Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 14, 2008
The Yoo Play – Which isn’t about Yoo

”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
Without a Doubt, Ron Susking, NYT, Oct. 14, 2004

Emptywheel dissects a Bush statement and finds:

Bush does not say, "torture is illegal, but we do not torture, therefore we are working with the law." He flips the whole question around, as Yoo did. He basically states that anything the executive does to fulfill its obligation to protect the American people is–because it is done in the name of protecting the American people–within the law. The rationale for these activities–protecting the American people–and not the nature of the activities themselves, is what makes them legal, according to Bush.

She is right and one could rewrite the above quote into:

”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own law. And while you’re studying that law — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new laws, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

That’s the situation we are at.

The folks at the judical blog Balkinization are tearing at their hair about Yoo’s tenure status.

As Glenn aptly expresses, that is not the way to go:

As a country, then, our democratic institutions — without much outcry — literally amended the War Crimes Act, retroactively, to declare that those who violated it, those who committed war crimes, would be free from investigation or prosecution. The Abu Ghraib scandal was disclosed in early 2004 and George Bush was re-elected. Accounts of systematic abuse at Guantanamo and elsewhere were known before then as well.

Directing moral outrage uniquely at John Yoo and demanding that he be removed from Berkeley, while highly understandable in one sense, poses the danger that this broader responsibility will be obscured and that real accountability need not take place.

Unfortunately, it is very unlikely that any real accountability will happen. Additionally to the congressional WCA, Bush will give a presidential amnesty to all his aids before he leaves and will not be touched himself by his successor. The people who voted for him will – what?

Bush admitted that he approved the meetings of his principals, chaired by Condi Rice, during which the CIA demonstrated torture techniques and the principals decided on individual combination of these to be administered to this or that Afghan goatherder who was sold for cash by rivaling neighbors or tribes to the U.S. occupiers in Afghanistan.

Nothing will be done about that.

But there are other ways to work with collective guilt.

I am thinking of a play here.

On the stage you see actors in four rooms on two floors.

The lower floor is a ghastly basement, the upper one a quite noble business area.

On the lower floor to the left, a bigger room with prison cells and with prisoners in orange jump suits in various positions and guards in camouflage uniforms – to the right a smaller, sober military office, with a high ranking military officer with lots of decorations sitting behind his desk. There is door between those rooms and constantly soldiers pass back and forth to ask for and report on fulfilled orders. Prisoners under hoods also pass back and forth under guard to receive their judgement by this officer.

On the upper floor to the left there is a smaller presidential office with a President doing daily business – greeting victorious football teams, subaltern congress members and self-serving foreign dignitaries with lot of laughs, silly jokes and smalltalk. To the right the serious principal’s conference room. There is door between those too.

There is also a hatch between the lower left dungeon and the upper right conference room.

Additonal to this stage setting of these four rooms there are big TV screen on the left and on the right side of the stage. These constantly play Fox News segments on various missing white, young women.

During the play you will see continuous action in all four rooms. Various kinds of torture in the lower left, sustained military diligence in the lower right, greetings and laughter in the upper left and somber evaluations in the upper right.

But the only sound you will hear is from that upper right conference room. Acting in all other rooms is expressive, but without sound. In the conference room there is serious talk about goatkeeper 451:

CONDI: We need to decide this right now.

RUMMY: Let’s just fuck him in the ass ’til he bleads.

TENET: No way! If that is combined with electrocution it really would be dangerous for our own guys. How about screwing his children instead?

The discussion stops and Condi leaves to the left to ask her husband boss. She comes back.

CONDI: Fine with him.

POWELL: Fine with me too – less hair around, more fun.

ASHCROFT: Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly.

POWELL: Fuck yourself then.


The hatch opens and a cloaked person comes up the ladder from the lower level.

AGENT: Do we really have approval to rip nails and kidneys simultaneously?

TENET: I’m not sure how that will eventually play on TV.

Agent pulls out a tape

AGENT: May I show you?

RICE: The boss thinks it’s a fine combination and he already said so last week. Why do you bother us again on this. Just get it done.

AGENT: Okay.

RICE: Leave that tape here. Dick really enjoys these.

Cloaked person goes down, steps into the military office and passes the order to the officer. On the lower floor things get done – in silence.

