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March 19, 2008
“Iraq War Was Worth It”

Bush Says Iraq War Was Worth It

"Five years into this battle, there is an understandable debate over whether the war was worth fighting … whether the fight is worth winning … and whether we can win it. The answers are clear to me:"


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Cheney’s Halliburton Ties Remain

According to Cheney’s 2001 financial disclosure report, the vice president’s Halliburton benefits include three batches of stock options comprising 433,333 shares.

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Mi$$ion A¢¢ompli$hed™.

Posted by: Monolycus | Mar 19 2008 16:12 utc | 1

Billmonesque. Hard and Accurate. Congrats

Posted by: Colombianonymous | Mar 19 2008 16:52 utc | 2

Some other voices: Jim Lobe asks Why Did the U.S. Invade Iraq?

According to a 1996 paper drafted by prominent hard-line neo-conservatives — including some, like Douglas Feith and David Wurmser, who would later serve in senior posts in Cheney’s office and the Pentagon in the run-up to the invasion — ousting Hussein and installing a pro-Western leader was the key to destabilising Israel’s Arab enemies and/or bending them to its will. This would permit the Jewish state not only to escape the Oslo peace process, but also to secure as much of the occupied Palestinian (and Syrian) territories as it wished.
Indeed, getting rid of Hussein and occupying Iraq would not only tighten Israel’s hold on Arab territories, in this view; it could also threaten the survival of the Arab and Islamic worlds’ most formidable weapon against Israel — OPEC — by flooding the world market with Iraqi oil and forcing the commodity’s price down to historic lows.
That’s how it looked five years ago anyway.

Patrick Cockburn: A War of Lies – The Terrible Reality of Iraq
A War of Lies

Robert Fisk: Robert Fisk: The only lesson we ever learn is that we never learn

On our historical radars, not even Crassus appeared, the wealthiest Roman general of all, who demanded an emperorship after conquering Macedonia – “Mission Accomplished” – and vengefully set forth to destroy Mesopotamia. At a spot in the desert near the Euphrates river, the Parthians – ancestors of present day Iraqi insurgents – annihilated the legions, chopped off Crassus’s head and sent it back to Rome filled with gold. Today, they would have videotaped his beheading.

And I will hazard a terrible guess: that we have lost Afghanistan as surely as we have lost Iraq and as surely as we are going to “lose” Pakistan. It is our presence, our power, our arrogance, our refusal to learn from history and our terror – yes, our terror – of Islam that is leading us into the abyss. And until we learn to leave these Muslim peoples alone, our catastrophe in the Middle East will only become graver. There is no connection between Islam and “terror”. But there is a connection between our occupation of Muslim lands and “terror”. It’s not too complicated an equation. And we don’t need a public inquiry to get it right.

Posted by: b | Mar 19 2008 17:02 utc | 3

It is understandable but disquieting that calling the Iraq debacle a “war”, seems somehow to make it acceptable to the US public (part). Of course they have been snowed over with the stereotype – an enemy, national defense, islamo-fascisms, cells and secret armies, und so weiter, to make it fit legendary history. Note that Obama uses the word as well. However, nobody is using the word peace which usually means the cessation or absence of war, in contrast to the Israelis, who use and abuse that concept. I suppose that reflects the fact that Israel has managed to convince or show that is has enemies and that it is attacked, whereas everyone implicitly agrees that the US is not in that position, either because Iraqis are seen as helpless, or because the very idea of the US being attacked seriously in any way is an unacceptable concept. The ‘attack on America’ of 9/11 had some echo and effects, but was never taken seriously, in that no cause or agents beyond nebulous ‘islamic terror’ were ever identified, la-la-land in defense terms, which at the very least requires the enemy to be identified.
Opponents call the Iraq venture “an occupation.” Presidential candidates don’t use that dirty word, but act as if it was apt. Hill would withdraw troops she says (Bush did too, etc.) presumably soften or minimize the guns/goons aspect, replacing them with Iraqi arms and other more robust structures of Gvmt/economic control, international involvement (see Afghanistan for ex.), etc. A question of method of managing an occupation, smoothing it over, making it politically correct, etc. (Fat hope.) McCain prefers the discourse of what power of ten years of ‘war’ I have forgotten, he prefers to call a spade a machine gun, no doubt R-D discourse required differences play a role. (Gritty realism doomed to failure both on the ground and politically.) Yet, the term ‘occupation’ doesn’t really fit either.
What is the US occupying?
The ground? No. The infrastructure, a viable, working territory : destroyed. It is one thing to have lily pads in Germany or Kosova, another to hold postage stamps in a devastated desert and ‘badlands’.
The economic apparatus? No; no ‘viable’ modern capitalist economy can exist lacking the material infrastructure (eg. some roads, water, electricity); without some agreed-on law and order, such as contract law, reasonable courts, and even dull stuff like traffic laws. Import-export, to mention only the obvious, has to be smooth: and for that, the ‘country’ has to have some kind of status and stability. Guam, Porto Rico, Afghanistan, aren’t US states, don’t suffer in the same way (to mention very diverse examples.) Vichy France is a counter example. Iraq has no status.
Hearts and minds? Opinion? Cyber space? Teen aspirations? Cultural kinks, core values? No. For the US, the only only aim of capting these is to control other aspects, and clumsy propaganda efforts are tireless but passing strange and self defeating. See link.
Extractive or ‘productive’ ground based business? such as agriculture, mining, land manipulations (eg. dams) energy (fossil fuels), sustainable, so called, such as wind, dates, fish farms? etc. No – (see above, which is the easy part.) So that shoe doesn’t fit either.
link about Afghanistan: DoD Strategic Communication Plan for Afgh. Very slow to load properly but worth a read. link via blog MountainRunner, “on public diplomacy and strategic communications in the 21st century” link

