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April 13, 2008
OT 08-15
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I read in Bloomberg that Paulson has recommended to countries where there may be food deficits to refrain from price controls and subsidies. The idea is that they should let their population starve so that prices, after a while, from a dimished population, may come down, so that the principles of economics may be upheld. I love this devotion to principles. Posted by: jlcg | Apr 13 2008 18:27 utc | 1 Did you know that Mark Penn’s company, Burson-Marsteller, who “advises” Clinton, also owns the company of Charlie Black who “advises” McCain?
re no. 1: Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 13 2008 19:44 utc | 3 notes from the iraqi resistance Posted by: annie | Apr 13 2008 20:36 utc | 4 If the IMF wants more buy-in from 1W countries to alleviate global starvation from Posted by: Petey Michelson | Apr 13 2008 20:49 utc | 5 bbc Israel ‘using psychological torture’
Posted by: annie | Apr 13 2008 22:00 utc | 6 Paulson and Bernanke and Friends can hardly give up the notion that the market comes first, comes before human beings. They can hardly avoid making whatever hard decisions must be made to stick with that approach. Posted by: Hobson | Apr 14 2008 0:55 utc | 7 @hobson @8 Posted by: jony_b_cool | Apr 14 2008 3:42 utc | 9 Democratic Candidates Compassion Forum:
So she thinks Obama is elitist, out of touch, and patronizing and that Bush is a very good man and a man of faith. How very revealing.
Even Bush had the common sense to decry torture in public despite the policy. This is a religous forum where people are looking to her to espouse the highest of ideals and when she is asked about torture and what is morally right she replies that she doesn’t know the answer? She has a sense of process and she’ll talk it over with others? Posted by: Sam | Apr 14 2008 3:52 utc | 10
Interesting numbers from the other war: David W. Barno – Lt. General, USA (Ret.) – HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE TESTIMONY – April 2, 2008(pdf)
Headline says it all – Clinton offers steps to help defense industry This made my made my day. In a 14 cigarettes, 8 pints of beer a day, sort of way. Posted by: anna missed | Apr 14 2008 8:59 utc | 15 Sam, I hope you didn’t miss the bit where Clinton said Kerry and Gore were aloof elitist unbelieves, which was why they lost their elections. That a Dem candidate has the guts to pretend Gore actually lost the 2000 election is quite rare (and foolish). That HRC criticises anyone for being aloof, elitist, and not religious enough, is on par with BushCo hubris and hypocritical arrogance. Posted by: CluelessJoe | Apr 14 2008 9:54 utc | 17 You can be as aloof and elitist as you want, just don’t come across that way. Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 14 2008 11:26 utc | 18 Here’s a site that looks at oil influence on government:
For example this illustrates the influence on the pigs lined up at the Iraqi oil trough:
But the public is catching on:
Follow the Oil Money Key Findings Posted by: Sam | Apr 14 2008 15:05 utc | 19 Pakistan proposes building oil and gas pipeline to China
Posted by: b real | Apr 14 2008 15:20 utc | 20 @b real – 20 Of the two big news stories that broke April 11, one had legs, and the other apparently did not: President Bush confesses he’s a war criminal, so let’s change the subject to Barack Obama’s elitism. You would think that John McCain and Hillary Clinton could have spared a few words about White House crimes that made everything for which Richard Nixon faced impeachment seem like child’s play, but apparently they were too busy piling on. Posted by: Madison Guy | Apr 14 2008 17:51 utc | 22 looking for more confirmation on this, but from madrid’s el imparcial yesterday
the machine translation is not the smoothest, but the article adds more to the story i pointed out back in january.