You’ll get my drift – someone please write this play – 90 minutes of principals discussing torture – Billmon? r’giap? – I can’t.

The barman just opened another bottle for me … where is Brecht when you need him …

Comments

I don’t know if we could stand reading what Billmon would have to say about this. But, on the other hand, it would probably be something Hunter or Orwell would give a big amen to.

Posted by: mikefromtexas | Apr 14 2008 23:37 utc | 1

Billmon already said it in late 2004 when quoting Hunter Thompson:
This may be the year when we finally come face to face with ourselves; finally just lay back and say it — that we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns, and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Apr 15 2008 0:11 utc | 2

yes you can b. pass the bottle

Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 0:53 utc | 3

Back when we frequented Whiskey Bar, I threw out the idea that someone editorially inclined could turn the proceedings into some book-form that would artistically convey the insights to a wider audience.
I agree art-form is the media to a brighter future.
Like you b, I knew I didn’t have what it takes to do that. The wealth of accumulated informational discourse over these years offer someone a fecund opportunity add a lot of light to that future.
Come on someone! It could be a lot of fun with the cheering section that has moved over here to the Moon backing you up.

Posted by: Juannie | Apr 15 2008 2:00 utc | 4

i nominate tante!

Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 2:02 utc | 5

I’m sitting here listening to a radio announcer reading the specific details,
quoted by a diarist, of the autopsy of an Iraqi cleric, or goat herder, some
father out late, looking for his missing son, shop keepers getting together
at dusk to play dominos or sip tea in the evening breeze … some poor zek
who was beaten to death while being hung upside down from a broken doorway,
mouth gagged, every single rib broken, his lungs punctured, small and large
bowel filled with blood, rectum prolapsed, a purple sack pushed out his anus,
when he finally went … “pulse less”. What an allegory for America’s Dream.
Pulse less.
To which Grandpa “DoLittle” McCain jumps in, bellowing, “Bibles, bullets and
bitterness isn’t the kind of America I believe in!”, and Hillary is boasting
about how she, “gunned down a duck out hunting with my father … then had to
run for cover under a hail of sniper fire”, and Obama is wringing his hands,
“People, people! There are more important issues here! … Have you seen the
price of organic arugala at the grocery!?” What kind of play is this anyway?!
Tonight hundreds of millions of people are starving from higher speculative
food prices. “Not famished”, the radio announcer is quick to assure us, but
“feeling hungry” as they face another day, on from what is probably a bowl
of rice soaked all day in the hot sun and eaten raw, flies, fleas and all.
When I visited an Islamic country, my driver brought me to his house and
introduced me to his family, and offered me rice, chicken satay, and the
only bottle of soda in the house. For nothing! Just hosting the stranger!
And King George’s urgent response is to “call up” $250,000,000 more deficits,
like the $167,000,000,000 deficits he called up, repackaged as a “tax rebate”
and loaned back to us against our future income, loaning our own future taxes
back to us, at interest, with a 50% origination charge skimmed off the top!
No, annie, there’s no “play” left. And no players, and no audience. Susking
is right, an orgy of theft has begun, theft of an entire generation, theft
of an entire epoch, and the true shock and awe isn’t these vampiroyals at the
gate, the smell of hot gurgling blood and sound of their lapping pink tongues.
No, the shock and awe is American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, and the utter,
complete inability to speak the truth in America, at least anywhere in public.
Ask anybody at work. Go ahead, try it. Nose around gently to it. Start with
the weather, yeah, spring is kinda late this year. Then sports, wow, those
Red Sox fans are nuts, aren’t they? So how are you doing today, how was your
weekend? Pause, look in their eyes, say, “Why is torture still being debated?
Silence. Stone face. Scuff up the dirt. “Well, I gotta get back to work now.”
Then you open your e-mail to MoreFishingWithBill, and DeathToIslamFanatics.
A nation which can’t even speak the truth, not once, can never hope to find it.
“Truth is a river, wide as the sky, and an ocean, twice as deep.” Peter Torbay

Posted by: Tante Aime | Apr 15 2008 2:44 utc | 6

ask and she shall recieve

Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 2:46 utc | 7

Why is the American Psychological Association still allowing its members to participate in torture? A Torture Debate Among Healers
By Amy Goodman