Posted by: Tangerine | Mar 19 2008 18:34 utc | 4

Great points Tangerine, and would only add that the only thing the U.S. occupies in Iraq is possession of a three trillion dollar bet plunked down on Longshot – that the Iraqi
people will abandon their culture, history, religion, social structure and adopt our exceptional western enlightenment values and hand over to us (because they want to be us) their only natural resource. And Longshot has longago “kicked the bucket”.

Posted by: anna missed | Mar 19 2008 19:05 utc | 5

Now it is being argued in conservative circles that financing the Iraq War is one of the reasons for the USA’s current economic malaise, and that if the Europeans aren’t willing to help in fixing it, that just shows their lack of gratitude for America’s efforts at spreading Peace and Freedom.
So we made a bad bet, now we can’t make the next mortgage payment and Europe is not going play the enabler.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Mar 19 2008 19:42 utc | 6

This is long, but very infomative, and while I don’t always agree with him, I always read him, and ulimately always learn something I didn’t know… No use in excerpts, this needs to be read in full.
Dinner With Ahmed
by Scott Ritter

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 19 2008 19:55 utc | 7

Addendum, I wasn’t a third of the way into it when I posted above, let me say now, after finishing it, this is explosive,–as a commenter there says–, ‘Nuremberg Trials-scale [like] testimony’. I’d stay out of small planes type stuff. And while this may or may not be intended as a shot in the arm for HRC, and her campaign it does give them some much needed ammo. Especially as I was recently reminded, that (and I believe posted about) how FOX ‘News’ was selected to be Official Press Pool Broadcaster at the up and coming Democratic Convention.
Welcome to the dark carnival-esque ‘world fair’ midway of political tactical maneuvering’s. Step right up to the dadaist house of mirrors, enter the expo of energy task force wax museum held in the lobby of the beltway mayflower offices, with bearded ladies and Liberace strongmen, hear the chatter of the barking uncle Milton Berle type carnies; don’t miss the “Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry of All Nations” in the halls of AEI, AND THE Huntington ‘Clash of Civs’ cave, featuring the Vincent Price house of blood.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 19 2008 20:58 utc | 8

“that the Iraqi people will abandon their culture, history, religion, social structure and adopt our exceptional western enlightenment values and hand over to us (because they want to be us)”
of course, it is common knowledge that inside every sand-nigger is an American trying to get out
Fisk has it right, no learning to be had here, move along

Posted by: jcairo | Mar 20 2008 5:49 utc | 9

Oil for War

But America’s presence in Iraq isn’t making use of the local riches. Indeed, little, if any, Iraqi oil is being used by the American military. Instead, the bulk of the fuel needed by the U.S. military is being trucked in from the sprawling Mina Abdulla refinery complex, which lies a few dozen kilometers south of Kuwait City. In 2006 alone, the Defense Energy Support Center purchased $909.3 million in motor fuel from the state-owned Kuwait Petroleum Corporation. In addition to the Kuwaiti fuel, the U.S. military is trucking in fuel from Turkey. But some of that Turkish fuel actually originates in refineries as far away as Greece.
In 2007 alone, the U.S. military in Iraq burned more than 1.1 billion gallons of fuel. (American Armed Forces generally use a blend of jet fuel known as JP-8 to propel both aircraft and automobiles.) About 5,500 tanker trucks are involved in the Iraqi fuel-hauling effort. That fleet of trucks is enormously costly. In November 2006, a study produced by the U.S. Military Academy estimated that delivering one gallon of fuel to U.S. soldiers in Iraq cost American taxpayers $42—and that didn’t include the cost of the fuel itself. At that rate, each U.S. soldier in Iraq is costing $840 per day in fuel delivery costs, and the U.S. is spending $923 million per week on fuel-related logistics in order to keep 157,000 G.I.s in Iraq. Given that the Iraq War is now costing about $2.5 billion per week, petroleum costs alone currently account for about one-third of all U.S. military expenditure in Iraq.

Posted by: b | Mar 20 2008 10:27 utc | 10

interesting article from ritter, though i wonder about the use of direct quotes in what was said.
and i don’t recall seeing anyone mention cheney’s remarks on public opinion wednesday in an interview on abc
Cheney On Two-Thirds Of The American Public Opposing The Iraq War: ‘So?’

CHENEY: On the security front, I think there’s a general consensus that we’ve made major progress, that the surge has worked. That’s been a major success.
RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So?
RADDATZ So? You don’t care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.

Posted by: b real | Mar 20 2008 15:11 utc | 11

jcairo, thanks for the moving picture of how that works.

Posted by: anna missed | Mar 20 2008 17:27 utc | 12