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March 4, 2008
08-11 – Open Thread
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The NYT reporting on Palestine gets more confused day by day.
So hwo many days are between Wednesday and Monday? But the “two-day” claim is in the first graph and few read further … Kunstler on the futility whoever gets elected president will be faced with: Posted by: anna missed | Mar 4 2008 9:04 utc | 2 Great work you do b. Mid February I wrote:
Today Asia Times writes
wsws: US missile strike kills women and children in Somalia
Posted by: b real | Mar 4 2008 18:38 utc | 12 Follow up from last OT… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 4 2008 18:59 utc | 13 moa could really use a correspondent watching events in the southern hemisphere of the americas. i don’t believe anyone has brought up the situation WRT colombia yet.
as the wsws article in my previous comment points out
and, as justin podur also made clear in another article
plenty of media coverage & links on the sitch at justin delacour’s Latin America News Review for starters Posted by: b real | Mar 4 2008 19:05 utc | 14 article in colombia journal from early january
Posted by: b real | Mar 4 2008 19:38 utc | 15 Well WORLD?
You can buy Gazprom shares here.,so what’s the problem? Posted by: Cloned Poster | Mar 4 2008 21:16 utc | 16 The whole mess in Latin America is becoming really “interesting” indeed. I’ve followed it these last days and am still puzzling over the players’ intent here. Do the USA really want to try open war to oust Chavez from Venezuela, or even to have an excuse to invade Cuba and do 2 regime changes at the same time? BushCo wouldn’t mind, but with which army? Posted by: CluelessJoe | Mar 4 2008 23:17 utc | 17 yes, it would seem like uribe is the united states mad dog of latin america. he’s as mad as a meat axe guaranteeing that there will be no more freeing of hostages. & it is clear the u s ordered the hit on commander reyes precisely because he perhaps represented a line in farc that was amenable to negotiation Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 4 2008 23:41 utc | 18 other than making me sick – ô they make me laugh – cnn & all their confreres who give themselves all these titles like chief political reporter, chief international editor etc etc – they are cartoonish in thir buffoonery Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 4 2008 23:53 utc | 19 Who is Henry Okah? Alternet
By Daniel Volman and Beth Tuckey Posted by: Alamet | Mar 5 2008 1:13 utc | 21 Chalmers Johnson in Asia Times
Posted by: Alamet | Mar 5 2008 1:18 utc | 22 So while combing through old files to night I ran across the following, which is something we should all keep on the periphery of our minds. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 5 2008 6:32 utc | 23 nyt article on the missile attacks in the somali town of dobley
so when the fbi wants an individual “for questioning” that requires the u.s. military to send two or more missiles which “destroyed two houses, killing three women and three children and wounding another 20 people”? wtf? and what about the earlier rpts that the target was hassan turki, who was in dobley “to mediate a dispute between his militias and government troops, which have been fighting for control of the area”?
yet the article then goes on to rpt that
“at least two tomahawk crusie missiles” “believed to have hit their targets” results in “a partly destroyed house”?
now wait, the district commissioner, a public official, states that six were killed yet reuters feels it necessary to also quote “a local resident” who puts the casualties as four wounded? wtf is up w/ that? Posted by: b real | Mar 5 2008 6:35 utc | 24 re #24, that quote — “destroyed two houses, killing three women and three children and wounding another 20 people” — came from a cnn article i forgot to link to Posted by: b real | Mar 5 2008 6:39 utc | 25 @b real – @15 –
Chad: A Moat Around the Capital
islam online: US Strikes Somali Resistance Meeting
Posted by: b real | Mar 5 2008 7:10 utc | 28 For b real et al…
Awww. Look at the photo of the nice old man who didn’t want to hurt anyone. Granpa!
Lies. Lies, Mr. Devlin. Lies, Mr. Prados.
Oh, yeah. W Bush was just out lying up a storm in Africa. Timing.
More REAL info on CIA from John Stockwell- here Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 5 2008 7:43 utc | 29 voa: Somali Capital Reportedly on Brink of Starvation
global politician: Somalia’s Leadership: Substance or Rhetoric?
Posted by: b real | Mar 5 2008 7:54 utc | 30 Kids, we have had some very interesting visitors to MOA of late…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 5 2008 8:51 utc | 31 uncle –
soldiers loyal to cia asset mobutu made the arrest; he then turned lumumba over to tshombe (supported by the cia, the belgians, the rockefellers (later?), etc) who arranged for belgians to finish him off. or that’s how i understand it. Posted by: b real | Mar 5 2008 8:56 utc | 32 Jenkins in The Guardian:
The Idenpendent has a good roundup on Columbia: The Big Question: Why has Colombia invaded Ecuador, and why is Venezuela joining the fight? In case anyone feared that Israeli leaders were weakening, or more to the point becoming reasonable: Posted by: jj | Mar 5 2008 10:16 utc | 35 OPEC to Shrub: drop dead. Posted by: ran | Mar 5 2008 18:42 utc | 36 Security breaches and criminal activity in the Department of Homeland Security? My shocked face. Let me show you it. Posted by: Monolycus | Mar 5 2008 19:09 utc | 37 Nobody posted the Vanity Fair article, or I’m not keeping up? Posted by: Tangerine | Mar 5 2008 21:45 utc | 38 Uh-oh – Bush May Fire CentCom Chief Adm. Fallon, Replace With Commander More ‘Pliable’ To War With Iran
so where are all the international wire service stories on the latest re the u.s. missile strikes/bombing of a somali target on monday? have to go to nairobi’s daily nation to read that
a reporter asked gates in a DoD media roundtable today “Secretary Gates, the strike on Somalia two days ago — did the missiles that were fired — did they strike their target? And was the target Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan? Do you have a report back from the field?” to which he curtly responded “you know we don’t talk about military operations.”