Imagine, a candidate for president who, a year or so ago, no one would have considered electable. Now the person is the front-runner, with a groundswell of grass-roots support, threatening the sense of inevitability of the Establishment candidates. No, I’m not talking about the U.S. presidential race, but the race for president of the largest association of psychologists in the world, the American Psychological Association (APA). At the heart of the election is a raging debate over torture and interrogations. While the other healing professions, including the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association, bar their members from participating in interrogations, the APA leadership has fought against such a restriction.
Frustrated with the APA, a New York psychoanalyst, Dr. Steven Reisner, has thrown his hat into the ring. Last year, Reisner and other dissident psychologists formed the Coalition for an Ethical Psychology in an attempt to force a moratorium against participation by APA members in harsh interrogations. During the initial phase of this year’s selection process, Reisner received the most nominating votes. He is running on a platform opposing the use of psychologists to oversee abusive and coercive interrogations of prisoners at Guantanamo, secret CIA black sites or anywhere else international law or the Geneva Conventions are said not to apply.
The issue came to a head at the 2007 APA annual convention. After days of late-night negotiations, the moratorium came up for a climactic vote. We saw a surreal scene on the convention floor: Uniformed military were out in force. Men and women in desert camo and Navy whites worked the APA Council of Representatives, and officers in crisp dress uniforms stepped to the microphones.
Military psychologists insisted that they help make interrogations safe, ethical and legal, and cited instances where psychologists allegedly intervened to stop abuse.

I have no more words left for these fucks… but, I’ll say it again, I’ll be withholding my true thoughts and feelings, because anything I would say at this point, would land be in prison charged most certainly with a felony, and prolly others serious charges…
Has anyone seen or heard from bea?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 15 2008 3:37 utc | 8

All our talk here against torture will just be seen by them as part of the evil they are fighting. We are the ones they spy on and infiltrate and accuse of hating Ameirica. They label us as Saddam lovers, anti Semites and Leftists. They fear us more than they fear the terrorists and proclaim that the reason they don’t join the military is because they must stay and defeat us here at home.
Their bloodlust to kill and torture surpasses their compassion for the innocent. If they don’t torture them all, then how can they be sure that the guilty wont be tortured. They support the death penalty because it is more important to kill the guilty than to spare the innocent cuaght in the carnage. They can’t even compromise by keeping the guilty in jail for life for they must have their blood.
We were guilty back when we protested Saddam killing Iraqis and we are still guilty today protesting Bush killing even more Iraqis. Nothing we say will make any difference in their black hearts. They are oblivious to the rising tide of fear and rebellion growing in the World and our warnings fall on deaf ears. Billmon has long given up and who can blame him.

Posted by: Sam | Apr 15 2008 8:30 utc | 10

For us people of Spanish origin all this talk about torture and American governement and the sages from universities that justify it is actually the most pleasant, I should say almost orgasmic feeling. We had been vilified for centuries by the righteous Anglosaxons whose depredations murders and exactions were hidden under pious words of freedom and Pilgrims and the rest. Now it is clear that everybody is the same, corrupt, selfseeking, cruel. Those of us that do not torture we don’t do it because we have no need though we still torture pigs and hens and cows and the Earth. It is so true the time eventually brings out the truth. And let me say that I do not believe that anyone writing here is better than John Yoo and that we would not commit the same crimes when placed in the same circumstances. .

Posted by: jlcg | Apr 15 2008 9:41 utc | 11

I would like to read a few of the old posts. b, could you quote one every once in a while for old times sake?

Posted by: buckaroo | Apr 15 2008 9:42 utc | 12

jlcg:
And let me say that I do not believe that anyone writing here is better than John Yoo and that we would not commit the same crimes when placed in the same circumstances.
Bullshit, not everybody went along and that’s why we know about it. There were many resignations. A Colonol in Iraq shot himself because he could not stand the shame of his superiors actions. Sergeant Joseph M. Darby exposed the Abu Graib horrors when he found out about them. Speak for yourself.

Posted by: Sam | Apr 15 2008 10:19 utc | 13

Bravo b.