Posted by: b real | Apr 14 2008 18:11 utc | 23 dropped a word — above should read “to see who’s covering it” Posted by: b real | Apr 14 2008 18:13 utc | 24 Remember those “shores of Tripoli” menioned in the US Marine Corps hymn? That goes back to the days of fighting the Barbary Coast pirates, in which Morocco aided the young USA. Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 14 2008 18:48 utc | 25 Here’s a poll done specifically on the currant housing market:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2004347654_webhousingcrisis14.html?syndication=rss Posted by: Sam | Apr 14 2008 18:51 utc | 26 wrt ralphieboy’s mention of tripoli
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also, youtube documentary Posted by: b real | Apr 14 2008 19:08 utc | 28 meanwhile, in europe – we picked the dumbest & most moronic crowd of motherfuckers to ‘lead’ us. from east to west to the northj & south – cretins – the elite of imbeciles Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 14 2008 19:23 utc | 29 #28 “We are breaking the bonds of slavery.” Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 1:02 utc | 30 thank you b real. i watched all 6 segments of The Assassination of Patrice Lumumba. the last one was the worst. the description in the german media (segment 4 or 5), horrific. imagining how the world could be w/out greed. not in my lifetime, maybe never. Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 2:00 utc | 31 didn’t those smug bastards just make you sick? too bad i didn’t have that link at the time uncle posted the obit for devlin. and that the filmmakers weren’t packing… Posted by: b real | Apr 15 2008 2:07 utc | 32 if at first you don’t succeed…
let’s see – in puntland there have been at least a couple PIS intel officers assassinated recently, lots of shenanigans going on over pushing through controversial oil legislation recently, which has raised intra-tribal animosity b/w yusuf & muse, reports of mass counterfeiting in somalia originating through puntland, and the ongoing friction w/ somaliland.
that’s probably the more likely reason. it wouldn’t make sense for the cia to be arming puntland to take on somaliland while DoS & DoD are cozying up to riyale. to get a feel for the outrage that riyale’s move, which as i pointed out in the last OT was encouraged by his foreign supporters, has wrought on the breakaway republic, check out the latest issue of somaliland times. Posted by: b real | Apr 15 2008 4:48 utc | 33 Morocco also being a stable right-wing dictatorship (under a king no less) that keeps on occupation going in one of its weaker neighbour states, can only be plus points for the US administration. Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Apr 15 2008 11:38 utc | 34 b real didn’t those smug bastards just make you sick? Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 15:31 utc | 35
Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 16:28 utc | 36 audio link Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 18:10 utc | 38 david barouski has been posting some very enlightening documentation re the events surrounding the massacres in rwanda accumulated by the defense laywer coalition ADAD (association des avocats de la defence), who were shunned by the ICTR.
Posted by: b real | Apr 15 2008 18:14 utc | 39 it’s not just people that are rioting over food
Posted by: b real | Apr 15 2008 18:21 utc | 40 What are they up to now?
Posted by: Alamet | Apr 15 2008 20:58 utc | 41 Cernig at Newshoggers may have a point:
Posted by: Alamet | Apr 15 2008 21:02 utc | 42 Drumroll… Iraqi Accord Front returns to the fold. Posted by: Alamet | Apr 15 2008 21:05 utc | 43 Brian Cloughley sums up amerikan military arrogance around our planet.
Cloughley goes on to detail other instances of amerikan murdering about the planet, instances that may not be reported on CNN or Faux but which are reported in the areas they occur. Posted by: Debs is dead | Apr 15 2008 21:09 utc | 44 Iran Says US Aids Rebels at Its Borders
Related, from MoJo Blog
Posted by: Alamet | Apr 15 2008 21:10 utc | 45 alamet #42 if one group gets to pick a next Grand Ayatollah who will favor their side then that warfare will accelerate rapidly. Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2008 22:02 utc | 46 annie # 46 – more sides here than just those two – you are right, of course! But I think Cernig’s connecting of the assasination attempts to reports of Sistani’s ill health has merit. Posted by: Alamet | Apr 15 2008 22:50 utc | 47 Ambrose Evans-Pritchard at the Telegraph, chockful of figures as usual:
Posted by: Alamet | Apr 15 2008 23:01 utc | 49 Alamet, Posted by: anna missed | Apr 16 2008 2:14 utc | 50 dow jones newswire: Darfur Rebel Group Wants Western Oil Cos To Replace Chinese
uh-huh. sure.