these illegal & absurd aggressions against africans, coming on the heels of bush’s PR leapfrogging across the continent late last month, could (and should) really create a public relations disaster for the u.s. and its AFRICOM ambitions. Posted by: b real | Mar 6 2008 5:35 utc | 41 – Elite ‘Democratic’ Planning at the Council on Foreign Relations (Part 1 of 2)
Posted by: b real | Mar 6 2008 7:50 utc | 42 National Dragnet Is a Click Away
Fun in the markets: Carlyle Fund Gets Default Notice After Margin Calls
all these hedgie funds will die … At or near a military recruiting office. The article goes out of its way to point out that the office has been the site of antiwar protests. The bomb was too small to cause much havoc, too bomblike to be ignored. Just enough to plant the antiwar activist=mad bomber equation in the minds of the Typical American Lemmings. What’s next? Paying young hoodlums to go around calling soldiers in uniform “baby killers?”
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 6 2008 16:06 utc | 45 Another fleeting historic moment… Oil futures passed $ 105 today before *retreating* to $ 104.90 as I write. Posted by: Alamet | Mar 6 2008 16:55 utc | 46 Arrested Arms Dealer’s Planes Flew U.S. Missions in Iraq Posted by: Alamet | Mar 6 2008 17:41 utc | 47 On my Carlyle Fund post in 44. Irony alert… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 6 2008 19:54 utc | 50 Iraq – Why So Many Female Suicide Bombers? Posted by: Alamet | Mar 7 2008 1:06 utc | 51 U.S. officially joins the Third World Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 7 2008 2:38 utc | 52 Did anyone expected less …
The Pentagon acknowledged that it did know of the scheme. For the U.S. government in total this was a budget loss. For the Pentagon budget it was a relief. This tells something about the Pentagon’s real interest. re Alamet’s #47 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 7 2008 11:26 utc | 55 Dems! Need material for your campaign?
Hey Barack! Eugene Robinson says you need a new “keystone address”. Get busy with the above! Posted by: Hamburger | Mar 7 2008 14:36 utc | 57 b @ #54 Posted by: crone | Mar 7 2008 21:24 utc | 58 Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 8 2008 1:07 utc | 59 garowe online: Somalia: ‘Muslims are being massacred’: Dobley mayor
Posted by: b real | Mar 8 2008 7:33 utc | 60 @ Uncle $cam #31 – What’s curious to me is that whenever I check out “Who’s On?” someone is reading the “Blowverbod” thread from two years ago which only had a few comments. Posted by: beq | Mar 8 2008 15:10 utc | 61 since i’m in attention-junkie mode, the typepad had loosen it’s grip on me and I wanna reach the regulars for a round of discussion. i’ll repost this stuff here: Posted by: Colombianonymous | Mar 8 2008 22:56 utc | 63 Hang on to your mouse and back up your files. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 9 2008 0:24 utc | 64 sorry beq, just saw your post, yeah, see the first entry in my #31 i.e., the Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 9 2008 0:37 utc | 65 Are we cyberfoes? Posted by: beq | Mar 9 2008 1:04 utc | 66 there have been a lot of mil hits on the understanding africom series recently, as well. remember, plenty of mil personnel have net access & are just as interested in finding out what’s really going on as we are & when you start hearing more about plans centered around africa it’s only normal to want to seek out more POVs. iow, don’t assume that all these visits from mil institutions are of nefarious – surf & destroy – designs. Posted by: b real | Mar 9 2008 3:46 utc | 67 PM Erdoğan: I will quit politics if US pressure confirmed
Posted by: b real | Mar 9 2008 5:08 utc | 68 monolycus et al…
Posted by: b real | Mar 9 2008 5:47 utc | 69 greg grandin: Fidel Castro, the First Superdelegate
Posted by: b real | Mar 9 2008 6:16 utc | 70 yeah, b real @67 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 9 2008 7:07 utc | 71 @b real (#69) Posted by: Monolycus | Mar 9 2008 9:20 utc | 72 For R’giap, et al.. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 9 2008 11:43 utc | 73 “Drunk posting is NOT cool.” Posted by: beq | Mar 9 2008 12:20 utc | 74 monolycus Posted by: r’giap | Mar 9 2008 16:40 utc | 76 @R’Giap: i do not know if the allussions refer to me… Posted by: Monolycus | Mar 10 2008 3:56 utc | 77 r’giap, your clarity is impeccable and theres no doubt it will always be. Posted by: jony_b_cool | Mar 10 2008 5:10 utc | 78 Feith: It was Powell’s fault. He didn’t stop us.: Pentagon insider attacks war plan
Yeah, blame the ‘nigger’, a time tested travesty. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 10 2008 5:34 utc | 79 In case anyone was under the happy illusion that the boyking Admin. was coterminus w/the Age of Resource Wars, and that pressure on the EU would decline w/its passing dream on. The raison d’etre of NATO was always building an alliance against the Soviet Union. After Larry Summers et al gutted the rotting carcas, the EU became increasingly impervious to being mobilized in support of xAm. Resource War Adventures. Finally, a way has been found around this dilemma. Climate change may spark conflict with Russia, EU told Posted by: jj | Mar 10 2008 9:28 utc | 80 I had missed the news of Victor Bout’s arrest in Thailand. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Mar 11 2008 6:41 utc | 81 |
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