Posted by: beq | Apr 15 2008 11:11 utc | 14

what we know clearly today – that the cheney bush junta ramped up their agressive wars combined with the repression of civil liberties at home was indeed coupled with a very precise movement to neglect the geneva accords & to have a tool – torture – in the service of their repression of civil libertie. it is no accident. it was a plan. perhaps again one of the platforms already planned in 2000 by at least a part of the cabal who are without question, in any language, war criminals
they are indeed the same sort of me as kaltenbrunner, alois & heydrich. the very same

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 15 2008 13:58 utc | 15

jclg
you miss the point. torture is not about truth. it is about power. the cheney bush junta & their acolytes decided they want to drown in their power
torture is not something to mourn, for them, as we might, it is nothing other than a celebration of the power & indeed as alabama has pointed out an integral part of their pathology of power
what they have done is to soil their constitution – which might have been one of the gifts of the enlightenment
what they have done however in the 21st century is to deliver us to the natural evil of medieval period of human history
they might have turned iraq & afghanistan into stone – but the american people have also been transformed into stone
& there are consequences to those transformations

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 15 2008 14:36 utc | 16

Has anyone seen or heard from bea?
i have emailed her.. let’s hope she pays us a visit.

Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 14:53 utc | 17

PRESIDENT BUSH: Our country is at war, and our government has the obligation to protect the American people. The executive branch has the obligation to protect the American people; the legislative branch has the obligation to protect the American people. And we are aggressively doing that.
i would just like to point out what i am sure everyone here already knows. this ‘obligation’ wording is BS, the commitment and oath is to protect the constitution. it is the constitution that protects the american people.

Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 15:19 utc | 18

We are not all the same. Do not conflate humanity with the actions of a select few. People are neither cooperative altruists nor do they follow jungle ethics. Look somewhere in the middle.

Posted by: xro | Apr 15 2008 16:43 utc | 19

@jlcg – I do not believe that anyone writing here is better than John Yoo and that we would not commit the same crimes when placed in the same circumstances.
I very much doubt that and wonder why you think so.
“Placed in the same circumstances” is difficult to accept here. Yoo could have resigned any day and get back into his tenured Berkley job. All those pricipals could at any time get out of their place. It was power-addiction, greed and testosterone that “made” them do it, not sober analyse and responsibility. Certainly not everyone follows that trail.

Posted by: b | Apr 15 2008 18:39 utc | 20

yes, it would be interesting to hear more from jlcg on why he thinks such a reductio ad absurdum merits our reflection. he expressed the similar line of thought here recently, essentially blaming janitors for the current financial crisis.

Posted by: b real | Apr 15 2008 19:32 utc | 21

I am pleased by the fact that my little note has suggested commentaries in reply. I don’t deny that there are morally superior individuals that carry their principles to the point of dying. I am thinking of Bonhoffer and Franz Jaeggerstaetter and of that colonel that killed himself. A life of perfect virtue is probably one that ends up in death because a sensitive spirit becomes overwhelmed by the ” lapses in judgment” that surround all of us. Janitors and millionaires are cut from the same cloth and they tend to abuse and want to obtain dominion over fellow men. But the way to reach for power is not the same as having dominion. The United States has enormous power in Iraq but nary dominion.
When someone does not have dominion over another, that is not having taken posession of his mind, it must resort to violence, torture if you want to call it thus, dropping bombs fron a B52 or napalming everything around. The power that is in the United States dominates the government and through the government acquires agencies and finally those agencies find the recalcitrant ‘other” that must be either eliminated or tortured. If I am a shareholder in one of those corporations that buy off Congress and elect the government then those actions are my responsibility and I am as guilty as they are unless for example I refuse to pay taxes and then I am placed in jail. But who among the readers of Moon of Alabama has gone to jail for refusing to pay the taxes that support the war? Anyone? But the readers feel good about demonizing this or demonizing the other. Moral integrity is a very difficult affair and very painful.
The opposite of dominion is Love or Charity, it is a communion that dispenses with the acquisition of another’s will and on the contrary establishes a perfect singleness of purpose. A good marriage comes to mind.
I don’t feel good about myself but I am not enough of a man to take the measures that I ought to. I guess I will spend a long time in Purgatory if not an eternity in Hell.
My writing is rambling because I see the world as a reticular formation and not a single string of events.

