad. The mortar sites in Sadr City currently zeroed in on the Green Zone will be bombed flat by July.
Note: Hillary Clinton has drunk the neo-conservative elixir that Iran is the existential enemy that deserves to be nuked not negotiated with.
Initiating a Middle East nuclear war would be the second get out of jail card. There would be no jail left.

Posted by: VietnamVet | Apr 23 2008 20:35 utc | 7

Fran @ 3,
The level of delusion and disconnect displayed in that article is astounding.

“I think people will embrace it. They’ll see it as an opportunity for their children regardless if they’re Shia or Sunni. They’ll say their kids deserve a place to play and they’ll leave it alone.”

Good luck with that.

Ali al-Dabbagh, a spokesman for the Government, is equally optimistic: “There is a shortage of entertainment in the city. Cinemas can’t open. Playgrounds can’t open.”

And the amusement park would be different why?

Mr al-Dabbagh added that entry to the park would be strictly controlled.

No doubt, but by whom?
Inevitable headline this summer: “Iraqi Disneyland mortared repeatedly by insurgents; Investors surprised, seek assurances from mayor of Baghdad, Coalition forces”

A $1 million skateboard park, the first phase of the development, will open in July. Parts for 200,000 skateboards and materials to build ramps will be shipped from America to Iraq for assembly at state-owned factories and distributed free to Iraqi children along with helmets and knee pads.

Next headline: “US forces grapple with losses from new insurgent tactic: ‘skate bombs'”
I need a drink.

Posted by: Eminence Grise | Apr 23 2008 21:33 utc | 8

I can’t help myself:

“There are all sorts of investment opportunities all over Iraq. But it’s not just hydrocarbons. Half the Iraqi population is under the age of 15. These kids really need something to do,” Mr Brinkley said.

I suspect many of them have already found something to do, and it ain’t skateboarding…

Posted by: Eminence Grise | Apr 23 2008 21:42 utc | 9

Latest Gareth Porter:
Petraeus Promotion Frees Cheney to Threaten Iran

WASHINGTON, Apr 23 (IPS) – The nomination of Gen. David Petraeus to be the new head of the Central Command not only ensures that he will be available to defend the George W. Bush administration’s policies toward Iran and Iraq at least through the end of Bush’s term and possibly even beyond.
It also gives Vice President Dick Cheney greater freedom of action to exploit the option of an air attack against Iran during the administration’s final months.
Petraeus will take up the CENTCOM post in late summer or early fall, according to Defence Secretary Robert Gates.
(snip)

Personally, I don’t think hot war is imminent. But their plans must be calling for an aggressive sanctions regime to be put in place before long, and I guess a relatively ‘peaceable’ CentCom Chief wasn’t very helpful in that regard.

Posted by: Alamet | Apr 23 2008 21:51 utc | 10

Ahh… darn!!
Possible Izzat Al-Douri arrest

BAGHDAD, April 23 (KUNA) — The US army has no operational reports on the arrest of former Iraqi vice-president Ezzat al-Douri, US army media advisor Abdellatif al-Rayan said here Wednesday.
Speaking to Kuwait News Agency (KUNA), al-Rayan said the arrest report was now under investigation.
Earlier in the day, Hassan al-Sanid, an Iraqi member of parliament, said US forces had handed over a captured suspect to Iraqi forces, who was believed to be al-Douri due to resemblance.
The suspect is now undergoing DNA tests in a bid to make sure if he is really the former Iraqi official, he told KUNA.
Iraqi security sources had told KUNA that joint US and Iraqi forces had picked up Ezzat al-Douri in a snatch manhunt.
(snip)

I can only hope it is not true… A bit more from Roads to Iraq here.

Posted by: Alamet | Apr 23 2008 22:12 utc | 11

alamet
the leadership of the resistance in iraq is cominf rom the people, from the wide circles of the people – as all resistances have proved – the death of their ‘leaders’ only engages the people further – no one man or woman is indispensable – in the situation of iraq – because of the contours of the resistance – it is even more true. each day creates a new leadership & a stronger cadre

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 23 2008 22:40 utc | 12

So good to see you Fran, pull up a chair and order your pleasure, drinks on me! 😉
Also, a lot of the regulars at Jeff wells place, believe The Disney corp is full on CIA, NSA, etc, and I must say they have and make very good arguments to that end. So, a amusement theme park would be a grand experiment in immersed psyop .
National Security Agency Hires New Associate Director for Research

…..
Dr. Haseltine brings more than 23 years of private-industry experience to NSA/CSS, most recently serving as the Executive Vice President, Research and Development at Walt Disney Imagineering in California. Prior to over 10 years at Walt Disney Engineering working in various research and development senior leadership positions, Dr. Haseltine was employed by Hughes Aircraft as their Director of Engineering.