sounds like JEM wants the coveted puppet role Posted by: b real | Apr 16 2008 4:32 utc | 51 b real: Posted by: Sam | Apr 16 2008 5:26 utc | 52 jesus sam. have you watched the bank job? Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2008 6:27 utc | 53 annie: Posted by: Sam | Apr 16 2008 8:28 utc | 54 Statistics: Posted by: Sam | Apr 16 2008 8:59 utc | 55 So Musharraf is in China courting stronger military and economic ties and the government back home is at peace with the Warlords in Waziristan:
Olympic torch kicks off Asian journey in Pakistan Posted by: Sam | Apr 16 2008 9:10 utc | 56 Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel
@b 57 Posted by: L’Akratique | Apr 16 2008 12:50 utc | 58 i see that gates & rice were before the house armed services committee tuesday, for a hearing titled “Building Partnership Capacity and Development of the Interagency Process”, asking again that section 1206 authority be made permanent
rice:
related materials Posted by: b real | Apr 16 2008 15:45 utc | 59 badger’s on a roll Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2008 15:49 utc | 60 michael klare: The End of the World as You Know It …and the Rise of the New Energy World Order
Posted by: b real | Apr 16 2008 15:51 utc | 61 I thought for sure that Bush would be our Hoover. But I guess I was wrong.
Apparently, McCain thinks wealthy people are “you” and everyone else is nobody. Definitely running for Hoover. Posted by: citizen | Apr 16 2008 15:53 utc | 62 What the hell citizen, I’ve been saying “Fuck bush” at beer:30 for going 8 years; “Fuck mccain” sounds just as good. Posted by: beq | Apr 16 2008 17:09 utc | 63 McCain Campaign Farfallegate
so it may just be the United States’ most important news of the month. Posted by: citizen | Apr 16 2008 18:16 utc | 64 second day in a row that the unocha’s news service IRIN is running one of these type of stories (see #40 for yesterday’s story)
Posted by: b real | Apr 16 2008 18:39 utc | 65 Chaos Capitalism: every cloud a silver lining Posted by: citizen | Apr 16 2008 19:02 utc | 66 RTI
heaven’s that is a lot of collaboration. i wonder how they got confessions out of 42 people. hmm. i wonder what the reputation of al-Watan is. Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2008 19:23 utc | 67 quite good hour-long interview w/ michael klare on kpfa’s against the grain wednesday dealing w/ many of the topics in his new book. (mp3 archive will be available @ the link later today). covers russia, caspian sea, china, sudan, africa etc… Posted by: b real | Apr 16 2008 19:57 utc | 68 From b real’s link @ 59:
Hey that sounds familiar especially that part about building partner capacity. That’s what they told us when they helped install our man in Iran the Shah. That’s what they told us when they armed and funded our “freedom Fighter” friend bin Laden. That’s what they told us when they gave WMD to our close ally Saddam in Iraq. That sure worked out well didn’t it? Posted by: Sam | Apr 16 2008 20:47 utc | 69 A quote for Billmon regarding falling silent:
some excerpts from the land of make-believe, wherein the guy playing the role of the president of a nation that often takes on the name of an entire continent (in vain) says to the guy playing the role of the spiritual head of the largest cult on the planet,
may god strike me dead if i’m lying Posted by: b real | Apr 17 2008 2:53 utc | 71 damnit! was laughing so hard didn’t realize i pasted that penultimate paragraph twice Posted by: b real | Apr 17 2008 2:57 utc | 72 Here in America you’ll find a nation of compassion. Americans believe that the measure of a free society is how we treat the weakest and most vulnerable among us. So each day citizens across America answer the universal call to feed the hungry and comfort the sick and care for the infirm. Each day across the world the United States is working to eradicate disease, alleviate poverty, promote peace and bring the light of hope to places still mired in the darkness of tyranny and despair. Posted by: Tantalus | Apr 17 2008 3:35 utc | 73 bizarre photographic moment @ the u.n. security council mtg today — check out the third photo here Posted by: b real | Apr 17 2008 3:38 utc | 74 Well, considering the countries involved, it made me laugh, and could think of any number of other countries reps being just as funny. Posted by: anna missed | Apr 17 2008 4:49 utc | 75 Inspector lohmann, someone I have read for years, suggests, a good article and comment which posits, ‘sociopathic behavior becoming the norm’ Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2008 5:51 utc | 76
Many interesting embed links above… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2008 6:15 utc | 77 @ b 57 Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Apr 17 2008 8:32 utc | 78 Did coalition copter leave weapons for Taliban?