Posted by: jlcg | Apr 15 2008 22:32 utc | 22

I don’t feel good about myself but I am not enough of a man to take the measures that I ought to.
I suspect this is a common trait among many of us here, in matters ranging from the small to the large. Speaking for myself, I think it’s clear that eating meat, at least the way it is processed in the US, is a moral wrong, but I lack the willpower to stop. I can’t imagine myself inflicting torture directly on anyone – human or animal – and yet my meat consumption results in just that. It is hypocricy and inasmuch as that’s what you’re driving at with your comments I do agree. There still must be some degree of difference, however, between such indirectly disgraceful conduct and the deliberate work Yoo did to help excuse the concentration of absolute power in the hands of a very few.
I guess I will spend a long time in Purgatory if not an eternity in Hell.
Long since having relinquished my Catholicism, I can say that if I were still hanging onto it I’d side with Graham Greene on this one – yes, there must be a Hell, but there can be no one in it. For any God anyone could wish to have, His love would keep getting in the way of His justice. I’d like to think, however, that perhaps a special exception could be made for Pat Robertson.

Posted by: mats | Apr 15 2008 23:08 utc | 23

jclg
again, i think you miss the point. john yoo is an elemental cadre within a chain of criminal acts. most of us here would respect jurisprudence – at least enough to know that the cheney bush junta has committed all of the four charges outlined in nuremburg/nürnberg
they have commited these crimes with the assistance & willing action of their cadre – yoo, addington, feith etc etc – all that subspecies of men & women who adore power above all else. even the most cursory examination would show us how far from the truth – they & their actions are
complicity is shared by us all because the criminal conspiracy & the criminal acts continue. but not even the most vociferous supporter, plebian supporter of the cheny bush junta – has the particular ‘responsibility’ of the cadre. that cadre has engaged in two parallel but contingent practices – unleashing illegal wars of profit against sovereign nations & peoples & at the same time they have emasculated bourgeois jurisprudence of even the pretence of justice or of civil liberty.
the patriot acts & the acts to invade are one & the same. the so called “war on terror” masks the complete & utter degradation of whatever moral centre the american empire has had (history would tell us that since its victory against british & french imperialism after the second world war – foreign policy of those united states has been nothing other than an anthology of criminal actions – restrained at times by a people who could manage to perceive the injustice & manage to derail the most criminal of actions)& as an empire that is breaking apart it is necessary to attack its own people
& it is important to make the point, which mr murdoch surely understands to a tee – that to entertain & punish a people can sometimes be the same thing
i am very far from america but it is easy to see the fear that emanates from it – every ounce of its culture tells me so. it pretends to speak of freedom, liberty & deomcracy – but everything, & i mean everything it does is degrade thos words from having any sort of meaning, real meaning
someone sd cruellly here the other day that if nepal had oil – they would be dead meat by now & it is true – its elementally true. capital will not permit anything to get in the way of its own survival
& central to that survival is the cadre – is men & women like you. for me it is very simple, as in nürnberg – people like yoo or addington should be hanging from ropes with their shit soiling their pants – as we used to say when young – what is good for the goose is as good for the gander. all those who hanged in the courtyard of the prison of nürnberg committed exactly the same crimes as those of the cadre serving the cheney bush junta
i think that is why even in such a corrupt artifact of culture as the series ’24’ – it is forced to acknowledge that within their power is a natural malignancy & as much as it needs to demonise the ‘other’ it knows basically that it is looking at its own silhouette & that silhouette is a shadow that will follow them all their days

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 16 2008 1:07 utc | 24

If I wrote it, it would be sort of a cross between Glengarry Glen Ross (the movie version) — with the cocky, abusive sales director (Rumsfeld) bullying and sexually humiliating the weaker members of the team — and Twelve Angry Men — with the amoral, disinterested jury members perfectly willing to go along with war crimes if it will get them out of the meeting and home in time for dinner.
The twist would be that the One Honest Man (Powell) would quickly cave to the abusive sales director and his sheep-like followers, instead of the other way around.
And Condi would spend the whole play fantasizing about fellating her office husband.