Dr. Eric Haseltine is a neuroscientist and executive who used to work for Disney. Dr. Haseltine is also the creator of the push for the program of and website of, CIA for kids

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 23 2008 23:37 utc | 13

Addendum:
Disney, NSA, Madison Avenue, DARPA, Pentagon…all the same folks at a certain level synthesizing surveillance and social engineering.
Disney has been a major force in US government propaganda since World War II and especially afterwards due in no small part to the extreme right wing attitudes of its namesake and founder who had to make nothing but war propaganda and training films during WWII when the Office of War Information took Disney over and OWI’s Bureau of Motion Pictures rewrote Hollywood scripts for the war effort.
Disney, along with Hollywood, remained a government asset when World War II was over serving to create the militarized personalities wanted in America’s children by the National inSecurity State using:
* gender role-modeling
* stereotypes
* linguistics
* memory neuroscience
* and anthropomorphism (cute animals).
Documentation on Early Cold War
U.S. Propaganda Activities in the Middle East

Document 4: United States Embassy, Iran Cable from Edward C. Wells to the Department of State. “Motion Pictures–The Film Two Cities,” May 16, 1950.
Source: National Archives. Record Group 59. Records of the Department of State. Decimal Files, 1950-1954.
Suggests Walt Disney might help out with propaganda.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 23 2008 23:43 utc | 14

I think you’re probably right about the intelligence b, as there were many pre-operation reports that the Mehdi army had been degraded by splintering. I think their plan is to cantonize/Gaza Sadr City as a means to control it and attempt to discredit Sadr through collective punishment of his support base.
The image in my head all day today, was of Baghdad as a carbon copy of Warsaw, as depicted in film The Pianist.

Posted by: anna missed | Apr 24 2008 2:35 utc | 15

@6 – I read that Gareth Porter piece and find no substance for his theory.

Posted by: b | Apr 24 2008 4:05 utc | 16

b:
I read that Gareth Porter piece and find no substance for his theory.M/i>
Yeah, here’s the kicker from his article:

Nevertheless, when Maliki told him the decision to launch an operation in Basra had already been made and that it would begin in three days, Petraeus agreed to support it.

So his theory is that Maliki is Commander In Chief of US forces in Iraq and Petraeus is just there to support him. You got to drink a lot of kool-aid to buy that one.

Posted by: Sam | Apr 24 2008 5:36 utc | 17

Grrrr sorry
b:
I read that Gareth Porter piece and find no substance for his theory.
Yeah, here’s the kicker from his article:

Nevertheless, when Maliki told him the decision to launch an operation in Basra had already been made and that it would begin in three days, Petraeus agreed to support it.

So his theory is that Maliki is Commander In Chief of US forces in Iraq and Petraeus is just there to support him. You got to drink a lot of kool-aid to buy that one.

Posted by: Sam | Apr 24 2008 5:37 utc | 18

I think that this current round of “whack-a-Mehdi” is related to the imminent drawdown of the “surge” brigades, which is supposed to be completed by the end of July. I suspect it would be politically very difficult for Bush to extend the 15-month tours a further 3 months, and I suspect that Gates/JCS would kick back hard against this.
Basically, the current action is last chance saloon time for the US to degrade the Sadrist militias, as it won’t have the manpower to do this later in the year. Now, I doubt that Petraeus et al are really so dumb as to think that they can win any kind of long-term victory in this, but they do at least get to kick the can down the road….again.
Sadr played his hand very well last Autumn by going into ceasefire mode.
It’s interesting to plough through the centcom press releases as well – up until about 4 weeks ago there was a standard line of “praise” for the “sayyid” and the Sadrist stand-down. The PR stance has, natch, changed tack since.

Posted by: dan | Apr 24 2008 11:27 utc | 19

am
its exactly what was done in warsaw – from the ghettoisation, collective punishmments & finally liquidation – the path to extermination, clear

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 24 2008 15:41 utc | 20

Now that I’ve lifted my jaw back up into place (rather like Marley’s ghost)…
They are trying to make Iraq over in the image of its conqueror. The theme park is the contemporary equivalent of building an arena and putting up a couple of statues of Caesar: imposing the formalistic imprint of the “master culture” on the subjugated nation.
The Brits imposed cricket, heavy wood/brick architecture, and utterly inappropriate clothing all over their colonial possessions, back in the day. Ever seen a dog piddle on a post, marking its territory? All same.

Posted by: DeAnander | Apr 24 2008 16:45 utc | 21