You’ll rember this one …
more on a story i pointed out in the previous OT
Posted by: b real | Apr 17 2008 15:08 utc | 81 @b real – the “planes” coming from the ships were of course helos. Comfortably Numb: How Psychiatry Is Medicating a Nation
Smoke your Prozac like a good little citizen… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2008 17:53 utc | 84 could that have been a support mission for the recent French raid on the Somali pirates that had captured the luxory yacht in the Gulf of Aden?
that’s a pretty big leap in logic imo. no way the u.s. is gonna move that many staffers & their families anywhere in somalia for the foreseeable future, much less try to base the entire command in predominately muslim territories. nix on a HQ role. but as i’ve documented here before, the port has been a very important geostrategic asset for u.s. policies in the region in the past & was one of the locales they considered for CJTF-HOA before settling for the current real estate in djibouti. Posted by: b real | Apr 17 2008 19:10 utc | 85 Somalia is fucked. I remember a Red Cross pilot who I shared a few beers with telling me he dropped arms shipments over Somalia at night and landed planes full of Khat during the day. Berbera is a perfect port and logistics centre. The Russians knew this many years ago. Posted by: Cloned Poster | Apr 17 2008 19:55 utc | 86 HKO@78 Posted by: citizen | Apr 17 2008 22:14 utc | 87 smokin prozac and being bombed by homeland security drones*… yep, what a future, dear Uncle… what an acomplishment, dear amerrika… Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 17 2008 23:06 utc | 88 I suppose that it is no surprise that peeps in NZ are more aware of the fact their country is one of only two that allows direct to consumer prescription drug advertising, than the peeps in the other country, amerika. The deregulation may be newer here, but since it occurs within the continuum of a semi-socialised health system is it certainly more controversial. Physicians and other health professionals complain of the difficulty of treating a patient who believes they already know what they need having diagnosed their malady and selected their remedy on the basis of a 20 second TV commercial. Posted by: Debs is dead | Apr 17 2008 23:07 utc | 89 well, rudolf #88 & 90
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2008 23:17 utc | 91 Also see, Robot Air Attack Squadron Bound for Iraq Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2008 23:33 utc | 92 Also see, Robot Air Attack Squadron Bound for Iraq Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2008 23:33 utc | 93 one assumes that folks in New Z would be more… how can i say… aware… of the world outside their bubbles than amerrikan folks… Posted by: rudolf | Apr 17 2008 23:34 utc | 94 Finally, Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2008 23:34 utc | 95 hey Uncle $! Posted by: rudolf | Apr 17 2008 23:43 utc | 96 started with the last link… Posted by: rudolf | Apr 17 2008 23:53 utc | 97 anyone else in the central u.s. get woken up early this morning by a little shaking? Posted by: b real | Apr 18 2008 14:55 utc | 98 The Pirate Bay Launches Uncensored Blogging Service Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 18 2008 16:32 utc | 99 in #33 i pointed out a story about the “reportedly CIA-funded intelligence arm of the Puntland regional government” unloading at least 40 toyota trucks which sources said were finding their way to a relative of the puntland president (who also happens to be a board member of range resources, ltd – the australian minnow at the center of some controversial oil exploration contracts in northern somalia)
i’ve yet to find confirmation of the latter, as reports occasionally surface putting gedi in the mix of events in the horn of africa — plus he’s still a member of the somali parliament — as, now getting to it, this article last week on muse & gedi’s mtg shows
and then, in today’s news, one can read of gedi & a fleet of toyota trucks
now were these trucks recent acquisitions or are they from gedi’s private security forces during his stint in mogadishu? gedi wasn’t previously a warlord as many of the other transitional govt officials are, though w/ money & connections one can easily finance their own army if need be. gedi has long ties w/ ethiopia’s meles zenawi, who, afaik, is still backing yusuf’s presidency. will be interesting to find out more on this episode. Posted by: b real | Apr 18 2008 20:18 utc | 100 |
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