Posted by: Billmon | Apr 16 2008 2:35 utc | 25

the idea of sexual congrees between the prinicpals & their cadre, the physical idea of that is so disturbing – violence, pysical violence seem far more natural to their species (i am thinking of a film that i cannot remember its name – with angie dickinson & lee marvin – with one of the last denouments marving shooting dickinson – telling her he doesn’t have the time)
it is no accident that in a series like ’24’ – torture scenes replace what would normally have been the sex scenes – it is where their cultural power rests

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 16 2008 2:54 utc | 26

billmon!!!
i miss you soooo much

Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2008 5:22 utc | 27

It’s beginning to look like the US corporate media will prostitute itself for McCain, bending over backwards and forwards (as needed) to sell the elixir of victory, mixed with a strong tonic of testosterone. Nepal is fortunate to be relatively hard to reach, sheltered from the outside world to some degree, without those particular resources that attract capital obsessions.
Others can’t avoid the fixation of the roving Ahab in the American psyche, in hot pursuit of the morphing Leviathan, Moby Dick. Last seen in the Persian Gulf. The poet, Ferlinghetti, captures the essence of this violent movement in Tyrannus Nix:

Nixon o Nixon I dreamt of myself curled up
upon a big bed in the same position as my dog Head
tucked under tail sleeping and hiding from You I don’t know
why exactly I’m telling you all this except that the
curled-up image of self and dog is perhaps the image
of paranoid America itself The Vietnam albatross
still hanging heavy ’round your neck oh Uncle Ahab
and other overweight albatrosses still caught in the
rigging of your ship still voyaging continually abroad
in search of monsters to destroy…

When Max Van Creveld, the military historian, recently wrote Why Iraq Will End as Vietnam Did, we are shown, through Moshe Dayan’s eyes, an Israeli general’s tour of the US war machine in Vietnamese waters, and the shadow of the Leviathan, heaving and disappearing on the high seas.

On 28 July he went aboard the largest aircraft carrier then cruising off the Vietnamese coast, USS Constellation. He was a professional military man and had often read and heard about such ships; yet what he now saw made “a breath-taking impression” on him. The vessel constituted five acres of sovereign American territory that could go anywhere without having to worry about troublesome allies”…”The ship was protected “from the air, the sea, the ground, outer space, and under water”; if Dayan was being ironic–after all, the enemy consisted of little men wearing straw hats–he did not say so”…”As always, Dayan was impressed by the Americans’ pride in themselves, their nation, and their mission. He ended the day by noting that they were “not fighting against infiltration to South [Vietnam], or against guerillas, or against North Vietnamese leader Ho Chi Minh, but against the entire world. Their real aim was to show everybody–including Britain, France, and the USSR–their power and determination so as to pass this message: wherever Americans go, they are irresistable.”

If that media mafiosi, Berlusconi, can regain power in Italy; what’s the prognosis for a more politically damaged country like my own? John McCain, with access to more power than any person ought to have, will make a player like him seem positively moderate.

What is it, what nameless, inscrutable, unearthly thing is it; what cozening, hidden lord and master, and cruel, remorseless emperor commands me; that against all natural lovings and longings, I so keep pushing, and crowding, and jamming myself all the time; recklessly making me ready to do what in my own proper, natural heart, I durst not so much as dare? Is Ahab, Ahab? Is it I, God, or who, that lifts this arm?
–Herman Melville, Moby Dick, p. 534-35

Posted by: Copeland | Apr 16 2008 5:33 utc | 28

On second thought, I’d do it like Judgment at Nuremberg — with each of the “principals” gradually stripped bare of their pathetic lies and petty rationalizations under cross exam by a brilliant and cunning prosecutor.
And, just to complete the symbolic irony, I’d make the prosecutor a German.

Posted by: billmon | Apr 16 2008 11:45 utc | 29

The true nature of the criminals who have hijacked the our world has become so obvious that such a production, in my opinion, would be the way to finally awaken the American psyche to those glaring truths.
Perhaps if r’giap directed it..?

Posted by: Juannie | Apr 16 2008 15:26 utc | 30

Perhaps if r’giap directed it..?
Hear here, I agree…
I’d love to do the soundtrack. No way around it, we have to open the scene with, Sympathy for the mother fucking Devil and close with Ivan Neville doing John Fogerty’s, “Fortunate Son”*. And believe me the music in between would be rememberable.
* the best sound quality MUSIC WISE version of this song is with Ivan Neville singing at the warren haynes christmas jam 05; he mentions Dan Rathers firing, Jr.’s awol Guard Service and Katrina unfortunately, it’s not on da youtubes…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 16 2008 17:18 utc | 31

b could play the german prosecutor

Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2008 17:41 utc | 32

or maybe an all star cast would be better.

Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2008 17:43 utc | 33